2.2 Root Bounty - $20 - Please Sticky - Please Join - EVO 4G General

I am surprised this doesn't exist yet. I searched and didn't see one specifically for root. So I would like to ask that it be stickied.
I am pledging $10 for a post 2.2 working root. Anyone else want to add? I will keep track here and update the total.
Pledge List:
1. edufur.............. $10
2. mdassad........... $10
Total $20

I'll throw in $10.

Ever hear of a search http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=751051&highlight=bounty

063_XOBX said:
Ever hear of a search http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=751051&highlight=bounty
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That didn't come up in my search.. and IMO, that thread should be shut down since his bounty is one day past expriration. I am not expiring my offer. And I am keeping track of it.

Maybe you should look at what happened to the PRI upgrade bounty in the Development section. I agree with the OP of that thread - bounties should be banned from XDA.

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My humble opinion I would have to agree with silver. Bounties tend to cloud the focus of the overall objective and could lead to somewhat shady end results. In this case of froyo root believe me the devs have this as a top priority and bounties are not going to achieve a faster result. It would probably be best if one would donate to them now as it could lighten the load and burden now when it really counts.

This is counterproductive as much as you think your helping. Pretty soon nothing around here is ganna get done without a bounty, and the whole development thread is ganna be slowed to a halt with devs waiting for a bounty before they do any work. Plus Android isnt owned by anyone of us to claim a bounty for developing on, if you wanna make money through it, there are channels like through the market. Donations are for Churches/Charities so what you are basically doing is bribing people to do the work.

edufur said:
That didn't come up in my search.. and IMO, that thread should be shut down since his bounty is one day past expriration. I am not expiring my offer. And I am keeping track of it.
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That was only one of a few root bounty threads. I personally completely derailed one of them (I'm not proud of myself) trying to make the same points that others have made in this thread, but they were much more eloquent here than I was there. I know its hard to believe, but I was a total ass in that thread.
Sent from my blah blah blah blah

A sticky? Are you serious?

im in for 10 smackaroos

cardiox said:
My humble opinion I would have to agree with silver. Bounties tend to cloud the focus of the overall objective and could lead to somewhat shady end results. In this case of froyo root believe me the devs have this as a top priority and bounties are not going to achieve a faster result. It would probably be best if one would donate to them now as it could lighten the load and burden now when it really counts.
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How do you figure? The only dev Ive even heard comment on it stated that they hadnt worked on it at all because they were working on something else instead.

MadFlava said:
How do you figure? The only dev Ive even heard comment on it stated that they hadnt worked on it at all because they were working on something else instead.
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Ya and what was that? The PRI fix? The whole point of rooting is to achieve the best possible tweak of code that gives us the best possible Android experience overall. The only logical step forward is to root froyo. If nothing more it might contain the ingredients for us to eventually root Gingerbread when we get it. Believe me rooting froyo is a top priority.

MadFlava said:
How do you figure? The only dev Ive even heard comment on it stated that they hadnt worked on it at all because they were working on something else instead.
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The unrevoked twitter feed hinted they were working on it this morning.
"You can expect another face on the wall of phones soon. 2.2 folks: stuff is coming
down the pipeline. Inc folks: use Forever before the OTA!"
http //twitter com/unrevoked/status/21474389447

If you want the unRevoked team to work on this and you want to help them out, then go to their site and donate to the EFF. If you really want to show your support, then donate NOW, not after they then find the hack. Anyone can donate AFTER but only those truly serious will show their support now. So go to their page and show you are serious and show your support.

MadFlava said:
How do you figure? The only dev Ive even heard comment on it stated that they hadnt worked on it at all because they were working on something else instead.
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Exactly. Unrevoked is the only one I've seen even hint towards it. I think, most of the hardcore devs got their device when it came out and have had root since 2.1, aren't willing to loose root and therefor development time for other projects, and probably don't want to spend a few hundred bucks to buy a cold unit out of contract to test with.
My suggestion: all you bounty guys chip in your milk money together, start buying devices and giving them as gifts of gratitude towards your favorite devs. Devs do this for fun on their own time and surely wouldn't mind having their name on the end-all-be-all-2.2-exploit, but probably don't want it bad enough to go blow a few hundred bucks on. My $0.02 anyway...

cardiox said:
Ya and what was that? The PRI fix? The whole point of rooting is to achieve the best possible tweak of code that gives us the best possible Android experience overall. The only logical step forward is to root froyo. If nothing more it might contain the ingredients for us to eventually root Gingerbread when we get it. Believe me rooting froyo is a top priority.
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No... it wasnt the PRI fix and thanks for confirming what I said. The 2.2 root has not been being worked on, at least according to the only devs that have spoken up. They dont consider it important, their words, not mine.

MadFlava said:
The 2.2 root has not been being worked on, at least according to the only devs that have spoken up. They dont consider it important, their words, not mine.
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Well duh. You are talking to the wrong group. You need to talk to the hackers.

MadFlava said:
No... it wasnt the PRI fix and thanks for confirming what I said. The 2.2 root has not been being worked on, at least according to the only devs that have spoken up. They dont consider it important, their words, not mine.
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The whole challenge for a hacker is too hack something that has not been hacked. Pardon me but the last I heard 2.1 was hacked and now the PRI is fixed. Ya I confirmed that much...your welcome. Hackers don't go around babbling about what they are doing until they achieve it then make their mark.

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Fixed path issue in free version
Version 1.3
Increased patching speed 10x
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One click market fix for root roms based on Eris leaks.
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A donate and free versions are available.
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Patch possibly coming today, if I feel like it.
Rom cooks, give shoot me a pm, on here or irc or email me at . So we can enable the full 2.1 Version market on the Eris roms.
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Thank you for continuing to give us goodies on our phone. Cant wait for this, if you decide to release it.
if you make that patch i think i might cum
jcase said:
Patch possibly coming today, if I feel like it.
Rom cooks, give shoot me a pm, on here or irc or email me So we can enable the full 2.1 Version market on the Eris roms.
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jcase you are the man
Would definitely be interested in a market fix. Thanks.
what is the "market fix" for?
tia
joey3002 said:
what is the "market fix" for?
tia
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Enables the full 2.1 Verizon market place. I have it working, if done by hand. I can't pull it off over an update.zip and when ppl run my app written in c, its a 50/50 shot at working. I am waiting on someone to help me port to java as an apk.
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Enables the full 2.1 Verizon market place. I have it working, if done by hand. I can't pull it off over an update.zip and when ppl run my app written in c, its a 50/50 shot at working. I am waiting on someone to help me port to java as an apk.
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Can you write a tutorial for people to do it by hand?
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Can you write a tutorial for people to do it by hand?
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No, I don't want complaints from people messing up.
Re: 2.1 Market Fix - help needed
Thanks for your continued Eris help jcase.
Understand about keeping the info locked down. It is guaranteed the whiners would come out.
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No, I don't want complaints from people messing up.
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Understandable...
I wouldn't want that either.
If you change your mind i would love a tutorial to do it by hand.
If its not too much trouble, could you PM me a quick tutorial if you get the chance?
Thanks.
Re: 2.1 Market Fix - help needed
3 cheers for j case...you keep delivering the goods
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Why do I want the 2.1 Market Fix?
Evening,
What benefits do I gain from getting the 2.1 marketplace fix?
New apps? Better Apps? MORE APPS?!?!!!
I feel as though I should be in eager anticipation of it but I've no clue why?
Post it in the right spot, and I will answer.
From my understanding, The market fix is for users OUT of the USA. It enables them to see all the apps, instead of a limited amount.
Isn't it nice to just get an answer to your question
I guess some people dont mind being on their high horses. Like seriously, its a forum. Get over it.
Next time, just try and post in the right section. Then people wont be so snarky towards you.
jcase said:
Post it in the right spot, and I will answer.
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Why do you have a holier than thou attitude? I understand you've been mistreated on these forums but you don't need to mistreat those who have done nothing wrong. You do a lot of great work and most people appreciate it even if they can't express it well, this has nothing to do with your dev work, which is excellent. You just come off looking like an asshole when you post things like that. You could have easily answered his question but chose to be condescending. It only makes the situation worse. You can yell at people for not searching or not posting in the right spot all you want but you need to realize that a lot of the people who come here are visiting for the first time and haven't seen all of your complaints of mistakes that almost every newbie makes. Sorry if I offended you somehow, just my views.
-tim
jcase is a dev god, he does what he wants.
LexusBrian400 said:
From my understanding, The market fix is for users OUT of the USA. It enables them to see all the apps, instead of a limited amount.
Isn't it nice to just get an answer to your question
I guess some people dont mind being on their high horses. Like seriously, its a forum. Get over it.
Next time, just try and post in the right section. Then people wont be so snarky towards you.
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A) Wrong market patch is a project I have been working on, has nothing to do with being outside the US. Isn't it nice getting an incorrect answer. It enables a full market on these custom roms, allows you to switch between device specific markets, and maybe some surprises.
B) Forum is flooded, and if people read the rules they would know where to post stuff.
Isn't nice getting the wrong answer from someone who doesn't know what they are speaking of?
WalkingTaco said:
Why do you have a holier than thou attitude? I understand you've been mistreated on these forums but you don't need to mistreat those who have done nothing wrong. You do a lot of great work and most people appreciate it even if they can't express it well, this has nothing to do with your dev work, which is excellent. You just come off looking like an asshole when you post things like that. You could have easily answered his question but chose to be condescending. It only makes the situation worse. You can yell at people for not searching or not posting in the right spot all you want but you need to realize that a lot of the people who come here are visiting for the first time and haven't seen all of your complaints of mistakes that almost every newbie makes. Sorry if I offended you somehow, just my views.
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Tim,
If people took time to read the rules, this wouldn't happen. Your 100% right, I am an asshole. No offense taken.
jcase
Erisftw said:
jcase is a dev god, he does what he wants.
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I know jack #@[email protected], I am just shifting my way through all this.

To everyone here

I am sad to see everyone fighting over donation ROM which is only worth a few hours of a Modders time.
I and others developers do real work like Permanent Recovery and kernels, I and other developers took hours of soft bricking the device. People copy my update.zip formatting and use it for their ROM. if i wasn't here, you wouldn't have permanent recovery and CyanogenMod and one click and etc.
To the mods, you did the right thing here
Thank you? I honestly don't know how to respond in a way that isn't ridiculously sarcastic and mean, so I will leave it at that.
Me either. Lol.
How's cyanogenmod going?????
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I love roms but i cant stand the premise on donate ware, it seems many devs do it without even knowing their breaching T&C. I think some type of guide book needs to be set in place so whoever cooks a rom up knows what to and to not include in their posts, sigs, and threads to keep everything going smoothly. Im not against people who give their supporters beta releases but keep it off xda and keep it between you and your beta group. There are many talented devs out there that go about things all wrong(purposely and accidental) and kinda gives other devs a bad wrap for things they may not be involved in.
muyoso said:
Thank you? I honestly don't know how to respond in a way that isn't ridiculously sarcastic and mean, so I will leave it at that.
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Why be sarcastic and mean? Noobnl has done so much for the community and he only started his view on the matter of roms. That is only because some members are attacking noobnl due to a mod closing threads. But think carefully what made roms capable of flashing to begin with on the epic.
noobnl said:
I am sad to see everyone fighting over donation ROM which is only worth a few hours of a Modders time.
I and others developers do real work like Permanent Recovery and kernels, I and other developers took hours of soft bricking the device. People copy my update.zip formatting and use it for their ROM. if i wasn't here, you wouldn't have permanent recovery and CyanogenMod and one click and etc.
To the mods, you did the right thing here
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Yes, well your attitude stinks. You are talented but not holier than thou.
Get off your high horse and let it die.
noobnl said:
I am sad to see everyone fighting over donation ROM which is only worth a few hours of a Modders time.
I and others developers do real work like Permanent Recovery and kernels, I and other developers took hours of soft bricking the device. People copy my update.zip formatting and use it for their ROM. if i wasn't here, you wouldn't have permanent recovery and CyanogenMod and one click and etc.
To the mods, you did the right thing here
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I concur, these donatewares people need to get a real job/career and stop preying on the "flash-heads" who'd do anything to get a rom flashing fix.
lv2bll said:
I love roms but i cant stand the premise on donate ware, it seems many devs do it without even knowing their breaching T&C. I think some type of guide book needs to be set in place so whoever cooks a rom up knows what to and to not include in their posts, sigs, and threads to keep everything going smoothly. Im not against people who give their supporters beta releases but keep it off xda and keep it between you and your beta group. There are many talented devs out there that go about things all wrong(purposely and accidental) and kinda gives other devs a bad wrap for things they may not be involved in.
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If people read the rules, which they are required to be aware of and in compliance of, it is clearly stated in Rule 8.
Here's my two cents on this whole thing if anyone cares.
ROM building is basically pushing and pulling APKs and running BAT files other members have already put together. I will be the first to admit that the stupid ROM I've posted really doesn't contain anything new. It's just the same files in a different order with some added, compressed or removed. When I do this stuff, obviously, I'm not coding anything. I'm barely proficient with Linux and would consider myself a novice at when it comes to programming in any language. (I can write you a 'Hello World' program in just about any language you want though.)
99% of the members here, if they had the time and desire to, could make a ROM.
As far as donations go, I can see how it would be tempting to ask for them. After all, even if ROM building is EASY, it does take time. However, I can definitely understand where XDA is coming from. Someone has to pay for this domain and the hosting. With the insane amount of traffic this place gets it can't be cheap. How would you feel if you fascilitated this place and had people setting up shop? If anything I feel like I owe XDA and if ****ty technical support jobs paid more I would have already donated.
I've learned a long time ago that being mad/upset about anything in any part of your life or even disliking people really doesn't get you anywhere. That kind of stuff just poisons your mind and overall wellbeing. So can't we just move on guys?
That's all.
Also I want to thank noob for working with Team Douche on CM for our phones. If you guys haven't had an opportunity to use it on another Android device, trust me it is well worth waiting for. No more waiting on Sammy to push updates.
volkly said:
Why be sarcastic and mean? Noobnl has done so much for the community and he only started his view on the matter of roms. That is only because some members are attacking noobnl due to a mod closing threads. But think carefully what made roms capable of flashing to begin with on the epic.
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Because frankly I don't care how talented you are or how much you have contributed to the community, putting other developers down and calling them "cowards" as he did in the other thread, and then creating a new post full of the most self congratulatory arrogant nonsense I have ever read explaining how the dev scene ain't Sh&t without you, requires nothing but a mean and sarcastic reply.
Edit: No one is questioning that the work he is doing is awesome and that he is talented and at the core of development for the epic right now, but from the last few posts I have read of his, the same cannot be said of his attitude.
Are you going to show some of that epic cm greatness to douchecast tonight
NotATreoFan said:
If people read the rules, which they are required to be aware of and in compliance of, it is clearly stated in Rule 8.
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Where in the rules does it say you can be suspended or banned for expressing your opinion regarding the actions of moderators?
bobdude5 said:
Are you going to show some of that epic cm greatness to douchecast tonight
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yup going to compile a new cm6
noobnl said:
yup going to compile a new cm6
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Sweet deal hopefully those pesky random bootloops are gone in the new one good luck man!
I love that channel ...everybody gave up modding and played angry birds when you left ahah
are u going to incorporate the source code that was released?
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yup going to compile a new cm6
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You saying that all these roms on here are yours but kanged?I feel if someone added or removed few things from a rom than he should definitely put KANGED in rom's title and give credit to original coder/creator.
lviv73 said:
You saying that all these roms on here are yours but kanged?I feel if someone added or removed few things from a rom than he should definitely put KANGED in rom's title and give credit to original coder/creator.
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He's saying he doesn't appreciate people taking credit for his modified Linux kernel and other modifications to bootloaders by asking for "donations," that's all. Take a look at noobnl's Github repo. It is linked to the CyanogenMod source repo, the samsung sources, and other sources upstream. Credit is given and all licenses are followed properly. His releases all have their source published. He doesn't withhold releases under the guise of getting people to donate (pay) for beta testing (early access to software). He has every right to be perturbed at others using a thinly-veiled excuse to basically extort money from people in order to get something derived from his own work earlier than everyone else.
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He's saying he doesn't appreciate people taking credit for his modified Linux kernel and other modifications to bootloaders by asking for "donations," that's all. Take a look at noobnl's Github repo. It is linked to the CyanogenMod source repo, the samsung sources, and other sources upstream. Credit is given and all licenses are followed properly. His releases all have their source published. He doesn't withhold releases under the guise of getting people to donate (pay) for beta testing (early access to software). He has every right to be perturbed at others using a thinly-veiled excuse to basically extort money from people in order to get something derived from his own work earlier than everyone else.
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Yeah thats not right,i owned 3 android phones and never have I seen this type of **** we have on epic forum.
Noobnl, cm6 is coming out tonight?! Answer me please! Been waiting for this.
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Booting from phone (attn1 plz!)

What's it going to take in order for us to be able to boot from phone's SD card via USB? I want to port over my "system recovery" usb flash drive to my phone's SD card for even more emergency practicality.
When trying to boot from USB while phone is connected to PC, it loses the connection. A Tmobile G1 can do it, why can't we?
attn1, I need your help!
Thanks!
I will categorically ignore new threads like this for ridiculous (or otherwise) feature requests in the development forum. Read the rules and research your topic before posting, folks.
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attn1 said:
After this, I will categorically ignore new threads like this for ridiculous (or otherwise) feature requests in the development forum. Read the rules and research your topic before posting, folks.
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It wasn't a request for you to do the work, re-read it and comprehend.
I actually thought we could work on it and bring it to the device together since this is all open-source, right?
And lastly, it's not a rediculous request, it's quite useful. More useful than some of the **** that's in CM6 that doesn't need to be in there IMO. Oh wait, did I hurt your feelings? Maybe you should be pointing the "gun" at yourself...
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Reposted and directed to attn1
kaschenberg said:
It wasn't a request for you to do the work, re-read it and comprehend.
I actually thought we could work on it and bring it to the device together since this is all open-source, right?
And lastly, it's not a rediculous request, it's quite useful. More useful than some of the **** that's in CM6 that doesn't need to be in there IMO. Oh wait, did I hurt your feelings? Maybe you should be pointing the "gun" at yourself...
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lol really? Are u seriously doing this? For most of us that is a useless stupid feature request. Especially when you can just buy a flash drive. Or Buy a microsd reader and make the card bootable. Take out the card and put it in the reader and boot from it. But youd be better off taking attn1s advice with a response like that.
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lol really? Are u seriously doing this? For most of us that is a useless stupid feature request. Especially when you can just buy a flash drive. Or Buy a microsd reader and make the card bootable. Take out the card and put it in the reader and boot from it. But youd be better off taking attn1s advice with a response like that.
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Hmm, for most of us some of things in CM6 are useless and stupid as well! So, it's a two-way road man, some of us would like it, some of us don't. In the end, it's up to person with the know-how to decide everyone's fate pretty much no matter what you like or dislike.
Example:
Original Aria ROM contained FM Radio, now it's gone with CM6. Some people within this section asked about it. Are you ever going to see it again? Nope! attn1, do your duty and PM all those people to kill themselves please!
It doesn't matter to attn1 if 99% of people want something, if he thinks it's stupid he'll go tell you to kill yourself.
How can you have any respect for someone who says that - I don't! So **** him.
Some features of our phone HTC only has the knowledge on how to implement the stuff like FM. We don't have the code for their fm app so we can't implement it into cm6. As for CM6 as a whole attn1 got it up and running on our phone. The project itself isn't attn1. He is just a device maintainer. He does not add anything to cm6 itself except support for the aria. If you have a problem with cm6 as a whole take it up with cyanogen not attn1. And as for attn1 post he is just getting sick of people complaining about the same stuff over and over when if you read the faq you will realize what can and cannot work. A bug report is one thing but a bug report on something we already know about and documented can drive someone crazy. Try reading through a thread to find legit bugs through others bickering or just plain nonsense. So please drop the subject.
Sorry but this does not apply in this case.
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Sorry but this does not apply in this case.
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Then exactly what does apply. If you are so worried about it you rewrite the way the phone handles the sdcard. It's not something software can just magically change.
I dont get it. I can plug in my phone (running cm6) and see the sd card in windows, that is what you mean right? Btw, stop pissing off attn1. The guy has done more for aria owners than anyone else for nothing. Pissing off the people that actually help here is a great way to piss off the rest of us who use his roms and actually need help with things. Take the card out and copy if you cant see it via usb, which I don't know why you can't maybe check your drivers.
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mcsinny99 said:
I dont get it. I can plug in my phone (running cm6) and see the sd card in windows, that is what you mean right? Btw, stop pissing off attn1. The guy has done more for aria owners than anyone else for nothing. Pissing off the people that actually help here is a great way to piss off the rest of us who use his roms and actually need help with things. Take the card out and copy if you cant see it via usb, which I don't know why you can't maybe check your drivers.
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Its a feature of the G1 only. As of right now atleast.
Guys I'm mostly pissed about the way he replied. It was extremely unprofessional and uncalled for on the forum. I'm giving grief because of it. Ill stop stepping down to his level now.
kaschenberg said:
Its a feature of the G1 only. As of right now atleast.
Guys I'm mostly pissed about the way he replied. It was extremely unprofessional and uncalled for on the forum. I'm giving grief because of it. Ill stop stepping down to his level now.
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nobody cares why you're pissed. just start posting in the right section..you used to know how, what happened? -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=809552
kaschenberg said:
Its a feature of the G1 only. As of right now atleast.
Guys I'm mostly pissed about the way he replied. It was extremely unprofessional and uncalled for on the forum. I'm giving grief because of it. Ill stop stepping down to his level now.
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What's the difference in this thread and this one http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=809552 which coincidently you started last month?
Don't feed the troll...
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Mods, please close this thread. It's not getting anywhere obviously.

Ever wonder if devs withhold stuff from the community?

This guy has been coming into the Fascinate channel for the last two days rubbing our face in it. While we aren't pleased, I can only imagine what the Epic folks must be thinking.
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If someone doesn't want to leak something, cool, but don't brag about it and make others feel bad that they can't have it, imo.
Meh. The "whining about noobnl bragging about Froyo" thread is ========> this way.
This is Development, not General! </backseatmod>
Yeah yeah, he has froyo.. woop'd ****in do. We will all have it soon. Hopefully one of the devs who does have it, actually makes some progress in getting a root for it when release comes, otherwise stop being such a fricken baby about the ****. It is, what it is. The more we talk about it, the more they get their head blown up like a balloon thinking they are the froyo beta developer cool kids.
Just let it go.
Guys, Idgaf that he has it. This is just not what I consider to be behavior that fuels a community, but instead hinders it. I wouldn't have posted, had I known about the other thread prior.
adrynalyne said:
Guys, Idgaf that he has it. This is just not what I consider to be behavior that fuels a community, but instead hinders it. I wouldn't have posted, had I known about the other thread prior.
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Aye, bragging doesn't do anything. But what can ye do?
The leaked "Rom" is nowhere near ready for prime time so noob decided not to publicly release it so a bunch of people don't complain it broke their phones, so stfu already he did you guys a favor
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The leaked "Rom" is nowhere near ready for prime time so noob decided not to publicly release it so a bunch of people don't complain it broke their phones, so stfu already he did you guys a favor
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lol n00b
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n00b
For the leg humpers out there, the point is that it is not considered acceptable behavior to rub it into other people's faces.
Thats got nothing to do with bugs, or him doing anyone a favor.
Kind of reminds me of my kid with a new toy. Of course he wants you to see it, but he isn't gonna let you play with it for a while. If he acts that way, then of course he is burying himself in the long run. There will be plenty of developers for 2.2 when it gets here that are gonna do great things and that maybe he can't keep up with alone. Everyone wants their 15 min of fame.
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The leaked "Rom" is nowhere near ready for prime time
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I think Devs have one hand down their pants when they say stuff like this. Getting off on people giving them power.
Notice noobnl had to tweet to all the major android new sites with a screenshot. Sure he's holding it back for our good, but might as well get his name out there in the meantime right?
I've been through this with damage's shenanigans on the hero with 2.1. Its the same tired excuses.
Fact is the more eyes we have looking at the code, the more quickly it'll get to working status. It's about a community working together.
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I think Devs have one hand down their pants when they say stuff like this. Getting off on people giving them power.
Notice noobnl had to tweet to all the major android new sites with a screenshot. Sure he's holding it back for our good, but might as well get his name out there in the meantime right?
I've been through this with damage's shenanigans on the hero with 2.1. Its the same tired excuses.
Fact is the more eyes we have looking at the code, the more quickly it'll get to working status. It's about a community working together.
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You are right about noobnl, absolutely, but wrong about the rom. Why would we even want a beta rom that can somehow be shoehorned on our device that is SEMI working when the real official release is happening within weeks? Sure he is doing it for attention and making a big show of having the rom and not releasing it, he did the same gloating nonsense when that Epic Experience thread was pulled and he posted about how the development scene wouldn't be **** without him.
But again, its senseless to release a semi functional rom. The person who leaked it to noobnl even said it was kinda buggy. We will get the legit one soon enough. Its good at least at this point that talented people like noobnl have access to it so they can make sure there is a root available for it on release day.
Let's clear some things up.
First: I have no comments to make about noobnl's behaviour regarding his having a copy of the froyo leak. I don't feel like throwing more kindle on the flames.
Second: Several devs have copies of the same froyo leak. Who they are is unimportant, but it's out there.
Third: Yes, the ROM is incredibly buggy. The modem crashes constantly, market downloads are intermittent (as well as missing protected apps). And even though it has JIT, things are laggy (most noticeable when scrolling the app drawer). As a kernel dev, I can't tell you the amount of frustration I have, because I can't do anything until source code drops.
Lastly, and most importantly: There are hints all over the rom about where it came from, some evidence is not removable (references to developers in the initramfs, we don't have source to rebuild the kernel, modifying the initramfs would result in a brick). I think I speak for most of us when I say:
Their jobs are more important than your instant gratification.
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yea, like take tehdarkknight for instance hes been bragging about having phoenix kernel version 1.74 up and running for a week now, which includes JIT and has linpack of 90.00
shabbypenguin said:
yea, like take tehdarkknight for instance hes been bragging about having phoenix kernel version 1.74 up and running for a week now, which includes JIT and has linpack of 90.00
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i for one wont donate to noob since i dont use his stuff so as long as noone else does everything is good
plus theres always a way to get donations back
cool take your ball and go home, let me know how kylecole is doing....
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i for one wont donate to noob since i dont use his stuff so as long as noone else does everything is good
plus theres always a way to get donations back
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Lol, you dont use his stuff? Really? Are you rooted?
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Lol, you dont use his stuff? Really? Are you rooted?
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indeed and dont start bending over ur fav dev ur opinion doesnt matter im just stating my opinion which also doesnt matter
Im all against devs hoggin **** for themselves, but the guy does deserve credit for what he has done for the Epic.
If they are or arent doing it, is up to them and they are the only ones who know, just be patient and **** will get done.
Its the Hero all over again...
Im getting sick of seeing this bs.. Most of you people who are complaining isnt doing a damn thing to contribute to this community.. Be glad you have a nice phone.. And all this bashing noob noob needs to stop.. for all this **** he has done for you ungreatful bastards.. I would understand if he dint release ****..

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Do you think Samsung FINALLY HEARD OUR VOICES and bent under the cloud of losing market share (what I think) or what. Thank you either way,
Please feel free to express your thoughts here about the recent release of the source code and SamgsungJohn---
Thanks to XDA for providing a conduit to samsung , and thanks to the staff for helping all of us in the forum address the poor treatment we received from Samsung.
Thanks to SamsungJohn (albeit way late) reaching out to us, and at least acknowledging the superior development here is not a threat but an asset.
Thanks to all the people here pulling together to pressure a Big Corporation to respond to our calls to release the open source code (as required by the open source licensing agreement)
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The thing is, how can a major company like Samsung, take so many missteps?? Things like this is what they should have done in the beginning. They're slowing correcting their mistakes, but it certainly wont be forgotten. (I never had a Behold 2 so I do not know of that fiasco)
behold2 wasnt really a fiasco unless you were an impulse buyer.
if you did your homework before making a purchase you never would have bought one..
Was source released because of SamsungJohn? I missed that part.
I didn't think SamsungJohn actually did anything and then he just went away when we asked him questions.
It was also my understanding that source was released because they were obligated to - not because they wanted to show us some love.
Is there some information somewhere I'm missing?
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Was source released because of SamsungJohn? I missed that part.
I didn't think SamsungJohn actually did anything and then he just went away when we asked him questions.
It was also my understanding that source was released because they were obligated to - not because they wanted to show us some love.
Is there some information somewhere I'm missing?
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check his twitter feed, all your questions will be answered.
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check his twitter feed, all your questions will be answered.
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ah, ok. I don't Twitter so didn't see any of that.
What about us that don't subscribe to.twitter? Could you fill us in?
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I honestly give NO credit to @samsungjohn.... he came to XDA made some threads and asked for feedback (multiple times), but what has he really done? Nothing.... He tweeted about source being released, but so did a LOT of people on my timeline.
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I honestly give NO credit to @samsungjohn.... he came to XDA made some threads and asked for feedback (multiple times), but what has he really done? Nothing.... He tweeted about source being released, but so did a LOT of people on my timeline.
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I agree that I don't think this was SamsungJohn's doing. However we need to give the guy some slack. He may not have approached things in the best way. But he is still learning and hopefully will come up with a good way to be the liaison between community and Samsung.
samsungjohn is the face of samsung trying to make up for what everyone has been *****ing about for so long.
why are all of you ****ting on him?
i doubt it was one man that said "ok lol give them source kekeke" but he's the one that is trying to mend all the wounds with the SGS device owners that post on XDA. i can only assume the first attempt went wrong as the thread is deleted now.
i would imagine it looked smiliar to the SGS/Tmobile facebook fan pages where anytime anything is posted, it ends up with 5000 people saying "**** you samsung/tmobile where is my froyo" by a bunch of idiots that wouldnt know the difference between 2.2 and 1.6, other than the number is 0.6 higher.
a lot of you guys are being ****ing crybabies now, even though the devs now have what they need to get 2.2 100% stable.
not to mention the fact we have a voice now that could get GB on our phones faster than ever.
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be thankful that we are getting what everyone is asking for and be thankful we have bad ass devs like team whiskey and supercurio backing us up.
^ dude, nobody is giving him a hard time (or "****ting on him"), just pointing out he hasnt DONE anything, yet... not saying he won't, but what has he done? Asked for suggestions and tweets that he is working on something.... okay....
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^ dude, nobody is giving him a hard time ..., just pointing out he hasnt DONE anything, yet... not saying he won't, but what has he done? Asked for suggestions and tweets that he is working on something.... okay....
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True and agree. Was just saying that he hasn't been officially here on Samsung's behalf for very long.
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behold2 wasnt really a fiasco unless you were an impulse buyer.
if you did your homework before making a purchase you never would have bought one..
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Not totaly true at all. The forums had a lot of promise but samsung didn't deliever on promises. I checked that forum before I bought mine. There was a dev that did amazing work so I bought one. When he gave up so did I.
He was known as BHMan aka eugene373
Did you guys notice on his twitter feed that he is a Social Media Analyst (aka, how many people are pissed at us counter) /Developer (what has he developed?)...
How can you work in social media and not know how to Direct Message?? Did you guys see the tweets with @Supercurio.... John had completely forgotten all of the really useful information @supercurio had sent him, and has shown nothing he has developed.... he didn't even know how to DM??? REALLY???
Sorry, but if you are on the @SamsungJohn train, you WILL be sadly let down. He is just trying to help with the rage we threw at Samsung. All they had to do was release Froyo/Source in a reasonable time and NONE of this would have been an issue.
It's funny to me that you guys expect something to come from this guy, who just appeared, and has done absolutely nothing to date.
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Not totaly true at all. The forums had a lot of promise but samsung didn't deliever on promises. I checked that forum before I bought mine. There was a dev that did amazing work so I bought one. When he gave up so did I.
He was known as BHMan aka eugene373
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the phone wasnt significantly better than the g1 and came out like a year after. based on that alone i would not have bought one..
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Did you guys notice on his twitter feed that he is a Social Media/Developer... yet he didnt know how to Message @Supercurio.... had completely forgotten all of the really useful information @supercurio had sent him, and has shown nothing he has developed....
Sorry, but if you are on the @SamsungJohn train, you are going to be sadly let down. He is just trying to help with the rage we threw at Samsung. All they had to do was release Froyo/Source in a reasonable time and NONE of this would have been an issue.
It's just funny to me that you guys expect something to come from this guy, who just appeared, and has done absolutely nothing to date.
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fine, be negative, lol, whatever you want.
^^ Right, but the point is, a lot of people did buy the phone..... and they got F'd by Samsung who did nothing to support that phone.
I'm not being negative when I say not to expect anything from this John guy. Source was released, that's all we needed. I'm all for having a Samsung person who is really going to help.... I just don't see this going anywhere right now. I would LOVE to be wrong. I also hope future updates/source are taken more seriously by Samsung. Too good of hardware to lose customers due to support.
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^ dude, nobody is giving him a hard time (or "****ting on him"), just pointing out he hasnt DONE anything, yet... not saying he won't, but what has he done? Asked for suggestions and tweets that he is working on something.... okay....
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I agree but that said, In the public foray It good to be polite and cordial...... even though my "inner child wants vengeance" I can play nice.......
My Real problem is all the other phone makers and carrier do not treat you really any better........ In my business if I treated people the way Samsung treated us..... I'd be homeless.......... that is reality...... too bad they have different rules to play by and we just get to be the ping-pong ball
Isn't Samsung obligated to release the source code to their enhancements under the GPL?
I understand why they might be averse to doing that... but if they have a problem with it then they should switch to different OS for their devices.
I guess I have problems congratulating a company on doing what they are supposed to do.
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Isn't Samsung obligated to release the source code to their enhancements under the GPL?
I understand why they might be averse to doing that... but if they have a problem with it then they should switch to different OS for their devices.
I guess I have problems congratulating a company on doing what they are supposed to do.
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I agree 100% but in business you learn to thank people for what they were supposed to do like it was something special.......... unfortunately that is the way it is............sucks but true

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