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[Q] o2 are about to limit the data

Does anyone know if its true that they are going to limit us to 500mb ?

Yes, that's why I have changed O2 provider to Three.

this is for new contracts only, if you are on unlimited then it is for the time of your contract

there has always been a 'fair usage' policy of 500 or 750mb (dependant on your contract) per month, so to be honest, not a lot has changed other than the fact it isn't just in the small print now.

I was sceptical that 1GB was going to be enough for my purposes
when I signed up to Virgin mobile,but after a few months use
I never get anywhere near using that much,for instance
this month I have only used 183MB and that is including
an evenings use as WiFi routing to my laptop when I lost my
Virgin media connection.
I have to admit that most of the time I am able to find a WiFi signal
to connect the HD2 hence the low usage.

the only ones that are going to get anywhere near 500meg a month are ones that use phone as modems when tethering (which is against the o2 t&c) or as a wifi router or who stream from youtube daily
the most i used in a month was about 300meg and that was accidentally streaming from tvcatchup when i thought it was on wifi

best way to carry on geting unlimited data is to not upgrade or change the tariff, just let it carry on running after the 18/24month. then o2 cant change anything as u havent signed up to it your original t&c still apply.

sausagedog said:
best way to carry on geting unlimited data is to not upgrade or change the tariff, just let it carry on running after the 18/24month. then o2 cant change anything as u havent signed up to it your original t&c still apply.
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Best to check with them as to your normal actual usage, if it's normally always over the new imposed limit, then sure it makes sense to never change your contract, but for most people the new limits aren't an issue.
Personally I think it's mostly to beat ASA/Ofcom forcing them to drop the "unlimited" tag line as it never was unlimited.
Expect to see home broadband providers following suit in the future.
It's much better from a business point of view to show that you don't need regulation by doing what the regulators want before they ask you to.

What??? Only 500mb for data? Is that a daily limit?
I wouldn't be able to handle that. I got throttled by tmous last month for hitting my 5gb soft cap. And no, I didn't do any tethering last month.
I'm sure I could use wifi when available, but most wifi's are slower than my hspa+ data. And why should I use wifi? I'm paying for the data. I'll probably push it to the max every month.

nrfitchett4 said:
What??? Only 500mb for data? Is that a daily limit?
I wouldn't be able to handle that. I got throttled by tmous last month for hitting my 5gb soft cap. And no, I didn't do any tethering last month.
I'm sure I could use wifi when available, but most wifi's are slower than my hspa+ data. And why should I use wifi? I'm paying for the data. I'll probably push it to the max every month.
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Only 3% of O2's users go over 500MB a month.

xaccers said:
Only 3% of O2's users go over 500MB a month.
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Most of them use Apple stuff.
I hear that Virgin are looking to increase the limit (at a price I suspose) and drop it down to 500mg to those who are happy with it. Virgin have a hard cap - and charge you if you go over and its not cheap

Tmobile to charge for Tethering?

Over at AndroidCentral they said you can no longer tether for free if u do it will cause u 14.99 a month? Is this legit? PDA Net is now rendered useless? Anyone shed some light on this?
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Although we already knew that a new plan for customers that want to Tether was coming soon and then yesteday, confirmed for November 3rd, the folks over at BGR have recieved details on the new tethering plan. T-Mobile will officially offer the $14.99 /MonthTethering and WiFi-Sharing Add-On beginning November 3rd. The plan will allow subscribers to use their smartphones as a tethered modem or Wi-Fi hotspot. To qualify for the $14.99 Tethering add-on, you will need to have a 3G/HSPA+ capable handset in addition to an unlimited web plan of $19.95 or higher. The tethering plan also counts towards your 5GB data cap. So that means once you’ve used 5GB of data, your speeds will be throttled. The plan will be available for Postpaid and Flex Pay Customers.
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Source: http://www.buzzbox.com/preview/t-mobile-launching-14-99-tethering-plan-november-3rd/?id=11345568
To the OP, it's still unlimited data. You'll get dropped to Edge when you pass your 5gig softcap on a data plan. If you pay extra for tethering you'll be added an additional 5gigs. Thus bringing the softcap to 10gigs.
What I'm wondering is what's going to happen to everyone that was grandfathered in with the 10gig data softcap. Do they stay with 10gig data plans or are they knocked down to 5gig softcaps. Yes, I understand it still unlimited but I'm not interested on tethering with an Edge connection.

Excuse my language but Wtf type of sh*t is that? First they don't want you to tether, then they are gonna let u tether for another 5gb and that's it???? They can suck a fat one. Btw I've already been throttled and it aint that bad so I'm pretty sure this new idea of theirs is gonna blow back in their face. If only verizon has the g2 or a htc phone with physical keyboard
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Does this mean we will be getting some kind of OTA to enable tethering?
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bigstunta101 said:
If only verizon has the g2 or a htc phone with physical keyboard
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Well, they will have their version of the G2, but then what? You'll leave T-Mobile for the Red Devil? They charge for tethering too you know?
Geez, what's the big fuss about them charging for tethering. You'll still be able to tether your connection without paying for the plan, granted it will STILL be against the terms and conditions but there's nothing stopping you from doing so.
My brother tethers his Verizon BlackBerry and he doesn't have any sort of tethering plan. I'm on T-Mobile and I tethered my BBs (when I had them) and my G1 without any issues, now I didn't go out there and stream and download this and that and make it obvious that I was using a lot of data.
If you recall T-Mobile did say that CURRENTLY tethering was not available but they were LOOKING into it because customers are interested. "Looking into it" is just their way of saying "Yeah, we're gonna support tethering but we're figuring out what to charge for it".
Bottom line, you don't like it, leave T-Mobile if you think they're screwing you. Why stress yourself out by *****ing about it?

I'm just wondering about those who are semi-rooted running the wifi tether app? How is t-mobile going to be able to distinguish this from any other data use? I use the wifi tether for root users apk on a daily basis since I got visionary, I guess I'll see on my november billing cycle whether they can tell or not.

ddgarcia05 said:
Source: http://www.buzzbox.com/preview/t-mobile-launching-14-99-tethering-plan-november-3rd/?id=11345568
To the OP, it's still unlimited data. You'll get dropped to Edge when you pass your 5gig softcap on a data plan. If you pay extra for tethering you'll be added an additional 5gigs. Thus bringing the softcap to 10gigs.
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That may be how it operates (I do not know) but that is not what the quoted article says. It says that tethering counts towards your 5GB cap.
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The tethering plan also counts towards your 5GB data cap. So that means once you’ve used 5GB of data, your speeds will be throttled.
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i.e. if you have a 5GB cap now, you will have a 5GB cap when you add tethering. I assume if you have a 10GB cap now you would have a 10GB cap when tethering.

Chuckmoney said:
I'm just wondering about those who are semi-rooted running the wifi tether app? How is t-mobile going to be able to distinguish this from any other data use? I use the wifi tether for root users apk on a daily basis since I got visionary, I guess I'll see on my november billing cycle whether they can tell or not.
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I don't think they care if you use tether or not. They probably hope you do. It's people who already tether that are mostly likely going to feel the hit. Every smartphone user pays for a data plan which is for 5gigs. What you do with those 5gigs is up to you ex. tether, torrents, xbox live, mp3 downloads, stream porn, its doesn't mater. After your 5gigs are up. Then what? Can hardcore tether users live off an Edge connection? No. Now people who have never tethered before and know nothing about root will think it's awesome. When in fact they could have been tethering long before. When you stop and see it from that angle, how many of these tmo customers who are going to get the tether package will ever hit the 5gig limit? I doubt may of them will. They probably wont even tap into their tethering plan and fall below the 5gig data plan softcap. Which means they've paid $14.99, for data they never even used.
This is assuming that tmo will see any form of data movement weather it be through tethering or receiving a MMS as data. This would tie into the whole tmo can suspect you of tethering because of a 6/8/20/100mb usage her and there. When normally I've never gone pass 500mb a month even with very lite tethering.
Or I could just be flat out wrong.

This is complete bs. Does this apply to older phones too? I'm a hardcore USB tether user on my G1. How will they even be able to tell if I'm tethering or not?

ddgarcia05 said:
Source: http://www.buzzbox.com/preview/t-mobile-launching-14-99-tethering-plan-november-3rd/?id=11345568
To the OP, it's still unlimited data. You'll get dropped to Edge when you pass your 5gig softcap on a data plan. If you pay extra for tethering you'll be added an additional 5gigs. Thus bringing the softcap to 10gigs.
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Many other sources are reporting that there's no increase in your limit. So 5gb may still apply.
http://www.tmonews.com/2010/10/t-mobile-launching-14-99-tethering-plan-november-3rd/
via... http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2010/10/26/t-mobile-to-debut-tethering-plan-on-november-3rd-14-99/
Either way, screw that - I'll never pay for tethering.

I think this was their plan the whole time? Which is most likely why the G2 is locked down the the it is. They want to charge for something that can be done for free if the phone was rooted. I wouldn't be shocked if all phones from this point on is locked up as well.

So technically, they are not allowing unlimited data, correct? I did not read through a lot of this thread, but from what I understood in the first two posts, it seems like T-Mobile is changing their contact, looks like it might be time for me to get out for free.

Good god, why are you people so upset? Tethering isn't technically allowed right now, although tons of people do it. What, are you guys going to stop tethering because T-Mobile is going to charge for an official service? Of course not. You'll use PdaNet or mobile AP and T-Mobile won't give a crap, just like always.

xKERNALx said:
So technically, they are not allowing unlimited data, correct? I did not read through a lot of this thread, but from what I understood in the first two posts, it seems like T-Mobile is changing their contact, looks like it might be time for me to get out for free.
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No, it's still unlimited data, it's just that there's a soft cap where they'll throttle you down to Edge if you go over 5GB. But the soft cap applies to all data, whether tethered or not, and always has (it used to be 10GB).

Thats pretty messed up. Yea I tether alot i wont lie but i also watch movies on the g2. As in streaming wise. And streaming video pulls almost half a meg a second. So because i stream movies and watch tv on my g2 ive gotten to over 800 mb in a night. So what, they going to charge me and think im tethering? Thatz jes straight up stupid
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hawaiian.monzta said:
Thats pretty messed up. Yea I tether alot i wont lie but i also watch movies on the g2. As in streaming wise. And streaming video pulls almost half a meg a second. So because i stream movies and watch tv on my g2 ive gotten to over 800 mb in a night. So what, they going to charge me and think im tethering? Thatz jes straight up stupid
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No... if you read around, or simply right above your post, the tether charge will be for the native app. If you go over the 5gig limit they throttle you down to edge speeds

Well since there is no 3G service where I live being bumped down to edge speeds is kind of an idle threat for me lol.
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In my own situations, whenever I want to stream or do anything data intensive, I always have wifi around anyways ie. work, school, home etc

Shambala001 said:
No... if you read around, or simply right above your post, the tether charge will be for the native app. If you go over the 5gig limit they throttle you down to edge speeds
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But how can tmobile charge tether fees and justify that someone is indeed tethering? Who is really going to pay an extra 14.99 just to have tmobile okay with tethering??
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hawaiian.monzta said:
But how can tmobile charge tether fees and justify that someone is indeed tethering? Who is really going to pay an extra 14.99 just to have tmobile okay with tethering??
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Damn. Have you read past the 2 first post? I answered both these questions on the first page. I'm not pissed I'm just wondering my post made sense.

$15 tethering plan tmo :p

So this is what it's come to...
http://phandroid.com/2010/11/01/t-mobile-launches-200mb-data-plan-and-tethering-add-on/
15 dollar for the right to tether. Still 5gb cap!!!
More like 5gb crap!

ntellegence said:
So this is what it's come to...
http://phandroid.com/2010/11/01/t-mobile-launches-200mb-data-plan-and-tethering-add-on/
15 dollar for the right to tether. Still 5gb cap!!!
More like 5gb crap!
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like anyone here is going to buy that tethering plan...lol a data plan is enough to pay for..just use it

You laugh...if they pull a sprint you hit 5gb you are tethering. You will pay. No tethering is in our contracts I believe.

They can do deep packet inspection from their network to detect tethering. Doesn't mean they will.

Even though TM has the 5GB cap, once a customer reaches the cap, TM has the option to throttle the speeds depending on the customer's past usage. But TM won't charge an overage fee like the other carriers.

I've thought about this after I saw the press release yesterday and was wondering if they weren't going to institute the soft cap for people that are buying the tethering. If that was the case, I may actually pay up and ditch my home internet or go to an economy plan just so my wife can surf. If they are still enforcing the cap for people buying the tethering plan, this is total crap.

dattaway said:
They can do deep packet inspection from their network to detect tethering. Doesn't mean they will.
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LOL. Trust me, unless a LOT has changed in the past 2 years.... deep packet inspection won't be happening any time soon.
For the most part, it is all cell phone companies can do to keep their sites working properly while slowly expanding service.
I'm not saying it won't ever happen... but we are still a few years from it making financial sense for them to dedicate resources to reading the user-agent on your http requests

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LOL. Trust me, unless a LOT has changed in the past 2 years.... deep packet inspection won't be happening any time soon.
For the most part, it is all cell phone companies can do to keep their sites working properly while slowly expanding service.
I'm not saying it won't ever happen... but we are still a few years from it making financial sense for them to dedicate resources to reading the user-agent on your http requests
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I find the trend towards cap + tethering fee quite offensive. A tethering fee with unlimited data makes some kind of sense, but when you're only getting 5GB regardless it seems horribly anti-consumer.
We can observe that, e.g., AT&T hasn't made an effort (at least, not a successful one) to crack down on tethering, and we can hope that the same is true for T-Mobile. But it doesn't change the fact that this is a horribly annoying move from a carrier that I used to think had the most pro-consumer policies in this country.
If it comes to it, I'll route through a VPN when tethering to avoid detection before I'll pay this fee.

JeremyNT said:
I find the trend towards cap + tethering fee quite offensive. A tethering fee with unlimited data makes some kind of sense, but when you're only getting 5GB regardless it seems horribly anti-consumer.
We can observe that, e.g., AT&T hasn't made an effort (at least, not a successful one) to crack down on tethering, and we can hope that the same is true for T-Mobile. But it doesn't change the fact that this is a horribly annoying move from a carrier that I used to think had the most pro-consumer policies in this country.
If it comes to it, I'll route through a VPN when tethering to avoid detection before I'll pay this fee.
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As has been stated MANY TIMES now, unlike other providers, all T-Mo will do if you hit the 5gb "cap" is slow the connection down, not cut you off or charge you up the wazoo, so it's not really capped

RobBull69 said:
I've thought about this after I saw the press release yesterday and was wondering if they weren't going to institute the soft cap for people that are buying the tethering. If that was the case, I may actually pay up and ditch my home internet or go to an economy plan just so my wife can surf. If they are still enforcing the cap for people buying the tethering plan, this is total crap.
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Your 5GB cap still applies while tethered. Download 100MB of slacker on your phone, then tether to your PC to download 100MB of porn, and you just used 200MB of your allotment (although you had an arguably fun time doing so).
That said, I don't see why a single person in this forum would be concerned. None of the rooted roms will have the tethering feature blocked anyways. So T-Mobile won't know the difference.
Oh, and for what it's worth, I hit 5GB a few days ago and will theoretically be capped for another few days.
You don't wanna get capped.

JeremyNT said:
I find the trend towards cap + tethering fee quite offensive. A tethering fee with unlimited data makes some kind of sense, but when you're only getting 5GB regardless it seems horribly anti-consumer.
We can observe that, e.g., AT&T hasn't made an effort (at least, not a successful one) to crack down on tethering, and we can hope that the same is true for T-Mobile. But it doesn't change the fact that this is a horribly annoying move from a carrier that I used to think had the most pro-consumer policies in this country.
If it comes to it, I'll route through a VPN when tethering to avoid detection before I'll pay this fee.
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I really despise the attitude that any additional charges automatically equals "anti-consumer". T-mobile is not anti-consumer. No corporation with individual customers is anti-consumer. These networks have every NEED and RIGHT to charge for data services, and charge in such a way encourages moderate consumption. If any single carrier implemented a 15$ unlimited data+tether plan, the flood of consumers would bring the network to it's knees.
In reality, a plan which encourages moderate consumption over vast over gorging on data is entirely "pro-consumer" according to your terms, because it increases the likelihood of stability of the network.
And last of all, T-mobile doesn't have a cap. It's a throttle point. It's not a cap. Furthermore, T-mobile doesn't charge for data over the "cap". Other networks do. It encourages moderate consumption, it protects itself from zealous consumers, and DOESN'T charge overrages and extra fees. That sound pretty darn pro-consumer to me.

I don't mind the tmo 5gb "cap", it's reasonable and I've never come close to it. I also don't try to use the cellular network for bittorrent and such. I do stream audio and video over it a fair bit though. IMO, the tethering fee is retarded. It shouldn't matter what device I use 5gb of data on, only THAT I use 5gb of data. That said, it's probably in part to pay for the support of idiots that can't figure out how to use it. Customer support is EXPENSIVE compared to network time. People here will just use our root apps and such to do it, and they will likely never know. DPI can tell, but encryption will remove that issue. VPN is easy enough to set up.

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In reality, a plan which encourages moderate consumption over vast over gorging on data is entirely "pro-consumer" according to your terms, because it increases the likelihood of stability of the network.
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But that's not what a tethering surcharge is, when you're already capped at 5GB.
Pay per use? Fine. Charge for tethering when a plan's unlimited (I mean, really unlimited)? Fine, I can see that. But to both impose a 5GB limit (and don't kid yourself, you do not want to be throttled to dialup speeds) and to charge for tethering is just an arbitrary fee.
Mobile providers are dumb pipes, and that's how they should bill. I don't mind if they bill me for how many geebees of data I use, but I do mind when they bill me based on how I use that data.
Oh, and I realize that T-Mobile could be worse. There's a reason I'm still with them. But that doesn't mean that they're good, or that this policy doesn't negatively impact my perception of their pricing structure.
Do they have the right to do it? Sure they do. But it's a tactic that counts as a negative for me personally, so I'm more likely to switch to another carrier in the future if one has a pricing structure that I'm more comfortable with.

They aren't charging for "how" as much as they're charging for convenience. Tetherable smartphones undercut data stick sales and monthly data stick fees that road warriers used to pay. The fees are their way to make up for that loss.

does t-mobile have a dial code to check monthly data usage? like #674# for text?

GingerBlur hotspot

Any way to create hotspot in Gignerblur (without paying extra to ATT) ?

Wow, this is exactly what people were talking about in that long thread about how most people dont steal tethering, lol. Way more of the casual users do than you think and thus its justified for At&T to lock down any device they feel they need to.
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Data plans are already limited. Screw them.
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Wow, this is exactly what people were talking about in that long thread about how most people dont steal tethering, lol. Way more of the casual users do than you think and thus its justified for At&T to lock down any device they feel they need to.
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F that -- I pay for unlimited internet access from them AND for unlimited text (even though texting is JUST data). I should be able to use my unlimited internet the way I want to use it without having to incur more charges.

1) texting is NOT DATA, it uses un-use protions of the VOICE network.
2) you pay for unlimited data on YOUR DEVICE not on every wi-fi enabled device you own.

Did you enable tether+sideload when you rooted? If so, just choose the custom tether APN and then enable hotspot. Tether+sideload is something separate from Gingerblur.

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1) texting is NOT DATA, it uses un-use protions of the VOICE network.
2) you pay for unlimited data on YOUR DEVICE not on every wi-fi enabled device you own.
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ATT gives us 2gb of data for 25 dollars a month, why do they get to control the way that we use those 2gb? If you were on an unlimited plan and used tens of gigs per month then I would understand how that would be abusing the system but if you are on a data capped plan then tether away in my opinion.

I would agree except you signed a contract.

Yes. , we all signed contracts. It's not like we were given much choice. In the usa all cell carriers practice the same policy. They all make money from costumers that need their services. But they force our hand into paying for services that are overpriced and convenientley designed to bring them even more profit to our losses. I would love to be able to buy a smartphone and use the limited data plan it comes with any way I want to. If I get 2 gigs and want to use them through my pc, well, than I should've allowed to do so. Data is data and is sold to us in a certain quantity, at not allways good quality, because or speed limitations and reception. We pay for it anyway, but why should we settle for tethering charges? Well because we have no choice. All carriers do the same so there are no options. They do it because they want more monkey and apparently nobody can stop them. Its like gas prices. They find the lamest reasons to increase prices and they get away with it because we need gas and are so damn dependent on it. We now need data and we will pay for it no matter the unfairness of the conditions. Maybe they should start charging extra if we buy gas for anything else other than our personal cars. Like if u want to use your boat, well, than u have to have a different price for that. Im tyerd and rambling but its not right.
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dcarpenter85 said:
Did you enable tether+sideload when you rooted? If so, just choose the custom tether APN and then enable hotspot. Tether+sideload is something separate from Gingerblur.
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How do I do that? I did exactly this directions ... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=12631216&postcount=2911
Thanks a lot
To Forcelite. I pay for 2GB data, I would like to use it whatever way I'd like.

It should have asked you if you wanted to enable sideloading and/or tethering at somepoint after you ran beforeupdate.bat

Got it, thanks
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZi-5MOs7pc

this reminds me of back in the day when isp tried to charge extra for people with more than one computer in the house, then wifi routers came along... kinda ridiculous that people pay for their data and cant use it how they want, what difference does it make as long as users dont go over their data plan. this just seems like a method for att to get people to sign up for more data that they can use by restricting tether.

[Q] [discuss]- May 22: T-moUS now charges for teathering/WiFi-Sharing!

Bad news! I am at a buddies house using WiFi Router, and then Internet Sharing over Bluetooth PAN and just got a text from the new AT&T owned T-mobile service center saying my teather/WiFi sharing will be blocked unless I purchase a special plan from them...
I LOVE my HD2 Leo, but after everything they've put me through over the last 2 years, this may be the final insult. Free teathering and recently the way cool xda WiFi Router app have been a benifit allowance that now will be tossed on the plate of the all mighty cash cow.
I wonder if a cooked ROM HD2, or 3rd party app might get around this, but alas! They probably detect the networked devices different IP. Can we Yanks please flood T-mobile customer service with requests to stop this greedy new rule? If one has the unlimited data plan, what does it matter which device is using it?

greedy? why is it greedy? the networks are tehre to make money aswell as provide a service, the data plan you have is normally for mobile data use only, the network im on do not allow tethering at all due to the sheer volume of data than can be used when you hook a laptop up tot he data connection
nothing will get around it if they are using software to detect what header data is being sent
is it truly unlimited tho? my proivder says it is unlinuted buyt there is a soft cap of about 20Gb whcih if you are using that on a mobile phone is absolutely crazy, it is stop people using a cheaper mobile data connection than havin to pay for proper broadband

AtticusPhynch said:
Bad news! I am at a buddies house using WiFi Router, and then Internet Sharing over Bluetooth PAN and just got a text from the new AT&T owned T-mobile service center saying my teather/WiFi sharing will be blocked unless I purchase a special plan from them...
I LOVE my HD2 Leo, but after everything they've put me through over the last 2 years, this may be the final insult. Free teathering and recently the way cool xda WiFi Router app have been a benifit allowance that now will be tossed on the plate of the all mighty cash cow.
I wonder if a cooked ROM HD2, or 3rd party app might get around this, but alas! They probably detect the networked devices different IP. Can we Yanks please flood T-mobile customer service with requests to stop this greedy new rule? If one has the unlimited data plan, what does it matter which device is using it?
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Which plan do you have?

Richy99 said:
greedy? why is it greedy? the networks are tehre to make money aswell as provide a service, the data plan you have is normally for mobile data use only, the network im on do not allow tethering at all due to the sheer volume of data than can be used when you hook a laptop up tot he data connection
nothing will get around it if they are using software to detect what header data is being sent
is it truly unlimited tho? my proivder says it is unlinuted buyt there is a soft cap of about 20Gb whcih if you are using that on a mobile phone is absolutely crazy, it is stop people using a cheaper mobile data connection than havin to pay for proper broadband
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You are lucky, T_Mobile has a 5GB soft cap, unless your 20GB quote was a typo and was suppose to be 2GB.
You are right if they are looking for people tethering then they will find you. I tether a good bit so I know they will find me eventually and I will hate it. I mean no matter what someone says about it, this is a clear injustice to the consumer. The consumer should have the right to use their devices and services they pay for in the manor they wish. Not be told 'Hey sorry but we can nolonger offer this service for free". It is a crock if you ask me.
I don't know why you say a cheaper mobile data service. Cause I pay $30 USD a month for my unlimited data, and it is $30 a month for a broadband service on a USB broad band device for my computer through T-Mobile. It uses the same dang network as my phone at the same dang speeds. So please tell me why I should have to pay for a "proper broadband" service, if I already have it with my phone? All you get when you get a broadband device is the cost of the device coupled with the monthly payment for the services. It is even worse that they want you to pay for something that has been free for a good while now just to add to their profits. It has nothing to do with this bull you heart about overloaded networks and the sort, those are all just a legitimizing statements to say "Hey we are right to instate these news regulations", and the mindless masses to not question the real legitimacy of it.

T-Macgnolia said:
You are lucky, T_Mobile has a 5GB soft cap, unless your 20GB quote was a typo and was suppose to be 2GB.
You are right if they are looking for people tethering then they will find you. I tether a good bit so I know they will find me eventually and I will hate it. I mean no matter what someone says about it, this is a clear injustice to the consumer. The consumer should have the right to use their devices and services they pay for in the manor they wish. Not be told 'Hey sorry but we can nolonger offer this service for free". It is a crock if you ask me.
I don't know why you say a cheaper mobile data service. Cause I pay $30 USD a month for my unlimited data, and it is $30 a month for a broadband service on a USB broad band device for my computer through T-Mobile. It uses the same dang network as my phone at the same dang speeds. So please tell me why I should have to pay for a "proper broadband" service, if I already have it with my phone? All you get when you get a broadband device is the cost of the device coupled with the monthly payment for the services. It is even worse that they want you to pay for something that has been free for a good while now just to add to their profits. It has nothing to do with this bull you heart about overloaded networks and the sort, those are all just a legitimizing statements to say "Hey we are right to instate these news regulations", and the mindless masses to not question the real legitimacy of it.
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no not a typo, thats what some people have downlaoded before being cut off, personally i dont use anywhere near 500meg because i do all my browsing etc when im conencted to wifi in the house, people seem use the data connection on their phone for their home internet which is what causes the high volumes