I'm new to the forums. I can't decide yet which phone should i choose. Though i know here is Galaxys forum, but i'm glad to listen to your advices.
1.Screen SAMOLED VS 4.3 inch
2.GPU 540>530 I9000 is better But i wanna know how 540 much better than 530. Is that a large gap or just small?
3.Do you think that i9000 looks like a iphone? Droid x looks much better than i9000 Just outward appearance.
4.What about the cpu?
Plz help me to make a choice between two good devices THX a lot~~
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now this is what i call a decent debate
I personally would not choose the Moto Droid X even though it is slightly superior to SGS i9000
because the shape of the phone is really akward, it's not slick in design.
also the first release is only on CDMA
they are not planning a GSM release until much later this year or next year, so that was out of the question.
I needed a phone now.
so the SGS i9000 was the obvious choice for me
but if you can wait, and you don't mind the ackward square pregnan Boxed design, and you don't need GSM then Droid X is the better phone.
How is the Droid X superior to the i9000? It falls below on every aspect, except for the CPU itself which is pretty much the same.
freelo123- CPU is about the same for both, traditional Cortex A8 with a few tweaks from the respective manufacturers.
GPU.... the SGX540 is stronger than the 530 by a factor of 2 or more. Definetly not a small gap.
droid has the 8 mpix camera
larger screen 4.3"
Cellular_Networks: CDMA800, CDMA1900
Cellular: Data+Links: cdmaOne, CDMA2000 1xRTT, CDMA2000 1xEV-DO Rel. 0, CDMA2000 1xEV-DO Rev A
that's about it
Out of all of those, only the camera is a real advantage.
Screen size should be chosen in proportion to the desired device size.
Cellular neworks... well, you can't expect a GSM device to be a CMDA one, right?
AllGamer said:
droid has the 8 mpix camera
larger screen 4.3"
Cellular_Networks: CDMA800, CDMA1900
Cellular: Data+Links: cdmaOne, CDMA2000 1xRTT, CDMA2000 1xEV-DO Rel. 0, CDMA2000 1xEV-DO Rev A
that's about it
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People get way too caught up on the amount of megapixels.
3-5 is pretty much optimum for a phone because there are just physical limits to the size of the sensor and lens on a phone so pumping the amount of megapixels up just makes the quality go down even though you get a better resolution.
Just marketing, I'd rather have a lower amount megapixels and better quality.
i like hte i9000 better!
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droid has the 8 mpix camera
larger screen 4.3"
Cellular_Networks: CDMA800, CDMA1900
Cellular: Data+Links: cdmaOne, CDMA2000 1xRTT, CDMA2000 1xEV-DO Rel. 0, CDMA2000 1xEV-DO Rev A
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The i9000 is obviously better then the droid x spec wise..
1) megapixels are insignificant...it just gives you more blurred out objects which you zoom in.if I resize my 5mp to 8mp it will looks the same pretty much..we need better lenses and sensors if we expect betetr quality pictures with more megapixels >.>
2) 4.3 inch screen for some people is too big..would a 20" screen on a phone be better? but some do like the bigger phone screens..either way no one can argue 0.3 inch screen size increase does not outweigh a Super AMOLED...
3) Cellular networks varies as the Verizon version of I9000 will have cdma in it lol
Now if you look at the other specs the I9000 is clearly superior from GPU to CPU..yes CPU too...why do I say that? well the reason why Hummingbird was created was Samsung was told that the OMAP is the best that there could be with an A8 cortex chip..and to prove it wrong they teamed up with Intrisity to create a better CPU using the A8 Cortex...so yes the Hummingbird is a superior CPU to the OMAP by itself..
I think the best comparison of the screen and screen size is what sort of response you get when you show your phone to someone who doesn't know phone specs.
SGS: Woah, that screen is amazing! (Actually impressed)
DroidX/Evo: Woah, that thing is huge! (Looks nice, but I wouldn't want to carry that)
Says it all, I think!
Although personally, the bigger the screen size the better as long as I can manage to fit it in my pocket!
Droid X advantage:
1.flash
2.the aesthetics, ( it feels premium compare to i9000)
the build quality seems to be better, at least that's what it makes you feel ( which is all it matters anyways)
TO me, the most important thing is the asthetics. the looks of i9000 make you wonder what Samsung designers were thinking/doing!!!
They are paid to design, not to copy, I suppose, but even if you decided to copy, why would they copy first gen iphone?????
It's extremely maddening!!!!!!!!!
But I still like my vibrant. Maybe I'll sell mine if Droid X has a GMS version
monksorlo said:
Droid X advantage:
1.flash
2.the aesthetics, ( it feels premium compare to i9000)
the build quality seems to be better, at least that's what it makes you feel ( which is all it matters anyways)
TO me, the most important thing is the asthetics. the looks of i9000 make you wonder what Samsung designers were thinking/doing!!!
They are paid to design, not to copy, I suppose, but even if you decided to copy, why would they copy first gen iphone?????
It's extremely maddening!!!!!!!!!
But I still like my vibrant. Maybe I'll sell mine if Droid X has a GMS version
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I wouldn't exactly call the i9000 bad build quality..if you take it apart or look at the take apart video you will notice that...the downside of the galaxy s being plasticy was actually intended...this is what makes the phone so light (its one of the lightest if not the lightest)...of course they probably should have made an option for a metal version for those that wanted...but you an always get a case if necessary since its so light and thin anyways..
Either way on the stress tests the Galaxy S lives through the most common things like being dropped from your hand to cement or cut with a knife...But if you plan to drop it from a 3rd floor window onto cement or block bullets with it well I can't guarantee anything...
As for copying the iphone design...personally I don't care...I mean why don't we just flame all the car manufacturers for putting wheels on cars...I mean thats so copying cave men >.>...personally I don't even see how it copies the iphone (aside from the vibrant, but thats t-mobiles choice)...the iphone is not the first one to come up with that look..they are just the first to make that look "popular"
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I wouldn't exactly call the i9000 bad build quality
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I'd agree with that. I'd heard a lot about the bad build quality before getting my SGS, but haven't really thought that's entirely fair. It's well put-together and feels solid - I don't worry it's going to fall apart or anything. You could, however, argue that the plastic feels less premium than, say, an aluminium or even soft-touch plastic back might feel.
My friend's HD2 has more heft to it and perhaps feels more "premium", but the SGS is lighter and doesn't really feel like it's flimsy, so not such a huge issue to me.
Everyone does mistake it for an iPhone, though, and I do think it's designed to emulate one - it's a black slate with noticeably rounded corners, a chrome bezel and one hardware button centred under the screen. That's just like (previous versions of) the iPhone. TouchWiz also has a dock with 4 icons, like the iPhone, and adds coloured squares behind application icons, which makes them look more like the square icons on the iPhone.
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Everyone does mistake it for an iPhone, though, and I do think it's designed to emulate one - it's a black slate with noticeably rounded corners, a chrome bezel and one hardware button centred under the screen. That's just like (previous versions of) the iPhone. TouchWiz also has a dock with 4 icons, like the iPhone, and adds coloured squares behind application icons, which makes them look more like the square icons on the iPhone.
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Yeas I won't deny it..but look at the LG prada KE850..you can also claim the iphone copied them >.>...In the end we can't exactly say the SGS is ugly..so as long as it looks nice..I don't care who copies who..if it matters to the other company they'll settle it in lawsuits..simple as that...
I already gave pretty much the most detailed explenation about why the Galaxy S is plastic, and why "plastic" doesn't mean "bad build quality".
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7385050&postcount=8
This is so true
same reason why I downgrated from my HTC Athena to the SGS i9000
it might be just 1" difference (from 5" to 4") but in the pocket, holy crap, it makes a HUGE! difference
so, i have really no idea why some guys go and do those huge peanuts enlargement... no idea how they can fit it inside the pants pockets
RyanZA said:
I think the best comparison of the screen and screen size is what sort of response you get when you show your phone to someone who doesn't know phone specs.
SGS: Woah, that screen is amazing! (Actually impressed)
DroidX/Evo: Woah, that thing is huge! (Looks nice, but I wouldn't want to carry that)
Says it all, I think!
Although personally, the bigger the screen size the better as long as I can manage to fit it in my pocket!
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AllGamer said:
This is so true
same reason why I downgrated from my HTC Athena to the SGS i9000
it might be just 1" difference (from 5" to 4") but in the pocket, holy crap, it makes a HUGE! difference
so, i have really no idea why some guys go and do those huge peanuts enlargement... no idea how they can fit it inside the pants pockets
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They need something in their pants thats huge to compensate the lack of size of something else that also happens to be in their pants...lol..sorry couldn't resist >.>
if the droid x had super amoled, i would have gotten that without hesitation. But ill enjoy my extra 8gb and better gpu of the sgs for now.
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if the droid x had super amoled, i would have gotten that without hesitation. But ill enjoy my extra 8gb and better gpu of the sgs for now.
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our SGS 16 GB version is even better
AllGamer said:
droid has the 8 mpix camera
larger screen 4.3"
Cellular_Networks: CDMA800, CDMA1900
Cellular: Data+Links: cdmaOne, CDMA2000 1xRTT, CDMA2000 1xEV-DO Rel. 0, CDMA2000 1xEV-DO Rev A
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I think, not only, this is flawed because you are saying that the fact that it's CDMA makes it better (this seriously depends on the user, if you travel internationally, to many people, CDMA is worse for you, even if it gives you advantages). Additionally, if you are all about CDMA, then you can get a Verizon or Sprint, Sprint will be 4G which surely trumps this (though you pay a $10 tax).
gTen said:
2) 4.3 inch screen for some people is too big..would a 20" screen on a phone be better? but some do like the bigger phone screens..either way no one can argue 0.3 inch screen size increase does not outweigh a Super AMOLED...
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Total slippery slope argument. So, a 1" device must be better than a 4.3" because 20" is so bad...after that you are too generic, some people would, in fact, take an Evo's screen above SGS if they would get rid of their 30fps limit and whatever the color limit is (65k?)...
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our SGS 16 GB version is even better
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He said "extra", meaning he has the 16GB, Droid X comes with 8GB.
@OP I wanted the Dell Streak until I saw the Galaxy S. The 4" display was a beauty, the processor was exactly what I needed. The Droid X will have better I/O from what I've read, that's my biggest complaint on the Galaxy. I'd prefer the Super Amoled in 4.3", but I can understand anyone who goes for size. The main draw back is it's power needs, 4.0" is already pretty hungry for juice. I don't think you'd be disappointed with either device.
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Why have you chosen the Galaxy or why will you be choosing the Galaxy rather than the Evo? Is the better screen tech your primary reason?
I ask this after being an Evo owner over the past month and now currently testing (playing with) the iPhone 4. I loved the Evo but my unit was defective and so I'm considering getting a new one at the end of July (hoping new batches ship out then) or one of the SGS versions; Verizon, At&t and then T-Mobile in that order is what I'm in favor of as far as which SGS.
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Why have you chosen the Galaxy or why will you be choosing the Galaxy rather than the Evo? Is the better screen tech your primary reason?
I ask this after being an Evo owner over the past month and now currently testing (playing with) the iPhone 4. I loved the Evo but my unit was defective and so I'm considering getting a new one at the end of July (hoping new batches ship out then) or one of the SGS versions; Verizon, At&t and then T-Mobile in that order is what I'm in favor of as far as which SGS.
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Evo 3D power sux, SGS is better eot.
I can't use the EVO 4G because I'm in the UK and we don't have any CDMA networks. Otherwise, I would rather have the EVO 4G for its screen - the Galaxy S' has better contrast, but it has a PenTile matrix, meaning it doesn't have the full complement of the three RGB subpixels per pixel (it only has two), with consequences for sharpness.
For me, it's a decision between the Desire and the Galaxy S, both of which have AMOLED screens, so I can't avoid PenTile. The Galaxy S' screen is definitely better than the Desire's, though, and it also has a better GPU (and, it seems, CPU) and a proper multi-touch digitiser that doesn't get easily confused.
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I can't use the EVO 4G because I'm in the UK and we don't have any CDMA networks. Otherwise, I would rather have the EVO 4G for its screen - the Galaxy S' has better contrast, but it has a PenTile matrix, meaning it doesn't have the full complement of the three RGB subpixels per pixel (it only has two), with consequences for sharpness.
For me, it's a decision between the Desire and the Galaxy S, both of which have AMOLED screens, so I can't avoid PenTile. The Galaxy S' screen is definitely better than the Desire's, though, and it also has a better GPU (and, it seems, CPU) and a proper multi-touch digitiser that doesn't get easily confused.
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Thanks for your input guys! Since you mention the screens, how about the Evo only having 16bit 65K color?
I have yet to choose a new phone but I dumped the EVO after two weeks for three reasons. The 30fps cap, the purple tint, and most importantly the screen only displays 65k colors.
These three were together made me take the phone back.
Supermighty said:
I have yet to choose a new phone but I dumped the EVO after two weeks for three reasons. The 30fps cap, the purple tint, and most importantly the screen only displays 65k colors.
These three were together made me take the phone back.
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All a bit confusing about the Evo now that I look into it bit. Take a look at this post claiming that it's not 16bit: http://androidforums.com/htc-evo-4g...-million-both-phones-199-a-3.html#post1091681
I'm waiting to have my launch day Evo returned to Radio Shack (manager is trying to get me in past the 30 day mark with his Sprint rep). I thought the screen was beautiful and just had issues with the screen raising and a few others build issues.
I need to touch the Galaxy before I know for sure. The Droid X could have been good but the large bump on the back and that ugly 80's camera flash remind me of how ugly I thought the first Droid keyboard was. I'm sure we have a lot of slick devices coming out later this year but it's already a tough call for what to have right now.......
AshMa said:
... The Droid X could have been good but the large bump on the back and that ugly 80's camera flash remind me of how ugly I thought the first Droid keyboard was.......
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Yep, I don't understand how Moto can keep making such butt-ugly phones. Between the ugly Moto design and the ugly Verizon branding, the Droid X is a phone only a true nerd can love
I had a google nexus, which hardware-wise is pretty simillar to the evo.
The snapdragon processor is pretty good, but samsung's hummingbird is better (and is produced at 45nm, less power consumption)
The real tie-breaker for me was the GPU.
The Adreno200 in the snapdragon SOC is pretty weak, if i need to put it in proportions, the SGX540 in the Galaxy S is around 3 times stronger, possibly even a bit more.
Screen- while the evo's screen is sharper (on paper), 65k colors and low contrast ratio wipe that advantage completely. The difference is just too big.
Now the most important point- the evo is a real battery -hogging monster, it can barely last for a day and a half in very moderate use, while the SGS can probably last for twice the time under the same use.
I'm not too a fan of dragging around chargers and backup batteries, don't know about you.
I'd turn my eyes over to the droid X, better hardware (TI OMAP 1GHZ+SGX530>Qualcomm Snapdragon, any day), better battery time, probably a better camera as well. Motorla made a nice comeback.
I'd make the prime options the Epic 4G or Droid X.
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the Droid X is a phone only a true nerd can love
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Right!!!! When Moto made the Razor they got it all right in the looks dept.....now they keep bringing us boring/ugly styling one after another.
Pika007 said:
I had a google nexus, which hardware-wise is pretty simillar to the evo.
The snapdragon processor is pretty good, but samsung's hummingbird is better (and is produced at 45nm, less power consumption)
The real tie-breaker for me was the GPU.
The Adreno200 in the snapdragon SOC is pretty weak, if i need to put it in proportions, the SGX540 in the Galaxy S is around 3 times stronger, possibly even a bit more.
Screen- while the evo's screen is sharper (on paper), 65k colors and low contrast ratio wipe that advantage completely. The difference is just too big.
Now the most important point- the evo is a real battery -hogging monster, it can barely last for a day and a half in very moderate use, while the SGS can probably last for twice the time under the same use.
I'm not too a fan of dragging around chargers and backup batteries, don't know about you.
I'd turn my eyes over to the droid X, better hardware (TI OMAP 1GHZ+SGX530>Qualcomm Snapdragon, any day), better battery time, probably a better camera as well. Motorla made a nice comeback.
I'd make the prime options the Epic 4G or Droid X.
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I see your points seem valid to me. But personally I think the Epic is too thick with the keyboard (plus Swype is all the typing speed I need in my pocket). If the Epic came without the keyboard and if the screen really is that great; I'd be down to deciding between it and the iPhone because Sprint service with the Evo for me has been wonderful unlike this stupid At&t on the iPhone.
We all seem to get so focused on the specs that may not matter all that much? I mean these are phones and not desktops of say 15 years ago when we would research the heck out of a purchase because we knew we were going to keep it for at least 2, 3 or more years........
Anyhow, I really just don't see the bad in the Evo display I have and it's right here being matched up to my iPhone 4. I'm going to do something that no tech blogs ever seem to do. I'm going to load up both these phones, with the exact same high res images and then see how they look to me. Wish I could test the Galaxy along with these two phones, but I will have returned the Evo by the time I get my hands on a galaxy........
Because im not on sprint
And even if i were still on sprint i wouldnt take evo because of the poor battery life as well as the inferior screen quality.
Why are we focused on specs?
We want games to work on our newly-bought super-high-end phone. That's all.
At first there were the HTC devices with a qualcomm MSM7XXX. OK cpu, weak gpu.
Then came along the droid/milestone. ok cpu, ok+ gpu.
Then the wave of snapdragon devices- Very strong cpu, weak gpu.
We all waited for a balanced solution that will let us have a strong cpu and gpu, with android.
Untill the galaxy S, Droid X and Milestone XT720 come along, the iphone was the only balanced device.
About the displays- it's not that the evo display is bad. It's just that both the samsung and the galaxy s are way better. The first time i loaded a high-res video to my galaxy s side by side with my brother's milestone (which is regarded as a device with a very good screen by itself), my mind was blown. The difference is as clear as day.
I can say this with confidence-
Sharpness is overrated. We are talking about 3-4" screens here, not home 50" displays. As soon as 640X360 resolution over 3.5" was passed, the matter started to become pretty ridiculous. You need a 10X magnification to actually see pixels, i doubt your eyes have that.
On the other hand, be it a 1000" screen or a 1" screen, the difference in contrast/colors in general is always visible.
It might not be the "sharpest" screen around, but it is clearly the display with best colors around.
For someone who uses his phone as a media player a lot, this was VERY important to me.
BuddyLee said:
Because im not on sprint
And even if i were still on sprint i wouldnt take evo because of the poor battery life as well as the inferior screen quality.
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That's what I forgot in my last post; are you guys saying that the SGS has much better battery life than the Evo??? From all the comments on the thread here about first thoughts, it seems that folks aren't doing any better.
On the Evo board, I see all the same types of comments and the same range as I do here. Some Evo owners say they can't make it a day and some say they can make it a day and a half and even 3 days, after make half a dozen changes to the device. I know what my Evo battery life has been like and it's not anywhere near as good as this iPhone I'm trying out or even as good as my HD2 was. So I do have a feeling that I'll try the Galaxy and come right back to this board, asking about how to get better battery life.
I just love this device the screen is awesome!!
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Pika007 said:
Why are we focused on specs?
We want games to work on our newly-bought super-high-end phone. That's all.
At first there were the HTC devices with a qualcomm MSM7XXX. OK cpu, weak gpu.
Then came along the droid/milestone. ok cpu, ok+ gpu.
Then the wave of snapdragon devices- Very strong cpu, weak gpu.
We all waited for a balanced solution that will let us have a strong cpu and gpu, with android.
Untill the galaxy S, Droid X and Milestone XT720 come along, the iphone was the only balanced device.
About the displays- it's not that the evo display is bad. It's just that both the samsung and the galaxy s are way better. The first time i loaded a high-res video to my galaxy s side by side with my brother's milestone (which is regarded as a device with a very good screen by itself), my mind was blown. The difference is as clear as day.
I can say this with confidence-
Sharpness is overrated. We are talking about 3-4" screens here, not home 50" displays. As soon as 640X360 resolution over 3.5" was passed, the matter started to become pretty ridiculous. You need a 10X magnification to actually see pixels, i doubt your eyes have that.
On the other hand, be it a 1000" screen or a 1" screen, the difference in contrast/colors in general is always visible.
It might not be the "sharpest" screen around, but it is clearly the display with best colors around.
For someone who uses his phone as a media player a lot, this was VERY important to me.
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I see where you're coming from! I love games and I tried NOVA on the iPhone 4 two days ago and I was blown away. But I'm just not into gaming on phones and without real controls even if I had the time to play games as often as I'd like to, it just doesn't appeal to me much.
My HD2 came with transformers and I loaded it onto the Evo's sd card. I am a filmmaker and all I can say is that it looked and played perfectly on the Evo. I've heard people say that they watched films on the Evo with terrible results and all I have to say is that any device needs to have the right video format type and bitrate for a specific device (the right encoding app and settings makes all the difference).
I have no doubt the the SGS display is one of the very best if not the very best (it or the iPhone display). BTW' You might want to take a look at this smartphone display review: http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2365915,00.asp
I had not thought of it until I started reading about it here. I'm talking about text not being as clear on the SGS screens. Again, I guess I won't know what these comments are about, until I get to try this phone myself. Some folks say it's a big deal and then others say it's not. Also I guess that has something to do with the "screen door" effect of the SGS display tech?
I guess what I meant about specs was that if any phone can do everything you want it to today and do it well, then that's about all that matters. rather than seeking out the best specs for some type of future proofing that just doesn't make much sense in regards to how quickly phone tech is advancing and how xda folks like us, are going to keep upgrading sooner rather than later. An Example would be people who worry about a phone not having 4G LTE radios now, even though by the time the towers are all in place, those same people, will be moving on to a new phone.
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I just love this device the screen is awesome!!
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Are you having any speed issues and how is your battery life treating you? Also would you say text is as sharp as on other high-end devices?
We being non US does not have the EVO 4G to play with but I have been using a Desire for the last 2 months. The reason why I swapped to the SGS is mainly because of the multitouch screen issue with HTC. Typing with SGS is even better than the iphone which, love it or hate it, were the best in terms of virtual keyboard. However I am disappointed with the speed so far, especially with emails. Hopefully the next firmware address those issues.
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We being non US does not have the EVO 4G to play with but I have been using a Desire for the last 2 months. The reason why I swapped to the SGS is mainly because of the multitouch screen issue with HTC. Typing with SGS is even better than the iphone which, love it or hate it, were the best in terms of virtual keyboard. However I am disappointed with the speed so far, especially with emails. Hopefully the next firmware address those issues.
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After using the iPhone 4 keyboard a lot in the last few days I would have to say yes it is the best tap type touch keyboard. Something about it and I assume the screen tech, make it very good. But the hands down best touch keyboard is Swype hands down which is not on iOS yet. Also the HTC keyboard is also very nice on it's own but also having the voice button on the keyboard is really nice (not sure if the SGS has that as well).
Oh and thanks; I was forgetting about the fact that the rest of the world got the SGS first but no Evo. Sometimes we silly Americans behave as if we are the world.
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It might not be the "sharpest" screen around, but it is clearly the display with best colors around.
For someone who uses his phone as a media player a lot, this was VERY important to me.
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It's a matter of different priorities, yes: the great majority of what I do on my phone is read or write text, so having nice crisp text is important to me. I remember being amazed by how great the text looked on my first 640x480 PDA with ClearType. Conversely, I rarely watch video or look at photos on my phone.
The decision's pretty much taken out of my hands if I want a high-end Android phone in the UK. I would love the iPhone 4's display though.
I'm new to the forums. I can't decide yet which phone should i choose. Though i know here is Galaxys forum, but i'm glad to listen to your advices.
1.Screen SAMOLED VS 4.3 inch
2.GPU 540>530 I9000 is better But i wanna know how 540 much better than 530. Is that a large gap or just small?
3.Do you think that i9000 looks like a iphone? Droid x looks much better than i9000 Just outward appearance.
4.What about the cpu?
Plz help me to make a choice between two good devices THX a lot~~
freelo123 said:
I'm new to the forums. I can't decide yet which phone should i choose. Though i know here is Galaxys forum, but i'm glad to listen to your advices.
1.Screen SAMOLED VS 4.3 inch
2.GPU 540>530 I9000 is better But i wanna know how 540 much better than 530. Is that a large gap or just small?
3.Do you think that i9000 looks like a iphone? Droid x looks much better than i9000 Just outward appearance.
4.What about the cpu?
Plz help me to make a choice between two good devices THX a lot~~
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In my opinion this really comes down to your choice of carriers and like or
dislike for slightly larger screens. Everything else is more or less kind of a wash.
The screens are comparable in quality, many will prefer the SAMOLED due to the
richer colors and better darks. Many will think the LCD on the Droid X is perfectly fine. I had a Nexus one prior to my Droid X and feel that the screens were comparable. Due to personal preference of size I pick the Droid X. I have gorilla hands so the extra space is welcomed when it comes to me using the phone.
As for the graphics processing:
Droid X /w SGX530 (13 MPolys/s, 500Mpx/[email protected])
Samsung I9000 /w SGX540 (28 MPolys/s, 1Gpx/[email protected]
While the 540 chip does kick up the graphics performance by quite a bit I feel that in the current software market it doesnt matter. Most games and emulators work without much of a hitch on the Nexus One which is pretty weak compared to the Droid X graphics, let alone the I9000. The Droid X handles graphics and benchmarks with ease. While the I9000 would play just as well as the Droid X but slam the crap out of it in benchmarks.
My point? Until we get software that actually uses the graphics horsepower we have it makes no difference. My quality of gaming is close to equal to the I9000 and is only slightly better than the Nexus One (Nexus has the occasional hiccup due to slower graphics).
In the end I feel it comes down to carrier preference, screen preference and feature preference. Aesthetics could come into play as well. I really like the way
the Droid X looks and feels.
Both phones do have a huge advantage over te snapdragon powered phones in that they have a whole separate GPU. The TI and hummingbird are basically equal as far as CPU'S te SGS maily pulls ahead bc of te GPU. However, not to slam the HTC phones but both the X and SGS have far superior CPU's compared to snapdragon. I will def say that the build quality of te motorola droid series are second to none. Mostly metal as well they come with guerrilla glass which is much stronger than normal glass found in cell phones. Also when we get the ability on the x i believe that the OC ability will be greater on the x if they original droid says anything about the processors ability. The D1 could have its stock clock speed almost tripled, not to say that the hummingbird cant be done that way either. Te snapdragon is a good CPU as far as application processing goes but doesn't hold a bar to the hummingbird or TI OMAP overall. It really all comes down to user choice. Motorola has shown strong support for the droid series bc the droid 1 has has 3 os upgrades (2.01, 2.1, 2.2) so i think they will continue to support there phones strongly. Good luck in ur choice!!
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freelo123 said:
I'm new to the forums. I can't decide yet which phone should i choose. Though i know here is Galaxys forum, but i'm glad to listen to your advices.
1.Screen SAMOLED VS 4.3 inch
2.GPU 540>530 I9000 is better But i wanna know how 540 much better than 530. Is that a large gap or just small?
3.Do you think that i9000 looks like a iphone? Droid x looks much better than i9000 Just outward appearance.
4.What about the cpu?
Plz help me to make a choice between two good devices THX a lot~~
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It comes down to what you like. I have the Droid X and Droix 1. My Droid was fast but the Droid X speed is amazing. As for the Sanding Galaxy S series they are great phones. A coworker has the T-mo version the Vibrant.
I do think it looks like the iPhone. When my coworker brought it I thought she had moved to Att. The phone seems no faster than my Droid X or even Droid 1. However the SuperAmoled screen is definitely crisper and more Vibrant.
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Is the text crisper? I thought SAMOLED's sub-pixel matrix left a slight color halo around sharp edges, like text (they compensate with beyer color contrast).
Thank you all guys' advises. I do love DROIDX and i believe there is no difference between two good devices. Droid X can run all the apps smoothly just like what I9000 can do. 540 is much better than 530 in data but there is a small gap in actual use.
I'm really disappointed in mto who just put efuse and 530 in droidx..
The eFuse so far has not been an issue at all. What makes you think it will become one?
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What I mean is, the eFuse is not some sort of "OMG you cannot mod this phone because it will brick itself forever!" kind of scenario. Its simply got a locked boot loader, so it will take a bit longer for it to be hacked and for smart people to figure out a way around that. We have root and we have SBF, and the two together gives you the ability to modify just about anything on the DroidX and fix it if you "break" it. So, whats the big deal?
i have the droid x and the samsung vibrant.....both are really nice phones.
the vibrant screen is more...well.....'vibrant', and i actually prefer it to the droid x screen but mine has a bluish tint when brightness is set to low levels.
the vibrant actually has MORE lag than the droid x, especially when opening and closing apps. it's not something you notice on all apps, but sometimes it's ridiculous, especially considering the 'horsepower' of the vibrant. as far as games go, i really don't notice the difference between the two, other than the fact that the vibrant is much more colorful.
yes, the vibrant looks a lot like my iphone 2g. whether that's bad or good is up to you.
the droid x feels MUCH more solidly built and my vibrant already has a minor 'squeak' or two....nothing major though.
for myself, the droid x screen is a bit more visible in direct sunlight.
MOST importantly, verizon has MUCH better coverage where i live now. i spent the weekend out of the city and my vibrant had ZERO signal....makes the choice between the two easier
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i have the droid x and the samsung vibrant.....both are really nice phones.
the vibrant screen is more...well.....'vibrant', and i actually prefer it to the droid x screen but mine has a bluish tint when brightness is set to low levels.
the vibrant actually has MORE lag than the droid x, especially when opening and closing apps. it's not something you notice on all apps, but sometimes it's ridiculous, especially considering the 'horsepower' of the vibrant. as far as games go, i really don't notice the difference between the two, other than the fact that the vibrant is much more colorful.
yes, the vibrant looks a lot like my iphone 2g. whether that's bad or good is up to you.
the droid x feels MUCH more solidly built and my vibrant already has a minor 'squeak' or two....nothing major though.
for myself, the droid x screen is a bit more visible in direct sunlight.
MOST importantly, verizon has MUCH better coverage where i live now. i spent the weekend out of the city and my vibrant had ZERO signal....makes the choice between the two easier
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That's really a nice advise for me. I do love Droid X so so much. Droid X was so cool when i just saw him at the first time. To be honest i dont love the appearance of i9000. So i think i've had the decision.
i don't think you can go wrong with either choice though it looks like you've settled on the droid x. i hope you enjoy it
I think the boot loader/eFuse issue will become more apparent when we get to gingerbread and beyond. Who knows how long or how speedily Moto will support the X. at least with the Galaxy S's you'll have other options.
Regarding the faster app startup on the X, I think it has faster access memory. At lest it send that way.
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Regarding the faster app startup on the X, I think it has faster access memory. At lest it send that way.
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No it doesn't..the Vibrant as is has a bug in the I/O and the RFS system..the community already made a workaround to get it working properly...it gets 2200+ quadrant scores as well with the fix running 2.1 lol
Either way the lag is fixed once you do that I/O fix...my guess is samsung will release an official fix for the I/O as well...
How does TouchWiz 3.0 compare to nijablur?
I would think Froyo 2.2 should see a larger improvement on the Galaxy S compared to Droid X going from 2.1 to 2.2.
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How does TouchWiz 3.0 compare to nijablur?
I would think Froyo 2.2 should see a larger improvement on the Galaxy S compared to Droid X going from 2.1 to 2.2.
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You gotta judge that for yourself..personally I like Touchwiz 3.0 better then sense and motoblur....but thats my personal opinion...some people hate on Touchwiz 3.0 because they don't realize its completely different then the previous Touchwiz...best way is to try it yourself since everyone has their preferences. Most of the hate so far for Touchwiz 3.0 was the "iphonish" look rather then anything else lol
As for improvement, I hope so..with the I/O fix the I9000 gets a 2200+ Quadrant score running 2.1...now Imagine running froyo?!?!? If it hits 5000 I'd wet my pants lol
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You gotta judge that for yourself..personally I like Touchwiz 3.0 better then sense and motoblur....but thats my personal opinion...some people hate on Touchwiz 3.0 because they don't realize its completely different then the previous Touchwiz...best way is to try it yourself since everyone has their preferences. Most of the hate so far for Touchwiz 3.0 was the "iphonish" look rather then anything else lol
As for improvement, I hope so..with the I/O fix the I9000 gets a 2200+ Quadrant score running 2.1...now Imagine running froyo?!?!? If it hits 5000 I'd wet my pants lol
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Its been coming out from multiple sources that this is only because a partitioning tweak being done for the most part. Not saying it isn't a nice phone but comeon. You get one benchmark and all of a sudden its pants wetting time? The Droid X and the Samsung are pretty much right next to each other in real performance.
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Its been coming out from multiple sources that this is only because a partitioning tweak being done for the most part. Not saying it isn't a nice phone but comeon. You get one benchmark and all of a sudden its pants wetting time? The Droid X and the Samsung are pretty much right next to each other in real performance.
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I said if the Galaxy S hits 5000 quadrant score with Froyo then its pants wetting time...
The Droid X is a nice phone yes..BUT the specs on the Galaxy S is a lot higher.
1ghz OMAP(Droid X) < 1ghz Hummingbird(Galaxy S)
SGX530(Droid X) < SGX540(Galaxy S)
SGX530 (13 MPolys/s, 500Mpx/[email protected]) for the handheld mobile market
SGX535 (28 MPolys/s, 500Mpx/[email protected]) - http://www.imgtec.com/partners/NEC.asp http://www2.renesas.com/news/en/archive/0710/0201.html (Intel calls it the GMA 500)
SGX540 (90 MPolys/s, 1Gpx/[email protected], Max Memory Band (GB/s) 4.2GB/s) for handheld high end mobile, portable, MID, UMPC, consumer, and automotive devices
Even the iPhone 4 has a SGX535 which is 2x better gpu then whats in a Droid X...the GPU in the Galaxy S though is sick..it pretty much is better then a PS2 ...
What apps besides a handful of intensive 3D games use the GPU?
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What apps besides a handful of intensive 3D games use the GPU?
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Games, Flash and Video...and once the Gingerbread comes out the whole OS.
none of us will care by then, as we will have moved on to the next 'hot' phone, lol!
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none of us will care by then, as we will have moved on to the next 'hot' phone, lol!
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Gingerbread is gonna come out this fall...but performance wise the Galaxy S is actually pretty good...The Galaxy S is pretty much 3x more powerful then an EVO...so I can easily see it lasting at least a year...if anything will bottleneck this phone for future is the 512mb ram...or if dual cores are implemented will enable better multithreading..but these features will take time to implement...
This is why the Galaxy S is pretty much the best it can get in the specs given and should last at least a year.
Just saw this on Gizmodo and it looks like my replacement for Vibrant. http://gizmodo.com/5725053/samsungs-sgh+i997-uh-why-wasnt-this-awesome-phone-the-new-nexus I know there are some that say they will never buy Samsung again with all the Froyo crap they've pulled but I've had Froyo for a good 2 months now and I'm sure I'll have Gingerbread soon. The only thing that would be better would be a dual-core system.
seems like a minor upgrade, spec wise, and i'm not sure if the bigger screen would fly for me
I like the specs, wish it has dual core and is with T-mobile.
I like the form factor and screen size, but single core?
Don't blame me, blame my keyboard's autocorrection algorithm.
Just means T-Mobile will be coming out with a device like this too. Lets face it.Vibrant is old news already. Hate how you buy the best android device out and 2 weeks later its already old news!
Killing Zombies with my Voodoo Vibrant!
That is so sweet. The amoled plus screen is awsome. Just think of that phone on our network with voodoo. I dont have the link because i just deleted it from my reader, but att is releasing a htc with dual core running at 1000 mhz.
Fear the beard...
Tmobile is getting something with a "+" label on it as well from Samsung:
http://www.tmonews.com/2011/01/two-new-samsungs-on-the-horizon/
Don't know what...
But we are also getting the Tegra 2 LG...
I like the look and I like the specs but I don't think its enough of an upgrade to warrant replacing my vibrant. I HIGHLY doubt its running gingerbread either. Probably 2.2 or god forbid 2.1.
Samsung may have the best screens on the planet but their update schedule is very poor. They're even worse than motorola. 4.5 inches isn't enough to get me to buy another touchwiz device. Show me 4.5 Vanilla android and then we're talking.
Way too big for me. 4.5 would be ridiculously big.
Also, bigger and better screen, combined with a higher spec'd single core cpu. I can only imagine how anemic the battery life is going to be. Not to mention the fact that it's Samsung we're talking about here IE: No updates, ****ty RFS, Touchwiz.
They fooled me once, never again. I don't care if it has a 3d hologram coming out of the screen. NEVER again Samsung!
Too big for me. The Vibrant is pretty much the limit for comfortable one-handed operation for me.
1080p recording. I wonder if we could swap camerras.
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It gets rid of the PenTile Matrix! Thank god. That is the worst feature of the Super AMOLED screen. Nothing like a screen door effect and lower effective resolution to damage a screen. A normal RGB layout will look phenomenal with the Super AMOLED. Now they just need to upgrade the actual resolution. I think a 1280 x 720 resolution on the 4"+ screens would be ideal.
At this point and after the rumors the other day about honeycomb requiring dual core, I wouldn't consider anything without a dual core a worthy upgrade to the vibrant.
Only thing I see this is good for is official froyo, then again we have the leaks anyways and without that crappy rfs. May be a porthole to official gingerbread since the specs other than the screen should be the same, that is is it gets gingergread .
Once again, it has great hardware, but RFS, TouchWiz and the inevitable lack of software support are major turn-offs.
Sent from my frozen yogurt powered Vibrant
I wonder how great super amoled plus is. And that 4.5 inch, damn it.
Yea, a Single Core CPU is not future proof enough. 200MHz is not worth it (probably just an overclocked Hummingbird, Lulz).
If it's only a 512 RAM device then it will have only 326 MB of RAM for the system which isn't enough - not falling for the Vibrant gimmick again.
Moto is releasing a Dual Core 1GB RAM HSPA+ phone on AT&T, though.
I'll probably switch carriers to get that one when it releases.
BTW, thses AT&T phones have 21mbps HSPA+ radios in them, not the 14.4mbps radios in the T-Mobile G2/MT4G. AT&T's HSPA+ network is probably twice to 3x the size of T-Mobile's.
They need to find a way to put 17-1900 mAh batteries in these phones.
Specs and screen sizes going up, with more stuff in them, but battery sizes staying the same. Sorry, I'm not going to depend on an SoC change to give decent battery life on the same battery size going from device to device...
god damn 4.5? are they trying to turn a phone into a tablet or something?
how large is vibrants screen?
my friends already tell me why the hell i need such a big screen for the vibrant.. but 4.5.. this phone's for giants only it looks sleek though.
Vibrant is 4" and the Dell Streak is 5" so 4.5 isn't all that big. It's barely bigger than the HD2/HD7 and if you compare the screen sizes on the HD2 to the Vibrant it isn't all that big.
I actually prefer 4" as the max for a WVGA screen since that resolution doesn't tend to look that good on devices with very large screens...
This is a thread to share our thoughs on how would we like our next G2 device to be.
I would love another htc G1 sequel, I'm really feeling these new metal designs, htc keep it up. Would love a G3 with near the same design as the G2 and similar to the htc surround with an 3.8 screen, these are the 2 htc designs I love the most. Also the trackpad should be kept with the design, an 8 megapixel cam wouldn't sound bad either and the same hinge design, except with a loose one, make this one tight htc LOL. Btw I been hearing they fixed the hinge already in the newer batches this year not that I care but I been hearing that a lot.
So what you guys think?
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This is a thread to share our thoughs on how would we like our next G2 device to be.
I would love another htc G1 sequel, I'm really feeling these new metal designs, htc keep it up. Would love a G3 with near the same design as the G2 and similar to the htc surround with an 3.8 screen, these are the 2 htc designs I love the most. Also the trackpad should be kept with the design, an 8 megapixel cam wouldn't sound bad either and the same hinge design, except with a loose one, make this one tight htc LOL. Btw I been hearing they fixed the hinge already in the newer batches this year not that I care but I been hearing that a lot.
So what you guys think?
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I would love to have a G3 but in a 4.3screen and frontal camera and capable speed of 21mps...
I'd like it to print money, grant up to 3 wishes, be indestructible, and turn into a jet and take me to an island it builds.
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I would love to have a G3 but in a 4.3screen and frontal camera and capable speed of 21mps...
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Yea with the keyboard tho cuz a G3 without a keyboard is not a G3 LOL about the 4.3 I doubt it cuz if its a keyboard phone the screen wouldnt go as big as 4.3 especially htc, cuz imagine how heavy would it be lol and that's the only thing I dislike about the G2
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I would love to have a G3 but in a 4.3screen and frontal camera and capable speed of 21mps...
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I'd like it to print money, grant up to 3 wishes, be indestructible, and turn into a jet and take me to an island it builds.
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Not a bad idea imagine if a phone could do that! Id be the happiest man on earth lmao
What about a completely metal phone? Absolutely everything, even the keys on the keyboard.
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To be honest. I think the G2 from a design standpoint is one of the best. My imaginary G3 would have:
The same type of aluminum design, but as thin as it can be
A Five-row keyboard (number keys!)
A front-facing camera for video chat
4 inch Super AMOLED 2 display (perfect size, not too big, but definitely not small)
A Dual-Core or Quad-Core processor (we should have Quad-Core phones by next year)
An upgraded rear camera with 1080p recording with a good audio codec (not the crap that comes in all HTC phones now that sounds like a metal in a washing machine)
Stereo Speakers (the iPhone has had it for years)
At least 16GB of internal memory (and of course an external microSD slot)
Thoughts? It sounds impossible, but by the end of next year (which would follow the G-Series' two year cycle), this would be VERY possible.
TBH I dislike super amoled I wish they keep the slcd on the G3 because its sharper than Samoled and proven to be. Only thing better is the blacks which are by far the blackest blacks I've seen on a screen but the colors are way too bright/vivid, reds look like they are bleeding.
Slcd colors are much more natural than Samoled
Samoled blacks are blacks not dark grey like on slcd
Amoled has ok color just a little too deep and unatural like the Samoled but better than Samoled IMO
Take a look at the comparison of the 3 and tell me that's not true
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fa3stwyEBXs
I'd like a dual core to save battery a bit plus some speakers on the qwerty kb like the htc surround. More metal would be nice too...
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I'd like a dual core to save battery a bit plus some speakers on the qwerty kb like the htc surround. More metal would be nice too...
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Talking about battery when do you think technology will be so advance that they'll make phones last days with full charging? Imagine a phone that can last 2 days!!! now that'll be nice
Better camera for low light.
more internal usable memory.
dual core
21mps or even by then 42mbps.
i don't use the track pad at all.
slightly bigger lcd.
maybe 1500 or 1800 battery capacity.( save us money from upgrading)
included sd card higher than class 2.
Who are we kidding its probably going to be another year till we see it.
g1 in 2008
g2 2010
g3 2012
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Better camera for low light.
more internal usable memory.
dual core
21mps or even by then 42mbps.
i don't use the track pad at all.
slightly bigger lcd.
maybe 1500 or 1800 battery capacity.( save us money from upgrading)
included sd card higher than class 2.
Who are we kidding its probably going to be another year till we see it.
g1 in 2008
g2 2010
g3 2012
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Dude I hope we get a Gx every 2 years tmo should make it its flagship device lol and a G4 on 2014!!!
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Better camera for low light.
more internal usable memory.
dual core
21mps or even by then 42mbps.
i don't use the track pad at all.
slightly bigger lcd.
maybe 1500 or 1800 battery capacity.( save us money from upgrading)
included sd card higher than class 2.
Who are we kidding its probably going to be another year till we see it.
g1 in 2008
g2 2010
g3 2012
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I doubt that look at the mytouch 3g line the G2 series could easily get updated like that, but i would prefer to wait longer, makes you get more use out of the phone make it a more worthwhile purchase.
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I doubt that look at the mytouch 3g line the G2 series could easily get updated like that, but i would prefer to wait longer, makes you get more use out of the phone make it a more worthwhile purchase.
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yea true. Maybe that is their secret plan. to release the phone just in time for g1>g2>g3 owners to upgrade.
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yea true. Maybe that is their secret plan. to release the phone just in time for g1>g2>g3 owners to upgrade.
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I hope that's their secret plan lol
A five-row keyboard definitely is my own number one with a bullet. The four-row is maddening, given the useless www/com key, and lack of a hard pipe or gt/lt key due to repurposing for the lack of the number row and no way to remap that I've found so far. Using it to SSH into servers for remote maintenance is an exercise in frustration. Actually tempting to swap out for a Nexus S just for that, despite the cheap-plastic feel.
Front-facing camera would be great; a dual or quad core processor as well. Docking station pads and a magnetic sensor would be nice (as from the N1). NFC would be good for futureproofing, though not too useful right now. A better speaker on the back (at least a *bit* less tinny) would be nice... constantly concerned about blowing mine out if my headset drops connection during the middle of a loud music track.
Oh, and a wifi antenna design that doesn't drop 30dB off the SNR when you hold the left side in landscape mode.
I would like the next HTC device to have 8 cores running at 10 zetaherts each, 10 zetabytes of RAM, 10 GTX 485's in SLI, have download speeds up to 4 zbps and have the magical ability to turn into a giant spaceship.
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I would like the next HTC device to have 8 cores running at 10 zetaherts each, 10 zetabytes of RAM, 10 GTX 485's in SLI, have download speeds up to 4 zbps and have the magical ability to turn into a giant spaceship.
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Yea keep dreaming!
Hopefully it'll have @ least a 4" screen, way more memory & a better hinge system. Most likely it'll have dual core processors so it should be interesting.
Sent from my CyanogenMod powered G2.
everybody wants it to be faster, bigger (memory), better. But I didn't encounter any slow downs within apps with the g2/desire-z. So faster and bigger isn't one of my priorities. I would like it to be faster, more memory and stuff but the biggest problem I have with the current g2 is the battery life. Everything is fine and adequate but the battery life is terrible. I can not use the phone as much as i would like because of the battery life. When i travel (3 hours round trip) i can not use the phone for the full 3 hours because of this but i would like to. They should build a phone and a battery that can withstand 10 hours of intensive use on one battery cycle. I would like that a lot. or at least double the battery life. Then it would be adequate.
despite of it's faults, i still love my desire-z, I used a lot of different phones, Iphone 3g/4, samsung galaxy s, desire, but i like the desire-z way better..
Which would you get? Both are supposed to come out October 26th. Both have Gingerbread. Amaze has Sense 3.5, SGSII has TWIZ. Almost all the specs are same. The main difference I see is that the Amaze has a 1.5 dual core processor. The SGSII has been listed on some sites with 1.2 and on others with 1.5. If it is 1.2, I think the Amaze may be my choice.
The Amaze would also be my choice since Samsung has waited so long to release the GSII here, and they've refused to acknowledged the GPS issue with the Vibrant. I think my "never again" protest will be to actually never again purchase a Samsung product. Or at least not this time around.
I also don't like the 4.5" screen size that the SGSII for T-Mo is coming with. AT&T seems to be the only US carrier with enough sense in their heads to keep it at 4.3". Is the Amaze also supposed to be 4.5" of over-sized ridiculousness?
The issue isn't really the screen size, IMO. The issue is the screen resolution. They are increasing sizes to epic proportions, but not increasing the resolution which degrades video on the screen compared to 4-4.3" devices. 4.3" @ WVGA is already borderline for me. I require qHD for a 4.5-4.7" screen. It's just that simple. The phoen can be the hottest thing since sliced bread, but the screen is what I look at all the time I look at it. Vibrant colors aren't enough anymore. Need a better PPI.
If I had a choice, and if the Amaze does have 16GB internal storage... It's pretty much a no brainer. Amaze it is.
Only thing I don't like is that HTC Sense has become cluttered as **** lately. I used my Mom's inspire and got knocked the **** out when I long pressed on the home screen. There was so much crap there...
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The Amaze would also be my choice since Samsung has waited so long to release the GSII here, and they've refused to acknowledged the GPS issue with the Vibrant. I think my "never again" protest will be to actually never again purchase a Samsung product. Or at least not this time around.
I also don't like the 4.5" screen size that the SGSII for T-Mo is coming with. AT&T seems to be the only US carrier with enough sense in their heads to keep it at 4.3". Is the Amaze also supposed to be 4.5" of over-sized ridiculousness?
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OMG, yea.. that .2" is the deal breaker for me! Especially considering that is measured diagonally! That is like .1" in each direction! And yes.. that is sarcasm. I don't think that .2" should be a defining characteristic to anyone unless the device itself gets significantly bigger than that as a whole.
I am not sure that this is the same on all devices(phones, tablets, pc/macs) but I am pretty sure THIS "--" is longer than .2". If you don't believe me, go find a ruler or tape measure, or I am pretty sure there is an app for that.. .2" is nothing.
Anyways, THAT aside.. I will agree to an extent that as screen size gets bigger, so should the resolution or ppi.. but then again it would have to significantly increase in size before you notice any degradation in quality. Yes, the iPhone has its "whatever the hell it's called" display(too tired lazy to remember/look it up), and MAYBE it is noticeable compared to devices like the vibrant.. but increasing to a 4.5" device isn't going to be a huge downgrade by far.
Besides, I haven't even considered the HTC amaze 4g.. why? I haven't heard it is coming to t-mobile(pretty sure it isn't..). I am not going to switch carriers for a phone.. the phone I buy is based on the carriers, what they offer, and the prices.. so is it coming for tmo? If not, than what reason do you have to switch to their carrier BESIDES the phone?
/rant. Too tired for this anyways.
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Aren't all of those the same specs the same that the prime is supposed to have, except for a 5mp camera(with a better sensor instead)? Except it will have ice cream sandwich? Haven't we learned anything from our vibrants? Buy a device that is either truly superior, or starts off with a better software upgrade.. I would rather have something that will software-wise be superior and equal or better hardware wise..
Not sure why my distaste for 4.5" displays twisted your panties so tightly, but have you ever held a phone that size in your hand? I have, and it wasn't comfortable. I'm not all that fond of the 4.3" size either, but its a little less of an adjustment to get used to, since I know several people with phones that size and have had a chance to compare them to my Vibrant. Rant about factual errors all you like; keep your rants about other people's preferences between your ears (doing that also has the added benefit of making it less obvious there's plenty of room there for rants to knock around).
The Amaze was called Ruby during development, if I'm not mistaken, and yes, its coming to T-Mo. So start thinking about it.
Sent from my rough sketch of a Vibrant on a brick.
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4.3-inch qHD display, a dual-core 1.5GHz processor, an 8-megapixel camera, 2 MP FFC, 16GB of storage, 1GB of RAM and HSPA+ 42 are specs for the HTC Amaze
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If these are accurate, this will be my next phone... if I can keep myself from buying a Sensation, that is.
Sent from my rough sketch of a Vibrant on a brick.
ill be buying a hercules!!
And having fun at #NeverAgain 2.0 after they release the Galaxy S 2.5 4-5 months later for forget about your T-Mobile model that has different hardware components from basically all the other variants?
AT&T are setting themselves up good with their model. They're sticking pretty close to the international variant there...
Based on the HD recording abilities, the Amaze is looking pretty nice.
Both phones are officially coming out on October 12th, pre-sale online/phone on the 10th. Amaze is $259 after rebate, galaxy S II is $229.
Price difference aside... I have no idea which I'm going to buy yet. I really like my Vibrant and wouldn't really hesitate to buy another Samsung device. On the other side, I like the screen resolution on the Amaze.
I like the fact that Cyanogen works at Samsung now, and how quickly Samsung has been with releasing source for their Galaxy S II phones (although not the T-Mobile variant yet from what I can tell).
I haven't had experience with HTC since the G1, are they as good at modding as the Samsung devices right now?
Amaze. It's an HTC and the specs are literally identical except the Amaze has a qHD 4.3" SLCD Screen vs. 4.52" WVGA SAMOLED+ and the Amaze has a superior camera.
Gonna have to go with the Amaze 4G, provided I even decide to waste another Year+ with T-Mobile.
However, it's rumored that the Galaxy SII has support for AT&T UMTS/HSPA+ Bands, as well.
If that's the case, I'll get the GSII and ETF after a month and move to AT&T, since T-Mobile has less bloatware they put on their devices... Only two GSM Carriers here so a T-Mobile phoen with all brands is as good as an Unlocked, Unbranded device...
If the Amaze 4G has those bands as well, then it's a blow-out. There's also the possibility to just get a Cheap Atrix 4G and call it a day. With the updates those run decently now.
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Which would you get? Both are supposed to come out October 26th. Both have Gingerbread. Amaze has Sense 3.5, SGSII has TWIZ. Almost all the specs are same. The main difference I see is that the Amaze has a 1.5 dual core processor. The SGSII has been listed on some sites with 1.2 and on others with 1.5. If it is 1.2, I think the Amaze may be my choice.
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The correct CPU is 1.5 Ghz Dual Core Qualcomm, which is basically the same on both the Galaxy S2 and Amaze
many of those blog sites are waaaaaaaay outdated
I'll go for the Galaxy S2 (hercules) for the SAMOLED+ screen, the Amaze uses sLCD
other than that, both phone are almost identical
with minal difference in the battery the Hercules has 1850mAh can be upgraded to 2000 mAh (original by samsung) without changing battery cover, Amaze is 1730 (less juice)
more amaze details here http://htc.t-mobile.com/amaze-camera-phone
personally i'm going for the Galaxy S2 (hercules)
So which is better? AMOLED plus or the LCD Screen? Both appear to have 1080 HD recording, but does the Amaze have better picture taking abilities? Finally, the Galaxy S II isn't listed as having NFC in its specs on the t-mobile website.
http://galaxy-s.t-mobile.com/samsung-galaxy-s2
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The correct CPU is 1.5 Ghz Dual Core Qualcomm, which is basically the same on both the Galaxy S2 and Amaze
many of those blog sites are waaaaaaaay outdated
I'll go for the Galaxy S2 (hercules) for the SAMOLED+ screen, the Amaze uses sLCD
other than that, both phone are almost identical
with minal difference in the battery the Hercules has 1850mAh can be upgraded to 2000 mAh (original by samsung) without changing battery cover, Amaze is 1730 (less juice)
more amaze details here http://htc.t-mobile.com/amaze-camera-phone
personally i'm going for the Galaxy S2 (hercules)
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HTC needs to stick with the people who made the Droid incredible 2 super lcd screen. Those displays are spectacular. I don't think I'll be going with the amaze 4g. Sense is nice the amaze has 3.5 sense no idea what's the difference between 3.0 and 3.5. I know partially that sense 3.5 doesn't have hardware limitations. Besides the screen size and the UI overlays the phones are the essentially the same. I'm still going for this phone so tired of HTC's hit and misses on phones.
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I agree the Amaze 4G is clearly a better phone but why is it SO FAT and heavy! Look at its dimensions...nearly a small brick in fatness and it weighs 176g without any sort of sliding keyboard or anything. It's weight is not even in battery as the battery is a 1730mah or 1750mah...not even the 1850mah that the Hercules has.
I'm a little dissappoint in the physical design on the phone. Wish Samsung would have crammed a 720p screen on the Hercules and then we would not even be talking about this. Sigh.
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So which is better? AMOLED plus or the LCD Screen? Both appear to have 1080 HD recording, but does the Amaze have better picture taking abilities? Finally, the Galaxy S II isn't listed as having NFC in its specs on the t-mobile website.
http://galaxy-s.t-mobile.com/samsung-galaxy-s2
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wait....
you are mixing up 2 things
SAMOLED+ vs. sLCD screens has nothing to do with 1080p Video Recording
a screen it's just a screen its function is only to display stuff, not record
the recording part is done by the camera and the video encoding chip inside the phone
as for the NFC it's part there it has been shown here, but it might or might not be right
http://www.phonearena.com/phones/Samsung-Galaxy-S-II-T-Mobile_id5541
another source
http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/17/unannounced-samsung-hercules-headed-to-t-mobile-bearing-godli/
HTC Amaze 4g
Hercules FTW
Hercules is better lower res means more speed bigger battery more use an upgradeable to 2000 an Samoled + an nice design an the have a better layout
dan1son said:
Both phones are officially coming out on October 12th, pre-sale online/phone on the 10th. Amaze is $259 after rebate, galaxy S II is $229.
Price difference aside... I have no idea which I'm going to buy yet. I really like my Vibrant and wouldn't really hesitate to buy another Samsung device. On the other side, I like the screen resolution on the Amaze.
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TBH - most of the reviews I've seen about the Sensation/Amaze screen state that they are inferior to the SGSII - regardless of the resolution. LCD is simply an inferior technology.