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What does your dataplan cover?

Does it cover voip? P2P, teethering etc...
And most of all? How does your provider regulate this? Is it simply blocked? Possible but charged extra? Just possible and no questions asked?

not 100% sure but i know my plan has unlimated internet and txt and such..but when it comes to the internet i think there is a bandwith cap monthly so it really isnt unlimited...still not 100% sure...

tulamidan said:
Does it cover voip? P2P, teethering etc...
And most of all? How does your provider regulate this? Is it simply blocked? Possible but charged extra? Just possible and no questions asked?
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Are you looking to switch providers for a better plan or something?

T-Mo caps speed after 10gb bandwidth used, but doesn't cap general internet usage. My plan provides 400 texts, others have unlimited, but now the internet and messaging plans are separate (grr for greediness!).
Not sure on their official stance on tethering (I'd assume a 'no' on the allowed and possible questions), but a rooted phone would probably be able to tether anyways, as long as it doesn't breach the 10 gig roof. If you do that too often, I'm sure they'd probably catch you.

I wouldn't waste money on a data plan -- free wifi is available everywhere.

The greatest benefit of having a data plan. It always works, you don't have to use any workarounds and then do another workaround when that loophole closes. I didn't have a data plan on my last WM plan and I spent more time trying to find wifi or waiting to get somewhere with wifi than it was worth. Granted the data plan is slightly pricey it is worth it. Many widgets/apps are so internet connected it makes for a seamless setup.

My data plan covers nuclear apocolypse, 2012, chuck norris' roundhouse kick, and aids. I doubt they can tell your tethering unless you do some mega down/uploading.

lbcoder said:
I wouldn't waste money on a data plan -- free wifi is available everywhere.
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For someone who lives in a massive urban area, that's fine.
For others, in the suburbs or further out, wifi is more scarce and sometimes useless (aka, requires payment), and the dataplan gives you the reliability.

lbcoder said:
free wifi is available everywhere.
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Hyperbole?

How much 3G/GSM Traffic do you generate

I don't own an Andorid phone yet. And from what I was reading thus far, it seems that android and its apps generate quite a lot more data-traffic than a 'plain ol' WinMo device used for some e-mail and calendar sync.
Now since in Switzerland unlimited GSM data contracts are way too expensive, I am looking for a 100-250megs/month plan but am not sure at all if this will be sufficient for daily use.
What is your guess, except Webbrowsing, how much traffic do you generate a month?

my phone is my laptop replacement, and my business is online, everything is online, i'll die without the internet

i tether to my laptop and use it to browse the web in the evenings 4-5 hours per, 6-7 days per week
i've been monitoring my data usage on my account at Tmobile's web and it hit low 6 GBs the two months i used it to view quite a bit on youtube
months that i didn't, 2.8 to 3.5 GB a month
that's also sending/reading emails from my laptop
that was with a MyTouch 3G - this Vibrant's download speeds are faster so i expect those numbers will go up in the coming months

jeeez, i guess i'm screwed with my 100-250megs...

if you're not talking about browsing etc, just emails/texting etc that about might be just fine
remember, i said i use it for browsing 6-7 times a week, 4-5 hours per night
i'm on a Tmo unlimited data plan (that apparently actually has either a 5GB or 10GB ceiling - but that's surprising about switzerland - it's been a couple years since i've been there but it used to surpise me how cheap communications was there
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larryccf said:
i'm on a Tmo unlimited data plan (that apparently actually has either a 5GB or 10GB ceiling - but that's surprising about switzerland - it's been a couple years since i've been there but it used to surpise me how cheap communications was there
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seems like switzerland didn't keep up with the rest of the world in terms of communication fees. a 250megs plan costs about 50$ - with no telephony or texting discounts at all. an unlimited plan is about 160$ - and you actually get capped on your speed after reaching 2gb...
well well well

I usually don't even bother changing to WiFi when I'm at home, so almost all the data traffic goes over the mobile network, and I usually end up in the 500MB -> 1GB range.
If you just make sure to install and update apps, and do large data transfers while you have a WiFi network available, 250MB should be more than enough.
My GF has a 500MB plan and she has never even been close to going over the limit.

karmakuma said:
seems like switzerland didn't keep up with the rest of the world in terms of communication fees. a 250megs plan costs about 50$ - with no telephony or texting discounts at all. an unlimited plan is about 160$ - and you actually get capped on your speed after reaching 2gb...
well well well
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Korea is about to switch to a plan with unlimited data on about $40 USD plan that includes free incoming calls/text along with free minutes and texts for outgoing communicatoin.
igniztion said:
I usually don't even bother changing to WiFi when I'm at home, so almost all the data traffic goes over the mobile network, and I usually end up in the 500MB -> 1GB range.
If you just make sure to install and update apps, and do large data transfers while you have a WiFi network available, 250MB should be more than enough.
My GF has a 500MB plan and she has never even been close to going over the limit.
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I'd probably switch for the enhanced speed and better battery, though I've lived without wifi on 2G speeds. When I had the original iPhone which was edge, I rarely switched over to WiFi because I knew my battery life went down when using wi-fi but didn't actually know that my battery life went down even more when surfing on 2G.

Here in Finland Saunalahti offers a data package with (supposedly) unlimited speeds and quota. I haven't used my galaxy for a month but I think I should end up using 3-5gigs of data.
Edit: forgot to bragg about the price, which is 14eur/month
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rkantos said:
Here in Finland Saunalahti offers a data package with (supposedly) unlimited speeds and quota. I haven't used my galaxy for a month but I think I should end up using 3-5gigs of data.
Edit: forgot to bragg about the price, which is 14eur/month
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Does that mean it's faster than super warp speed?

rkantos said:
Here in Finland Saunalahti offers a data package with (supposedly) unlimited speeds and quota. I haven't used my galaxy for a month but I think I should end up using 3-5gigs of data.
Edit: forgot to bragg about the price, which is 14eur/month
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yaya keep on braggin
hope one day we will end up with fees like that as well... ...but thats a long way to go i gues

250 MByte for sure will be enough if you just send/check mails (including attachements) and surf the web for news. You can download apps and watch youtube at home or in a restaurant where there is wifi.
I have a plan for 250 MByte myself and it works out pretty well.

vengador said:
250 MByte for sure will be enough if you just send/check mails (including attachements) and surf the web for news. You can download apps and watch youtube at home or in a restaurant where there is wifi.
I have a plan for 250 MByte myself and it works out pretty well.
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that sounds promising... in that case i think i will not have to worry. though when i look at the poll results, it seems that there are quite som data-junkies out there
but you know, i'm no different myself - but over cable instead

don't worry you should be fine.
I just happen to be internet adicted
got 3 different broadband ISP at home on a cisco balancer for redundancy and load balancing.
same reason why in need 2 cell phones HSPDA capable that works just as fast as my computer home computer for when i'm on the move.

5 gig limit and tethering, i work for tmobile

ok, so i work for tmobile and i spoke to the tmobile vice president yesterday when he came in for a visit, and yes its true, the 5 gig limit to data service will be applied, once you go over 5 gig you will be throttled down to edge connection until your following month and also tethering will now be available as a feature which will cost 15 dollars a month, this will all go official real soon, so everyone who has been tethering on the side, sorry

What do you mean by that last line?

Bbe1367 said:
also tethering will now be available as a feature which will cost 15 dollars a month, this will all go official real soon, so everyone who has been tethering on the side, sorry
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This is worse news for me by far. I tether only now-and-then, but I do use it, and I'd hate to have to pay extra for the few times I do...even though, yes, other carriers currently charge.

This sucks! Well they are a business so I understand them charging for tethering but changing the cap to 5gb is pointless since tethering requires 15 bucks a month extra...
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I wonder if this applies to nexus one owners. I have had tethering for months on my nexus one have never neared the data cap. Why would I start paying monthly for a feature that I can get for free on my nexus one or for a 1 time fee from the app market for my G2?

Pretty sure that when I signed up for service, I signed up for unlimited data and when I bought my phone, it advertised HSPA+ speeds. So if my phone can only do HSPA+ speeds for a while and T-Mobile wants to try to act like the internet is a depleteable resource. I will be returning my phone and cancelling all of my family's lines and finding a new carrier.

Wraith272 said:
and T-Mobile wants to try to act like the internet is a depleteable resource.
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Air interface bandwidth is [a limited resource].

Wraith272 said:
Pretty sure that when I signed up for service, I signed up for unlimited data and when I bought my phone, it advertised HSPA+ speeds. So if my phone can only do HSPA+ speeds for a while and T-Mobile wants to try to act like the internet is a depleteable resource. I will be returning my phone and cancelling all of my family's lines and finding a new carrier.
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Any of those carriers you switch to will have an even more expensive tethering fee. Best thing to do at this point is to root. I use my nexus when I want to wifi tether.
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Wraith272 said:
Pretty sure that when I signed up for service, I signed up for unlimited data and when I bought my phone, it advertised HSPA+ speeds. So if my phone can only do HSPA+ speeds for a while and T-Mobile wants to try to act like the internet is a depleteable resource. I will be returning my phone and cancelling all of my family's lines and finding a new carrier.
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It sounds good and all but be sure to compare. Tmobile has a "fair" usage clause. They base what is fair usage on what the average data usage across the network is or something very similar to that. They never charge more for going over the cap, they just slow you down.

I'm guessing that they will make the tethering official and roll out the OTA at the same time.
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The majority of smartphone users likely don't crest 5GB usage. Those who do continue to have unlimited access at a slower speed. If this is unacceptable to them, they are free to terminate their accounts. As a moderate dataplan user, I'm perfectly fine with that, since in an unlimited scheme, moderate users are basically subsidizing the few outlier heavy users.

I was fine with the 5gb reduction too but charging another 15/month on the "unlimited data" plan to tether? 45/month seems excessive. Need some new perspective.

the cap is for web connect data plans, not for the unlimited plans connected to cell phones

jashsu said:
The majority of smartphone users likely don't crest 5GB usage. Those who do continue to have unlimited access at a slower speed. If this is unacceptable to them, they are free to terminate their accounts. As a moderate dataplan user, I'm perfectly fine with that, since in an unlimited scheme, moderate users are basically subsidizing the few outlier heavy users.
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You do realize that once there are no more heavy outliers, you become the heavy outlier. When T-Mobile lowers the cap again to below your data usage, I guarantee you'll be the first to complain.

What? Tethering won't be free? Sad face...
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How are they gonna block stuff like PDAnet from being used? heck Id rather pay for their full version than to pay a monthly fee for 2 years..
Iphone tethering is only 10$.. I dont beleive it til i see it. Im thinking it will be free but just capped at 5gb before they throttle to stop people from abusing it

Bbe1367 said:
ok, so i work for tmobile and i spoke to the tmobile vice president yesterday when he came in for a visit, and yes its true, the 5 gig limit to data service will be applied, once you go over 5 gig you will be throttled down to edge connection until your following month and also tethering will now be available as a feature which will cost 15 dollars a month, this will all go official real soon, so everyone who has been tethering on the side, sorry
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are you saying the 5GB cap will apply to customers on contract (and grandfathered customers free of contract) as well as prepaid customers? - the way that news release is worded, it appears to only apply or refer to prepaid customers.
any clairification appreciated

krayshunist said:
You do realize that once there are no more heavy outliers, you become the heavy outlier. When T-Mobile lowers the cap again to below your data usage, I guarantee you'll be the first to complain.
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There will always be heavy outliers in a chart of users (whether in 1990, 2010 or 2100). The important question is whether the bar is above or below the average. Realistically speaking the bulk of those exceeding 5GB are probably tethering (I don't actually agree that tethering should be separate from the phone access, but that's a different discussion), so with the $15 tethering fee it might move the curve back even further under 5GB.

Well, I just checked my month use on t-mobile's website and looks like i only used 1.7 GB for the whole month. Not bad since most of my heavy downloading is done through my residential internet connection anyways. I don't think that I'll ever reach 5GB..
I'm not worried.

Can they just knock us off from a 10gig soft cap to a 5gig? Isn't there a grandfather clause kinda thing?
Besides, how would they know if i tether using pdanet. My data usage doesn't reflect how its being used.

T-Mobile is becoming a Horrible Service

I'm not sure if anyone else has experienced this "T-Mobile cap your bandwidth speed after 500mb on Unlimited Plan" but I feel their going to loose a few customers for this. How do other tmobile customers feel about this????
This defeat having an unlimited plan!!! I used 1.8gb of data over a three week period and T-Mobile cut my internet speed to lower than 200kb. This is Bullsh*t!!!
No i'm not making the numbers up, that's what the Tmo rep told me!!!!

klee2000 said:
I'm not sure if anyone else has experienced this "T-Mobile cap your bandwidth speed after 500mb on Unlimited Plan" but I feel their going to loose a few customers for this. How do other tmobile customers feel about this????
This defeat having an unlimited plan!!! I used 1.8gb of data over a three week period and T-Mobile cut my internet speed to lower than 200kb. This is Bullsh*t!!!
No i'm not making the numbers up, that's what the Tmo rep told me!!!!
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It's not 500MB. It's 5GB. Big difference. Tmobile rep told you wrong and you shouldn't have been capped at 1.8GB. If they really capped it at 500MB it would make a smartphone worthless.

I found it a little ludicrous to but apparently they did cap it because I have decent signal and my internet it slow as hell. Oh yea they also sent me a message saying that i used to much data!!!!

Yeah it's 5GB, not MB...HUGE difference. Unless you are using the T-Zones hack...THEN it is indeed 500MB, and to which I say suck it up.

Then take your service to att where they will be very happy to charge you for using more than 2gb of data, but don't worry... It will be full speed!

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ME: I received a text message from customer care sating that :"Due to the amount of data you have used this billing cycle, your data speed will be slowed for the remainder of the cycle" I havent found anywhere in my contract that says i have a limit on the amount of data i can transfer before i hit some kind of penalty. I have an unlimited data useage plan...
~Marrianne W: You do have unlimited data on your account. What has happened it that due to the data you have used already during this month. When you try to access more data, it is just going to be slower, then it was at the beginning of the month.
~Marrianne W: Once your new bill cycle start, which is on the 20th of the month. It will be faster to download again.
ME: right, I'm not seeing anywhere in my contract that says my data speed will be slowed if i use over a certain amount of data
~Marrianne W: I do regret that you were not informed of this before.
ME: I am a databse developer and I am on the move all the time. part of the reason i got the phone and plan i did was so that i would be able to upload and download databases as needed while i am out of th eoffice
ME: what is this data useage limit that i am required to stay under to keep my connection speed?
ME: and where can i find this in my contract?
~Marrianne W: Once you reach 5GB then the speed slows down.
~Marrianne W: This is for everyone that has the data on their account.
ME: and there is no separate plan to remove this cap?
~Marrianne W: I do regret that there is now other data plan that is available to remove the cap.
~Marrianne W: All the unlimited data plan have a cap on them..
ME: so in actuality, you can download/upload as much as you want, as long as you dont break 5GB, then you are slowed to <60Kbps and you can barely browse the web...?
~Marrianne W: That is what happens. There are so many people using this. That we need to slow the downloads, for customer the customer that use it a lot.
~Marrianne W: I do apologize for any inconvience this may cause you.
ME: it would make far more sense to a) tell the customers this, and b) offer a separate plan for X $'s more to remove the cap. All that is happening now is that customers like myself that HAVE to use a mobile data connection now have to turn to an alternative provider.
Totally awesome I tell ya.

Dude, we have all known about this for at least a month, it's been talked to death. If you don't like it, then switch to another carrier, which all have caps at 2GB mind you, and they all also have MUCH more expensive unlimited plans.

I don't mind the 5gb cap. but I do mind the poor reception I been getting from T-mobile in Los Angeles.

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I'm not sure if anyone else has experienced this "T-Mobile cap your bandwidth speed after 500mb on Unlimited Plan" but I feel their going to loose a few customers for this. How do other tmobile customers feel about this????
This defeat having an unlimited plan!!! I used 1.8gb of data over a three week period and T-Mobile cut my internet speed to lower than 200kb. This is Bullsh*t!!!
No i'm not making the numbers up, that's what the Tmo rep told me!!!!
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Are you using your phone as a wireless router for internet service?

Ashasaur- i'm not using T-zones I'm on the unlimited plan, well the supposed to be unlimited bull plan.
djdanska- the point is they should inform me that the plan is limited before signing a 2 year contract for $30 dollars that they claim is unlimited. I would of preferred not paying anything at all than paying $30 a month for 2gb!!!! After 2gb the internet is useless if your paying for it!!
mechanix619- Sometimes but that is not the point I had less than 2gb for the month!!!
These phone providers are straight pimping their consumers. Plain and simple if they claim that the heavy users are bogging down their system well give us the rest of our damn money back, don't take our money if you can't commit.
I don't know about you all but 2gb of data is nothing for what our smartphones were meant for. The services alone on most of the applications we use stay running constantly. I might as well move to simple mobile where I get everything in one for $60 compared to $30 dollars extra for 2gb of data. Of course i'm expecting simple mobile internet to be slower but guess what I'm not paying for it.

Seriously, YOU STILL HAVE UNLIMITED DATA. Why don't you people understand this? T-Mobile has done NOTHING WRONG IN LIMITING YOUR SPEED. IF THEY CUT YOU OFF COMPLETELY BECAUSE YOU GO OVER THE CAP THEN YES THEY ARE IN THE WRONG. Unlimited data DOES NOT mean you will always recieve 3G speeds, it simply means that you have unlimited access to mobile internet service.

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Seriously, YOU STILL HAVE UNLIMITED DATA. Why don't you people understand this? T-Mobile has done NOTHING WRONG IN LIMITING YOUR SPEED. IF THEY CUT YOU OFF COMPLETELY BECAUSE YOU GO OVER THE CAP THEN YES THEY ARE IN THE WRONG. Unlimited data DOES NOT mean you will always recieve 3G speeds, it simply means that you have unlimited access to mobile internet service.
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Ok first of all they did do something wrong they cap my internet before 2gb. Secondly do you think it's worth paying $30 dollars for 2gb of data? Yes I do understand that the internet is not off but only the speed has been cut. But have you tried doing anything at 60kb?
Up to my darn Pandora software don't even run good on it, damn thing stop every second. I'm just saying wouldn't limited sound much better then unlimited?? The way they use unlimited is a lie because the internet is limited. Lets say even if you wanted to, do you know how long it will take to go over another 3gb going at 60kb? FOREVER!!!!

aryden said:
.....ME: it would make far more sense to a) tell the customers this....
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Step 1: sign contract
Step 2: Use services
Step 3: get mad
Step 4: *****
Step 5: Read contract's fine print
Step 6: Feel sheepish
The data cap has been in your contract since the day you signed it.

I quote T-Mobiles Terms of Use:
We(T-Mobile) reserve the right to at any time limit a persons access to mobile internet services(TDMA, GPRS, EDGE, 3G, 4G) in accordance with their contract. These limits may include(s); Lower bandwith, lower overall data speeds, limited access at peak hours of service etc.
Seriously, go and read your contract and the TOS. It's all in there.

JCopernicus- can you please show me where in the contract I will be capped for going over 2gb please!!!! Have you notice I have not complained about 5gb? Another thing this is something new because I've had no issue in the past!!! So what ur saying is incorrect!!!

By the way how much is T-Mobile paying you???? Jus a joke lol!lol! Their still a thief 60kb are you for real!!!!! MetroPCS does better than this!!!!

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JCopernicus- can you please show me where in the contract I will be capped for going over 2gb please!!!! Have you notice I have not complained about 5gb? Another thing this is something new because I've had no issue in the past!!! So what ur saying is incorrect!!!
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It's in the contract, as posted above.
You haven't had an issue in the past because t-mo has always been crazy linient in regards to data services.
I can only assume their towers are getting gangraped between the HD7 and the 4G/G2 recently.

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Ok first of all they did do something wrong they cap my internet before 2gb. Secondly do you think it's worth paying $30 dollars for 2gb of data? Yes I do understand that the internet is not off but only the speed has been cut. But have you tried doing anything at 60kb?
Up to my darn Pandora software don't even run good on it, damn thing stop every second. I'm just saying wouldn't limited sound much better then unlimited?? The way they use unlimited is a lie because the internet is limited. Lets say even if you wanted to, do you know how long it will take to go over another 3gb going at 60kb? FOREVER!!!!
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If they cut you off at less than 2GB I would call Customer service and find out why when they have it published that you get throttled at 5GB. Escalate that **** up the chain of command if you have to. they shouldn't be capping you at 2GB. I would be pissed too.

I was sold unlimited access to the internet. That is how t-mobile explained it to me. Them slowing down my speed doesn't matter. I still have unlimited access to the internet. I have never heard t-mobile EVER mention having unlimited speed, and i've been with them since the voicestream days. They never made any guarantee of speed for your entire bill cycle. So, im going to still have to disagree on it being limited.
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Ashasaur- i'm not using T-zones I'm on the unlimited plan, well the supposed to be unlimited bull plan.
djdanska- the point is they should inform me that the plan is limited before signing a 2 year contract for $30 dollars that they claim is unlimited. I would of preferred not paying anything at all than paying $30 a month for 2gb!!!! After 2gb the internet is useless if your paying for it!!
mechanix619- Sometimes but that is not the point I had less than 2gb for the month!!!
These phone providers are straight pimping their consumers. Plain and simple if they claim that the heavy users are bogging down their system well give us the rest of our damn money back, don't take our money if you can't commit.
I don't know about you all but 2gb of data is nothing for what our smartphones were meant for. The services alone on most of the applications we use stay running constantly. I might as well move to simple mobile where I get everything in one for $60 compared to $30 dollars extra for 2gb of data. Of course i'm expecting simple mobile internet to be slower but guess what I'm not paying for it.
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While i don't like, but understand the speed limiting, i do think it may lead to more. If they can slow down my speed to whatever they limit it to, how hard would it be for them to have tiers, like how comcast does? Do you want 3 meg internet? 8 meg internet? 21 meg internet? Is that where this throttling thing may end up like? Different caps for different tiers? If i was talking about att, i would guarantee they would do it in a heartbeat, but would tmobile do something like that?
edit: I too was throttled today on my tmo dell mini netbook. Quick change of the apn and im back to full speed again! epc.tmobile.com can be throttled but apparently the old voicestream apn of internet2.voicestream.com doesn't yet. So, if your throttled, change your apn to internet2.voicestream.com and see if its better for you. If you do that on a phone and keep it that way, you will most likely need to mess with the mms settings because they are different with the internet2 apn. I could never get them to send with that apn.

[Q] Atrix on orange - mobile internet limit

Im with o2 at the moment. With unlimited internet.
I want this phone and being in the uk i have to move to orange is my undertanding. Orange do not offer unlimited internet. They give 500mb.
I know no one will be able to give me a definate answer but is this enough. Out and about i dont do to much browsing. A bit of the old youtube and maybe the occasional app download.
How do other people find this limit?

There are different data plans on Orange, but it seems none with unlimited data, but some plans do involve 750MB (starting from Panther 30 plan) or 1GB (starting from Panther 45 plan).
rtatts said:
Im with o2 at the moment. With unlimited internet.
I want this phone and being in the uk i have to move to orange is my undertanding. Orange do not offer unlimited internet. They give 500mb.
I know no one will be able to give me a definate answer but is this enough. Out and about i dont do to much browsing. A bit of the old youtube and maybe the occasional app download.
How do other people find this limit?
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I would say I am an average user, and my total usage this month I estimate at 2.5GB data/2.5GB WiFi. I could give you accurate numbers, but I wipe my phone so often to try the wonderful things our devs do for us that my counters reset all the time.
My usage on WiFi is primarily downloading and updating applications after a clean wipe. I don't surf a whole lot, but was surprised when I saw how much usage can jump while surfing.
All in all 500MB per month is in my mind for "emergency" use only, as you could very easily hit that limit with what might be considered minimal usage. If I were you I would go with the 1Gb plan at a minimum if it is available.

I use my phone for email, twitter and light Internet when out and about, occasionally teathering to my laptop, and I'm told by orange I've not gone over about 400mb in the last year. If you stream a lot of video or music then I'd say you'd need more than 500. Some plans also come with BT Openzone so might be worth getting that to use on hotspots.
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T39andcounting said:
I use my phone for email, twitter and light Internet when out and about, occasionally teathering to my laptop, and I'm told by orange I've not gone over about 400mb in the last year. If you stream a lot of video or music then I'd say you'd need more than 500. Some plans also come with BT Openzone so might be worth getting that to use on hotspots.
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just curious... how do you find the download speed on orange? iv not canx my orange contract yet but have gone to o2... but the signals sooo poor versus orange im looking to upgrade on orange and theres only 2 phones i like... the sgs2 which i have... but very poor battery and drops signal when you pick up the phone or the atrix

StickyGeko said:
just curious... how do you find the download speed on orange? iv not canx my orange contract yet but have gone to o2... but the signals sooo poor versus orange im looking to upgrade on orange and theres only 2 phones i like... the sgs2 which i have... but very poor battery and drops signal when you pick up the phone or the atrix
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Download speed seems fine. Occasionally data drops for no reason, but soon seems to come back. No better or worse than any other network from what I can see, just depends on the reception in your area. Also, I've had really good experiences with Orange phone insurance in the past. Seems cheaper than other networks and is a next day replacement phone service (even after I dropped mine in the sea!).

rtatts said:
Im with o2 at the moment. With unlimited internet.
I want this phone and being in the uk i have to move to orange is my undertanding. Orange do not offer unlimited internet. They give 500mb.
I know no one will be able to give me a definate answer but is this enough. Out and about i dont do to much browsing. A bit of the old youtube and maybe the occasional app download.
How do other people find this limit?
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I switched from an unlimited internet tariff on O2 (N1) to the Panther 35 (750 mb) last week. I'd been tracking my monthly usage as averaging about 400mb per month for the last 4 / 5 months in expectation of shifting tariffs &/or network this year..

500mb is enough for browsing and some social network but i would avoid streaming anything including youtube for the first month or so to see how much you use. download a app call 3G watchdog, it will monitor your data usage.