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Think there are a lot of people out there who have been considering between the 2, and with Touch Pro out (it just released over the weekend here in Singapore) and X1 still yet to have a 100% confirmed released date (still wondering if October's a confirmed date, and even then, whether as the case of Touch Pro, it'd be released even later here), a lot of people have been getting the Touch Pro instead. I myself am really tempted to do so too, but there's still that little bit that's holding me back to get the X1. Thing is there's so many points about the Touch Pro that seemingly give it an edge over the X1.
X1:
* WVGA (this a pro or a con?)
* Larger screen (but 'non standard' screen size that might cause some apps to not work)
* 4 row and supposedly crappier keypad (though good in that the keys are more spaced out)
* 3.5mm audio jack (which doesn't matter to me)
* Better video playback (or am I wrong)
* Slightly thinner and lighter
* Higher capacity battery (1500 vs 1340 mAh for Touch Pro)
* Metal casing
* Possibility of SE splitting (meaning loss in support?)
Touch Pro
* VGA
* 'Standard' screen size that 3rd party apps are built for
* 5 row and supposedly better keypad
* TV out (doesn't quite matter to me either)
* Accelerometer (till now no confirmation whether X1 has)
* Higher RAM (288 vs 256MB in X1)
* Slightly smaller
* Plastic casing
* Larger support community (whether X1 will have one remains to be seen)
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Correct me if I've got any point wrong. Lookswise I used to think the X1 looked better, but until lately was starting to feel it looked worse and worse, though most recent videos kinda made me change my mind again (ya... I am just so fickle-minded)
Anyway, what do you all think? Don't wish to be getting the Touch Pro and regret not waiting for the X1 to be out to do an actual comparison. Or is there anyone who has tried both (probably test set of X1) and able to comment on points like the keypad and running of 3rd party apps?
Btw, reason I'm posting this here rather than in other forums that I visit is cos there seem to be more people here with test units and so was hoping to get more opinions here.
Hmmm a good post! Couple of things I would like to say...
You say:
* Possibility of SE splitting (meaning loss in support?)
I have not heard this, would you or anyone like to expand on this?
* Higher RAM (288 vs 256MB in X1)
From what I can gather from other threads this could just be the way HTC has tried to make it look like the Touch Pro has more memory by including 32MB of memory from somewhere else in the device.
* Larger support community (whether X1 will have one remains to be seen)
Like you said I think we will have to wait on this one, the only reason the Touch Pro has more support is because it is actually out now! Any phone that is on this website has MASSIVE community support, which is one of the main reasons this is one of the best websites I know for phones, and is one of the main reasons i will (mostly) always choose a HTC built device!
One thing that annoys me is that a company will give a release date for a phone but the phone wont be available to the average joe, like me,(by that I mean someone who doesnt want to pay nearly half a months wages for a phone i.e. £500+) for perhaps 1-2 months after its stated release date!
As you can tell I want either phone, im just waiting till they com out on the major UK networks so I can:
a) get them for a reasonable price, if not free
b) actually play with them before I choose which one to get!
I am sacraficing a 5MP camera for a QWERTY keyboard as I use the internet on my phone a lot. Therefore I am leaning towards the Xperia X1 as it has a larger screen.
Any help would be appreciated in this matter
Great post. Hope it gets the response it deserves, cos im in exactly the same predicament.
One thing i keep reading, is that the X1 is the best choice for multimedia.
I dont exactly see what is meant by that, looking at both spec sheets, except for the bigger screen res.
I am led to believe that the SE media player app is not yet present on the X1.
Anyone with a proto, please step up to the keyboard! your input is needed.
The few people i have identified as having X1 protos, seem to be very reserved about what they give away.
This is probably to do with the SE police.
Heres hoping that the SE webcast scheduled for 15th Sept will be the release info for X1, and all info can then be talked about openly.
My preference would be X1, but i would have no problem owning a touch pro.
vinokirk said:
You say:
* Possibility of SE splitting (meaning loss in support?)
I have not heard this, would you or anyone like to expand on this?
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Sony CEO considering dumping Ericsson for sucking so much at mobile phone business lately
Sony Ericsson Xperia X1 will be the last Windws Mobile phone from Sony Ericsson
Anyway, what makes me even more in a rush to decide between the X1 and Touch Pro is cos the Touch Pro is out with a promotional (2-year) contract price of SGD788 (approximately USD548) till this coming Friday. Actual price is supposedly SGD988 (approximately USD688).
X1 for me
The pro is a great increment over the TyTNII ...
But as most people probably experience ... VGA is really only a prettifier over QVGA ... it doesn't give you much real extra screen estate (if any) with most apps.
WVGA on the other hand makes a tremendous difference (from web browsing to today screen to Softmaker Office to CoPilot).
I tried it for the first time with the G900 and all my apps worked and all but one filled the screen properly ....
The X1 screen should therefore be a dramatic improvement on the Pro.
Also ... the Camera and Radio are SE parts ... not HTC and as such will be like most SE phones. This means the camera will perform more like decent SE devices and video at 30fps should be like the N95 ... which means I can get away with one phone at long last.
The N95 radio was rubbish ... this should be a good one.
Those things alone should make this standout a lot from the Pro.
I like to add the
x1
optical joystick for scrolling
touch screen focus
vga video recording
Touch Pro
navigation wheel
the touch sensitive button for focus doesn't even work half the time
While they both have qwerty, I didn't like how each roll of keys directly line up above the next row on the Touch Pro vs the its offset by half a key on the next row on the Xperia. And there is no gaps/spacing between the keys on the htc either.
In the end I only got the Touch Pro because it was out first and I know HTC does Windows Mobile for a living while I was concerned it might have been a one time thing for SE.
Interesting Ipporek, I was unaware of this! Which leads me onto htcplussony's comment abut the X1 being a one time thing, whereas HTC have been churning out WinMo devices for years and hopefully will continue to do so.
I do like the TouchFlo3D of the Touch Pro, is it likely to be 'ported' over to the X1 and if it is, will it fit nicely with the larger screen/resolution, and will it run fine or crash/make the system slower!? Only time will tell with that one i suppose.
Also: not only has the X1 battery a higher capacity, it's a Li-Po battery (whereas the Pro has a Li-Ion battery). Li-Po batteries can hold much more energy. Keeping that in mind, the battery should last much longer on an X1 than on a Pro.
I also firmly believe the X1 will be much more innovative. HTC has already established its position in the pda-phone market, whereas this is SE's first step towards a more business market. They have the neccessary expertise to be able to pull it off however, and I have no doubt that they have not left anything that could be improved untouched. Not only does SE have to innovate and come with new and interesting approaches, HTC hardly can innovate. They have already established their reputation, and they can not drastically change their course or they would lose a lot of users. As an example, we see the Xperia panel interface, it's a whole new approach taken, and I'm quite confident there will be a lot more different little innovations inside.
Ultimately for me it's 2 major concerns (which I mentioned earlier):
1. Is the keyboard of the X1 really as bad as it's being said to be? Unless the production set actually has some improvement in this area over the test sets, it might be a big issue (or at least for me).
2. Will there be a lot of apps that do not work with the X1 cos of the size/resolution incompatibility?
Lack of TV out and accelerometer I can live with. The 1 row less of keys that I can live with too (though till now I do kinda find the combination of a black casing and silver keypad weird). And the bigger size doesn't quite bother me (since it's only by a little and the X1 is thinner and lighter). Support community, ya, there's always the possibility that it'll grow. But the 2 points I mentioned above I can't quite ignore though.
Well, perhaps might be able to get the answer to one of my questions myself. Saw someone's post in another forum and realized that the Omnia too has a 'non-standard' resolution. In fact, it's proportionate to X1's (half in fact).
Samsung i900 Omnia - 400 x 240 pixels, 3.2 inches
Sony Ericsson XPERIA X1 - 800 x 480 pixels, 3.0 inches
LG KS20 - 320 x 240 pixels, 2.8 inches
HTC Touch Pro - 640 x 480 pixels, 2.8 inches
HTC Touch Diamond - 640 x 480 pixels, 2.8 inches
HTC Touch Cruise - 320 x 240 pixels, 2.8 inches
HTC Touch Dual - 320 x 240 pixels, 2.6 inches
HTC Touch - 320 x 240 pixels, 2.8 inches
HTC TyTN II - 320 x 240 pixels, 2.8 inches
i-mate Ultimate 9502 - 640 x 480 pixels, 2.8 inches
i-mate Ultimate 8502 - 320 x 240 pixels, 2.6 inches
Palm Treo Pro - 320 x 320 pixels, 2.5 inches
Other phones all seem to have either the standard 640x480 or 320x240 pixels resolution (well, except for the Treo Pro).
So would that mean that if an application can run properly on Omnia, it can run on the X1 too?
After seeing the website for the upcoming webcast and this Johnny X trailer, I can't help but feel that X1's more of a mass audience, entertainment-oriented phone as compared to Touch Pro which would be more of a business-oriented phone targetted more towards the more tech-savvy crowd.
I really wonder why nobody cares about reception / signal strength. For me it's quite the key-feature of a phone and the 3G reception of the Touch Pro is not very good.
I really would like to know if the X1 reception is better, because I use a lot of data transfers so it's essential for me.
I'm not quite sure if the Touch Pro can be really considered as a business devices because of reception problems.
Well, with the X1's release date being announced, it's making me wondering even more whether to hold back (on getting the Touch Pro).
HW Accelerated ?
Does someone know if X1 has 3D Hardware acceleration ?
So much uncertainties about the X1's specs eventhough it's near release. 3D hardware acceleration, accelerometer...
3D hardware acceleration is stated in the white paper..
Sep 30 it is. But where is Hong Kong.
X1 reception likely better than Touch Pro
foo said:
I really wonder why nobody cares about reception / signal strength. For me it's quite the key-feature of a phone and the 3G reception of the Touch Pro is not very good.
I really would like to know if the X1 reception is better, because I use a lot of data transfers so it's essential for me.
I'm not quite sure if the Touch Pro can be really considered as a business devices because of reception problems.
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The main reason for this is that HTC Touch Pro is Dual Band 900/2100 UMTS/HSDPA. The HTC TyTN II was Tri-Band 900/1900/2100. The Xperia will have similar reception to the TyTN II, definitely much much better than Touch Pro.
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The main reason for this is that HTC Touch Pro is Dual Band 900/2100 UMTS/HSDPA. The HTC TyTN II was Tri-Band 900/1900/2100. The Xperia will have similar reception to the TyTN II, definitely much much better than Touch Pro.
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I hope you're right. Skipped the Touch Pro because of weak 3G signal, but now it's really time for a new toy, so hopefully the reception of the X1 will be good.
For me it will be all about the support that this site gives the X1 to be honest because you can have the best phone in the world but without them custom programs / roms you will soon get bored with it, trust me
As much as I love the hd2 I am now having to send the hd2 back for repair because of issues of intermittant 3g connection and wifi. If the phone comes back defective again ,I may need to considor changing and the desire is top of my list at the moment. If you own (or have used for a significant amount of time) a desire. Please can you tell me how it compares to the hd2 in he following aspects(and others).
-battery life
-screen sensitivty
-bugs/lag of operating system
-camera/video recording
-browsing experience.
Thanks
I have a HD2, stock 1.66 CHT/WWE ROM. My friend has the Desire, stock Android ROM (not sure what version), unlocked from Telstra (Australian carrier). He has charged me with setting up his phone for the first time, such as a GPS program, movie converter etc. So I got a good dose of playing around with the Desire for a couple of days.
Here is what I think about both:
Both are captive screens, and fairly responsive. But after using the HD2 for so long I can safely say every other mobile screen you will ever gaze upon will seem small (I'm looking at the Xperia X1 alongside my HD2 now and it really hits me, even though they are both 480x800).
Both phones have a few millisecond lag if say you are opening a 16GB folder, filled to the brim with movies. But apart from more intensive work like that, both are very responsive.
The optical joystick / hole / button / whatever-you-call it on the Desire is an awesome thing to have. One feature that stood out on the X1 was the optical trackpad, and the Desire continues that in a smaller form. Its one thing I don't need, but wish I had on the HD2.
There really is no way to accurately compare the battery life, as the different way each OS consumes juice and the hardware variations. But in-general, I noticed both were comparable, with the Desire exceeding the HD2 by about 3-4hours.
How did I reach that conclusion? Well I was playing with both phones side-by-side, and seeing if the features of one phone were on the other. So its NOT an accurate review, just rough.
I also had a quick playaround of the camera, and its nothing too different from the HD2. Both are on-par with what you'd expect from a PDA camera (which is not that good hah). There is one good thing about the Desire though, in that you can use the central button to take pictures. Making self-portraits so much easier as you don't have to press a particular location to trigger the camera on-screen.
As for the browsing experience I don't know, we didn't view any websites with the Desire, but I'd imagine it would be simillar. But from my experience I can't seem to get it connect to a Wi-Fi network, but this Desire and even my other friend's HTC Legend. But that's probably just me as I've yet to own an Android phone.
One thing that is important to me though, is the ability to connect the phone to the internet through your computer. Apparently you can't do that with Android systems? I spent about 2hours trying to mimic a phone>computer>activesync>internet connection on the Desire, only to be told by a quick Google search that its not possible. That killed me abit inside.
Unlike Windows Mobile, there is no default File Explorer on Android. I had to download and install one. What the hell Google?
Anyway not the best guide, and there is definately more playing around to do, but thats just a quick summary for someone who has had the chance to play around with the HD2 and Desire side-by-side.
Hi everybody,
i own a HTC Tattoo with the fyodor ROM which based on AOSP with bluetooth and camera.
Maybe my mobile provider gives my a new mobile at the end of this year/begin of 2011. At this time i prefer a HTC Desire or a Samsung Galaxy S I9000.
Which is the better mobile?
For my Android 2.1 or 2.2 (better) is necessary and a Autofocus Camera.
The Samsung is cheaper, but i think the HTC support is better than the Samsung support.
What do you think?
kind regards
srkonus
SGS 9000 has assisted picture taking
good for people with shaky hands
Pluses over the desire:
+ Super AMOLED Screen (Desire's got only AMOLED changing to SLCD soon I hear)
+ Built in 8/16GB memory (Desire has NONE)
+ Built in 2GB ROM for Apps (Desire has 512MB)
+ 720p HD recording (Desire to have it with an update soon)
+ 4.0" screen (Desire's 3.7")
+ True Multitouch (Desire has limited from what I've read)
+ WiFi B/G/N/DLNA (Desire only has B/G)
+ Bluetooth 3.0 (Desire has 2.1)
+ Secondary VGA Camera for Video Calls (Desire has none)
+ 1Ghz Hummingbird Processor (Desire has Snapdragon)
+ DivX Capability, FLAC Capability (Desire has none built-in)
+ ThinkFree Office (excellent document editor, Desire has none built-in)
+ Almost double the battery life of the Desire in some cases (check GSMarena)
+ Bigger screen yet LIGHTER than the Desire
+ TV-Out
And you say the Samsung is cheaper. Looks like a no brainer to me.
Korea and Brazil version even have Digital TV!!!!!!!
Before doing anything, I'd recommend waiting for Samsung's "GPS optimisation", to see if it fixes GPS in September. The GPS is currently problematic, and we can't prove whether the problem is software or hardware yet..
i do not have any gps problem - as i was a big fan (and i'm still now) of HTC devices - the gps from Galaxy is far better of any HTC gps devices i had before (hermes, tilt, diamond, touch pro, desire)
Maybe i'm just lucky but for now the SGS has the best gps which i had it in a phone
And btw -HTC has for the moment no phone which can came close (in the real life) with the gorgeous SGS (Desire is 3 time less powerfull in 3D applications)
my tough exactly
myself another HTC convert to Samsung
bau33 said:
i do not have any gps problem - as i was a big fan (and i'm still now) of HTC devices - the gps from Galaxy is far better of any HTC gps devices i had before (hermes, tilt, diamond, touch pro, desire)
Maybe i'm just lucky but for now the SGS has the best gps which i had it in a phone
And btw -HTC has for the moment no phone which can came close (in the real life) with the gorgeous SGS (Desire is 3 time less powerfull in 3D applications)
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bau33 said:
i do not have any gps problem - as i was a big fan (and i'm still now) of HTC devices - the gps from Galaxy is far better of any HTC gps devices i had before (hermes, tilt, diamond, touch pro, desire)
Maybe i'm just lucky but for now the SGS has the best gps which i had it in a phone
And btw -HTC has for the moment no phone which can came close (in the real life) with the gorgeous SGS (Desire is 3 time less powerfull in 3D applications)
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I didn't think I did either.. But, I turned on the GPS and waited in the same spot for 10mins unlocking and relocking, and the GPS shot out km's away if you check mytracks. And 20% of the time the bounds of accuracy were wrong. It's possible everyone has the problem, but haven't realised it (because most people don't use it in situations where the problems become obvious).
Hi,
thanks for the answers. I visit a shop and compare the Desire and the 9000. The Samsung was flatter than the HTC and the weight was less than the HTC. I feels good in my hands.
The next step is to see the menu of the 9000.
Was is about the GPS and lag Problem? Does every device has it? How does it strike?
Is Android 2.2 available for the 9000 - if i can have this no newer version is very importend.
kind regards
srkonus
Froyo update is coming out in September.
I have no idea what the lag and gps issue is about. Haven't encountered either of them at all.
Desire does have advantages over i9000 though. The optical joystick. Some apps (mainly games) requires a joystick to work. Though we probably won't see any more like that in the future. (since most android phones are ditching the track ball.) Desire also has slightly more RAM. It has 576 MB instead of 512 MB. There are also more custom ROM available.
So recently I have been trying to decide whether to get the HTC HD2 or the Iphone 3GS or 4. The only thing that is holding me back from getting the HTC HD2 Phone is whether I would be able to port Android 2.2 Froyo or 2.3 Gingerbread succsessfully without have many problems. Things that MUST WORK on the Android Port on the HTC HD2 is:
~ Camera and Video Recording ( with LED's Working)
~ Internet (E-mail etc.)
~ Video Playback & Music
~ Phone & Text
Thanks
HD2 FTW!!!
hang him!
+1 for hd2. iphone really sucks - a lot of friends have all time problems with it while apple has to fix bugs every week. on hd2 the devs fix the issues - but faster
+1 HD2
But you posted your question in the HD2 section. Not good way to get objective answers from both sides.
I have an HD2 and the only thing I would love about the iphone is the battery.
all the rest sucks no iphone!
Well unless you really like something about Windows Mobile 6.5.x then I'd suggest you go for the HTC Evo or the HTC Desire HD instead.
If you want a phone that works out of the box then go for the iphone.....if your a tweaker then take the hd2....if you just want android, then get htc desire hd
honestly, i will say the hd2...coming from a former iphone user. the ios interface is boring and non customizable. and the fact that there are no widgets drove me crazy becasue my brother had and android htc and used to show show me his home screen lol.
So my call is HD2 with miui rom like me
HectiQ said:
I have an HD2 and the only thing I would love about the iphone is the battery.
all the rest sucks no iphone!
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Battery sucks to,I had a iPhone 3g once,HD2 all the way,Apple still aint worked how to put contacts on your sim card yet,iOS is buggy and horrible,this week they made the news after the alarm app stopped working failling to wake people up in time and thousands left angry cus they overslept http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-12105625
It was quat a bugger
I have an HD2 and an iPhone.
you're going to want the HD2. Flashing a stable and working Android ROM on the phone is very easy and fast.
Heronization said:
So recently I have been trying to decide whether to get the HTC HD2 or the Iphone 3GS or 4. The only thing that is holding me back from getting the HTC HD2 Phone is whether I would be able to port Android 2.2 Froyo or 2.3 Gingerbread succsessfully without have many problems. Things that MUST WORK on the Android Port on the HTC HD2 is:
~ Camera and Video Recording ( with LED's Working)
~ Internet (E-mail etc.)
~ Video Playback & Music
~ Phone & Text
Thanks
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Why do you want de HD2 and not the desire HD as mentioned before?
But if between those 2, i would get the HD2 with android 2.2 for the time being, as it is more stable...
Also compared to the iphone 3gs, the camera app on the HD2 with android opens a lot faster to take a picture quickly, I've compared it to a friend who has the 3gs.. I am not sure how iphone 4 is in real life, but looking at: **click** it looks like it is even slower than the 3gs. so if this is a requirement, u are better of with the HD2..
Cheers!
I used to have an iPhone 3G but i sold it and i was between iPhone 4G and HD2..
So i went with HD2 and i will stick with it cause IT ROCKSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!
why bothering to buy an hd2 to put android on it, if you can just take the easy road by getting a desire hd in the first place
well either way,wether you get a desire hd,a HD2 desire Z or any other htc,There great phones and there Bullet proof,check this out http://www.wsbtv.com/news/26385757/detail.html cant say that for an iPhone can you
Go for the HD 2, you will not regret, you will fall in love with in in a giffy.....
Android friyo works perfectly, you can either dual boot winmo and android or wipe winmo and install android NAND as the root os..
I got android running as the root and no winmo. is super fast easy and i cant stop playing with in.,....
winmo was slow slugish and like all windows a headache....
Lol seriously what do you expect from an android phone on an hd2 section? But iPhone beside games app hd2 kills it.
HD2 pro:
* Bigger screen (4.3 vs 3.5 <---- pretty massive)
* Removal battery
* Widgets!
* Flash light (the death ray dual led blinding bright and save me a few times)
* Remote desktop is amazing (I own a ipod for music at gym but haven't found a vnc or remote apps better then one on android)
* More customizeable (UI, builds, roms and etc)
* Option between different OS (window 6.5, android 2.2, android 2.3, unbuntu, meego and window 7. Granted not all builds may be fully done but android has been fully stable.)
* Better keyboard (imho)
* Cheaper apps
* Goggles turn by turn navi (not sure if this has change)
Better web surfing (flash 10 really is a beast on H steaming my anime on the go is amazing.)
HD2 cons:
* Better music player (it's an ipod lol)
* Better Facebook app
* Bigger app store
* Better Games
i love my hd2, all my friend have iphone4's. but my hd2 is better, u used to dislike my phone with winmo (cauze it sucks) but now i have a nand android rom and its perfect now. the the big screen is great for watching movies when on the road.
<3 HD2
duckied said:
Lol seriously what do you expect from an android phone on an hd2 section? But iPhone beside games app hd2 kills it.
HD2 pro:
* Bigger screen (4.3 vs 3.5 <---- pretty massive)
* Removal battery
* Widgets!
* Flash light (the death ray dual led blinding bright and save me a few times)
* Remote desktop is amazing (I own a ipod for music at gym but haven't found a vnc or remote apps better then one on android)
* More customizeable (UI, builds, roms and etc)
* Option between different OS (window 6.5, android 2.2, android 2.3, unbuntu, meego and window 7. Granted not all builds may be fully done but android has been fully stable.)
* Better keyboard (imho)
* Cheaper apps
* Goggles turn by turn navi (not sure if this has change)
Better web surfing (flash 10 really is a beast on H steaming my anime on the go is amazing.)
HD2 cons:
* Better music player (it's an ipod lol)
* Better Facebook app
* Bigger app store
* Better Games
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THANKS A LOT MAN!! Thats exactly what I needed!! OH BTW I Thanked You !!!!
(^_^) not a problem, I've used both phone and also own an ipod touch so it was just my personal experience with the two...
stephandelaat said:
If you want a phone that works out of the box then go for the iphone.....if your a tweaker then take the hd2....if you just want android, then get htc desire hd
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Agreed. The HD2 will ask you several hours of reading and testing for running the best Android ROM for you. However, it is not a matter a difficulty : if you know your way around a computer, it's not difficult at all. There are really good tutorials out there and I was surprised on how easy things were with the HD2 (coming from the HTC Magic).
Of course, if you can afford yourself an iPhone 4 and really want an Android Phone, it would be smarter to go with an HTC Evo for example.
But if you like that your phone feels almost unlimited in terms of possibilities, the HD2 is what you are looking for...
Hello,
i am planning to buy a new smartphone. In the past i had some Windows Mobile Phones. The synchronising between Exchange and the smartphone was very good, but the performance and many "apps" are only for android, iphone or symbian, but not windows mobile
So.. i thought iphone or android. A friend of mine has a HTC Desire and he is satisfied with this device. But he suggested me to buy the follower device.
So i searched for the desire hd and found some pro and contras. I think the critical contras are:
- Device crashes very often
- Battery life (5h?)
- Difficulty to lift of the battery without destoing something
So i want to know what the archievements of the desire hd according to the desire are and if you would suggest me to buy the desire or the desire hd. And if you also discovered this contras.
I am not using wlan very often, i think, this is one of the features, that needs the most current...
Thank you for your help and sorry for my bad english
Best regards,
Selfarian
Depends what's best for you. The Desire HD is fast, and looks it, with its giant (although slightly washed out) screen. The desire is much prettier, although its processor is less efficient and older, using, some would say, 'outdated' technologies. Though it's not slow ;D The battery issues are with both phones, but are stretchable to a sufficient full day with a good ROM.In the end it's just about what matters to you - a beast of a massive screen with a powerhouse hiding behind it (with true multi-touch) Or an absolutely gorgeous phone with a smaller screen and performance to match (There are multi-touch issues- Best to read up on this, it could be vital in your decision.)
Good luck picking what works best for you
I agree with the post above. It all depends on what you need rather then the "best out there". Most comments on comparison, especially on a forum, are subjective.
With that said, the specs for the Desire and DHD are comparable. I own both and there are two things that make a difference; Screen size and type. I'm sure you know the differences between them from the research you have already made.
i havent experienced the crash problem to be honest, and battery life is about the same it was with my desire. the battery cover is poorly designed, and every time you take it off, you feel as if your going to brake it lol touch wood i hasne broke yet tho
Ok. Have you any experiences how long the battery lasts in both devices with "normal" use and with the stock rom?
My experience is, that the battery in a smartphone lasts for 1 Day... maybe 1,5 Days...
At the moment i think, the hd is the better choice, because of the speed and the bigger display... i made so bad experiences with "slow" smartphones... I don't like it, when i want to place a call and my windows fone mentions: "Sense is restarting..."...
Selfarian said:
Ok. Have you any experiences how long the battery lasts in both devices with "normal" use and with the stock rom?
My experience is, that the battery in a smartphone lasts for 1 Day... maybe 1,5 Days...
At the moment i think, the hd is the better choice, because of the speed and the bigger display... i made so bad experiences with "slow" smartphones... I don't like it, when i want to place a call and my windows fone mentions: "Sense is restarting..."...
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I'm on stock and 16 hours before reaching 30% is typical for me. I use 3G and tether devices quite a bit. Calls, games, texts and e-mail are used throughout the day with sync on 100% of the time.
I've noticed that 3G uses a lot of battery and an hours worth of usage can easily knock off 15% while standby takes 1%/hour.
Bottomline is that it can, normally, get you through a typical workday.
That sounds very good... It seems to be the same usage that i will have...
Ok... the first days, when the device is new and when i "have to" try "every" app from the marketplace, the usage will be much more ...
Selfarian said:
That sounds very good... It seems to be the same usage that i will have...
Ok... the first days, when the device is new and when i "have to" try "every" app from the marketplace, the usage will be much more ...
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Yeah, I think 6 hours with you trying out every aspect of the phone will be as far as you go during the first few days. We do tend to be a bit over eager with something new.
There is another difference between the two 'phones - the number of Apps which can co-exist. I'm currently using the Desire, and I'm increasingly frustrated at the space available (or, rather, not) for new Apps, and I have moved as many as I can to the SD card (thanks to Froyo). Every time there's a new update to be downloaded, I have to uninstall some Apps before I have enough spare space, then re-download them.
The Desire HD has three times as much App storage space, as far as I can understand.
(Edit) Next payday, I'm intending to purchase the Desire HD, unless there's something better comes out beforehand!
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There is another difference between the two 'phones - the number of Apps which can co-exist. I'm currently using the Desire, and I'm increasingly frustrated at the space available (or, rather, not) for new Apps, and I have moved as many as I can to the SD card (thanks to Froyo). Every time there's a new update to be downloaded, I have to uninstall some Apps before I have enough spare space, then re-download them.
The Desire HD has three times as much App storage space, as far as I can understand.
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This is an interesting point and very true. I completely agree.
Selfarian said:
Hello,
i am planning to buy a new smartphone. In the past i had some Windows Mobile Phones. The synchronising between Exchange and the smartphone was very good, but the performance and many "apps" are only for android, iphone or symbian, but not windows mobile
So.. i thought iphone or android. A friend of mine has a HTC Desire and he is satisfied with this device. But he suggested me to buy the follower device.
So i searched for the desire hd and found some pro and contras. I think the critical contras are:
- Device crashes very often
- Battery life (5h?)
- Difficulty to lift of the battery without destoing something
So i want to know what the archievements of the desire hd according to the desire are and if you would suggest me to buy the desire or the desire hd. And if you also discovered this contras.
I am not using wlan very often, i think, this is one of the features, that needs the most current...
Thank you for your help and sorry for my bad english
Best regards,
Selfarian
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Hi, I tried desire and dhd, decide to keep dhd, its just much better phone for longer term - offer a bit more for money, and htcsense.com in another plus...
iant54 said:
There is another difference between the two 'phones - the number of Apps which can co-exist. I'm currently using the Desire, and I'm increasingly frustrated at the space available (or, rather, not) for new Apps, and I have moved as many as I can to the SD card (thanks to Froyo). Every time there's a new update to be downloaded, I have to uninstall some Apps before I have enough spare space, then re-download them.
The Desire HD has three times as much App storage space, as far as I can understand.
(Edit) Next payday, I'm intending to purchase the Desire HD, unless there's something better comes out beforehand!
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Ah ok... so... the Apps can (normally) only be stored on the internal storage and not on the sd card?
- Device crashes very often
Really? Which OS do u use? No problem here using CM7
- Battery life (5h?)
Are u playing online game? Well, on standby mode i can have it for ~18+ hours with regular calls/sms.
- Difficulty to lift of the battery without destoing something
Play with the demo device before u do it to ur fone =)
DHD is worth buying and it has better GPU than D
lpachuong said:
- Device crashes very often
Really? Which OS do u use? No problem here using CM7
- Battery life (5h?)
Are u playing online game? Well, on standby mode i can have it for ~18+ hours with regular calls/sms.
- Difficulty to lift of the battery without destoing something
Play with the demo device before u do it to ur fone =)
DHD is worth buying and it has better GPU than D
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I have no DHD, that are only some points, wich i read in some comments. So i just wanted to know if this are real problems (with the stock rom)...
ive been running the dhd since november 9th, and i can honistly say its the best thing since sliced bread, a couple of friends purchased the desire at the same time and they now look at mine in envy even though there is nothing wrong with thier phones.
The battery is not its stongest point, i listen to audiobooks all day at work and manage to get my battery down to 30% with calls and internet thrown in. But i also run juice defender that seems to make a massive improovement. There is also a thread about putting flash to on demand - ive just found this and currently testing so cannot comferm.
As for crashes, yes them machine was pretty buggy to start off with, but workaround and fixes have been done, ive found now since running leedroid my phone has been a solid as a pre 2000 nokia lol.
The covers on the battery and cards are a big let down, but tbh how often are you going to remove them?, unless your carrying extra batterys and cards around you will find that you wont remove them, i last removed my battery cover when i was rooting and flashing my phone originally in december. For the battery i carry around a zip charger which will 80% charge my phone if i need it, but this hasnt been used for about 2 months as well.
Ive never had a phone before that has impressed me to this degree, ive had the g1, moto milestone, wildfire (now the wifes) and the dhd - this is so far the only android phone i can see myself still using when my contract is up in 2 years.
This is how good the phone is, i sub to live prem football streaming site, and i watch all the games on my dhd - not though 3g mind you as the bandwidth is too low but on wifi its incredible.
now for getting an app that will make me a coffee......
I have had both phones. The screen on the desire is better...quite a bit better when you have them side by side. However for me, the HD is a better phone all round. I prefer the bigger screen. I was concerned about it fitting in my pocket, but I had nothing to worry about. More memory for apps, bigger screen, faster processor...easy decision for me.
I suggest you wait.. for the next batch of phones..
It is too late to decide on those 2 since their elder brothers are coming soon
Got the dhd. It rocked my world really. Battery can go anywhere between 12h(wireless, games, calls, music, surfing) and close to 48h with minimal but not zero usage. Has hd recording whereas desire does not. Bigger screen, aluminium build. Froyo by default, although i read something about the desire getting it too. Also i have to warn you, you will not let it out of your hands for some 10ish hours after you first open it. Only disadvantage you could have is the phone being too big for your pocket. Regarding crashes... never had one since i bought it. You should also consider the desire z if you're a casual phone user. Oh yes, the dolby audio enhancement + stock headphones = win
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Thanks for all the new suggestions.
Problem is now, my wife won't spent so much money for a mobilephone DAMN IT!!!!
My hope is, when the desire s (unsure if the name is right) comes out, the hd gets cheaper...
*hoping so much*
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Got the dhd. It rocked my world really. Battery can go anywhere between 12h(wireless, games, calls, music, surfing) and close to 48h with minimal but not zero usage. Has hd recording whereas desire does not. Bigger screen, aluminium build. Froyo by default, although i read something about the desire getting it too. Also i have to warn you, you will not let it out of your hands for some 10ish hours after you first open it. Only disadvantage you could have is the phone being too big for your pocket. Regarding crashes... never had one since i bought it. You should also consider the desire z if you're a casual phone user. Oh yes, the dolby audio enhancement + stock headphones = win
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The desire has HD Video recording and also had froyo before the DHD was even released. So i dont know what your chatting about..
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