question about new darkstone build and keyboard - HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera

so i love the new darkstone build and want to use it as my primary but i really really dont like the sense keyboard. i was wondering if it would be possible to change this to Darkstones original android builds keyboard?
anyone?

niiza said:
so i love the new darkstone build and want to use it as my primary but i really really dont like the sense keyboard. i was wondering if it would be possible to change this to Darkstones original android builds keyboard?
anyone?
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if you search on android market there should be smart keyboard pro, which has loads of skins to soot ur needs

ah thank you! also, is there anyway to not use HTC messaging on the new build? so i can just use the android messaging client

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niiza said:
ah thank you! also, is there anyway to not use HTC messaging on the new build? so i can just use the android messaging client
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I am not sure if you can switch to default or anything, but there are heaps of sms apps on the market, a couple of which are pretty good - once installed you can make it the 'default' app, disable notifications in the htc version and away you go.

Using the stock keyboard
I'm not sure what the old keyboard you were looking for looks like, but I was successful at adding the stock keyboard (with voice input) back as noted in my recent post in the thread titled "Froyo 2.2 Keyboard APK" (post 20).
Sense was was a great improvement for WinMo, but the UI kind of sucks (imho) for Android. I upgraded to the FroyoStone update the other day and it seemed more stable (less SoD, that's for sure). But the HTC junk scattered across the UI ruined it for me.

the darkstone thread has a link for the apk of the kb youre looking for. search don't ask they'll bite your head off

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A Keyboard that has all these requirements:

Ok i know many people are in love with the hero keyboard but the problem is the lag. i stopped using it because when i type in landscape mode it just becomes so laggy, it would type and it would take forever for it to catch up. but the thing i love about it, i can use the trackball to select the correct words. there are some "optimized" HTC_IME's that disable the autocorrection but thats stupid, i need the autocorrection. i tried the default keyboard and i actually like it, BUT i cant select words with the trackball, that is important to me. so what keyboard does these things:
1) no lag
2) has autocorrection
3) able to select words with the trackball
4) saving words you enter into dictionary and suggest it first
So basically a "betterkeyboard" with trackball selection.
ive tried betterkeyboard, but it doesnt give me the option to select the autocorrect word, or scroll through them with my trackball, i gotta use my finger and its uncomfortable like that. can anyone recommend an alternative if there even is one? thanks!
HTC IME keyboard
tazz9690 said:
HTC IME keyboard
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That's the keyboard that he was complaining about lag.
Added one more requirement. I doubt sucha keyboard exists tho. Maybe i should email the devs of betterkeyboard
HTC default Keyboard on Cyanogen ROM
Hello I’m using the MoDaCo-sapphire Hero image on the MT3G, and it is painfully slow. I was wondering if the default HTC keyboard is usable on any of the Cyanogen builds. If so can anyone point me in the right direction to add it to Cyanogen 4.2.5? I love using any variant of the Hero builds, but they lag, are resource hogs, and my battery becomes mush. I just love their default keyboard which is easier to use, and it should be even faster on a lean ROM such as Cyanogens. Thanks.
caddfunk said:
Hello I’m using the MoDaCo-sapphire Hero image on the MT3G, and it is painfully slow. I was wondering if the default HTC keyboard is usable on any of the Cyanogen builds. If so can anyone point me in the right direction to add it to Cyanogen 4.2.5? I love using any variant of the Hero builds, but they lag, are resource hog, and my battery becomes mush. I just love their default keyboard which is easier to use, and it should be even faster on a lean ROM such as Cyanogens. Thanks.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=567294
Here's the link to the keyboard. Just download it and install it using an app installer. The keyboard is pretty fast, but as the OP said, it lags, but not as bad as hero roms.
RE: HTC default Keyboard on Cyanogen ROM
Thanks a lot this forum is the best! Fast response time with a solution to my issue!
Anartic said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=567294
Here's the link to the keyboard. Just download it and install it using an app installer. The keyboard is pretty fast, but as the OP said, it lags, but not as bad as hero roms.
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yes this is the same one that is giving me issues. man i really wish the betterkeyboards had a scroll selection. any other opinions before i call it quits?
perhaps someone can explain to me how i can install an HTC_IME that has been optimized by eugene. its in his latest ROM, i successfully extracted it but it wont install. im sure i can do it through adb, anyone have the codes?
a suggestion...
I found another one recently which I believe is better with less bugs than betterkeyboard... its called "asoftkeyboard" its free on market... and its got almost every language support...
betterkeyboard started giving me bugs depending on roms and stuff so i tried this.. and absolutely love it... keys are kind of small though...
but try that guys...
Iman07 said:
yes this is the same one that is giving me issues. man i really wish the betterkeyboards had a scroll selection. any other opinions before i call it quits?
perhaps someone can explain to me how i can install an HTC_IME that has been optimized by eugene. its in his latest ROM, i successfully extracted it but it wont install. im sure i can do it through adb, anyone have the codes?
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Just thought I'd ask - which rom are you using? I don't get any lag with HTC IME.
You should really check out TouchPal from Cooltek. It has all functions you requested.
st0kes said:
Just thought I'd ask - which rom are you using? I don't get any lag with HTC IME.
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i was using dwangs ROM for a while. recently upgraded to 2.0. maybe ill try some of these suggestions...hopefully they work on 2.0. thanks!!

Sense UI elements on AOSP?

I am running darchstars AOSP2.1 ROM and I have two questions for any enterprising devs, if they have time or can tell me the way to do it.
1)I went from using the stock keyboard to betterkeyboard back to the HTC keyboard. In better keyboard you can adjust the vibration for each keypress to be short, is there a way I can change the HTC keyboard to that as well? I'm not afraid of the command line, but I have no idea where I might start with this.
2)I much prefer the HTC dialer app, with the smart dialing. Is there a way to use that instead of the stock android dialer, or a different dialer replacement that has similar functionality?
Thanks again for any responses!
foolforfood said:
I am running darchstars AOSP2.1 ROM and I have two questions for any enterprising devs, if they have time or can tell me the way to do it.
1)I went from using the stock keyboard to betterkeyboard back to the HTC keyboard. In better keyboard you can adjust the vibration for each keypress to be short, is there a way I can change the HTC keyboard to that as well? I'm not afraid of the command line, but I have no idea where I might start with this.
2)I much prefer the HTC dialer app, with the smart dialing. Is there a way to use that instead of the stock android dialer, or a different dialer replacement that has similar functionality?
Thanks again for any responses!
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Basically what you want is Gumbo Bare on 2.1?
I'm also interested in this. I'm playing around with an Odroid running AOSP 2.1, I've gotten google bits to run on it, I found a package that includes the framework etc, and works exactly like it should. Very easy to install.
Finding a similar package for senceUI would be of interest to me.
The ability to take a vanillia AOSP add any flavor I want, google bits, SenceUI, Moto Blur... or anything else would be very nice IMO. Instead of the current... I like this rom because it has.... but I wish it had..... Put it together like lego blocks.
HeroMeng said:
Basically what you want is Gumbo Bare on 2.1?
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Well, not really. I'm looking for a way to edit the HTC keyboard haptic feedback if there's a way, and to find a replacement dialer for any AOSP ROM since I personally don't like the stock one. The keyboard is a little more important to me, but I was just hoping somebody might know what I'm looking for.
foolforfood said:
Well, not really. I'm looking for a way to edit the HTC keyboard haptic feedback if there's a way, and to find a replacement dialer for any AOSP ROM since I personally don't like the stock one. The keyboard is a little more important to me, but I was just hoping somebody might know what I'm looking for.
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Look through the 2.1 compatible MetaMorph themes.

Who wants a Titanium (no Sense) ROM?

Alright, so I have no experience making a ROM, but I figure I might as well learn. I personally am interested in a ROM for the HD2 that just uses Titanium - none of that messy Sense nonsense - and to the best of my knowledge the current ROM chefs aren't too interested in that.
However, considering I can always just turn off Sense, it seems like a lot of work for just me. Is anyone else out there interested in such a thing? I presume you'd want it based on 6.5.x, not the standard 6.5?
If there's enough interest, I'll get started tonight.
Also, if you are interested, please post what other add-ons you'd want pre-installed. I'd like to keep it fairly basic, and allow users to add their own customizations later, but I figure maybe at least 4-column start menu and slider at the bottom.
Would be a good idea to have one. I'd love to have compatible themes as well for it. It's really tough searching for them as nobody is really into that anymore. Titanium would fly on our phones as HTC Sense for WinMo is pretty slow compared to it's Android counterpart. I ran HTC Sense on my Nexus One and it was crazy fast and the Nexus One has less RAM and ROM space than the HD2
I like to use the phone without Sense, but recently with the Elegancia ROM from steve0007 I have been using it with Sense enabled. When I disable Sense, there is a weird issue on the HD2, and I think I experienced it with other ROMs too, where the default menus don't disappear from the screen once I have tapped what I need. They just stay, blocking the screen, and the only solution is a soft reset. It'd be nice to have the ability to enable and disable Sense at will without an issue like this. A ROM without Sense at all might be a solution but I prefer having both options.
Miri has a couple options out, Titanium only or without both. But you have to go over to that 'other site' to get them.
mwelch16 said:
Miri has a couple options out, Titanium only or without both. But you have to go over to that 'other site' to get them.
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Just checked it out. Looks like its based on 6.5. Nothing wrong with that per se, but without Sense you lose the HTC apps like contacts, calendar, etc and 6.5.x is a nice upgrade over 6.5 in that area.
pinhead said:
I like to use the phone without Sense, but recently with the Elegancia ROM from steve0007 I have been using it with Sense enabled. When I disable Sense, there is a weird issue on the HD2, and I think I experienced it with other ROMs too, where the default menus don't disappear from the screen once I have tapped what I need. They just stay, blocking the screen, and the only solution is a soft reset. It'd be nice to have the ability to enable and disable Sense at will without an issue like this. A ROM without Sense at all might be a solution but I prefer having both options.
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I'm sorry, can you explain this a little more? I've used stock, Energy, and Kumar's ROMs all with Titanium and I don't think I've seen that one.
I'm using a really basic rom right now with HTC's stuff disabled. I prefer the WinMo 6.5 style today screen, SMS app, and speed. I've tried a bunch of roms and sense just bogs the phone down to the point that they keyboard becomes slow and unresponsive and that drives me bonkers!
FYI - I've been playing around with kitchens, and have what appears to be a stable version of a fast, basic, Titanium-only ROM running on my phone.
I'll play around with it some more to sort out bugs and clean up my kitchen a bit more. Look for a thread with the ROM download in the coming days!
I'm relatively new, and will do a search here shortly, but Titanium? My biggest gripe with this phone is the messaging app. It always lags heavily every time I get a new text, as well as other weird time stamp issues. I would be interested in a ROM w/o the HTC messaging app, and if Titanium is it, them I'm game!
Like I said, I will be searching RIGHT after this about what all this is, and if there's a solution to what I'm looking for now.
tbot said:
I'm relatively new, and will do a search here shortly, but Titanium? My biggest gripe with this phone is the messaging app. It always lags heavily every time I get a new text, as well as other weird time stamp issues. I would be interested in a ROM w/o the HTC messaging app, and if Titanium is it, them I'm game!
Like I said, I will be searching RIGHT after this about what all this is, and if there's a solution to what I'm looking for now.
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Titanium is the default Windows Mobile 6.5 interface. If you want to see what it looks like - go to the settings tab, hit menu->all settings->today, go to the Items tab, and switch to Windows Default.
And you're in luck - I am using the standard Windows Mobile messaging app as well.
I got a ROM building as I type this, I'll let you guys know how it goes
DeekoVB5 said:
I'm sorry, can you explain this a little more? I've used stock, Energy, and Kumar's ROMs all with Titanium and I don't think I've seen that one.
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Here is a link to the ROM: forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=654218
It is for the T-Mobile HD2. It is probably the best looking and most stable I have used on any Windows Mobile phone...and I used MANY on my Touch Pro2.
DeekoVB5 said:
Titanium is the default Windows Mobile 6.5 interface. If you want to see what it looks like - go to the settings tab, hit menu->all settings->today, go to the Items tab, and switch to Windows Default.
And you're in luck - I am using the standard Windows Mobile messaging app as well.
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How did you get the standard winmo messaging app? Even after I disabled the sense UI it still used the sense messaging...
tbot said:
How did you get the standard winmo messaging app? Even after I disabled the sense UI it still used the sense messaging...
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Sense UI and HTC messaging client are different but interdependent.
The HTCmessaging client may still function without sense UI.
If you want windows messaging, try here or need a cooked ROM like my Lite version ROM.
How is this coming along?
Anyone have any links to some Titanium ROMs?
i know nrg always puts out a titanium rom
NRG does have a Titanium Rom, however I have noticed a lot of programs are pre-packaged into the Rom that I would never use.
An Elegancia Titanium Rom would be the best of both worlds in my opinion. No fluff and allows for your own additions. Or a NRG Rom without the extras. Just my .02 in what I would like to see.
FreakyFerret said:
How is this coming along?
Anyone have any links to some Titanium ROMs?
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I would recommend either Energy or Kumar's Titanium ROM, depending on what you're looking for.
I had something that was ok, not great, when the more established ROM chefs started putting out Titanium ROMs, so I figured I'd just leave it up to them.
Do you have a link for Kumars Titanium Rom? I see the Lite version but is that the same as Titanium or is there a separate thread which I am not seeing?
I'm going to download the Energy Rom but have a feeling it will still have too much added for my liking.

What HTC messanger version is this?

Does anyone know what version of the HTC messanger is and where I could possibly find a cab file to install it? it's partially installed in the energy rom but when you click all messages it goes back to the default WM one which I don't like, if found the cab for the version that's stock on the HD2 which is of course extremely laggy, this version however is not laggy while keeping the hole contacts linking thing of the HTC messanger.
is there not an update on htc's website?
I wonder about this as well...
M3PH said:
is there not an update on htc's website?
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No.
shiltz said:
Does anyone know what version of the HTC messanger is and where I could possibly find a cab file to install it? it's partially installed in the energy rom but when you click all messages it goes back to the default WM one which I don't like, if found the cab for the version that's stock on the HD2 which is of course extremely laggy, this version however is not laggy while keeping the hole contacts linking thing of the HTC messanger.
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That's Manilla messaging that is part of the Sense UI. It's not a fully integrated messaging as you will find in Sense 2.5 roms. NRG removes HTC messaging from his roms but that portion of it can still be accessed when using messages from Sense home screen. It's the same thing with Sense 2.1 for TP2 & earlier devices.
There are full HTC messaging .cabs available in the apps & themes forum, look for the HTC Messaging 2014 thread, but it's not going to look like that.

Sense Stock Keyboard On HD2

Is there a APK file to download/pay for the sense stock keyboard... wen i install a sense rom i like the keyboard but cant use the rom as everyday use for its lag atm so was wondering if its possible to get the keyboard ?
thanks in advance
LaneyEFC said:
Is there a APK file to download/pay for the sense stock keyboard... wen i install a sense rom i like the keyboard but cant use the rom as everyday use for its lag atm so was wondering if its possible to get the keyboard ?
thanks in advance
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1147962
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LaneyEFC said:
Is there a APK file to download/pay for the sense stock keyboard... wen i install a sense rom i like the keyboard but cant use the rom as everyday use for its lag atm so was wondering if its possible to get the keyboard ?
thanks in advance
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Which rom are you having lag with as most lag can be fixed by rebooting a few times, or killing certain tasks etc.
If you really want the best sense keyboard (Desire HD with arrows) but dont want all the bloatware from sense you can use the MarkinuX HD rom. Its a stripped down version of the Desire HD rom and all sense has been stripped away except for teh basic stuff like keyboard.
Its been my fall-back rom for long time as it gives you speed as stock froyo but with added DHD keybord
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1147962
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Thats a old out dated version of sense keyboard and doesnt have the arrows.
TheATHEiST said:
Which rom are you having lag with as most lag can be fixed by rebooting a few times, or killing certain tasks etc.
If you really want the best sense keyboard (Desire HD with arrows) but dont want all the bloatware from sense you can use the MarkinuX HD rom. Its a stripped down version of the Desire HD rom and all sense has been stripped away except for teh basic stuff like keyboard.
Its been my fall-back rom for long time as it gives you speed as stock froyo but with added DHD keybord
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I've tested few of sense roms some r stable some had lag, and priority of them have (GRAPHIC GLITCHES) which i heard cant be helped, "so the devs are not to be blamed" as they do a great job on every rom they build... anyways sticking with normal NON sense roms for now and was just hoping there was a apk sense keyboard for NON sense as i prefer it to stock android keyboard
Thanks anyways

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