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nexus vs motorola droid (for owners of both)

So I have this ongoing debate with a friend about who has the better phone. The droid has such a biased and idiotic fanboy mentality I really get a worse feeling than I did with apple. Benchmarks bla bla bla droid overclocked out the wazzoo (probably unstable as hell) gets better benchmarks then the nexus oook. Better screen? Better touch sensors? Better 3D? I'm really sick of hearing about it when I've personally used both and think the nexus is better.
The droid seems slow and sluggish moving around menus... even on 2.1 it was slow. The screen seemed to tear and was nowhere near as snappy as my nexus is.
Graphics okay.. sure the droid may perform with higher fps than the Nexus but I really don't care about that. If I wanted to play games on my phone I would get an iPhone which kills all android devices without a doubt. If this is a competition about gaming and graphics the app store and 3D-optimized iPhones are always going to win that debate. To be honest, I haven't even downloaded nor played 1 game on my Nexus since I bought it.
The fact is, I bought the nexus because I want productivity out of my phone. I want to be able to move around quickly through the OS and be able to text, make phone calls, and see my appointments on the screen with ease. Not only that but durability and resistance to daily wear are very important to me. I love the fact that I've had my Nexus since day one, with 0 protection and there is not a single scratch ANYWHERE.
Anyways, this isn't really a rant or "another droid vs nexus" thread (err well I guess it is kinda) but I am just curious for those of you who do infact have BOTH devices to explain your unbiased comments. I don't care about bogus overclocking and stupid benchmarks... I am curious as to how it all boils down when you use it throughout the day; which is a better experience and why?
Oh and if you are super elite and have an EVO as well, I'd be very happy to hear how you rate them all overall. The reason I'm having this debate with myself is because I'm considering leaving ATT for a CDMA carrier but the Nexus is what's keeping me with ATT atm.
Thanks

Nexus One:
- $50/mo contract free for voice and data
- Froyo + future updates immediately
- 1ghz processor
Motorola Droid:
- $70/mo with 2 year lockdown for voice and data
- No updates till months after due to Verizon stall
- 660mhz processor
Either way it's not really a competition for me. I am happy for all the brothers out there that get an android phone and increase the user base.
If I had to choose though I would def go with the Nexus One due to these 3 reasons.

ap3604 said:
Nexus One:
- $50/mo contract free for voice and data
- Froyo + future updates immediately
- 1ghz processor
Motorola Droid:
- $70/mo with 2 year lockdown for voice and data
- No updates till months after due to Verizon stall
- 660mghz processor
Either way it's not really a competition for me. I am happy for all the brothers out there that get an android phone and increase the user base.
If I had to choose though I would def go with the Nexus One due to these 3 reasons.
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That 660MGHz proc sounds pretty bad-ass. That's 660,000,000 GHz, right?

droid seems sluggish..

Not only do i have both phones but I had the Droid first and everyone who knows me was always standing up for it against the n1 guys. that being said... I refuse to use the Droid any more and will only use the N1. nuff said.

my co-worker as a droid.
i did one swipe at the screen to scroll through the menus. stopped. and gave it back to him.
lag. lag. lag. no thanks.
i mean the nexus one has it's lags i guess but nothing compared to that.

codesplice said:
That 660MGHz proc sounds pretty bad-ass. That's 660,000,000 GHz, right?
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Sorry for the misprint

its pretty much common knowledge that the nexus one has the droid beat. both are great phones though, but there is not really anything to debate here. the nexus has better hardware, except maybe for the possibility of a weaker gpu chipset. but run some benchmarks between the two phones, what frames per second do each get? i bet the nexus can match is somewhat.

What about the droid incredible? That is a pretty sweet phone, except for the back cover.

codesplice said:
that 660mghz proc sounds pretty bad-ass. That's 660,000,000 ghz, right?
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its over 9000!!!

adamhlj said:
What about the droid incredible? That is a pretty sweet phone, except for the back cover.
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That back cover looks awesome..... don't know how it would feel holding though.. probably feel weird.

nxt said:
That back cover looks awesome..... don't know how it would feel holding though.. probably feel weird.
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It really doesn't feel that weird when you hold it. I was surprised as I thought it would.

Nexus: better colors
Droid: better resolution and sharpness
Nexus: nicer design and lighter
Droid: physical keyboard
Nexus: faster updates, cooler mods, great benchmark over froyo
Droid: over eclair is faster if overclocked
Droid: better speaker phone, louder sound, stronger wifi and 3g signal, but gets extremely hot while using gps
Nexus: f###ing sexier!
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lets see the nexus one overclock 220%

The Droid is very stable, even clocked above 1GHZ. I personally prefer to go no higher than than that to keep heat down. I do like the N1's form factor more. I'm among the group of people who actually likes having a trackball.
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Luxferro said:
lets see the nexus one overclock 220%
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I'm pretty sure the Droid is stock underclocked and the N1 is not, so I think that would be hard to achieve heh
You could always underclock the N1 to 500MHz and then clock it up to 1100MHz and presto 220%

Nexus: better colors (only some gray get's pink a little)
Milestone: better resolution, sharpness and screen is a little brighter (just a little)
Nexus: nicer design and much lighter
Milestone: physical keyboard
Nexus: faster updates, cooler mods, great benchmark over froyo
Milestone: over eclair is faster if overclocked (9.5/10 MFlops @1.2Ghz STABLE)
Nexus: f###ing sexier! [email protected] recording, trackball (rocks!!!)
Milestone: better speaker phone, louder sound, stronger (resulting in more speed) wifi and 3g signal, but gets extremely hot while using gps
@pibedeayer: thanks voor the template ^^

SBS_ said:
I'm pretty sure the Droid is stock underclocked and the N1 is not, so I think that would be hard to achieve heh
You could always underclock the N1 to 500MHz and then clock it up to 1100MHz and presto 220%
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To be fair the Droid is only stock underclocked by 50 Mhz

so no one who has both prefers the droid... that's what I figured... I wonder why droid users are so closed-minded... it really is a worse following than diehard apple people.
I'm happy to hear I'm not the only person who thinks the droid is sluggish... keyboard is pointless IMO with swype. Too bad google didn't market the Nexus better or maybe it would get the appreciation and attention it deserves.

Until there is a fix on the Nexus One (charansingh_online's work), the Droid has the advantage of taking videos in any light condition without sacrificing frame rates.

A Question For Everyone Here

Why have you chosen the Galaxy or why will you be choosing the Galaxy rather than the Evo? Is the better screen tech your primary reason?
I ask this after being an Evo owner over the past month and now currently testing (playing with) the iPhone 4. I loved the Evo but my unit was defective and so I'm considering getting a new one at the end of July (hoping new batches ship out then) or one of the SGS versions; Verizon, At&t and then T-Mobile in that order is what I'm in favor of as far as which SGS.

AshMa said:
Why have you chosen the Galaxy or why will you be choosing the Galaxy rather than the Evo? Is the better screen tech your primary reason?
I ask this after being an Evo owner over the past month and now currently testing (playing with) the iPhone 4. I loved the Evo but my unit was defective and so I'm considering getting a new one at the end of July (hoping new batches ship out then) or one of the SGS versions; Verizon, At&t and then T-Mobile in that order is what I'm in favor of as far as which SGS.
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Evo 3D power sux, SGS is better eot.

I can't use the EVO 4G because I'm in the UK and we don't have any CDMA networks. Otherwise, I would rather have the EVO 4G for its screen - the Galaxy S' has better contrast, but it has a PenTile matrix, meaning it doesn't have the full complement of the three RGB subpixels per pixel (it only has two), with consequences for sharpness.
For me, it's a decision between the Desire and the Galaxy S, both of which have AMOLED screens, so I can't avoid PenTile. The Galaxy S' screen is definitely better than the Desire's, though, and it also has a better GPU (and, it seems, CPU) and a proper multi-touch digitiser that doesn't get easily confused.

Mithent said:
I can't use the EVO 4G because I'm in the UK and we don't have any CDMA networks. Otherwise, I would rather have the EVO 4G for its screen - the Galaxy S' has better contrast, but it has a PenTile matrix, meaning it doesn't have the full complement of the three RGB subpixels per pixel (it only has two), with consequences for sharpness.
For me, it's a decision between the Desire and the Galaxy S, both of which have AMOLED screens, so I can't avoid PenTile. The Galaxy S' screen is definitely better than the Desire's, though, and it also has a better GPU (and, it seems, CPU) and a proper multi-touch digitiser that doesn't get easily confused.
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Thanks for your input guys! Since you mention the screens, how about the Evo only having 16bit 65K color?

I have yet to choose a new phone but I dumped the EVO after two weeks for three reasons. The 30fps cap, the purple tint, and most importantly the screen only displays 65k colors.
These three were together made me take the phone back.

Supermighty said:
I have yet to choose a new phone but I dumped the EVO after two weeks for three reasons. The 30fps cap, the purple tint, and most importantly the screen only displays 65k colors.
These three were together made me take the phone back.
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All a bit confusing about the Evo now that I look into it bit. Take a look at this post claiming that it's not 16bit: http://androidforums.com/htc-evo-4g...-million-both-phones-199-a-3.html#post1091681
I'm waiting to have my launch day Evo returned to Radio Shack (manager is trying to get me in past the 30 day mark with his Sprint rep). I thought the screen was beautiful and just had issues with the screen raising and a few others build issues.
I need to touch the Galaxy before I know for sure. The Droid X could have been good but the large bump on the back and that ugly 80's camera flash remind me of how ugly I thought the first Droid keyboard was. I'm sure we have a lot of slick devices coming out later this year but it's already a tough call for what to have right now.......

AshMa said:
... The Droid X could have been good but the large bump on the back and that ugly 80's camera flash remind me of how ugly I thought the first Droid keyboard was.......
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Yep, I don't understand how Moto can keep making such butt-ugly phones. Between the ugly Moto design and the ugly Verizon branding, the Droid X is a phone only a true nerd can love

I had a google nexus, which hardware-wise is pretty simillar to the evo.
The snapdragon processor is pretty good, but samsung's hummingbird is better (and is produced at 45nm, less power consumption)
The real tie-breaker for me was the GPU.
The Adreno200 in the snapdragon SOC is pretty weak, if i need to put it in proportions, the SGX540 in the Galaxy S is around 3 times stronger, possibly even a bit more.
Screen- while the evo's screen is sharper (on paper), 65k colors and low contrast ratio wipe that advantage completely. The difference is just too big.
Now the most important point- the evo is a real battery -hogging monster, it can barely last for a day and a half in very moderate use, while the SGS can probably last for twice the time under the same use.
I'm not too a fan of dragging around chargers and backup batteries, don't know about you.
I'd turn my eyes over to the droid X, better hardware (TI OMAP 1GHZ+SGX530>Qualcomm Snapdragon, any day), better battery time, probably a better camera as well. Motorla made a nice comeback.
I'd make the prime options the Epic 4G or Droid X.

MacGuy2006 said:
the Droid X is a phone only a true nerd can love
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Right!!!! When Moto made the Razor they got it all right in the looks dept.....now they keep bringing us boring/ugly styling one after another.
Pika007 said:
I had a google nexus, which hardware-wise is pretty simillar to the evo.
The snapdragon processor is pretty good, but samsung's hummingbird is better (and is produced at 45nm, less power consumption)
The real tie-breaker for me was the GPU.
The Adreno200 in the snapdragon SOC is pretty weak, if i need to put it in proportions, the SGX540 in the Galaxy S is around 3 times stronger, possibly even a bit more.
Screen- while the evo's screen is sharper (on paper), 65k colors and low contrast ratio wipe that advantage completely. The difference is just too big.
Now the most important point- the evo is a real battery -hogging monster, it can barely last for a day and a half in very moderate use, while the SGS can probably last for twice the time under the same use.
I'm not too a fan of dragging around chargers and backup batteries, don't know about you.
I'd turn my eyes over to the droid X, better hardware (TI OMAP 1GHZ+SGX530>Qualcomm Snapdragon, any day), better battery time, probably a better camera as well. Motorla made a nice comeback.
I'd make the prime options the Epic 4G or Droid X.
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I see your points seem valid to me. But personally I think the Epic is too thick with the keyboard (plus Swype is all the typing speed I need in my pocket). If the Epic came without the keyboard and if the screen really is that great; I'd be down to deciding between it and the iPhone because Sprint service with the Evo for me has been wonderful unlike this stupid At&t on the iPhone.
We all seem to get so focused on the specs that may not matter all that much? I mean these are phones and not desktops of say 15 years ago when we would research the heck out of a purchase because we knew we were going to keep it for at least 2, 3 or more years........
Anyhow, I really just don't see the bad in the Evo display I have and it's right here being matched up to my iPhone 4. I'm going to do something that no tech blogs ever seem to do. I'm going to load up both these phones, with the exact same high res images and then see how they look to me. Wish I could test the Galaxy along with these two phones, but I will have returned the Evo by the time I get my hands on a galaxy........

Because im not on sprint
And even if i were still on sprint i wouldnt take evo because of the poor battery life as well as the inferior screen quality.

Why are we focused on specs?
We want games to work on our newly-bought super-high-end phone. That's all.
At first there were the HTC devices with a qualcomm MSM7XXX. OK cpu, weak gpu.
Then came along the droid/milestone. ok cpu, ok+ gpu.
Then the wave of snapdragon devices- Very strong cpu, weak gpu.
We all waited for a balanced solution that will let us have a strong cpu and gpu, with android.
Untill the galaxy S, Droid X and Milestone XT720 come along, the iphone was the only balanced device.
About the displays- it's not that the evo display is bad. It's just that both the samsung and the galaxy s are way better. The first time i loaded a high-res video to my galaxy s side by side with my brother's milestone (which is regarded as a device with a very good screen by itself), my mind was blown. The difference is as clear as day.
I can say this with confidence-
Sharpness is overrated. We are talking about 3-4" screens here, not home 50" displays. As soon as 640X360 resolution over 3.5" was passed, the matter started to become pretty ridiculous. You need a 10X magnification to actually see pixels, i doubt your eyes have that.
On the other hand, be it a 1000" screen or a 1" screen, the difference in contrast/colors in general is always visible.
It might not be the "sharpest" screen around, but it is clearly the display with best colors around.
For someone who uses his phone as a media player a lot, this was VERY important to me.

BuddyLee said:
Because im not on sprint
And even if i were still on sprint i wouldnt take evo because of the poor battery life as well as the inferior screen quality.
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That's what I forgot in my last post; are you guys saying that the SGS has much better battery life than the Evo??? From all the comments on the thread here about first thoughts, it seems that folks aren't doing any better.
On the Evo board, I see all the same types of comments and the same range as I do here. Some Evo owners say they can't make it a day and some say they can make it a day and a half and even 3 days, after make half a dozen changes to the device. I know what my Evo battery life has been like and it's not anywhere near as good as this iPhone I'm trying out or even as good as my HD2 was. So I do have a feeling that I'll try the Galaxy and come right back to this board, asking about how to get better battery life.

I just love this device the screen is awesome!!
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Pika007 said:
Why are we focused on specs?
We want games to work on our newly-bought super-high-end phone. That's all.
At first there were the HTC devices with a qualcomm MSM7XXX. OK cpu, weak gpu.
Then came along the droid/milestone. ok cpu, ok+ gpu.
Then the wave of snapdragon devices- Very strong cpu, weak gpu.
We all waited for a balanced solution that will let us have a strong cpu and gpu, with android.
Untill the galaxy S, Droid X and Milestone XT720 come along, the iphone was the only balanced device.
About the displays- it's not that the evo display is bad. It's just that both the samsung and the galaxy s are way better. The first time i loaded a high-res video to my galaxy s side by side with my brother's milestone (which is regarded as a device with a very good screen by itself), my mind was blown. The difference is as clear as day.
I can say this with confidence-
Sharpness is overrated. We are talking about 3-4" screens here, not home 50" displays. As soon as 640X360 resolution over 3.5" was passed, the matter started to become pretty ridiculous. You need a 10X magnification to actually see pixels, i doubt your eyes have that.
On the other hand, be it a 1000" screen or a 1" screen, the difference in contrast/colors in general is always visible.
It might not be the "sharpest" screen around, but it is clearly the display with best colors around.
For someone who uses his phone as a media player a lot, this was VERY important to me.
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I see where you're coming from! I love games and I tried NOVA on the iPhone 4 two days ago and I was blown away. But I'm just not into gaming on phones and without real controls even if I had the time to play games as often as I'd like to, it just doesn't appeal to me much.
My HD2 came with transformers and I loaded it onto the Evo's sd card. I am a filmmaker and all I can say is that it looked and played perfectly on the Evo. I've heard people say that they watched films on the Evo with terrible results and all I have to say is that any device needs to have the right video format type and bitrate for a specific device (the right encoding app and settings makes all the difference).
I have no doubt the the SGS display is one of the very best if not the very best (it or the iPhone display). BTW' You might want to take a look at this smartphone display review: http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2365915,00.asp
I had not thought of it until I started reading about it here. I'm talking about text not being as clear on the SGS screens. Again, I guess I won't know what these comments are about, until I get to try this phone myself. Some folks say it's a big deal and then others say it's not. Also I guess that has something to do with the "screen door" effect of the SGS display tech?
I guess what I meant about specs was that if any phone can do everything you want it to today and do it well, then that's about all that matters. rather than seeking out the best specs for some type of future proofing that just doesn't make much sense in regards to how quickly phone tech is advancing and how xda folks like us, are going to keep upgrading sooner rather than later. An Example would be people who worry about a phone not having 4G LTE radios now, even though by the time the towers are all in place, those same people, will be moving on to a new phone.

JosipR said:
I just love this device the screen is awesome!!
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Are you having any speed issues and how is your battery life treating you? Also would you say text is as sharp as on other high-end devices?

We being non US does not have the EVO 4G to play with but I have been using a Desire for the last 2 months. The reason why I swapped to the SGS is mainly because of the multitouch screen issue with HTC. Typing with SGS is even better than the iphone which, love it or hate it, were the best in terms of virtual keyboard. However I am disappointed with the speed so far, especially with emails. Hopefully the next firmware address those issues.

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We being non US does not have the EVO 4G to play with but I have been using a Desire for the last 2 months. The reason why I swapped to the SGS is mainly because of the multitouch screen issue with HTC. Typing with SGS is even better than the iphone which, love it or hate it, were the best in terms of virtual keyboard. However I am disappointed with the speed so far, especially with emails. Hopefully the next firmware address those issues.
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After using the iPhone 4 keyboard a lot in the last few days I would have to say yes it is the best tap type touch keyboard. Something about it and I assume the screen tech, make it very good. But the hands down best touch keyboard is Swype hands down which is not on iOS yet. Also the HTC keyboard is also very nice on it's own but also having the voice button on the keyboard is really nice (not sure if the SGS has that as well).
Oh and thanks; I was forgetting about the fact that the rest of the world got the SGS first but no Evo. Sometimes we silly Americans behave as if we are the world.

Pika007 said:
It might not be the "sharpest" screen around, but it is clearly the display with best colors around.
For someone who uses his phone as a media player a lot, this was VERY important to me.
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It's a matter of different priorities, yes: the great majority of what I do on my phone is read or write text, so having nice crisp text is important to me. I remember being amazed by how great the text looked on my first 640x480 PDA with ClearType. Conversely, I rarely watch video or look at photos on my phone.
The decision's pretty much taken out of my hands if I want a high-end Android phone in the UK. I would love the iPhone 4's display though.

Vibrant OR Droid X????

I will have a droid x tomorrow as it was a replacement. In the mean time I bought a vibrant. I love the V but I also love the X!
I know this is V forum but I will also post this in the X forums to see if anyone there had to make a choice like mine!
If you had to choose, which one and why? WHY did you choose the V?

I assume that by being on XDA you'll want to play around with the phone and custom roms, the Droid X's locked bootloader will dampen the fun. Who knows when people will crack it, might be a month, might be a year.

Agreed with what tissimo said. In addition to that, Vibrant offers Super AMOLED Screen (colors are amazing), and 1GHz Hummingbird Processor. Which are pretty much the best specifications for an Android phone at the moment. Not to mention but its rumored that Verizon will be killing "unlimited data" in the future, so T-Mobile has the upper hand if Verizon goes on with that plan of going on capped data plans.

The screen of the Vibrant is perfect. I think 4.3'' is too big. It feels bad in my pocket. The screen of the X is very close to the edge of the phone (scares me). the semi-blur UI sucks compared to TouchWiz. Having the ability to change settings on the notification bar on the Vibrant rocks (and music controls).
But like everyone has, and will say.... Motorola pissed off the android world when they locked their bootloader like it was the holy grail. I would never buy a phone that I could not flash a custom ROM... and you saw how long it took them to get eclair on the droid, laughable. THANK GOD those with a droid could flash a custom rom (yeah Motorola, that helped you a lot, all of these wonderful developers doing your job).

Well I think the Vibrant is just about the perfect screen size. The Droid X just seems too big. Also, the Vibrant will almost assuredly have CM6 before the Droid X, if the X even gets it at all!

^ sadly, it will not.

after 5 failed cliqs i will never buy another motorola phone.. so no droid x for me.

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after 5 failed cliqs i will never buy another motorola phone.. so no droid x for me.
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Haha yeah I was never really impressed with any of Motorolas more fairly recent (last 3-5 years) build quality. RAZR anyone?

Motorola can suck it. I had the Cliq and had nothing but issues with it, not to mention it was so hard to hack. Motoblur is a horrid piece of software and burns through your battery. The vibrant is 100x better IMO.

Short answer, the Vibrant is the current heavyweight champion of the world. Nothing is better.

I went with Vibrant because I felt it was the best phone at the time, and because I hate Verizon. I love the Vibrant despite some initial bugs.
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I own a Vibrant and my co-worker just got a Droid X.
The screen alone on the V blows the X away, to top it off a unit with a 4" display just feels right, whereas 4.3" is overkill, the Droid X looks like a brick, but at the same token I am getting comments that my V is an iPhone rip-off.
As far as the performance is concerned, I felt the Vibrant was snappier especially with Launcher Pro instead of TouchWiz.

cons of X are: probably better support (maybe it will see Gingerbread), 2 noise canceling mics (although i dont know if they work good, Vibrant has 0), camera with dual flash.
Everything else goes to Vibrant......battery life (although i read X is also good), screen quality, size, speed, bluetooth 3.0 (whatever that does)...
X is already seeing updates with fixes, and will see 2.2 very soon........while 2.2 is also coming to Vibrant, nobody knows if its this month or maybe as late as November

I heard the camera is better on dx too. I think it comes down to what provider you can deal with. Verizon is pretty expensive.
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Droid X doesn't have an ARM processor (fail)

What you should really be asking yourself is incredible vs vibrant. Droid x is cute, but its hardware is lacking compared to either of these other phones. Not to mention Motorola phones have been difficult to mod even before the bootloader was locked.
I have to give it to Motorola that they made android way more popular in the USA than it used to be, but for anyone interested in custom ROMs or developing, they just don't compare.
sent from my Samsung Vibrant

djunio said:
Short answer, the Vibrant is the current heavyweight champion of the world. Nothing is better.
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Vibrant is the heavyweight champ and literally weighs like nothing in your hand! All around such a great device!

I went into verizon the other day and played with the droid x for sum time and i have to say i didnt like it all that much. I have the vibrant and its perfect it gets a lil laggy sumtimes but what fones dont and if u root it and get setcpu runnin on it, it will be flawless trust me. and the Vibrant is Super AMOLED scratch resistant screen meanin u dont got to buy a screen protector

I'm down with both phones but once you play with the Vibrant's Amoled screen for a couple days it's difficult going back to LCD screens. It's that good.

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I heard the camera is better on dx too. I think it comes down to what provider you can deal with. Verizon is pretty expensive.
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Its about the same quality. More mps doesnt make it better. Vibrant has ton of in camera features, dont know about X
EDIT. iPhone, Sony, and Nokia cameras are the best on the market, the rest all have glitches here and there and all about the same quality....Vibrant camera is not sharp enough, maybe its a software glitch with auto focus or something...X camera pictures I believe come out noisy due to 8MP, Nexus One pictures lack color....

This or the Captivate?

I'm thinking about getting into the world of Android and smartphones but I'm not sure which phone to get. The Samsung Captivate is good and I have used it before but the Bravo just came out and it seems good as well. I'm not sure which one would be a better choice. Can anyone help?

good news for ya! i have the captivate and my wife just got the bravo so if you have any q's id gladly answer as best i could.. do you plan on rooting/modding the captivate at all? if so the captivate forums are packed full of different ideas. I am having a blast fiddling with mine.

yanks27xwc said:
good news for ya! i have the captivate and my wife just got the bravo so if you have any q's id gladly answer as best i could.. do you plan on rooting/modding the captivate at all? if so the captivate forums are packed full of different ideas. I am having a blast fiddling with mine.
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If I got either one, I would root it since I'm not a big fan of TouchWiz or MotoBlur and would get rid of it. Is the Bravo as smooth as the Captivate for performance, games, and overall usage? Can you list pros and cons of both?

I too am pondering getting the Bravo or going back to the Captivate, has the Captivates GPS issues been fixed?

If you plan on rooting either then i would base my decesion on aesthetics, screen size, feel in your hand, etc.
pro's
captivate: amoled screen is gorgeous!
1 gig humming bird processor is really quick when given the chance (froyo)
camera is much better on the captivate compared to the bravo. (this is really my wifes lone grip about the phone.
cons: gps issues. mine seems fine..fix within 30 secs and tracks to about 20 meters. but I have heard of some phones being not so good. this is a samsung/att issue and not a firmware problem.
That is really the only issue i have with the phone. in the stock rom (2.1) the bottom keys had a 1/2 second to 1 second delay from when i pressed to when the phone would actually respond.. this was extremely annoying for me..but all was fixed with the froyo leaks
IMO the captivate is a more advaced phone in terms of performance... screen, processor (1gig vs 800mhz), camera. (5mp vs 3mp)
however in terms of feel i prefer the bravo. seems a little heavier and a better build quality i also make less mistakes texting on the bravo..
As of right now theres not any dev's doing anything with the bravo. as you can easily see by this forum. ofcoarse this may change in the near future...
good luck with your decision... look at this way.. youre not getting an Iphone so youre already doing better than most

yanks27xwc said:
If you plan on rooting either then i would base my decesion on aesthetics, screen size, feel in your hand, etc.
pro's
captivate: amoled screen is gorgeous!
1 gig humming bird processor is really quick when given the chance (froyo)
camera is much better on the captivate compared to the bravo. (this is really my wifes lone grip about the phone.
cons: gps issues. mine seems fine..fix within 30 secs and tracks to about 20 meters. but I have heard of some phones being not so good. this is a samsung/att issue and not a firmware problem.
That is really the only issue i have with the phone. in the stock rom (2.1) the bottom keys had a 1/2 second to 1 second delay from when i pressed to when the phone would actually respond.. this was extremely annoying for me..but all was fixed with the froyo leaks
IMO the captivate is a more advaced phone in terms of performance... screen, processor (1gig vs 800mhz), camera. (5mp vs 3mp)
however in terms of feel i prefer the bravo. seems a little heavier and a better build quality i also make less mistakes texting on the bravo..
As of right now theres not any dev's doing anything with the bravo. as you can easily see by this forum. ofcoarse this may change in the near future...
good luck with your decision... look at this way.. youre not getting an Iphone so youre already doing better than most
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I won't really use the GPS so that's not an issue for me. How's battery life on them? Also I heard the screen on the Bravo is actually pretty good for a TFT LCD. Do you think once Froyo comes to the Bravo it will perform just as good as the Captivate?

As a Galaxy S owner I would add that you would need to be clinically insane to choose a Bravo over the Captivate =P
It's just no comparison...Captivate has better specs, MUCH better screen, better camera/video, guaranteed upgrade to Froyo and most likely Gingerbread.
Motoblur sucks bigtime, and who knows, it could take a year before you get Froyo.

Is it worth upgrading right now? I can upgrade in October of 2011, but my dad said I can take his account to upgrade......

What are you using now? Yes the bravo screen is decent but it does not compare to the amoled...
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I897 rollin a ridiculously quick Axura beta 2

i'm using just a regular feature phone. the thing about the bravo that intrigues me is the better battery life, crystal talk, and fm radio

I have both phones.
The captivate is a better phone (spec wise) and the screen and size are awesome, but Samsung really goofed with their file system - reports of lag are true in many database intensive uses (email access) and really makes things annoying. Also, the Samsung email and Calendar customizations have nice pros, but also many cons.
The Bravo is a midrange phone but Moto did a nice job on email and calendar enhancements if you like Exchange integration.
I like the form factor and screen of the captivate, but the Bravo is a good solid phone. If you could get rid of MotoBlur it would be even better, but it is possible to ignore blur and enjoy the phone.
I used to think the Captivate was the hands down winner, but it has enough irritations that I like the Bravo for business use. For movies, the Captivate cant be beat.

dude, the Captivate is packed full of problems. the biggest downside is that it shuts off by itself. Unless you are a real tech wiz, I highly suggest you pick something else in the Galaxy S family. The vibrant is a good start.

get the MOTOROLA BRAVO!
Look at the Motorola Bravo benchmark scores!!
engadget(DOT)com/photos/motorola-mb520-kobe-benchmark-scores/#3285039
It's tons higher than the Samsung Captivate's scores! I have no clue how but it is.
I have a bravo and I'm quite proud of it knowing how much better it is than all of the other phones And it runs so fast! It's almost as good as the Droid X..., but just think, when it gets 2.2, it will TOWER over other phones. And 2.2 will be released for the phone the 1st quarter of 2010. Motorola doesn't know how to advertise phones, this phone is MUCH more powerful than it seems!!!
GET IT!!

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Look at the Motorola Bravo benchmark scores!!
engadget(DOT)com/photos/motorola-mb520-kobe-benchmark-scores/#3285039
It's tons higher than the Samsung Captivate's scores! I have no clue how but it is.
I have a bravo and I'm quite proud of it knowing how much better it is than all of the other phones And it runs so fast! It's almost as good as the Droid X..., but just think, when it gets 2.2, it will TOWER over other phones. And 2.2 will be released for the phone the 1st quarter of 2010. Motorola doesn't know how to advertise phones, this phone is MUCH more powerful than it seems!!!
GET IT!!
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Just because the benchmark scores are higher doesn't make it a better phone. I use them as reference for seeing how good a phone is but I don't think too much of them.
I might go to the AT&T store and try the Bravo out for myself. But there's that rumored Motorola phone with the Tegra 2. Should I hold out for that?

Well yea, true.
The benchmark scores are a big deal though, I mean it shows you how powerful the phone is, but the Captivate does have a AMOLED screen and it takes HD video..., but I've always known Motorola to make pretty good quality phones.
And yes...that phone will be really awesome if they can find a way for a battery to power all of that stuff! It seems interesting to wait...and you know the more you wait the better things get, and I think it would be interesting if you waited, and if the phone didn't work out or if it was for a different carrier, then you could always go back to these phones, and by then they will be much cheaper!
If you don't wait then I think you should still get the bravo, it's a really nice phone!!

BravoMotorola said:
Look at the Motorola Bravo benchmark scores!!
engadget(DOT)com/photos/motorola-mb520-kobe-benchmark-scores/#3285039
It's tons higher than the Samsung Captivate's scores! I have no clue how but it is.
I have a bravo and I'm quite proud of it knowing how much better it is than all of the other phones And it runs so fast! It's almost as good as the Droid X..., but just think, when it gets 2.2, it will TOWER over other phones. And 2.2 will be released for the phone the 1st quarter of 2010. Motorola doesn't know how to advertise phones, this phone is MUCH more powerful than it seems!!!
GET IT!!
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I suggest that you do some research in the captivate forum. 1036 quadrant score? If my Galaxy S would score that low I would be worried. I rarely get lower than 2200 quadrant score, personal record is 2504 by the way... only need a lag fix app and preferrably a custom kernel. the galaxy s series are bad ass phones if you enjoy fiddling a bit with them. cheers!

agreed, so much out there you can do with the captivate, i've had so much fun with this phone. not saying i didnt like the bravo, but i'd choose captivate as of right now

Id still consider the bravo...
Once th xda REALLY gets a hold pf this phone, the Bravo, it will be MUCH more powerful. This thing has the capabilities of clocking the processor to 1ghz. And those scores are with 2.1, 2.2 will double the performance and like I said, thats coming soon! I rooted mine and was able to somewhat over clock, got it up to like 1400...but I can't wait until 2.2. It will be an awesome phone. But yea, stock Bravo to stock Galaxy S...Bravo wins. So I'm guessing over powered Galaxy S to over powered Bravo, the Bravo will easily win.

I mentioned this in another thread here, but this is my first smartphone, coming from a Moto RAZR. Two weeks later, I'm not sure how I hung onto that dinosaur for so long. I like the Bravo and will keep it. It may feel like my RAZR in six months, but for now it's a huge leap.

Tis true, you would have to be a crazy to even put the bravo in the same class as the captivate.. Captivate by a longshot wins..

Anyone here go from X to INC?

I do love my X, but I have grown a little tired of the size and form factor. I am a little worried I might be disappointed with the battery life and a possible resale value on the INC if I do make the switch.
Anyone had a good experience going to the INC form the X?

I haven't had an X myself but I don't know why you should be concerned about resale value..you're using the phone.
The form factor of the DX sucks IMO, it's bulky and ugly.
The Incredible's screen is much nicer quality too, even the SLCD version. When comparing the screen sizes it's like quantity vs. quality.
If you're into custom ROMs and such, the INC is a great phone.

SynbiosVyse said:
I haven't had an X myself but I don't know why you should be concerned about resale value..you're using the phone.
The form factor of the DX sucks IMO, it's bulky and ugly.
The Incredible's screen is much nicer quality too, even the SLCD version. When comparing the screen sizes it's like quantity vs. quality.
If you're into custom ROMs and such, the INC is a great phone.
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Only thinking about resale to help me buy a new phone when some newer versions come out (I had used the new every 2, even though its gone now, on X release date).

r3dlined said:
I am a little worried I might be disappointed with the battery life and a possible resale value on the INC if I do make the switch.
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I can assure you not to worry about the resale value because, INC has a higher resale value than DX. INC is about $152 while DX is only about $96.
Check it out here!
https://www.trade-in.vzw.com/Home.aspx

fortesquieu said:
I can assure you not to worry about the resale value because, INC has a higher resale value than DX. INC is about $152 while DX is only about $96.
Check it out here!
https://www.trade-in.vzw.com/Home.aspx
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Hrmm I wonder why that is. I have been trying to look at what people are selling these for in the forums.

I had the x and switched to the dinc. HTC does a way better job with Android if you ask me. The community does much better with HTC devices as well. Sense is a must have for me as well.
Even though the evo sold mass amount of phones, I think its too big. I the x was just as big and drove me crazy. I like the size of the dinc. With the evos 1500 mAh battery in my dinc, I can last all day no problem.
Sent from my incredible using the XDA app

I had an X and returned it for an Incredible. Part of the reason was because the Incredible was free and the X had cost me $200. That said, the Incredible feels faster, even with slightly slower hardware, thanks to HTC's superior software. Motorola's software package is pretty terrible.

I made that switch. The battery life is definitely worse on the incredible. I missed the big screen at first. Made the incredible seem extra small coming from the X. I have an slcd incredible and even that screen seems to have much more contrast than the Droid x. I like running cyanogenmod and custom kernels so im enjoying the incredible.

codyppc said:
I had the x and switched to the dinc. HTC does a way better job with Android if you ask me. The community does much better with HTC devices as well. Sense is a must have for me as well.
Even though the evo sold mass amount of phones, I think its too big. I the x was just as big and drove me crazy. I like the size of the dinc. With the evos 1500 mAh battery in my dinc, I can last all day no problem.
Sent from my incredible using the XDA app
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Wait a minute! The Evo battery fits the DInc? Please confirm!

I'm actually confused myself. On htcpedia there is the 1500mah for $40 for the incredible .... but the 1500mah for the evo is $30... are they the same and does it matter?
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Wait a minute! The Evo battery fits the DInc? Please confirm!
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Yes.
/10 char

X might be a nice phone but with a locked bootloader that's harder to get in than Fort knox...no thanks I will stick with my Incredible

I went from an Incredible to an X back to the Incredible
The X had nothing but issues, and screen wasn't nearly as gorgeous as the AMOLED one.
The Sense UI is the best UI you can get for Android, in my opinion hands down the best.
The hardware of the Incredible feels faster too like another poster said, on the X my friend and I were in a parking garage waiting to get a GPS signal, i pulled my Incredible out and mine found our location when the X was still looking for 10 more mins.
The X is also too tall, it doesn't use the right screen ratio like the EVO and ThunderBolt will.
The developer community is the best on EVO/Incredible vs Droid 1/2/X
and I also develop themes for Incredible which i'll be moving on to ThunderBolt

I just got an inc keeping my x to try this out. Only two things so far I don't like:
-can see the touchscreen sensors on a white background(emails or web usually)
-touch screen isn't quite as accurate as the x
-there was a hair under the glass screen. Looks like the screen isn't that tight around the body. Compressed air blew it right out though.
On a positive sense KILLS blur! The overall feel is great, better widgets, comfortable formfactor.

I had an X until 2 weeks ago. I miss it... The screen size is enough for me to be trying to get it back. I have BIG hands and I could fly texting on my X but on this, Im hitting backspace more than any other key, even with auto correct. The reason I traded was to be able to customize more which is definitely better. Another issue is with games. The Inc is slow to respond and it glitches and pauses all the time playing homerun battle 3d. The X NEVER did that. I don't know, they both have their positives and negatives but my hands alone are the reason I'm trying to trade back to an X. BUT I will come back to HTC when the Thunderbolt comes out. NO DOUBT, cause sense destroys blur. always had to use Luancherpro on the X but never on the Inc because of the custom roms...

r3dlined said:
I just got an inc keeping my x to try this out. Only two things so far I don't like:
-can see the touchscreen sensors on a white background(emails or web usually)
-touch screen isn't quite as accurate as the x
-there was a hair under the glass screen. Looks like the screen isn't that tight around the body. Compressed air blew it right out though.
On a positive sense KILLS blur! The overall feel is great, better widgets, comfortable formfactor.
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What do you mean by the touch screen isn't as accurate? My friend and my cousin both have the X, my brother has the Fascinate, and I have the Incredible. I've used all 3 phones extensively and in my experience, the X has the least responsive touch screen of all. Do you mean accuracy as in trying to click on small links on web pages or something? If that's the case it might just be because the screen is smaller; if you're having trouble you could try highlighting the link or button that you want to click with the trackpad.

re x
i have the droid incredible and i bought the droid x on the week it came out.
Immiatlely i was dissappointed at the same time some things were great.
The low audio on the navigation even with the windows up made it unusable with turn by turn directions... im sure they fixed this.
The ****ty Moto UI = **** sammitch.
The below average quality of the lcd, it looked washed out and bland compared to my incredible.
The large 4.3 inch screen was awesome to surf on.
it was thin for a large phone.
It was new.
I have had many phones in the past and none of them gave me the same kind of user experience as HTC and sadly the iphone.
If i was technically retarded and was an old woman i would have kept my iphone..
But nobody besides HTC has made a better phone AND UI...
Samsung UI = **** , hardware = ok, software updates = ****
Motorola UI = **** see above
LG = **** **** and more ****
Sony = erickson = ****
nokia = failing ball of **** sammitch.. check their stocks.
Blackberry = corporate fail, good comm device.. everything else is 10 years behind.
iphone = boring plus your instantly enrolled in a group of 10 year olds and wanna be tech folks ... and mothers...any phone an old woman is comfortable using is a phone i do not want.

Well I had to trade the INC back because there was dust collecting under the screen. I am absolutely in LOVE with the phone compared to the X. But the big question I can't decide on now is:
Do I sell my X and go buy an INC retail so I at least have a 1 year warranty on it or buy one used and hope for the best (buying a new one would probably cost me 230 or so).

brandon2x said:
I had an X until 2 weeks ago. I miss it... The screen size is enough for me to be trying to get it back. I have BIG hands and I could fly texting on my X but on this, Im hitting backspace more than any other key, even with auto correct. The reason I traded was to be able to customize more which is definitely better. Another issue is with games. The Inc is slow to respond and it glitches and pauses all the time playing homerun battle 3d. The X NEVER did that. I don't know, they both have their positives and negatives but my hands alone are the reason I'm trying to trade back to an X. BUT I will come back to HTC when the Thunderbolt comes out. NO DOUBT, cause sense destroys blur. always had to use Luancherpro on the X but never on the Inc because of the custom roms...
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Yeah games was the only thing, but I haven't played one game on my X except for paper toss. Not such a big deal to me.

I started on an X... rooted it, ROMed it (to the extent that it can be, anyway), and tried to be patient while the devs cracked the boot...and got tired of waiting. I traded it to a friend straight up for an AMOLED DInc after 3 months, and seriously, there's no comparison. I love the freedom to load CM, or Ruby, or SkyRaider on my phone. I love the ability to remap the soft keys on my HTC or use QuickDesk or PowerStrip (neither of them can be done on the X due to the locking down of the hard keys by Moto).
The only two things that I miss about the X are the bigger screen, which I really liked, and the fact that Moto's build quality is very good (it always has been), but that is it. I'll never buy another motorola product ever again unless I hear that it is open- and not because I'm some sort of super-dev, either- simply because I get better support from the dev community whose ROMs I run when I have a problem than I've ever gotten from Moto or Verizon.
The X had pretty impressive specs, but it was absolutely weighted down under Blur... SOOOO slow. I didn't even realize how slow it was until I rooted and ROMed it using rubiX, which is truly an awesome ROM considering how locked the X is, but even then it really had a lot of stupid issues (random rebooting, etc.). Then once I found out that I couldn't connect to the 802.1x wifi at my school (a known motorola issue which STILL has yet to be fixed on the DX and D2), it was over.
I've gone DInc and never regretted it.
As far as the screen, I really think that SLCD vs. AMOLED is personal preference. The colors on AMOLED are suuuuper saturated, very "thick" looking to my eyes. I don't mind SLCD screen colors or look at all, but they're definitely toned down compared to AMOLED.
What about the processor speed? Well, both of them have 1gHz processors, and with the current battery technology we have right now, I really wouldn't want much more than a that- anything faster just eats battery, really. I get some lulz from all the spec queens out there who OC their phones to 1.5 and higher, and who have to have the latest dual-core processors- they're going to spend their whole lives plugged in to the wall cuz their batteries won't last 6 hours, and then complain about bad battery life. My 1gHz snapdragon loads pages, flash, and videos from the web with no problem. I've seen the AnandTech reviews about the DX's processor being slightly faster than the DInc's, but then you have to consider Blur and (REALLY) crappy Moto software and bloat (VZW navigator, Visual Voicemail, City ID, etc.) slowing everything down again. My CM7 / ADW EX DInc is hella snappy, and I get through almost 36 hours per charge (HTC Imagio 1700mAh battery) with frequent use. No OC/UCing, totally stock.
I AM looking forward to LTE tho. That should be a real improvement. Anyway, I'm off the soapbox. Hope this helped? I dunno. I'm sittin here drinkin coffee and saw this thread. Good luck.
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