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Is there just a bug-free non cyanogen ASOP rom out right now, i am not feeling adventurous.
what im thinking is like a vanilla Ivans. I'm guessing there isn't one?
Framework's Senseless ROM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=686870
Marisa said:
Framework's Senseless ROM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=686870
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It buggy and I think there were things that dont work. Framework has never updated it, so I wouldn't expect any updates to what doesn't work.
I suggest giving cyanogen elb a try, it is the most complete aosp rom we have right now.
Kaosfroyo would be a good choice in the near future for you. In the next rev of kaosfroyo, he will prolly have more of the devices working. Right now all the things like wifi, bluetooth, camera and such arnt working yet.
ramseyja said:
It buggy and I think there were things that dont work. Framework has never updated it, so I wouldn't expect any updates to what doesn't work.
I suggest giving cyanogen elb a try, it is the most complete aosp rom we have right now.
Kaosfroyo would be a good choice in the near future for you. In the next rev of kaosfroyo, he will prolly have more of the devices working. Right now all the things like wifi, bluetooth, camera and such arnt working yet.
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Yeah, I have tried ELB, I like it, but it is still choppy and not smooth as i would like. yeah, I am waiting for the next rev of kaosfroyo, but i need something to hold me over, i guess i will stay with senseable.
Fresh (should be out very soon) supposedly has an aosp version.
I think the choppiness you describe is inherent with ADWLauncher that is included with CELB. I removed it and went to Launcher Pro. It can be choppy, but the latest update includes memory management that allows you to allocate how much memory the launcher uses. I also disable "wallpaper scroll" and it really brings it a lot closer to a Sense like experience. You could also add the original Android launcher or Launcher2.
Just some thoughts. It is the closest you are going to get to AOSP right now. I'm also waiting for KaosFroyo to get more stable.
zandroid said:
I think the choppiness you describe is inherent with ADWLauncher that is included with CELB. I removed it and went to Launcher Pro. It can be choppy, but the latest update includes memory management that allows you to allocate how much memory the launcher uses. I also disable "wallpaper scroll" and it really brings it a lot closer to a Sense like experience. You could also add the original Android launcher or Launcher2.
Just some thoughts. It is the closest you are going to get to AOSP right now. I'm also waiting for KaosFroyo to get more stable.
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I can vouch for this too, ADW on CELB was choppy for me as well. Simply installing LauncherPro fixed that. Other than that CELB has been pretty damn good to me as far as stability goes.
Senseless is good, as far as pure vanilla non Cyanogen roms go, it just hasn't been update in a while. That isn't a bad thing, there really isn't anything that it needs changed.
Hungry Man said:
Fresh (should be out very soon) supposedly has an aosp version.
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the devs won't be releasing it here on xda. All the whiny *****y people in their thread pissed them off. They were *****ing bc the dev delayed the promised update bc his truck broke down. Its just a phone. People really need to calm down around here. Eh back on topic, if you want the rom when available, see their blog. Sure their thread will give directions in the op on where to find it, unless they change their minds.
So I decided to buy ROM Manager to support the project but have to admit I was a little disappointed. Sadly I prefer the candy coating of Sense to that of CM. Don't get me wrong, there's a lot to like in CM too. I just tend to like the polish of Sense. Regardless, I had thought I might have direct access to many of the ROMs I've seen throughout the forums. Apparently that's not the case. Does ROM Manager only support CM ROMs?
No worries. I know I could get a refund for the App and return it but I'm cool with it. Maybe in the future more ROMs will become available for it for the Incredible.
Rom Manager supports virtually any rom, it's just a matter of the author setting up his server to work with Rom Manager AFAIK. More will be added eventually.
The chefs have to opt in to be included in ROM manager. Moto Droid had tons of stuff to choose from and I loved it. I have yet to see anything interesting in ROM Manager for the Incredible. Urge your favorite chefs to participate!
Ok, thanks guys. Hopefully things will get more active in the future then.
ROM Manager will gain more roms in due time, there isn't really alot of roms out for the inc as it is now. Also like mentioned its up to the rom devs to put them on there. They will come.
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I used to be a fan of Sense, but the fact of the matter is that it's bloated.
There are plenty of alternatives in a ROM like CM for all of the Sense features you'd miss.
Also u can download any ROM and use ROM Manager to install it. Just download rom go into rom manager and choose install from SD. Imho its easier than booting into recovery and installing. So, i. A sense it does support everything else. Its also ez to manage and restore ur backups through ROM manager. Once u use it for a while and figure it out it can b a very handy tool if u are addicted to flashing ROMS. Goodluck i hope this can b of assistance to u
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Yeah the developer of ROM Manager strongly encourages all devs to submit their ROMs... Other phones such as the Moto Droid have a much larger selection... As ROM development gets further along, there will be more on ROM Manager for Incredible as well.
I think the incredible has been hurt by the lack of phones available. I don't recall the original moto droid having inventory issues like the incredible. I think this has hindered rom development and availability of different roms. Imagine if we did not have months of no incredible phones available. The popularity of the incredible might be different, thus in my mind making the demand and supply of roms more available.
I am a big fan of Cyanogen's roms so not that big of a deal for me. I know that once the drivers are released the camera will be fixed. I am wondering if we will be able to have video out with cyan's roms?
Either way - rom manager is a great program and has a lot of different functionalities and uses. Some listed below:
flashing other roms (duh)
nandroid
partition sd card
fix permissions
Let's hope that HTC releases the drivers soon
m1k3- said:
I used to be a fan of Sense, but the fact of the matter is that it's bloated.
There are plenty of alternatives in a ROM like CM for all of the Sense features you'd miss.
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No there isnt ... there are a few similar apps that just dont quite do it and there are others that are such crapware you would be embarrassed to show your phone to anyone. Seriously when i went with a vanilla UI and tried to find alternatives to Sense widgets and apps, I found out just how crappy the apps were on this OS.
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No there isnt ... there are a few similar apps that just dont quite do it and there are others that are such crapware you would be embarrassed to show your phone to anyone. Seriously when i went with a vanilla UI and tried to find alternatives to Sense widgets and apps, I found out just how crappy the apps were on this OS.
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Well I'll have to half agree with you there, there are some Sense widgets that I could never find replacements for. It's really a trade off, although it would be nice if we could somehow extract some of those to be used with a 3rd party or even stock launcher
Looks like SkyRaider was added to ROM Manager
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Looks like SkyRaider was added to ROM Manager
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LOL! I'd like to think I may have had something to do with that. I PM'd him earlier and in short time he replied letting me know he was going to add it. Maybe he was going to do it anyway, I don't know.
Regardless, it GREAT that other cookers are starting to get in on the action. I think more people will end up trying their ROMs too. It's a win - win for everyone.
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Well I'll have to half agree with you there, there are some Sense widgets that I could never find replacements for. It's really a trade off, although it would be nice if we could somehow extract some of those to be used with a 3rd party or even stock launcher
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Launcher Pro is going to support that.
Sounds interesting, but it'd be nice if your battery lasts longer than 20 minutes on a full charge, unlike when you're running Sense.
Btw camera is working on cm6 for the inc supposedly. So maybe the dev of skyraider can implement the fix some how.
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Btw camera is working on cm6 for the inc supposedly. So maybe the dev of skyraider can implement the fix some how.
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Where did you hear that the camera is working for cm 6?
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CM6 Inc test 8 is on ROM Manager now (under the Koush section). Camera works, camcorder still broken.
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Btw camera is working on cm6 for the inc supposedly. So maybe the dev of skyraider can implement the fix some how.
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I think I saw something posted in ROM Manager in the Sky Raider area to fix this. Don't know the specifics or if the video is working. I plan on installing the ROM when I get some free time later.
ok so ive had my aria for about one or two months and i been keepin up with the Liberated roms but Cyanogen just been itching the back of my head to try it so yesterday i did and ive been playin around with it and its some things i like and some i dont a little more that i dont so i restored back to liberated and i was thinking... can you integrate the roms r juss take parts from Cyanogen and put the on Liberated?
What parts would you want integrated into cm6 from liberated? If it's the sense widgets it's not possible to integrate them into cm6.
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Yes, you can dump a ROM and play chef. Like what was said above, except for HTC Sense anything can be added or removed.
I didnt want to give up Sense at first so I made a custom 2.1 so I could keep Sense but have some other features that were on Froyo. Now I am just using CM6.
I kno you can't put sense parts in cm6 I wanted cm6 parts on liberated like the notification bar customization and the notification drop down that's like the main thing I like
And I would try and " play chef" with the roms but I Dnt kno were to start r wat im doing lol
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Outside of the Sense stuff, CM6 has everything Liberated has and more. I think it would be a lot of work to add some of the mods from CM6. I was like you at first but I bought Launcher Pro and learned to live with CM6, now I can't look back. Do a nandroid of your Liberated then move to CM6 for a week, I think you might just like it.
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Outside of the Sense stuff, CM6 has everything Liberated has and more. I think it would be a lot of work to add some of the mods from CM6. I was like you at first but I bought Launcher Pro and learned to live with CM6, now I can't look back. Do a nandroid of your Liberated then move to CM6 for a week, I think you might just like it.
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Yea I was going to you launcher pro on cm6 instead of ADW but wen I installed cm6 I couldn't find the market n that's another reason why I went back to liberated
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Yea I was going to you launcher pro on cm6 instead of ADW but wen I installed cm6 I couldn't find the market n that's another reason why I went back to liberated
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Did you flash the gapps? The market is in there
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delutedsoul23 said:
Did you flash the gapps? The market is in there
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No I didn't but that only fixes the market for me I still like liberated better with a few exceptions on cm6
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Outside of the Sense stuff, CM6 has everything Liberated has and more.
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Except properly working bluetooth. The stock bluetooth stack works fine, but AOSP bluetooth doesn't work at all with certain devices, for example the in-car bluetooth in my BMW.
Doesn't look like this will be fixed anytime soon either, as they either don't know how to or don't care enough to copy over the functional parts from the stock bluetooth.
From the FAQ:
Q. What's wrong with bluetooth? It doesn't work with my floozengadget.
A. Nothing. All bluetooth functions have been confirmed *WORKING* with compatible devices.
Q. But my floozengadget device is bluetooth compatible. What's wrong with bluetooth?
A. Nothing. Android AOSP bluetooth on the broadcom chipset is not compatible with every bluetooth device. Consistent compatibility issues have been noted with devices using certain parrott chipsets, certain automobiles with factory bluetooth including most Nissans, Volkswagons and an assortment of other devices and autos.
Q. Can you fix bluetooth so it will work with my floozengadget device?
A. No.
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So, I am going to flash CM7 on my phoen pretty soon, but I will really miss the nice camera app from stock and the contact integration system (facebook, skype, +others). Is there any way that these features can be somehow used in CM7? I mean, is there some possibility for the CM mod to eventually use these features as default?
also, side note question, but, is Iced Glacier pretty much a Sense ROM?
thanks!
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So, I am going to flash CM7 on my phoen pretty soon, but I will really miss the nice camera app from stock and the contact integration system (facebook, skype, +others). Is there any way that these features can be somehow used in CM7? I mean, is there some possibility for the CM mod to eventually use these features as default?
also, side note question, but, is Iced Glacier pretty much a Sense ROM?
thanks!
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I/G is a sense ROM. Which uses the Sense Framework. Cyanogen is a AOSP ROM it is impossible for Sense framework .apk (programs) to work on AOSP ROMs. so to answer your question if you want the camera use I/G.
until htc open sources sense, which they wont do, we will never be able to get sense based apps to run without the sense framework.
Thanks guys. Do you know of any AOSP based apps which look nicer than the default camera, and are as fast?
also, i just thought of this, does CM7 support "swype" typing?
and does iced glacier make the phone run faster/longer than sense, just like CM?
sorry for all these questions in the same thread, but they are somewhat related
Zdravkobg said:
Thanks guys. Do you know of any AOSP based apps which look nicer than the default camera, and are as fast?
also, i just thought of this, does CM7 support "swype" typing?
and does iced glacier make the phone run faster/longer than sense, just like CM?
sorry for all these questions in the same thread, but they are somewhat related
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I dont have all of the answers you're looking for, but Iced Glacier should have better battery life than stock, and it should perform much better as well.
Swype is supported on cm7. the beta is still open. check out beta.swype.com
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until htc open sources sense, which they wont do
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T-Mobile has open sourced their theming interface to the myTouch 4G.
https://github.com/tmobile
They say it will be rolled into CM7. I don't know if this will be enough to run the stock Camera app and Contacts app.
its already in cm7, but thats not whats needed for the sense features. It literally needs the sense frameworks.
I found one but I think it's too old to install...I got an error. Any suggestions?
fresh 3.5 10 char
mkeena0305 said:
fresh 3.5 10 char
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lol hardly bare bones...
I have no answer for you though... there really isn't any.
You could looking at Sprint Lover's Rom. The dev likes to keep it pretty stock.
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lol hardly bare bones...
I have no answer for you though... there really isn't any.
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great advice, i sent a donation your way)))))
Cawley said:
I found one but I think it's too old to install...I got an error. Any suggestions?
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I'm using koni's elite series 1. Fast and appealing to the eyes. Waiting for the release of series 2 hopefully tomorrow!
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Wow I think some people have a serious misunderstanding about what "bare bones" means.
i think there's a version of the base that is used for mikfroyo. basically all sprint stock except the files have been trimmed to not include other language options or something
OP- you need to clarify if you mean "closest to a stock evo rom" or "closest to aosp android" or something else. You can find an RUU (rom update utility) by searching in the dev section if you want a stock evo. You should also be able to find a flashable zip instead of the ruu. If you want base android, check out some of the aosp roms, but keep in mind it won't have any sprint crap, including 4g (except cm7 nightly roms). If you want a stock evo (with sense) but without uninstallable bloatware (sprint tv, nascar, friendstream, etc) check out maybe sprint lovers, which should let you uninstall that stuff.
I would check out Aamikam's base rom. He trimmed out a lot of stuff but it still has all the apps. If you want a near sense less, minimal rom, look for neoevo (or evoneo) which is based on Aamikam's rom but without all the bloatware and not so much evening.
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i kind of take it "bear bones" means all the phone needs to run... nothing more. (The op didn't really explain to well what they wanted )
If that is a correct assumption, there really is no rom out there like that.
Lol wow.... you really donated to me? xD i got the email when i wasn't on here and was a little confused
I don't know if he made a rom but I know JoeyKrim is into that very stripped down thing.
Isn't there a wiki with details of the different roms and what was the goals from the dev who kanged them together?
Give Frost Rom a shot, easily the fastest rim because of how stripped it is, but you lose some of the sense functionality.
Kings unleashed Rom. Fast and bare. Plus after you flash Dalvik2cache mod you have 312 mbs free. That's very bare
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