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im asking this because i was in the local sprint store picking up a car charger for my wifes moment. i ask if they had a release date for the EVO he said no and 4g wont be in the area is who knows when . i said i wasunder the impression the EVO was 4g winmax but was able to use 3g as well .
well he looked stunned and if he had no idea what i was talking about .
so is it 3g and 4g or just 4g . if its just 4g i see no reason for myself to pick an evo till 4g is in my area
3g and 4g. In fact in some of the screen shots floating around you can see it connected to 3g. But regardless, it's definitely both.
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3g and 4g. In fact in some of the screen shots floating around you can see it connected to 3g. But regardless, it's definitely both.
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thats what i was thinking but the CSR kinda threw me for a loop !
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thats what i was thinking but the CSR kinda threw me for a loop !
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About 60% of the CSR's are idiots, in my experience. Take what they say with an entire bag of rock salt.
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About 60% of the CSR's are idiots, in my experience. Take what they say with an entire bag of rock salt.
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yea id bump that too 80 % + imho 3 people there had no idea what the EVO was lol
but that's why i cam and asked here
http://twitter.com/sprint/status/11311075010
It will have an evdo radio.
According to HTC, you won't be able to use 4G and Voice at the same time due to software limitations... which definitely makes it sound like it may be a possibility with a future software update.
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http://twitter.com/sprint/status/11311075010
It will have an evdo radio.
According to HTC, you won't be able to use 4G and Voice at the same time due to software limitations... which definitely makes it sound like it may be a possibility with a future software update.
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yea just found this
http://www.androidcentral.com/sprint-clarifies-voice-data-evo-4g
if u live in Philly 4g is available via Clear..
illogic6 said:
http://twitter.com/sprint/status/11311075010
It will have an evdo radio.
According to HTC, you won't be able to use 4G and Voice at the same time due to software limitations... which definitely makes it sound like it may be a possibility with a future software update.
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wow no 4g and voice? even if eventually possible, that might be a deal breaker for me. then again....snapdragon....uhggg idk
in my store im the go to guy, known as the "android guy", i can say not all reps are knowledgable for sure but in my store if someone doesnt know they ask someone they know who does. in my store again theres this one guy whos worked for sprint for about 2-3 years but he doesnt know much about phones he sees as just a job and nothing more, so theres def reps like that also their there for money nothing else.
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wow no 4g and voice? even if eventually possible, that might be a deal breaker for me. then again....snapdragon....uhggg idk
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Eh, it is the same way that you don't get 3g and voice simultaneously on the Hero you have right now.
I guess you could always go GSM AT&T and pay twice as much for the same voice/data package. Might as well pick up an Iphone too.
Hopefully they update the software to allow for data+voice, but it isn't even a phone-deciding factor for me. The EVO has 4g+3g+1x btw.
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When I bought my Hero last October the CSR told me that it is 4g ready and will just require an OTA update when 4g hits the area here this summer. LOL
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Eh, it is the same way that you don't get 3g and voice simultaneously on the Hero you have right now.
I guess you could always go GSM AT&T and pay twice as much for the same voice/data package. Might as well pick up an Iphone too.
Hopefully they update the software to allow for data+voice, but it isn't even a phone-deciding factor for me. The EVO has 4g+3g+1x btw.
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3G and 1X are really the same thing-ish. They are both in what's considered the 3G family. 1X being the lowest tier/speed and EVDO Rev. B the fastest.
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3G and 1X are really the same thing-ish. They are both in what's considered the 3G family. 1X being the lowest tier/speed and EVDO Rev. B the fastest.
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Just like Edge and HSDPA if I understand it correctly.
Joecrack305 said:
in my store im the go to guy, known as the "android guy", i can say not all reps are knowledgable for sure but in my store if someone doesnt know they ask someone they know who does. in my store again theres this one guy whos worked for sprint for about 2-3 years but he doesnt know much about phones he sees as just a job and nothing more, so theres def reps like that also their there for money nothing else.
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Right... But at alot of stores, don't have that guy, only sales focused guys, I know from experience..
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Eh, it is the same way that you don't get 3g and voice simultaneously on the Hero you have right now.
I guess you could always go GSM AT&T and pay twice as much for the same voice/data package. Might as well pick up an Iphone too.
Hopefully they update the software to allow for data+voice, but it isn't even a phone-deciding factor for me. The EVO has 4g+3g+1x btw.
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i wouldnt be caught DEAD with an iphone mister! unless i was playing with I Am Tpain lol!
btw, i know you all will slate is as a rumor, but a fellow hero user sprint rep told me the evos release is set for june or july. idk if thats believable? whats your opinion?
I currently have an HD2, but came a cross a guy that want's to trade his new Dell streak for my phone plus some cash. I'm tempted, but I live in the states and have t-mobile, so 3G is a no go.
Would you consider this trade?
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I currently have an HD2, but came a cross a guy that want's to trade his new Dell streak for my phone plus some cash. I'm tempted, but I live in the states and have t-mobile, so 3G is a no go.
Would you consider this trade?
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Hi
I would definitely take him up on his generous offer seems a great deal to me,the streak wins hands down in my opinion,as you say in the states its a no brainer,go for the streak
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I would definitely take him up on his generous offer seems a great deal to me,the streak wins hands down in my opinion,as you say in the states its a no brainer,go for the streak
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You would recommend it eventhough I won't get 3G?
It depends on how much you value t-mobile 3g. Do you use it a lot? If so, i would keep the hd2. If not, streak all the way.
I personally would not be that bothered about 3g but i do not know how it is in the USA.
About 1.0-1.5mb download for 3g. About 4.0-5.0mb download if you are in a tmobile 3.5g (hsdpa+) area. Big difference.
Well I definitely use the internet on my phone alot, but about half the time, I have wifi. As long as my MMS and such still worked, I guess I could live without it.
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About 1.0-1.5mb download for 3g. About 4.0-5.0mb download if you are in a tmobile 3.5g (hsdpa+) area. Big difference.
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I don't think we have 3.5g in the states through t-mobile yet.
No offence, but yes we do. Only in certain markets right now though. T-mobile is suppose to finish the rollout by the end of the year.
http://www.tmonews.com/2010/06/t-mobile-expanding-hspa-markets-today/
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No offence, but yes we do. Only in certain markets right now though. T-mobile is suppose to finish the rollout by the end of the year.
http://www.tmonews.com/2010/06/t-mobile-expanding-hspa-markets-today/
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Lol, why would I take offense to that? Well it's definitely not in my area. So going from standard 3G to EDGE, the speed difference kill me?
Probably not kill you, lol. Browsing the web would be tolerable. But downloading large files like music and programs would be a pain though.
I just want to make sure before I buy this phone that it will work on Simple Mobile at 3G speeds at the very least... HSPA+ maybe in the future?
I dont want to get it if it wont work since I dont want to be on slow EDGE for ATT and dont want to pay a premium if I am going to use TMOBILE service anyways.
Thanks.
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I just want to make sure before I buy this phone that it will work on Simple Mobile at 3G speeds at the very least... HSPA+ maybe in the future?
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Simple Mobile is intriguingly priced.
The Nexus One will never work on the HSPA+ network any faster than the regular HSPA network; the hardware isn't HSPA+ compatible.
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I just want to make sure before I buy this phone that it will work on Simple Mobile at 3G speeds at the very least... HSPA+ maybe in the future?
I dont want to get it if it wont work since I dont want to be on slow EDGE for ATT and dont want to pay a premium if I am going to use TMOBILE service anyways.
Thanks.
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if your phone providers works on 900/1700/2100 then it will work for you, else no
Simple Mobile is a T-Mobile reseller so yes it will work.
Since it is a Tmobile phone it seems like 3G should be good.. how about HSPA+???
I know the Mytouch4G is good and the G2 but nowhere does it say on the NExus S it is HSPA+.... anyone know if that will work at the SUPER FASTER SPEEDS?
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Since it is a Tmobile phone it seems like 3G should be good.. how about HSPA+???
I know the Mytouch4G is good and the G2 but nowhere does it say on the NExus S it is HSPA+.... anyone know if that will work at the SUPER FASTER SPEEDS?
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the NS is NOT a HSPA+ device..but really guys do you need faster than 7.2?
and *pats self on back for 1,000th post*
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the NS is NOT a HSPA+ device..but really guys do you need faster than 7.2?
and *pats self on back for 1,000th post*
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Man u should have waited for your 1000th post for something better.... thanks anyways and congrats...
I wasn't even aware that the standard 3G can go that fast... thats plenty fast... I thought the 7.2 is HSPA+ speed....
Now Im really excited if I can even get 4+...
thanks.
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Man u should have waited for your 1000th post for something better.... thanks anyways and congrats...
I wasn't even aware that the standard 3G can go that fast... thats plenty fast... I thought the 7.2 is HSPA+ speed....
Now Im really excited if I can even get 4+...
thanks.
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HSPA maxes out at 7.2mbs, HSPA+ at ~22mbs but the MT4G/G2 max at ~14.4mbs if i recall correctly.
On average, I see around 2.5mbs to 3.8mbs on my Nexus which was about the same as I was seeing on my MT4G oddly enough. The G2 was getting 4-8mbs
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HSPA maxes out at 7.2mbs, HSPA+ at ~22mbs but the MT4G/G2 max at ~14.4mbs if i recall correctly.
On average, I see around 2.5mbs to 3.8mbs on my Nexus which was about the same as I was seeing on my MT4G oddly enough. The G2 was getting 4-8mbs
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I seem to get faster speeds on my NS than i did on my N1
Your going to have a ballin' phone and run bootleg service? Makes no sense to me. If price is a issue why by a 529$ phone?
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I seem to get faster speeds on my NS than i did on my N1
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Yep, same here. My Nexus One barely pulled >1mbs. Everyone hails that phone as the greatest thing since sliced bread, and don't get me wrong it was pretty damn great, but it had several flaws too such as the poor 3G reception I'm citing here.
Simple mobile gets t-mobile speed. I am proof that this work. Everything works except 4g since nexus s doesn't have that but I get amazing 3g speed.
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the NS is NOT a HSPA+ device..but really guys do you need faster than 7.2?
and *pats self on back for 1,000th post*
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I would be happy with a consistent 3.0mb. within a span of 3 miles I can go from 5mb to less than 1mb and lots of areas still are edge
last time i did a speed test maxed out at 2.8 Mbps down on Wind Mobile
and it was even less on Rogers / Fido, so i'm very happy
So finally pulled the trigger... TRUE 3g speed on this phone. I couldn't be any happier.
Only problem is T-Mobile network isn't the largest so I have a lot of edge network areas. When 3g is running its pretty darn quick though.
All for 60 unlimited....
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So finally pulled the trigger... TRUE 3g speed on this phone. I couldn't be any happier.
Only problem is T-Mobile network isn't the largest so I have a lot of edge network areas. When 3g is running its pretty darn quick though.
All for 60 unlimited....
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Thats awesome. I have been contemplating getting SIMple Mobile for use on my MT4G or G2, but, I have been thinking about getting a NS to use on SM.
Do any of the Visual Voicemail apps work on this (or any T-Mo phone) using SIMple Mobile? It is my understanding that any FlexPay or Pre-Paid providers cannot offer any type of Visual Voicemail services. I know, Google Voice would work ok, but I'm not happy with their UI, and other aspects of GV.
If any Visual Voicemail apps would work with SIMple Mobile, flawlessly, then I'm sold on both SM & NS.
Any help would be most appreciated.
Just figured I would give you guys thinking of moving to Simple a heads up. Their "unlimited" data is capped at 1GB. There have been reports of them shutting down your service once you reach this and charging you for prepaid data to continue use. Do your research before you jump especially if you like to tether or do a lot of streaming.
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Just figured I would give you guys thinking of moving to Simple a heads up. Their "unlimited" data is capped at 1GB. There have been reports of them shutting down your service once you reach this and charging you for prepaid data to continue use. Do your research before you jump especially if you like to tether or do a lot of streaming.
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I've read the same thing on HowardForums. Since it's prepaid, you can pay for the service but they can disconnect the data anytime they want during that month.
I'm paying $55.99 a month on a non-contract basis right now, gives me 500 minutes and unlimited data. For SMS I simply use Google Voice which is free. I use it as my primary number instead of the T-Mobile one. I don't know my T-Mobile number even.
So for $60 a month, seems like Simple Mobile is more expensive and its very likely that Simple Mobile's contract for data is rather expensive hence why they cap at 1gb of data. I wouldn't expect you to ever be allowed to go past that given that MVNO's make much less profit overall.
I considered it, but quickly abandoned the plan. If it was actually cheaper (for me) I'd be willing to try it.
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So for $60 a month, seems like Simple Mobile is more expensive and its very likely that Simple Mobile's contract for data is rather expensive hence why they cap at 1gb of data. I wouldn't expect you to ever be allowed to go past that given that MVNO's make much less profit overall.
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Woah 1GB data cap? Seems like a plan that would be good for parents, grandparents, or busy businesspeople who don't have the time/desire to do anything but light data use.
Glad you mentioned this, I was actually thinking of trying out the service.
Well guys i sold my incredible i couldnt deal with verizon anymore i went to at&t and a new phone of course I went back to Windows Mobile 6.5 I stuck with HTC it was HTC or bust pretty much so i'm picking up an HTC Tilt 2 well it was nice having an android but i got work to do modding winmo 6.5
Why didn't you at least Win7.1? Also, how is going from Verizon to AT&T improvement, I switched from them, I was tired of never having 3G.
What bugged you about Verizon so much?
I can't wait to switch back to at&t. gsm has never failed me for reception nor data issues. Verizon has overswamped towers in my area. my avg reception is between -85 to -92 db while holding one bar for dear life. switching to 1xrtt does nothing.
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Well guys i sold my incredible i couldnt deal with verizon anymore i went to at&t and a new phone of course I went back to Windows Mobile 6.5 I stuck with HTC it was HTC or bust pretty much so i'm picking up an HTC Tilt 2 well it was nice having an android but i got work to do modding winmo 6.5
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Wow. Talk about going BACK in time. Well, whatever works for you! Good luck!
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Why didn't you at least Win7.1? Also, how is going from Verizon to AT&T improvement, I switched from them, I was tired of never having 3G.
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I didnt see any WP 7 devices with sense i'm a sense addict if there is sense on them someone let me know
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What bugged you about Verizon so much?
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Horrible speeds for 3g and at&t was cheaper for me only thing i miss is unlimited data for smartphones, I'm wondering if i could use at&t's medianet data for their feature phones on my at&t smartphone that'd be sweet i'd save 50%+ a month instead of 25%+
Why dont you buy an htc sensation and put it on ATT?
I had a Touch Pro2 on VzW, which as far as I know, is nearly the same thing as the Tilt 2, but I think most people regard the VzW version as the superior one. I upgraded to an Incredible, and I can't imagine ever going back to it. You must have really hated Verizon!
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Why dont you buy an htc sensation and put it on ATT?
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Hmm i have considered that but i dont know if the 3g and 4g bands are the same if so thats a nice chunk of change i would be shelling out
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I had a Touch Pro2 on VzW, which as far as I know, is nearly the same thing as the Tilt 2, but I think most people regard the VzW version as the superior one. I upgraded to an Incredible, and I can't imagine ever going back to it. You must have really hated Verizon!
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yeah i really hated vzw considering the fact i had to go outside just to get signal and your right the tilt 2 and touch pro are the same thing just the tilt 2 is WCDMA GSM while the touch pro 2 is CDMA
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Hmm i have considered that but i dont know if the 3g and 4g bands are the same if so thats a nice chunk of change i would be shelling out
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Theyre the same Att supports tmobiles fake 4g hspa+ and yea thats a whole chunk of cash but the sensation 4g is an epic phone heres the link for the compatible sensation 4g att bands its a whole chunk of cash http://negrielectronics.com/htc-z710a-sensation-850-1900-3g.html
I left verizon also for the lack of signal etc ( live in the sticks ) flashed my DINC to Metropcs.. got tired of losing signal at my driveway.. so now with att.. so far have a strong signal everywhere. and faster data than i had with sprint or verizon.. so atm im pleased.. i got a htc inspire.. so far love it.. batt life could be better. but no worse than the dinc was.... You just have to fine what works for u.. cause im sure in the big cities its harder to choose.. but in the sticks.. its whoever gets the best signal for me..
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I left verizon also for the lack of signal etc ( live in the sticks ) flashed my DINC to Metropcs.. got tired of losing signal at my driveway.. so now with att.. so far have a strong signal everywhere. and faster data than i had with sprint or verizon.. so atm im pleased.. i got a htc inspire.. so far love it.. batt life could be better. but no worse than the dinc was.... You just have to fine what works for u.. cause im sure in the big cities its harder to choose.. but in the sticks.. its whoever gets the best signal for me..
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I think that makes sense. And FWIW a friend of mine got his first Android smartphone - an Inspire - and loves it.
I'm very happy with my inspire.. still have my spare dinc to use for music at work.. etc
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is the sensation a gsm phone only? No cdma?
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Well guys i sold my incredible i couldnt deal with verizon anymore i went to at&t and a new phone of course I went back to Windows Mobile 6.5 I stuck with HTC it was HTC or bust pretty much so i'm picking up an HTC Tilt 2 well it was nice having an android but i got work to do modding winmo 6.5
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Wow - that sounds like a nightmare. Leaving Android and Verizon for ATT and Windows 6.5... I hope you wake up from that terrifying dream soon!
I had my evo since last november. Great phone. Joined XDA in January and never looked back. Just wanted to thank everyone on these evo forums for all the help and wonderful roms, etc.
I have decided to opt out of my contract with that recent sprint change and moved to tmobile. Nothing to do with the evo. its sprint in phoenix. Just couldnt take the slow 3g anymore.
Like the title says, evo will always have a place in my pocket
I will be over at the g2x forums but Ill always come back here to see whats new with (what I consider) one of the best Android phones ever made.
Would like to add, i like sprint as a whole. Theyve been very good and work with me so this is not a blast against them either. Just need faster internet for my day to day activities.
Wait what sprint change haha
Swyped from mah synergy evo!
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Wait what sprint change haha
Swyped from mah synergy evo!
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Here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1224285
50 cents a month more? Or am I missing something haha
Swyped from mah synergy evo!
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50 cents a month more? Or am I missing something haha
Swyped from mah synergy evo!
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And its not even in effect yet.
(Its just an excuse to get out of contract)
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And its not even in effect yet.
(Its just an excuse to get out of contract)
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That's exactly what I used it as. It was either I do it now or stay and hope we get 4g in Phoenix soon
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I'm leaving too! Going to T-Mobile as well, but for the Dell Venue Pro. The build quality is simply amazing, it feels very high end. We'll see how I like Windows Phone. should be here Thursday!
My evo is for sale if someone should happen to PM me.
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Ohhhhhhh okok haha i get it
I'm moving to Tmobile just for the money part.
Prepaid $50 a month, unlimited everything, $7 sim card and then gonna grab an unlocked Milestone and overclock it and what not and I'll be good.
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unlimited everything
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Pretty positive that on the plan you're talking about you get 200mb a month and then you're throttled to EDGE speeds.
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Pretty positive that on the plan you're talking about you get 200mb a month and then you're throttled to EDGE speeds.
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That is correct, sir. If you don't go over 200MB, you are golden. If you tether, it will suck large equine gonads!
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Pretty positive that on the plan you're talking about you get 200mb a month and then you're throttled to EDGE speeds.
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The prepaid plan lists the first 100mb as 4g speeds, so since looking at it I still assume the other data will be at 3g speeds, and even at edge speeds I don't mind. I hardly use my phone on the 3g modem enough as it is, only for facebook and small things like that.
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The prepaid plan lists the first 100mb as 4g speeds, so since looking at it I still assume the other data will be at 3g speeds, and even at edge speeds I don't mind. I hardly use my phone on the 3g modem enough as it is, only for facebook and small things like that.
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That's fine. I just thought you should be aware of all the details.
If you are and are fine with that, good luck to you sir.
pottyvick said:
I had my evo since last november. Great phone. Joined XDA in January and never looked back. Just wanted to thank everyone on these evo forums for all the help and wonderful roms, etc.
I have decided to opt out of my contract with that recent sprint change and moved to tmobile. Nothing to do with the evo. its sprint in phoenix. Just couldnt take the slow 3g anymore.
Like the title says, evo will always have a place in my pocket
I will be over at the g2x forums but Ill always come back here to see whats new with (what I consider) one of the best Android phones ever made.
Would like to add, i like sprint as a whole. Theyve been very good and work with me so this is not a blast against them either. Just need faster internet for my day to day activities.
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I'm getting great speeds with 3G, however I do use wifi when I can!
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I'm getting great speeds with 3G, however I do use wifi when I can!
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I use wifi about 60 percent of the time. but Id like to be able to search or do some 3g things without waiting for the pages to load.
What part of phoenix are you in mostly?
Tell me about it its part of my heart too