Trying to orchestrate the Rodgers captivate firmware transfer - Captivate Android Development

I setting this up so that when the Rodgers version comes out, hopefully on the 20th, we can have the HOW TO ready for the people who are planning on getting this phone so they can be able to extract and dump the firmware for the phone to this site in a timely manner so the developers can piece this firmware back together.
Anyone getting the Rodgers Captivate on the rumored release date? If so stay tuned because hopefully some one can post up how you can help us by dumping your firmware.
Someone please post up a how to so we can get this phone up and going. I have my fingers crossed ...This seems to be our last hope.

Why does your post sound like nothing has been going on here, and the Rogers Captivate firmware is our only hope. As I post this from my JH2 loaded phone, the only thing that I think the Rogers dump would add, would be HSUPA. We can have made pretty good progress on the other issues. It would be good to lick the wake up lag on compiled kernels, but a firmware dump is not going to help with that.
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There is no need to "set up" a thread for possibly getting a firmware dump from a device without a firm release date. Feel free to recreate once the device is actually released.

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From Samsung via e-mail Froyo 11/11 (No Ninja's involved)

As you probably know last Month that Samsung pulled-out the froyo Update files of the Samsung Galaxy S from its servers due to Many System Bugs that Made the Android froyo unstable and laggy. And Samsung UK confirmed on its twitter Status that the Froyo Update is Coming on November on its Final Version and to All Network operators and No More Delays...No More pulling-out!!
We Got Some Information that the Release Date of the Galaxy S Froyo update for USA Carriers and UK Carriers is somewhere around 11th November,2010 as a FINAL Release Date. Worldwide release will follow in few days after the Official Release of the Froyo ROM for Samsung Galaxy S, which Means that All Galaxy S users Worldwide (Include Middle-East and Arab gulf users) will get the update on November along with UK,USA Carriers too.
Froyo rolling out in UK Nov 4
So The Update is Coming Finally and NO More Delays AT ALL... More Stable... More Smoother, its a matter of time right Now. As I always say "Waiting for the froyo to come-out, better than waiting for it to load!".
http://www.youmobile.org/blogs/entry/Galaxy-S-Getting-Froyo-on-11-November-Final-Date-
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Regards,
The Samsung Galaxy S Team.
Hmm. My read of the actual text that Samsung sent out is not actually any different than it was a week or so ago: the i9000 will probably have 2.2 sometime before the end of the month, along with the rest of the UK/Europe. I really don't see anything in the "official" Samsung notice that indicates Verizon, or any other US carrier.
However, since the blog posts cite "Some information" for "somewhere around 11th, November as a FINAL release date" (How's that for ambiguous, "somewhere around", but it's also "FINAL"...), I'll be guardedly optimistic.
Make that HEAVILY GUARDEDLY optimistic...
Verizon will decide when its released, not Samsung.
it says late in November for the carrier branded versions
adrynalyne said:
Verizon will decide when its released, not Samsung.
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....Bingo!
/sigh
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I don't care. Wait before you flame, please...
I spent the last year with an Omnia, and I tried every possible rom on it until I found the one I liked/could put up with the missing features. It wasn't perfect, but I knew that a sweet android phone was in my upgrade future so I dealt. WinMo has it's flaws, but you can't fault the dev community for everything they did to make an ok device better.
Now here I sit swyping on arguably the best hardware on the market (other Galaxy S offerings aside...) and I have to say I really like it.
Voodoo-ed, de-binged, de-odexed, and de-TouchWizzed is way easier than trying a dozen roms on a weekend and adding .cabs from 100 websites to come up with a phone that still half the time didn't know where my finger was trying to press!
What does FroYo have to offer? Apps that run off the SD card? Flash? Minor, although it is a bit frustrating that by the time we get it, it will just about be time for gingerbread.
Guess I'm trying to say, the best stuff about froyo is going to get too us sooner or later whether VZW or Samsung give it to us or the very talented dev community here makes it happen. News that comes from them isn't why I log in here.
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adrynalyne; said:
Verizon will decide when its released, not Samsung.
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Just trying to give some legit info for a change... A lot of wet noodles.
Ok so I was told 2.2 would be released the other day.... and YES I used the word NINJA. ... I was wrong. But do we gotta keep mentioning NINJAS? ? Hahahahahahaha : )
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No ninja source? I have my doubts about this info...
As for Froyo, I am excited to have flash, but beyond that, voodoo seems to meet my needs. Sure, you can't get rid of voodoo without performing a animal sacrifice, but it does make my phone smooth and sexy.
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Just trying to give some legit info for a change... A lot of wet noodles.
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Sorry man, I wasn't trying to pee in your cornflakes, it's just that I have more faith in devs than VZW & Samsung to get us what we want.
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I don't know about you but I am waiting for my navigation to be fixed. Not to worried about the little extras but the major fixes that are, major.
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Quoted from original post 'No More pulling-out!!' That's what she said! Ha Ha...
I'm sorry I couldn't help it. I wont do it again I swear.
Honestly I can't wait to see what magic the dev community creates with Froyo and the Fascinate. My thanks to all of you!!!
Hopefully what happened with all the Droid 1 releases is what will happen here:
Motorola (in this case Samsung) readies a build, gives it to VZW for testing.
VZW takes forever testing it, and either rejects or preps it for release.
The "hopefully" part is that, hopefully, in the meantime, the file gets leaked from the Samsung end and into our hands.
Not trying to be pessimistic, but if that first file didn't leak, Im doubtful that this one will leak early either
If Verizon decides to sit on the release at least we have US Cellular as a backup. In fact it seems like US Cellular does not waste their time with carrier customizations so they might just push it out the same day they get it from Samsung.
I used to be a US Cellular customer, my wife still is, they will not get in any hurry, I would not count on them for anything.
nitroxeno said:
If Verizon decides to sit on the release at least we have US Cellular as a backup. In fact it seems like US Cellular does not waste their time with carrier customizations so they might just push it out the same day they get it from Samsung.
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You missed the point of the post bud.
Verizon, or any carrier, does NO customizations, they have NO development (read: coding) teams. They don't alter the file they receive from the OEM (in this case Samsung) in ANY WAY. The bloatware you see comes with the build straight out of Samsung's repository, with the specs that Verizon requested. They take their sweet time for a multitude of reasons, and somewhere in that timeframe its held up for internal testing. Each carrier is different, but Verizon is notorious for being an extensive tester, and rejecting builds pretty often.
Bloatware that Samsung did not code....VZW did or outsourced. Hence people are arguing with you. You aren't wrong, but neither are you entirely correct.
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I made this post to give some indication of the progress of Froyo, sadly most people want more or are intent on offering some type of dark cloud.
I know Froyo might not be released on the 11th, but at least we have a legit source of its progress. Hopefully around that time or before we will have a leaked build for testing and or roms (like some other devices). I'm sure thats when the dev section will take off.
well if samsung releases it Nov 11, dont they post the source up too, so we could have a modded version running before vzw does anything?

Help me get optus to answer my question

We were promised by Optus that mid November we would get Froyo. Hit them up on @Optus on twitter or their support email. If more people start asking then we will actually get an answer.
At the rate it's going, we might well be the very last people in the world to get Froyo for our devices, even though we were some of the earliest adopters for the handset.
Keep us updated on your progress mate. I don;t have a twitter account but am in the same books as you.
I have rung them a few times but they are less then knowledgeable with a response.
Most of them you talk to don't have a clue what your talking about. ie. Firmware what?
Then try and direct you to call Samsung.
The last time I spoke to Samsung in Australia they couldn't provide any details at all.
A sad sad state of affairs to be sure.
This was posted on another forum I'm a member of (not phone related, just a Galaxy S thread). Sorry, I don't have links to back it up, so take it with a grain of salt.
From Optus Business Blog: dt. 16/11
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News: Android 2.2 for Samsung Galaxy S is now available
16/11/2010
Owners of Samsung's Galaxy S line of phones have been patiently waiting for the Android 2.2 update that many other Android owners have had for months, and now it looks like the wait may finally be over.
Samsung has announced that later tonight, at 8:00 PM, a download will become available to SamsungMobile.com that will be compatible with all Galaxy S devices, upgrading them to Android 2.2.
The news comes after Google and Samsung have continuously been dodgy about details regarding the update for Samsung's Android-powered smartphones. To date, the only handsets to receive the upgrade have been phones manufactured by other companies. Only about a quarter of all Android users have upgraded their device to the latest OS.
Many of those who haven't upgraded simply have a phone that is too outdated to receive it. But the Galaxy S platform is one of the most technically adept on the market right now and is more than capable of running Froyo.
Exactly what has been causing the hold-up is anyone's guess, but it's been a real problem for Samsung as it tries to market the devices.
Android 2.2 brings with it features like full browser support for the latest Flash video standard, the ability to use your phone as a mobile Wi-Fi hotspot, and enhanced voice controls for all aspects of the device. It should be a welcome addition to the Galaxy S family.
Written by Mark Raby from TG Daily
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Written by Mark Raby from TG Daily
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This is from a US news website called TGDaily which was talking about the update but he missed the mark for sure.
It's not specifically related to OPTUS at all but a general comment stating Froyo was now available.
When you go to the Samsungmobile.com website you have to pick a region.
Australia takes you to that regions site and the Kies version here is way way old 1.5.1.10083
When you install this Kies, it will prompt you to update to the newer version.
BUT.......no Froyo.
Sad sad sad.
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This was posted on another forum I'm a member of (not phone related, just a Galaxy S thread). Sorry, I don't have links to back it up, so take it with a grain of salt.
From Optus Business Blog: dt. 16/11
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All of this was proven to be wrong, and was copied from a blog entry from the day before from TG Daily.
It was promptly removed from the Optus blog.
Optus made an announcement on Twitter that Samsung delivered to them around 01/11/2010 the new firmware. They had to create their optus customisation for it and intended to release it mid november. Now its the 19th and it still isn't out. I figure anyone who cares should go put a question to them @Optus or their support email until we get an answer.
I don't mind the wait as such, it's just that I want to know what they are doing. I hate "two more weeks". IF they could say we are having trouble getting the widget to work and we want that working before we release, then OK, but silence is just downright frustrating!
Why the heck do you need the Optus customisations for? It's not like you get extra wallpapers or optimisations just a bunch of useless widgets and shortcuts but whatever.
I hope official firmware from Optus is better than Nordic JPA version.
I have JPA Froyo on my optus GS via Reg hack. Wifi is ify and phone lags...
Put same app side by side on GS and iPhone, GS one is slow.
EG. Kids only want to use iPhone for Talking Tomcat because it does not miss every second word.
Sad!
I was in the same boat as you guys not long ago. Waiting for Optus to release their modified firmware, checking kies day to day. I got kinda fed up waiting, figured that the firmware is of course just going to include all the optus and samsung bloatware to slow down the phone. Not to mention relying on kies to work properly.
So in the end I just put Dark's Rom on. works fantastically really. learnt how to do it (easy guide in his thread) and actually did it in under half an hour. the actual doing it only takes like 10 minutes. I know it's not for everyone, but i'm so glad I decided to go down that route rather than rely on optus.
I don't understand why you guys have to know what's going on all the time.. Optus have stated that their release intention is "By the end of November", for quite some time now.
Knowing exactly what's going on won't get you the release any faster, it serves no purpose but to waste their time by answering the children in the back seat "Are we there yet, are we there yet, are we there yet".
We'll get there, when we get there.
Perhaps if December comes along, and it's still not release, THEN start nagging.
Or just abandon all hope and flash a rom! I mean you are on xda after all.
I was waiting with my old eclair rom but went and flashed docs rom. I only regret not doing it sooner.
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Agreed, Custom firmware is guaranteed better than Optus bloatware.
Insanity, Spike Speedy v3 and Darky's v4.1 are all perfect for quick, fully optimised and bloat-free roms.
stevles said:
Agreed, Custom firmware is guaranteed better than Optus bloatware.
Insanity, Spike Speedy v3 and Darky's v4.1 are all perfect for quick, fully optimised and bloat-free roms.
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Comes with APN settings? Can choose which Optus apps you want etc?
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Care to quote the source that told you it was coming at the end of november?
Optus reply to my question
Content for those who can't be bothered:
"Update: we just got 2.2 from Samsung & testing it now so it's ready for you guys. Aiming to make download available early-to-mid November."
As of yesterday:
http://twitter.com/#!/Optus/status/5408549857398784
@optus is android 2.2 available for SGS?
@JoeeSTACK_ Not yet Joseph. We're expecting it to be available late November. Cheers - Julz
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There's no point spamming them on Twitter with the SAME QUESTION over and over again 50000 times, because I highly doubt busying up the customer support team will have any impact on whatever development team is modifying the firmware for release.
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Comes with APN settings? Can choose which Optus apps you want etc?
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Alot of custom firmware comes with the Optus APN, the one I'm using at the moment came with it.
Which is Insanity.. Very barebones but you can easily install whatever stock apk's you want via the included link he gave to them on his thread.
If you want the Optus apk's (Why on earth you would is beyond me..) I'm almost sure you could get them off optus zoo, just give Optus a call and find out if you have any troubles I guess.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=9264973&postcount=1
Edit: Also the Optus APN info can easily be added to the phone manually by going to Wireless and network > mobile networks > Access Point Names > press menu button, new APN
and the information for the APN (and all other Aussy ones) is here: http://ausdroid.net/apns/
I'm not neccessarily after a date, I want a reason. If they would just let us know that they really are still working on it, they aren't stuck with a resource problem or something like that then OK. I just hate it when they leave you with no news.
And my original statement still stands that we may well be the last carrier to actually get Froyo. I want the official one because I'm going into Optus if it doesn't fix the GPS for a warranty claim.
I want to know the date so I know when I can use the phone to it's full ability as advertised!
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Just use the reg kies hack guys! I did a month ago all my settings etc remained intact...what r u waiting for it's beyond easy to do
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Was T-Mobile UK Froyo OFFICIAL relased OTA/Kies Galaxy S?

OTA
Here is the UK guys chatting about it:
http://support.t-mobile.co.uk/discus...eit.offset=300
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Samsung Galaxy S 2.2 update
Posted: 2 days ago
Hi folks
Thanks a lot for all your patience regarding the Galaxy S froyo update.
Our handset team have been working closely with Samsung regarding this update and future updates and would like to share their news with you.
Our goal is to make the update process smoother and we are working to become the only mobile operator offering FOTA (Firmware over the Air) updates for the Samsung product range. The aim was and still is to have the FOTA update available at some point today. If for reasons outwith our control we are unable to have a FOTA update process fully functioning by close of play today, then we will make the update available for download via Samsung KIES tomorrow (Dec 1st)
Thanks again for all the feedback you've given us through our forums.
Cheers
Barry
T-Mobile forum team
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Found the above here:
http://support.t-mobile.co.uk/discu...157760012c52e07803002f32&messageit.offset=280
Anyone know anything about this?
The post is about how they promised it 11/30, then 12/1, and it still isn't out. Apparently it will come out next week, so people fed up with t-mo and Samsung are just downloading it off XDA.
entropism said:
The post is about how they promised it 11/30, then 12/1, and it still isn't out. Apparently it will come out next week, so people fed up with t-mo and Samsung are just downloading it off XDA.
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Yeah. Sorry...I wasn't done updating. Take a look.
If anyone has it through Kies...or knows someone that does....let us know.
I'm starting to think that poory written bs about 2011 might not be bs at all.....samsung really needs to get there crap together
Can't find any data on it.
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I'm starting to think that poory written bs about 2011 might not be bs at all.....samsung really needs to get there crap together
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Just so you know we haven't gotten the update on the Epic due to "administrative" issues between Sprint and Google.
I was talking with someone to day and found out its something dealing with interfering with Sprint voice packages; seeing as you can call for free through google now.. Sprint doesn't like that too much..

Stuck on DI18

Hey all. I am curious, are you guys all getting Froyo by doing a manual update??? I am trying the UPDATE FIRMWARE option (currently on DI18) and getting a message that I am on the latest version.
If you search the forums a bit you will find your answer.
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Milkman, I'm in the same boat - been searching forums, seems like folks who want OTA will have to wait.
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dude above is hinting for the manual update of the OTA released update. I am on 18 also waiting for OTA. If I didn't have hw id go for it. I just dont have time if i brick my phone in the process.
Thanks Big. I wish the other reply was more helpful, like maybe a link or something. I love how people tell you to search when you already did...
I may just do the update using clockwork, but was hoping to do OTA.
I will holdout a little longer to see if it magically appears on OTA.
The comment was referring to the fact that this has been extensively covered already in the forum. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=861213 has the instructions on how to apply the OTA update to a stock Epic.
The official OTA hasn't been released by Sprint/Samsung yet, DK28 is just the most likely final release.
The instructions above will show you how to update, I updated my wife's stock Epic last night with no issues.
thank you elite, as a new android user this isn't really apparent, even from the bulk of that thread - that this isn't an official OTA sprint release.
There are folks that are reporting they got froyo from an OTA update, which counters your information. I wonder how true or untrue that is.
If sprint hasnt released the official froyo then why are users getting it OTA. I call bs on your statement.
yep, I second that call mbkowns.
The OTA was being pushed to specific test phones, with the Hardware version D700.0.4
No one has determined how those got in the wild, almost everyone has version .5
The update was only pushed to the .4 phones, again this is all in the dev section.
if that is the case, then how do folks know that its the 'official' froyo release? I can see that the dl link is from an authoritative source, but its not telling.
i.e. if its not available to all subscribers then its not a release, right?
It is not the official release, just a possible release candidate that was sent to the .4 phones only.
Basically, a guy last night noticed that Di18 updated to DK28 and posted it here. after several hundred posts, we all realized that it was only for .4 phones. Those are supposedly developmental phones that got released with the mainstream .5 phones. How? We do not know.
But since it was an OTA for those phones, a ton of folks have assumed that it was the final official release.
Either way, I ODINed my old DG27, got gps fix in Maps, then ODINed the latest. It's not a bad process, just touchy, and since then I've enjoyed the best Froyo ROM yet.
I hope this helps.
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if its not available to all subscribers then its not a release, right?
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It is not the official release from sprint to the general public, it is a release candidate that they will let devs test for a few days. If devs report no issues they will start the official OTA release.
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thats great info, I fear however that due to the reportings of xda and engadget, etc.. that most folks will or have interpreted this event as an official sprint release of froyo. I am in no particular hurry for froyo on my epic but as this news has panned out it has caught my and others attention in an apparent dubious way - surely due the reportings and not in any way of the xda members.
if this is true, this is an important point that folks should be aware of *before* doing their own joyous upgrade - meaning that if sprint didn't bless this code they shouldn't expect it to be the final real thing.

Kies vs. OTA

Can someone post (or re-post) a link to where T-mobile or Samsung says the update is only via Kies?
This assumes that millions of Vibrant owners a) are PC-savvy enough to update that way, b) run Windows in the first place (unless there is a linux version of Kies that I don't know about, please post link if you do)... while not *utterly* outside the realm of possibility, when you step back and look this is a pretty ridiculous thought that doesn't pass the smell test for me until I see some kind of proof.
Which leads me to the point that unless you have gotten a text or update notification on your phone from T-mobile with layman-friendly (pre-noob) instructions on how to use kies to update your phone from stock eclair to stock froyo, I don't believe that what is on Kies necessarily corresponds to what will be pushed OTA.
In fact I think it's quite possible if not likely that last second changes/fixes may have necessitated a final KA7 last night to hit the airwaves with "today".
Anyone have a screenshot of an OTA *NOTIFICATION* having been sent to them, and what form that takes and what instructions it gives? That's the proof I want to see.
crap..dp
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richiehd:
photo of their source:
http://yfrog.com/f/gy2nwxlj/
their tweet:
http://twitter.com/#!/TmoNews/status/28494230598979584
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Can someone post (or re-post) a link to where T-mobile or Samsung says the update is only via Kies?
This assumes that millions of Vibrant owners a) are PC-savvy enough to update that way, b) run Windows in the first place (unless there is a linux version of Kies that I don't know about, please post link if you do)... while not *utterly* outside the realm of possibility, when you step back and look this is a pretty ridiculous thought that doesn't pass the smell test for me until I see some kind of proof.
Which leads me to the point that unless you have gotten a text or update notification on your phone from T-mobile with layman-friendly (pre-noob) instructions on how to use kies to update your phone from stock eclair to stock froyo, I don't believe that what is on Kies necessarily corresponds to what will be pushed OTA.
In fact I think it's quite possible if not likely that last second changes/fixes may have necessitated a final KA7 last night to hit the airwaves with "today".
Anyone have a screenshot of an OTA *NOTIFICATION* having been sent to them, and what form that takes and what instructions it gives? That's the proof I want to see.
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For the Mini Kies notification
http://yfrog.com/f/gy2nwxlj/
As I wrote in a couple of other threads. You are right. This is just a voluntarily upgrade. And I think it was mainly to shut up to angry power users. As proof we have the KA7 leak that just came out today and the version Kies is updating is KA6. The mandatory OTA will be coming some time later but this seems to be a move to quiet down the press about the whole Froyo update issue. If this was the official update from T-mobile we would probably have the source code today as well, which is what we here on XDA really want.
Interesting. This is the first time that I've seen any kind of documentation showing that TMO won't be doing distributing as an FOTA update. Thanks for the heads up KA7. Still running JL5 while I've been waiting for things to settle down somewhat. Hopefully KA7 will be the last official release for the next month or so now.
any word on what version KA7 is? 2.2.1?
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For the Mini Kies notification
http://yfrog.com/f/gy2nwxlj/
As I wrote in a couple of other threads. You are right. This is just a voluntarily upgrade. And I think it was mainly to shut up to angry power users. As proof we have the KA7 leak that just came out today and the version Kies is updating is KA6. The mandatory OTA will be coming some time later but this seems to be a move to quiet down the press about the whole Froyo update issue. If this was the official update from T-mobile we would probably have the source code today as well, which is what we here on XDA really want.
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Agreed... and personally I'm waiting for Nero 6 (7?). But I'm going to be very interested in what T-mobile says *externally* today.
A promise of an update today from someone that high up at T-mobile... I'm sorry, when average josephine-housewife who bought a pretty Vibrant from the nice man at the T-mobile stand at Wal-Mart finds out that it *isn't* just a click-click-click on their phone like JI6 was... there's going to be a *lot* of very pissed off callers (and T-mobile phone support techs).
This effectively makes it an update that isn't really an update for everyone who has a Vibrant, not even everyone who has a Vibrant on T-mobile, and if that's the way it's left I'd be very surprised. I don't think that that is the message they want to send right now. "See, we updated today. Sorta..."
*This* update isn't mandatory, isn't FOTA. There could be an OTA 2 hours later discussed in their "Community". Not in the scope of the update being discussed in that screenshot.
It's entirely possible, now that I think about it, that KA6 is where features and so forth freeze, and that KA7 (and higher) are more focused on fixing anything that could break during OTA update, which could be (supportably) from JI6 *or* JFD.
We'll just have to see, but right now all we have proof of is that there is an update, and it is on Kies. I think that there *has* to be an honest to god OTA coming. To not do so almost guarantees that you will end up having a very high number of customers still on 2.1, perhaps over 50%, out of sheer laziness or lack of information/confidence to update. That support nightmare, again, just doesn't pass the smell test.
Also Kies Mini is refusing to update my phone, and I'm not sure how many people will haev a similar issue but it downloaded a bunch of **** and told me my phone could not be upgraded 5 times in a row.
How many battery pulls do I have to do before the damn thing actually updates?
Terrible experience, IMO, and a huge waste of time seeing as how some of us don't have the fastest internet connections out there...
That software also tends to choke spectacularly on Windows 7 (both 32 and 64-Bit) and AFAIK it does not run on Mac or Linux computers.
On the flip side, T-Mobile's coverage is bad so they put themselves into a corner when it comes to FOTA updates. I'm not driving 20 miles just do download a smartphone update because they only have GPRS and Weak Edge (1-2 Bars) around me...

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