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HTC Incredible vs Samsung Vibrant: HTC Incredible is faster?

I have the Vibrant. My friend has the Incredible. I compared the two.
While on paper the Vibrant tops the Incredible in terms of hardware (aside from camera related areas), the Incredible seems to be a bit more snappy. Now I am not saying the Vibrant is "slow", but rather there is noticeable ~.5-1 sec delay when opening messaging, for example, where as the Incredible has none, at all. (I have applied Ryan's lagfix and hit 2.2k on Quadrant... wish Quadrant results would reflect actual performance.)
Seeing as how Vibrant has the better hardware, my guess is it must be Sense UI vs TouchWiz thing. I love TouchWiz (don't flame me) but if it is the one causing my otherwise great phone to slow down... I will nuke the thing.
What do you guys think?

I thought I saw that the incredible was starting to see froyo. Has he updated? That would make a huge difference. If you are seeing lash on the Samsung specific apps. I would say it is likely touchwiz vs. sense thing.
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We need a later firmware revision. The one we have isn't very good. Later versions reduce or eliminate the type of lag you're talking about.
Besides that, I don't know what you're trying to prove here

My guess would be it's Touchwiz that causes this but there could also be other factors involved. I have a friend with an incredible and he replaced his messaging with handcent because the lag he was getting from opening the messaging app itself as well as the threads.
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DarkAgent said:
I have the Vibrant. My friend has the Incredible. I compared the two.
While on paper the Vibrant tops the Incredible in terms of hardware (aside from camera related areas), the Incredible seems to be a bit more snappy. Now I am not saying the Vibrant is "slow", but rather there is noticeable ~.5-1 sec delay when opening messaging, for example, where as the Incredible has none, at all. (I have applied Ryan's lagfix and hit 2.2k on Quadrant... wish Quadrant results would reflect actual performance.)
Seeing as how Vibrant has the better hardware, my guess is it must be Sense UI vs TouchWiz thing. I love TouchWiz (don't flame me) but if it is the one causing my otherwise great phone to slow down... I will nuke the thing.
What do you guys think?
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Have you applied the "fix" yet? I don't see any delays or lag when I open apps.

if you apply the "lag fix" i'm almost certain you won't be able to notice any slow downs in terms of opening applications.
from the limited knowledge I have of the whole "samsung vibrant lag" it's caused by the way the vibrant processes I/O read/write? it's very inefficient as compared to other phones. the fix is a work around and it literally makes it amazingly "snappy" and fast.
I'm choosing to hold off on the fix for now, people reporting issues and having to ODIN flash back to stock is turning me off.
*edit - totally missed the part that said you applied the lag fix. reading comprehension ftl

the OP said:
While on paper the Vibrant tops the Incredible in terms of hardware (aside from camera related areas), the Incredible seems to be a bit more snappy. Now I am not saying the Vibrant is "slow", but rather there is noticeable ~.5-1 sec delay when opening messaging, for example, where as the Incredible has none, at all. (I have applied Ryan's lagfix and hit 2.2k on Quadrant... wish Quadrant results would reflect actual performance.)
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He has applied the lag fix.

Tpavey said:
I thought I saw that the incredible was starting to see froyo. Has he updated? That would make a huge difference. If you are seeing lash on the Samsung specific apps. I would say it is likely touchwiz vs. sense thing.
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Naw, hes on 2.1

heygrl said:
We need a later firmware revision. The one we have isn't very good. Later versions reduce or eliminate the type of lag you're talking about.
Besides that, I don't know what you're trying to prove here
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Not trying to prove anything. I am half venting my superphone is not-so-super and half asking for advice on this issue (indirectly).

bdveteran18 said:
My guess would be it's Touchwiz that causes this but there could also be other factors involved. I have a friend with an incredible and he replaced his messaging with handcent because the lag he was getting from opening the messaging app itself as well as the threads.
Sent from my awesome Vibrant using XDA App
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The problem is it isn't just on messaging; its pretty much everywhere (except browsing... browsing is blazing fast.)

I have a friend with an incredible its a few months old but I found the opposite to be true. Using her phone made me appreciate the speed of the vibrant, I almost felt like I was back using a G1. my phone is about as stock as you can get aside from running launcher pro instead of the regular home app.

2.2 will only make this thing faster. I use touchwiz to show off my phone. It is a lil choppy but never slow. I think our only competitor when we get 2.2 will be the x but for some reason im not worried.
Sgs

My Vibrant never lags. No fix applied.
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RIP my beloved rooted G1

Classie83 said:
My Vibrant never lags. No fix applied.
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Me neither. Had it since release. No lag and about 120 apps installed...
Just need 2.2 and I'm golden....
Gps even works good here... lol

After spending more time with TouchWiz's launcher, I can safely say it is the root of a lot lag. Sucks because I really like it.

heygrl said:
After spending more time with TouchWiz's launcher, I can safely say it is the root of a lot lag. Sucks because I really like it.
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I wonder how it would run on a snapdragon .. lol
Probably horrible ..

smashpunks said:
Me neither. Had it since release. No lag and about 120 apps installed...
Just need 2.2 and I'm golden....
Gps even works good here... lol
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Yupe .. same here.

Incredible user

So can I get some info on the X because I currently own an Incredible but have about a week now to switch. How do the two phones compare? Exactly how much can I do to the X? Currently my Incredible is rooted and using custom ROM and theme.
Thanks for the help in advance.
(Oh and is it true you can get rid of the UI on the X? I have a friend claiming he did)

CHPunk said:
So can I get some info on the X because I currently own an Incredible but have about a week now to switch. How do the two phones compare? Exactly how much can I do to the X? Currently my Incredible is rooted and using custom ROM and theme.
Thanks for the help in advance.
(Oh and is it true you can get rid of the UI on the X? I have a friend claiming he did)
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you can get rid of about 95% of the blur, some has to stay but its being worked on, custom roms are just starting to roll out. However the kernel is locked so no major tampering with the cpu yet.
I had the inc for about a week or two, X is a big upgrade. I wouldnt switch back.

The Droid X wins in every category you can think of but UI(senses). Custom roms/themes are being worked on, and since we rooted and have deodex'd we are fastly moving foward....

So you guys think I should switch? And would you say it's easier or harder to root than the Inc?
Sorry for all the questions, I just want to make sure I have the best phone possible for the next 18 months lol.

Droid X is easy to root on 2.1 just use Universal Androot Beta 1.6.2(Link is clickable) for easy installation of apk for phone for a 1-click root solution. but if you want root on 2.2 require a bit more work but its still easy.

Well looks like you convinced me to get the Droid X!

CHPunk said:
Well looks like you convinced me to get the Droid X!
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if you have any problems, visit Droid X Wiki

dr154 said:
if you have any problems, visit Droid X Wiki
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That's how you get the wiki out there!! LOL
But I came from the INC and I can basically do EVERYTHING that I coulddo with the INC on the X... except kernal modding.. obviously.

MrDanger said:
That's how you get the wiki out there!! LOL
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You know it MrDanger...

only issue you may have, well 2. When taking pics you will think they are horrible when looking at them on the phone, but when you look at them on a comp they are better than the inc. Just something i noticed when switching. And if you frequently use the speaker, (music or voice) the volume is stupid low...
Just thought i would give you a heads up on the only things i have noticed.

Thanks for the help guys, only problem is after going to verizon today I kind of want the Fascinate

I suppose the screen is a big plus, but I hear it feels cheap when compared to the build quality of the X.... not that I beat my phone up on purpose...

I have both (got my X today). Sense and it's quirks are vastly superior to Blur, but I won't keep a phone stock if I can find a real vanilla build. I do miss things like having a dialer that doesn't suck and some of the skins for sense. I could use Sense builds, but I can tell there is no way I'll want to use any of the Blur crap (except DNLA, which looks neat).
The device itself the X wins hands down. The look and feel of the actual device is just.. better. It's faster overall (I get quad scores about as fast as my SkyRaider build without OC) and the screen looks great and it doesn't ever lag for me. The downside is that it's huge and I don't use a case. One slap in the junk with this thing from my pocket when I was trotting down some steps had me thinking twice.
But the INC has lots of customizations and badass devs (SkyRaider/Cyanogen/Virt/Redemption and now Ruby), and I'm kind of just checking out how active it is over here to see how much support it will get. I know the Ruby guys just got an X so that would satisfy me pretty well and they seem to have 2 or 3 devs that seem dedicated.
In a few weeks/months I think the X will have some good things coming. Once they do, I will like the phone more than the INC.

Just remember the Fascinate does not have a LED notifier but there are some hacks around. There is no HDMI out either. I have to admit the screen colors are amazing as well as the form factor, but it almost feels cheap. I love the screen size on the DX, its fast, ruins cool and the developers are flocking to the device since Koush made the Bootstrap recovery. Some of the developers already are, Pete(BB), Koush, ChevyNo1, Birdman, P3, cvpcs(Sapphire), the guys behind Rubix, JRummy was talking recently about getting one and I am sure I missed a few. I would also like to see the UnRevoked team get their hands on a DX to work their bootloader magic.
New Roms on their way are FlyX 1.0 and Obsidian(cvpcs) said he only needs a week from delivery of his X for release which means it could be by next weekend.
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I'm in the same boat as the OP. I have the incredible for a few weeks now, a few days left in my 30 day window (like 4 haha). I like the device, but the battery life irks me (which is kind've silly since I'm not a heavy user and have had no issues making it through a day with the stock battery. still, I'd like a device that I can use without watching the percentage drop in a few minutes). My two brothers got the X, I went with the incredible as (mostly) I was impatient and liked the hackability it has. Having actually used the device, the ability to load custom roms is nice and all, but using a stock rom isn't really much of a difference for my use. Of concern to me is primarily dumping the Verizon trash but as long as the phone's rootable it's doable. I use Skyraider vanilla but I don't have any real reason that I couldn't use a stock rom.
I've spent many hours trying to come to a conclusion and I've not gotten anything conclusive from online posts and such, everyone seems to get caught up in the 'omg its sooooo big', followed quickly by their gripes with the 'blur-but-not-blur' implementation. I use LauncherPro anyways so much of Blur's issues are not a concern. My only reasonable complaint is the hardware buttons on the X's face vs the touch ones on the incredible, but this is minor imo.
I hate having to babysit my phone to get the best of the battery and the bump charging stuff rubs me the wrong way. I'm coming from an iphone 3g and the widget capabilities are so great, but to save battery on my incredible I have only one auto updating widget, despite desiring more. Separate concern is how Verizon would handle the return since I'm near to my 30 days and the X wouldn't ship for a handful of days, and returning the incredible before that time would render me without a phone. I'm probably going to call them tomorrow and see what they'll do. Perhaps I can get the phone and see how it fares in my normal usage patterns.
If anyone has any input I would much appreciate it as I need something to push me over the edge. Granted, this is the X forum so I doubt anyone will give the incredible much love.

Is the Samsung Fascinate a good choice?

I'm due for an upgrade on Nov. 18th, and wanted to know the goods and bads of this phone from my fellow XDA Community. Basically, I want to know:
1. Will the lagfix potentially fix any "lag" on the phone beforehand?
2. Is the GPS as bad as people say it is?
3. Is Screen Burn in a problem with the Super Amoled Screen?
4. Is the Camera and Camcorder any good?
I'm coming from a Droid Eris and want to get the best phone out there that can last me for a year.

Ok my personal opinion:
Camera is great!!!
Video Recording is great
Screen Is great!!!
GPS is quirky (might be fixed with 2.2 update)
Touchwiz is boring , slow etc
Great design!
But i got rid of mine, in hopes that the htc desire hd is being released this month on verizon! The new Sense UI is awesome .......my opinion others love stock android ui!

Just saw your coming from a HTC Eris..........then honestly if you like the Sense UI, dont get this!
Goodluck!

I came from an Eris too and I love this! (I got rid of the Sense UI on my Eris with a custom ROM) Personally I don't have any problem with lag even without a lagfix, my GPS works just fine, and call quality is great. It is a big improvement from the Eris, the battery life is definitely better, and I really have nothing bad to say about it. The only thing I miss is the LED notification but there are ways around that. The camera and camcorder work great - excellent picture quality, and no screen burn in that I have seen so far anyway.
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Wtf does HTC sense have to do with the Samsung phone. I never flame but that is dumb as hell to say. Touchwiz and sense are not even close. Besides. Put LP on there and forget it. People only slam it when its not their cup of tea. I have literally had every phone Verizon has release since the Droid 1 and I ****ing love my fascinate. The new HTC will likely be a ***** to root much like the others. And Verizon WILL NOT GET DESIRE HD. it will likely be the exact same phone but not called that. But in Sherwood's defense ill say that's one hella good looking phone. But I am gonna keep my fascinate til LTE and by the. That HTC will be shot BC it wont have LTE. if u want to be impressed read about how much better fascinate screen and CPU /GPU Are than any other phone. If u like to game the Samsung galaxy phones are the absolutely best made for that
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Untrue statement about Sense UI being better than Touchwiz. I have had the eris, incredible and now the facinate and touchwiz is just fine. Load ADW as your launcher and you will really dig this phone over the eris for sure.
IMO... GPS is not that big of an issue for me as there are some work arounds to get satellites to lock quicker and if I do get burn in on my screen I will have it replaced.With the 2.2 update just around the corner it should help make this a more solid phone. (Especially after the developers get a hold of it!) If your ok with the size of the incredible, there isn't a better phone made but it lacks a good car dock/mount and the best case ever made, "kickstand case". My incredible did have a little better cell signal also... Having said that, good luck. The facinate will be a huge upgrade from the eris. And as stated before, this is all (IMO) with experience with all three.
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Depending on your screen size preferences and the reviews you might want to take a look at the Samsung Continuum when it comes out - should be before your upgrade date. If you must have a notification when things happen then the ticker seems to be a great idea. We have yet to see how it affects battery life though.

1. Yes. Also depends on your level of annoyance to the lag.
2. No.
3. None evident at all, after a month and a half.
4. Yes. I have always loved the sammy panorama feature.
No regrets at all.
good day.

Coming from a moto droid this phone is great!
Camera and camcorder are great
gps is iffy at time but works prob get fixed
I like touchwiz and find it not laggy at all in fact its one of the only launchers that dont lag when used with lwp. I mean launcher pro does not lag alot but u can see it in the app drawer alittle touchwiz app drawer has zero lag.
I dont use lagfix (uninstalled) i see no need for it actually i think just running the stock deodexed rom makes for a super smooth experiance.

Problem is, I'm deciding between a Samsung Fascinate with AWESOME hardware (love that GPU) and a Droid X with 2. 2. It's hard!
Sent from Eris with Froyo

Go to a corporate store and play with both of them - I briefly considered the Droid X but when I tried it out in the store, it just seemed slow and somehow cumbersome and not just from the size - even stock the Fascinate was smoother to me.
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If you liked the ERIS......... stay with SENSE UI. Its hard to give it up. I regret it!!!
As far as Games , if you want a gaming phone WAIT TILL THERE ARE QUALITY GAMES. And not 1 year old IPHONE PORTS.
Wait a little longer trust me.
BTW I had the droid X the camera was complete garbage!!! And I prefer capacative buttons at the bottom and not tactile ones like the x.
But again stay with sense. You get alot of built in options stock instead of 3rd party addons to get same options. Like copy and paste, and scrollable widgets.
Goodluck!!

I'll just have to wait and see.

TheSonicEmerald said:
1. Will the lagfix potentially fix any "lag" on the phone beforehand?
2. Is the GPS as bad as people say it is?
3. Is Screen Burn in a problem with the Super Amoled Screen?
4. Is the Camera and Camcorder any good?
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1. I don't notice any lag for normal use. It only really lags on me when installing things from the Market, but I'm guessing this is a general issue with Android
2. GPS lock can take 10-20 sec, but isn't that bad. I've found that always leaving GPS on as opposed to turning it off/on as needed helps keep the lag from being as bad.
3. Haven't noticed any burn in on my phone
4. I haven't taken many pictures yet, but the one's I have taken have been good for a phone camera
I'd say go to a store and play with both devices. After using the capacitive buttons on the Fascinate for a couple weeks now, the physical buttons of the Droid X seemed annoying when I played around with one a few days ago. Also, if you're waiting until the 18th, FroYo should be out not long after that, and that is when I'd expect a lot of development to start up for ROMs and kernels, so the software should hopefully catch up to the great hardware in a couple months.

Droid X VS Fascinate
I just picked up the Fascinate a few days ago after returning the X. I had the X for three weeks. I agree with the poster that noted how BAD the X camera is. So far with the sammy I have not had any issues lag,GPS or otherwise. I had a Tmo Vibrant and loved it. My only complaint about the fascinate is the lack of 2.2. Other than that I think its the perfect size and weight. I currently carry and iPhone 4 and the Fascinate. I dont think I have taken the iPhone out of my laptop bag since I got the Samsung.

you should wait and see if the nexus two comes to vzw

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you should wait and see if the nexus two comes to vzw
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No, you shouldn't. Right now the Nexus Two is a mythical device that does not exist. Even if Google does decide to make one, it won't be out anytime soon, and there's a good chance it wouldn't be on Verizon first, if at all.
I came from an Eris myself, and had no problem dumping Sense UI. In fact, the last month I had it, I was running the KaosFroyo ROM, which is based on stock Froyo. Once I installed LauncherPro Plus, Dialer One, and a few other goodies, I realized that it was even better than when it ran Sense UI. If I were you, I would grab the Fascinate over the Droid X, because te hardware is superior, and Froyo will be out for it soon enough. Bing is a non-issue, since it can easily be removed by rooting, if you don't like it.
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Review/Warning

I just bought an Atrix, and I thought I would post a little review because in all my research before I bought the phone, I did not find one which said what I needed to hear. Hopefully this is useful and objective.
I have owned a OG Droid, Samsung Fascinate, Nexus S, Galaxy S, and this Atrix so I feel like I have good grounds for comparison.
Out of the box...
The Good: The phone's hardware is top notch. The specs are awesome.
The Bad: The Motorola Atrix in completly stock form (the one I bought anyways) is very buggy and laggy. When I first unboxed it and was doing my initial set up and installing a few apps, a number of different programs forced close. The whole experience was slow and frustrating. I would rate Moto Blur as simply horrible and disgusting.
The fact that Motorola was able to take a tegra 2 powered phone with 1GB of DDR2 ram and make it run choppy is beyond me.
With that being said... If you don't know how to or do not plan on rooting, or modifying the software on your phone, I would highly recommended you avoid the Atrix.
If you are a fan of tinkering and modifying, then the Atrix is a great choice.

I have only noticed lag for the first 15-30 seconds after power on. None after that...
Motoblur means nothing to me, and doesn't really seem to slow down my phone. I had lunch with a bunch of other android users, and they were all impressed by the atrix' snappiness...

One thing I remembered when I had the atrix was unlocking the phone and using it was extremely laggy and slow for the first few seconds. I confirmed this with 2 other store demos. If you swipe your finger or do the pattern unlock, try bringing down the notification bar immediately. It'll be slow and choppy but if you wait a couple seconds and then try again, it'll be fine. Always annoyed me at how LONG it took to unlock the phone and get it going compared to every other android phone I've owned.

I have had no issues with performance at all on my device. It's lightning quick. The most impressive for me wasn't the CPU speed, but the file access speed. That thing installs, uninstalls, and loads applications retarded fast. They made a good choice of hardware right there.

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I have had no issues with performance at all on my device. It's lightning quick. The most impressive for me wasn't the CPU speed, but the file access speed. That thing installs, uninstalls, and loads applications retarded fast. They made a good choice of hardware right there.
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DDR2 ram win.
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The only lag I've noticed is for a few seconds after the initial boot up, which is understandable. To say it is very laggy and buggy is crazy. Perhaps the unit you had was defective.
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Sounds like you may have a buggy device... Ive had three of them so far (one was replaced due to what I perceived to be a faulty battery and my wife also uses one). And I've not seen any of the lag you're talking about...
If it was a big enough occurance don't you think you would've read about it on these forums? This place is packed with android super users... no ones having problems like that ...
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If you are a fan of tinkering and modifying, then the Atrix is a great choice.
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the atrix is a horrible choice if you like to tinker and modify your phone...

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One thing I remembered when I had the atrix was unlocking the phone and using it was extremely laggy and slow for the first few seconds. I confirmed this with 2 other store demos. If you swipe your finger or do the pattern unlock, try bringing down the notification bar immediately. It'll be slow and choppy but if you wait a couple seconds and then try again, it'll be fine. Always annoyed me at how LONG it took to unlock the phone and get it going compared to every other android phone I've owned.
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.... the fingerprint scanner makes it real quick to unlock the phone.... and it's not easy enough to be accidentally pocket-unlocked like some other unlocking systems i've seen.... such as i think HTC's, where you just slide the one thing down. Hell, with the one pair of shorts i have, i was actually able to see the screen on my iPhone 4 when i had it, and unlock it THROUGH THE SHORTS if i wanted to.
And i think it'd be expected for things to be going a tad slow as soon as it's woken up. Look at computers. Whether it's booting... sleeping... hibernating.... if you expect to be able to do something without any form of lag the second either of those are recovered from, you'd be sorely mistaken.

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the atrix is a horrible choice if you like to tinker and modify your phone...
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Sounds like a great comment from a non-Atrix user? Maybe I'm wrong though?
The Atrix is fine for people who like to tinker. The only thing we can't do is overclock our processors and change ROMs every 3 seconds. Other than that I have free tethering, no ads, root, no bloatware, free webtop thanks to a hack and a pseudo-ROM/theme loaded. Yeah too bad I can't tinker with it. *eyes rolling*

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Sounds like a great comment from a non-Atrix user? Maybe I'm wrong though?
The Atrix is fine for people who like to tinker. The only thing we can't do is overclock our processors and change ROMs every 3 seconds. Other than that I have free tethering, no ads, root, no bloatware, free webtop thanks to a hack and a pseudo-ROM/theme loaded. Yeah too bad I can't tinker with it. *eyes rolling*
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NICE!!!!!! glad someone finally said something... I mean sure u can't load cyanogen but with the way things are going with these "pseudo" roms if cyanogen put some effort into making one of those for the atrix would that not be a sufficient fix??? Because lets face it doubt the BL will be unlocked soo instead of putting all that effort I to unlocking it how about taking g advantage of the capabilities that we do have.... ???? Just sayen

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NICE!!!!!! glad someone finally said something... I mean sure u can't load cyanogen but with the way things are going with these "pseudo" roms if cyanogen put some effort into making one of those for the atrix would that not be a sufficient fix??? Because lets face it doubt the BL will be unlocked soo instead of putting all that effort I to unlocking it how about taking g advantage of the capabilities that we do have.... ???? Just sayen
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Haha didn't really mean to come off as a jerk but I'm just sick of reading people's posts in the ATRIX forum hating on the phone. If it's not the phone for you so what go to the forum of the device you like!
I hope to also see some cool themes/pseudo-ROMs made available. At least we have Ken right now working his butt off on GingerBlur!

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Haha didn't really mean to come off as a jerk but I'm just sick of reading people's posts in the ATRIX forum hating on the phone. If it's not the phone for you so what go to the forum of the device you like!
I hope to also see some cool themes/pseudo-ROMs made available. At least we have Ken right now working his butt off on GingerBlur!
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yes he difinitley is i was following that thread for a bit but i saw that with the latest release i believe it was beta7 (at the time) webtop for th laptop dock was disabled and i have the LTD so that is a feature that i definitely need... do you know if its a RC yet???

Mustang302LX said:
Sounds like a great comment from a non-Atrix user? Maybe I'm wrong though?
The Atrix is fine for people who like to tinker. The only thing we can't do is overclock our processors and change ROMs every 3 seconds. Other than that I have free tethering, no ads, root, no bloatware, free webtop thanks to a hack and a pseudo-ROM/theme loaded. Yeah too bad I can't tinker with it. *eyes rolling*
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i have an atrix, i guess we just have different opinions on tinkering...i do like the change roms often and be able to upgrade to the newest android version without having to wait for the manufacture. theres so much more you can do when you open up the kernel, most of the bugs that people are having would be solved if the devs can get at the kernel. Why do you think developers are leaving the Atrix? there's only so much you can do with a locked bootloader. i never said i hated the phone(i wouldnt of bought it if i did) i just dont think it's a good phone for modding but hopefully that will change...

SpeeDemon said:
I have had no issues with performance at all on my device. It's lightning quick. The most impressive for me wasn't the CPU speed, but the file access speed. That thing installs, uninstalls, and loads applications retarded fast. They made a good choice of hardware right there.
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same with mine.. the ATT version of the Atrix must be loaded with crapware making the phone slow down. My Bell version flies right out of the box, even when using Motoblur!

SpeeDemon said:
I have had no issues with performance at all on my device. It's lightning quick. The most impressive for me wasn't the CPU speed, but the file access speed. That thing installs, uninstalls, and loads applications retarded fast. They made a good choice of hardware right there.
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+1 I agree, Atrix = speed I've rarely felt lags if any at all
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robwscott83 said:
yes he difinitley is i was following that thread for a bit but i saw that with the latest release i believe it was beta7 (at the time) webtop for th laptop dock was disabled and i have the LTD so that is a feature that i definitely need... do you know if its a RC yet???
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It's still in Beta at 7.2 now. However I believe the webtop that was removed in the previous version was the hack to make it work with just an HDMI cable so you don't need the dock to make it work. I am on 7.2 and I have the webtop hack installed and it works perfect on my TV through just the HDMI cable.

I am really enjoying the ATRIX. I was starting to get a little burnt out on installing new ROMS every couple days or weeks. This is however my first Android phone...coming from the WinMo forums...This phone is like night and day compared to my old Tilt 2.
People have such harsh and strong opinions on everything on forums. These 'reviews' should be read as objectively as possible.

starvinmrvn said:
I am really enjoying the ATRIX. I was starting to get a little burnt out on installing new ROMS every couple days or weeks. This is however my first Android phone...coming from the WinMo forums...This phone is like night and day compared to my old Tilt 2.
People have such harsh and strong opinions on everything on forums. These 'reviews' should be read as objectively as possible.
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Welcome Brother I'm in the same boat =P tilt 2 to atrix is an amazingly wonderful jump ~!

I came from a captivate where roms are readily available. I enjoyed flashing and it was awesome to see how a device can mature. But the kernel development is where things truly shine. But even after all the flashing I just felt like things didn't quite work right. I thought it was the fact that 99% of the roms were based off the international galaxy s.
I love my atrix. Everything works. The battery life is awesome. The phone really flies. Motoblur sucks but its been taken care of. As long as we get more roms ill be happy. Unlocked bootloader would be nice but I don't see it happening
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Ill be returning my Samsung Fascinate

- Gets laggy when you have a few things goin
- Gets even more laggy when you try a decent live wallpaper
- Battery last's about a hour.
- Battery takes about 4 to charge
And the worse thing:
- Phantom back-button pressing when ur on 3G.
I can literally drive down the road and watch the phone switch to 3G and have app/browser open. And within about 30 seconds the phone starts having a melt down. Cant keep anything open. Takes screen shots on lock/un
So anyway. Anyone have any opinions on the Droid X?
Im thinking of trading it for a droid x.

before you trade it, install aokp. basically all your problems will be gone. at least try it.
I have extensive experience with a droid x and it is no better. it has a lot less development and freedom with kernels and stuff.
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If you are having the problems to the extent you are saying, you either have a bad phone or dont know what the heck you are doing . Maybe you should return the phone .
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before you trade it, install aokp. basically all your problems will be gone. at least try it.
I have extensive experience with a droid x and it is no better. it has a lot less development and freedom with kernels and stuff.
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WOW you were not lien!
Drod X looks like stone age compared to the fascinate. And absoloutly NO way to root it unless you do about a 20 step linux process.
Jeez. Going to get my facsinate back.
Anyone else have the phantom button with there fascinate? i read it was caused by RF signals when using 3G
Anyone else have it?

No phantoms here - another vote for AOKP - get yourself Milestone 6. Stable and slick as hell.
The Devil kernel is really treating me right as well - you'll be AMAZED at how much better your phone operates and be snappy doing it. Not to say your Fascinate will all of a sudden sprout another core, but the difference is like crap and day. I think we are beyond fortunate to have such great dev support for what is arguably an "old" phone at this point.