Sure the phone has a big screen. Yes it's easier to see things than my Wifes Dinc. No I dont think it is worth it, lets review.
All these issues/problems? happen rooted or not, or rooted without removing Bloat.
Rooted with Following Bloatware removed,
Blockbuster
City ID
Amazon
Youtube
3G hotspot
NFS
Issues........
Keyboard puts period in instead of space when typing, especially when typing fast. Had all features turned off like spell check, etc. Got so bad it would put a period in when I hit the H key or something, and I had to type real slow. Then there would be a delay in typing. I would start typing away and there would be no animation or...typing in the text box, then it would seem like the phone woke up and all of a sudden an entire sentence shows up.
Screen would not recognize touch. Could not unlock phone, could not scroll, if my finger got close to the screen it would select something and open it, but not scroll. Even though I was not touching screen. At times No response. Cleaned screen, cleaned hands. Tried clean hands, dirty hands, sweaty , etc. all same results.
Extreme slow response time. I would unlock phone, select app drawer, it would take 20 seconds before the app drawer would open, or if an app would open, or if the cursor would let me start typing, I had gone through 2 days of dealing with that BS.
Speaker. Oh this one is good...
So one day I notice the phone vibrates, yet no audio. So I check the volume, yup its up, check settings, ok all good. So I decide to play a song, its playing but just next to nothing for volume. I fiddle a bit and said Eff it, I reboot the phone. Audio is back to normal. Seems every 2 days or so I need to reboot the phone so I can hear any audio from speaker.
Random Lock ups.....
BT drops and then phone shows speakerphone button highlighted and BT button highlighted yet no audio from phone call from either BT or Speakerphone.
Unrooted bone stock with only a few apps on phone,
Same **** mentioned above.
Im tired of this. Can someone tell me what I need to do to have a stable Dx?.
Currently the phone is not rooted, and I am still experiencing issues.
I have documented these issues with the Big V as they happen, but have not done anything but order one for my wife gee looking forward to that mess, she loves to load up the apps.......
Try wiping your cache partition from recovery mode. If that doesn't work you can use the now available sbf to get your X back to factory. Now leave the bloatware alone and root again.
I agree with TF. try wiping the phone (I would suggest complete flash if possible) and see if same stuff happens.
I think you may have a bad phone. If the software reset doesn't fix it, See if VZW will exchange it. I've not had any of the problems you describe. And the fact that you are having screen/touch issues, and there was a small batch of phones with screen problems, tells me you may be one of the "lucky:
Don't have much to say, i've only had one reboot and that was bc of rogue app and i had on complete freeze but my battery was less than 10% while actually on this forum, other than that it has been smooth as butter for the most part. I came from the DInc and wouldn't switch back for anything
sent from Shawn Micheals...The heartbreak Kid
I forogt to mention I did unroot, then wipe, then left it stock, still have same issues.
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I forogt to mention I did unroot, then wipe, then left it stock, still have same issues.
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Unfortunately, wiping (factory Reset) doesn't completely restore all of the files. As evidenced by other threads where people changed/removed some APK's and were left in a boot loop when they did a reset.
I'm still leaning towards you having a bad piece of hardware, but it would be better to rule out the software environment first. Thus, it may be worth learning how to flash the new SBF file. That should truly put your phone back in 'out of the box' condition.
To get outta the box you need to use the .sbf file then factory reset. Just using the.sbf leaves all apps and data. Have done .sbf from linux and windows with no problems.remember to *228 option 1 after to reactivate. Would give this a try then bring in for warranty if it doesn't solve it
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you def have a bad phone...exchange it.
I've never had any of these problems, except for the ****ty speaker.
There is as 17+ page thread on Motos forum about the rebooting issue. I just jumped ship from Verizon and went with Sprint.
I could of handled the phone issues and waited for the 2.2 update, however working for Verizon I was in awe of the ****ty service by one particular Verizon store. On a Evo now with 2.2
Yes my phone is a beast. Much more so than the evo. I owned the DInc so yes i know EXACTLY how the evo runs. I definitely think there was an initial bad batch that went out, just like every other phone, evo and dinc, and iphone, and all the galaxy phones that went out. Im in love with this phone
sent from Shawn Micheals...The heartbreak Kid
mine works fine
Mine runs like a champ, get yours exchanged before the 30 days runs out. Simple and easy fix.
Mine is rock solid... works great... this should be a comfort to you... since all you have to do is exchange it for another one.. then you should be good!
Loving mine, glad I waited several weeks to jump on it, after the screen issues, speaker issues, I ended up getting a flawless device, speaker isnt like my tp2, but I havent missed any calls or had any issues hearing it like many others. After being burned time after time, think im gonna wait on pulling the trigger on every phone I get from now on!
this phone is definitely a beast, love it, coming from a Dinc, i have to say the X blows it out the water...
you may have a bad phone...
did u experience the issues you listed prior to rooting? if no, then theres your answer and follow the advice listed earlier about flashing the phone back
You're not by chance running a task killer set to kill everything are you?
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alright when i first got my phone i never had a problem with a typing delay. but now my phone is 6 mopnths old and i am now having lots of problems. fristly a few weeks ago i had to do a complete factory reset becuse my phone totally went rretarted. i was sitting in a restuarant and i was txting someone and her name is tiffany. i texted her and then the next message she sent me showed her number in stead of her name(like from tiffany now says from 72789846) but i didnt think anything of it like maybe she had her friends phone or something. so i didnt do anything about it. and then i got home that night and fell asleep and when i awoke i had 2 missed called so i clicked missed calls on the htc home plug in and the phone totally locked up. i reset it and upod reset i found that i cannot make calls. cant recieve calls. it said i didnt have service. couldnt go online . lost all my contacts. and the only thing i could do is text. i was furious of course. this would be the second time this year i lost all my contacts! So i called sprint and they could do nothing for me. So i did a factory reset and sucked it up!. this itself is a huge prblem becuase i no longer trust my phone at all. but i reset it and then found the new sprint rom so i loaded that on there (2nd format basicly) and its all good i suppose. its a little bit slower than it used to be. but now my cpu is as 90-95% with nothing running. slowing down my ppc to almost a standstill. it takes a very long time to open anything. but thats not why im bothered. now whenever i type the typeing delay is sooooooooo badd.. i will type a full text message and it wont type anything then i will put my phone down and 5 seconds or so later the message will be typing itself!. i want this to be fixed. also i want to speed up my phone because its very agrivating. a cheap 20 dollar phone is faster than this 350 dollar POS. but i am forced to live with my phone. and its a dam shame because i love the phone. i love everything you can do. but i want to be able to do those things well..i mean i paid 350$ for a good phone not frustration. if anyone can be of assistance please post thank you
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alright when i first got my phone i never had a problem with a typing delay. but now my phone is 6 mopnths old and i am now having lots of problems. fristly a few weeks ago i had to do a complete factory reset becuse my phone totally went rretarted. i was sitting in a restuarant and i was txting someone and her name is tiffany. i texted her and then the next message she sent me showed her number in stead of her name(like from tiffany now says from 72789846) but i didnt think anything of it like maybe she had her friends phone or something. so i didnt do anything about it. and then i got home that night and fell asleep and when i awoke i had 2 missed called so i clicked missed calls on the htc home plug in and the phone totally locked up. i reset it and upod reset i found that i cannot make calls. cant recieve calls. it said i didnt have service. couldnt go online . lost all my contacts. and the only thing i could do is text. i was furious of course. this would be the second time this year i lost all my contacts! So i called sprint and they could do nothing for me. So i did a factory reset and sucked it up!. this itself is a huge prblem becuase i no longer trust my phone at all. but i reset it and then found the new sprint rom so i loaded that on there (2nd format basicly) and its all good i suppose. its a little bit slower than it used to be. but now my cpu is as 90-95% with nothing running. slowing down my ppc to almost a standstill. it takes a very long time to open anything. but thats not why im bothered. now whenever i type the typeing delay is sooooooooo badd.. i will type a full text message and it wont type anything then i will put my phone down and 5 seconds or so later the message will be typing itself!. i want this to be fixed. also i want to speed up my phone because its very agrivating. a cheap 20 dollar phone is faster than this 350 dollar POS. but i am forced to live with my phone. and its a dam shame because i love the phone. i love everything you can do. but i want to be able to do those things well..i mean i paid 350$ for a good phone not frustration. if anyone can be of assistance please post thank you
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I am sorry, that is one of the hardest things to read I have ever seen on this board. Good luck to you and to whoever can read that and find an answer for you.
OP: I have to agree with RevSand.
I Tried - really, I did. But, the simple fact is, my eyes crossed trying to read that ?paragraph?
You'll have much better luck getting a response if you
A) shorten that whole thing to include relevant details
B) don't type it like you're typing a text message
C) Line breaks. Paragraph Breaks.
People on message boards (myself included) generally browse through pretty quickly. VERY long winded and difficult to read posts often get read 5% of the way through, and not finished. I'm sure you can see why this would be detrimental to your getting a response/solution.
Have a great day,
Ben
xxbarrxx said:
alright when i first got my phone i never had a problem with a typing delay. but now my phone is 6 mopnths old and i am now having lots of problems. fristly a few weeks ago i had to do a complete factory reset becuse my phone totally went rretarted. i was sitting in a restuarant and i was txting someone and her name is tiffany. i texted her and then the next message she sent me showed her number in stead of her name(like from tiffany now says from 72789846) but i didnt think anything of it like maybe she had her friends phone or something. so i didnt do anything about it. and then i got home that night and fell asleep and when i awoke i had 2 missed called so i clicked missed calls on the htc home plug in and the phone totally locked up. i reset it and upod reset i found that i cannot make calls. cant recieve calls. it said i didnt have service. couldnt go online . lost all my contacts. and the only thing i could do is text. i was furious of course. this would be the second time this year i lost all my contacts! So i called sprint and they could do nothing for me. So i did a factory reset and sucked it up!. this itself is a huge prblem becuase i no longer trust my phone at all. but i reset it and then found the new sprint rom so i loaded that on there (2nd format basicly) and its all good i suppose. its a little bit slower than it used to be. but now my cpu is as 90-95% with nothing running. slowing down my ppc to almost a standstill. it takes a very long time to open anything. but thats not why im bothered. now whenever i type the typeing delay is sooooooooo badd.. i will type a full text message and it wont type anything then i will put my phone down and 5 seconds or so later the message will be typing itself!. i want this to be fixed. also i want to speed up my phone because its very agrivating. a cheap 20 dollar phone is faster than this 350 dollar POS. but i am forced to live with my phone. and its a dam shame because i love the phone. i love everything you can do. but i want to be able to do those things well..i mean i paid 350$ for a good phone not frustration. if anyone can be of assistance please post thank you
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I suggest finding a reliable ROM from either DCD kitchens or no2chem. Then uploading it into your phone ( sprint rom ofcourse ) maybe the tweaks they have made can help you out.
But if you want to stay at a stock rom ( with out GPS or Rev.A ) im sure DCD has a very stable rom for that too, or you can exchange your phone for a new one if everything else fails.
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I suggest finding a reliable ROM from either DCD kitchens or no2chem. Then uploading it into your phone ( sprint rom ofcourse ) maybe the tweaks they have made can help you out....
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I second [email protected]$'s sentiments. I'm using DCD's 3.0.1 ROM and it is great!
The 15 minute solution is to first reflash your phone with the latest Official Sprint Mogul ROM 3.35:
http://www.htc.com/us/FAQ_Detail.aspx?p_id=75&act=sd
This will not only hard reset your device (erases all data), it will upgrade both the operating system and the radio. The upgraded radio enables GPS and also enables even faster data speeds.
Copy the .exe file of dotFred's PIM backup v2.8 (for WM5 & WM6)
http://www.dotfred.net/default.htm
into a directory (doesn't matter) on your Mogul and schedule it to regularly, AUTOMATICALLY backup all of your Contacts (and whatever else you want) onto your MicroSD every night.
There is LOTS of detailed information in this great forum about this. For further info on the Stock Sprint upgrade you can also check out:
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=20641
Depending upon your job or environment, it is possible that you subjected your Mogul to an electric shock or EMP of some sort that might happen again (which could erase or corrupt your personal data), so you probably want to make a habit of backing up/synchronizing your unit with your desktop PC.
If you want to use a customized ROM, I would recommend one of DCD's latest. At the top of the "Titan Upgrading" section of XDA-Developers, you'll see DCD's latest ROM "dcd's titan ROMs & kitchen 3.0.4" or you can do a search for "DCD titan Rom 3.0.1" and select the .exe "Sprint ROM" made by |||bored||| posted by DCD in the first post. These can speed up your device even more and offer some nice features.
However there are some careful (but easy) steps that you'll want to follow when upgrading to a customized ROM, so I strongly recommend reading the forums carefully. I found this one helpful:
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=17667
Also, because most of the customized ROMs are streamlined to operate faster and more efficiently, some features that you MIGHT want have been disabled or removed. Browsing the forums can help identify how to re-enable/re-install any of these that are important to you. That being said, they've added LOTs of nice features not available on the stock ROM.
Earlier, my G2 shut off on me about 5 times. -_-
First, I had it sitting in the car ,tried to take a pic but the stupid voice recognition menu kept coming up so I gave up and set it down in the console. When I got home, the phone felt warm and was.. off.
Then, I turned it on.. stuffed it in my pocket. A moment later, I pulled it out and YET AGAIN when I pushed the button I was greeted by a quick vibe and the HTC screen -_-
Then a few minutes later I ran a speed test (checking HSPA+ out in Vegas).. put it down on the table.. come back.. PHONE IS *(@#% DEAD AGAIN.
I HATE YOU! *glares at phone*
It's killing me because it either happens several times in a row, or doesn't happen for days! I've tried replacing the sim card, replacing the SD card.. moving the battery... no dice.
Maybe it's my SIM card? Would that cause it? My last phone did that -_- And I'm silly to have not yet changed the SIM lol
Good thing I have a spare sitting in my bag.
What battery are you using? Aftermarket? Is so, did you remove the sticker around the battery? If you did then make sure you place a piece of tape on the battery to avoid making contact with the metal sd card holder. The metal on metal causes it to shut down.
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Interesting. I've also been having random shutdowns (not reboots, which I've seen mentioned elsewhere, due to a hardware fault) --
HTC Desire Z, using default battery, but I'll try isolating it anyway with a slip of paper or something.
OP you on a custom rom with overclock? maybe your clocking your phone too high or low?
Also if the phone for whatever reason gets too hot or cold it will turn itself off.
Please see this forum: Phone powers down and won't turn back on w/o pulling the battery
I strongly believe that this may be an issue with the GPS and/or Google Maps. Once I have the GPS off, this has not occurred. Can anyone else try this?
I have the Bell Desire Z NAM with stock HTC Sense 2.2 ROM.
It seems to be quite prevalent, see the bottom of this review: T-Mobile G2 is speedy sequel to original Android
I think you may be onto something with that GPS note, but my phone doesnt' need the battery pulled to restart.
Also, it's running the stock firmware, stock battery (just exchanged battery and got a new SIM card yesterday, and it shut off again today.. so those aren't the problem)... so any issues I'm having are 100% stock related...
This time it shut off after using Maps so....
i read somewhere (trying to find the source) that some G2's were experiencing random restarts / shutdowns due to low signal strength. Not sure how valid this is but you might want to look into this as well.
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i read somewhere (trying to find the source) that some G2's were experiencing random restarts / shutdowns due to low signal strength. Not sure how valid this is but you might want to look into this as well.
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This was true before we received the first OTA update. Since then though the problem has been fixed.
I think it was definitely the GPS, that said I just got done with a really long phone call about this and have a replacement on the way.. but that was way too much effort AND I have to pay shipping (it's not much, but seriously.) I'm not happy that T-Mobile was THAT big a pain in the butt about getting the phone replaced with a new one in the 30 day return period.
Going by the pointers one of my close friends on sprint (that used to be on AT&T) gave me, I'd say this could've been worse with another provider.. but it shouldn't have been. The reception isn't the best so the customer service should make up for that, and it sorta does.. but it sorta doesn't.
Oh well.
I have been experiencing almost the same thing for the past week or so. I have tried a few things such as lowering clock speeds, changing roms, and not using maps or GPS. Nothing has stopped the shutdowns. I cant seem to find a pattern in the things the phone is doing when it shuts off because it rarely does it when i have the screen on, also it never does it if music is playing or if i am watching a video. I will say that it seems to happen alot when i am in spots i know are dead spots for phone signal. I flash roms a fair amount so it is hard to say this has started after flashing a rom, but I will say it never did this before I flashed my first sensui 3.0 rom.
I am thinking its one of two things, something with the radio and/or its firmware or something with the sdcard because at least one senseui 3.0 rom said something about sdcard formatting.
I hope all this helps the smart people come up with idea on what wrong with our phones.
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I have been experiencing almost the same thing for the past week or so. I have tried a few things such as lowering clock speeds, changing roms, and not using maps or GPS. Nothing has stopped the shutdowns. I cant seem to find a pattern in the things the phone is doing when it shuts off because it rarely does it when i have the screen on, also it never does it if music is playing or if i am watching a video. I will say that it seems to happen alot when i am in spots i know are dead spots for phone signal. I flash roms a fair amount so it is hard to say this has started after flashing a rom, but I will say it never did this before I flashed my first sensui 3.0 rom.
I am thinking its one of two things, something with the radio and/or its firmware or something with the sdcard because at least one senseui 3.0 rom said something about sdcard formatting.
I hope all this helps the smart people come up with idea on what wrong with our phones.
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My Desire Z had the same problem and I returned it to HTC Service for repair. They said they change some cables? and a new battery. It has been nearly 3 days and I haven't experienced a single shutdown but there was one time it restarted by itself.
Yeah my only problem with that is, I am close to my upgrade date. How much did it cost. I may still do it so I can give this phone to my kid brother.
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Just to update, I found that I can make it do it some times when playing with opening the hinge.
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Possible cause/fix found
I posted this in another thread here regarding the same problem but it appears it may have been overlooked so I'll post the info again in hopes of helping you and others having this problem.
A possible cause/fix has been found as posted on the T-mobile forums:
http://forums.t-mobile.com/t5/T-Mobile-G2/G2-Turning-off-by-itself/td-p/513575/page/4
There is a conductive metal strip along the back of the battery that looks like it may be shorting out. Check out the link for detailed fix with pics. I take no credit for this, just posting it since I'm experiencing this problem too.
Talked to tmobile CS today and was trying to get a replacement because my phone would randomly reboot and shut off. All he told me was go and pick up a new sim card. If that didn't help then they would be willing to give me a warranty replacement.
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carquote said:
I posted this in another thread here regarding the same problem but it appears it may have been overlooked so I'll post the info again in hopes of helping you and others having this problem.
A possible cause/fix has been found as posted on the T-mobile forums:
http://forums.t-mobile.com/t5/T-Mobi.../513575/page/4
There is a conductive metal strip along the back of the battery that looks like it may be shorting out. Check out the link for detailed fix with pics. I take no credit for this, just posting it since I'm experiencing this problem too.
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Clicking your link all I got was an empty T-Mobile page with the message "Page not found" and some some java script error message when closing the window.
Is this possible fix something else than lining the back of the battery with a strip of paper?
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Clicking your link all I got was an empty T-Mobile page with the message "Page not found" and some some java script error message when closing the window.
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Sorry about that, I fixed the link and it should be working now.
Cool, thanks!
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I'm pretty sure mine is not caused by the metal strip since my battery's all proofed. I didn't have anything wrong with it until about half a month ago, and it always happened after using GPS and left it on. If I turn it off after navigation or any other app that requires GPS the phone won't go into SOD.
I switched back to CM7 RC2 around that time and starting to get the GPS no fix problem, and it could't be fixed by the dd=/dev/.... script. So I switched into Nightly 88 or something that at least I was able to get a fix but the not-so-random freezing started.
This morning I flashed the new 7.1.0 RC1 and the phone would just turn itself off (it used to just freeze and become hot), and I got really tired of it... My old G1 was much more reliable than this.
I tried the dd=/dev script again, so far after 5 min the phone is still on with GPS on....
@carcuote
Thank you! I haven't had this issue for months now. But the solution is so easy to do that I will try our anyways.
I had this issue the first month our so when I got the new phone, but went away permanently after the second month. Maybe the contacts in the battery got a little rusted? Don't know but the solution is simple enough to try...
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Looking for some advice/help. I got my wife the Evo Shift a couple of weeks ago. Her phone has not been rooted and other than a few added apps the phone is completely stock. The phone reboots on her 4 and 5 times a day. She does not have any kind of task killer installed so that's not it. She plays Angry Birds a lot and uses Pandora quite a bit. I have also installed Sound Manager for her. Other than that I can't think of anything that would be helpful for trouble shooting. I have searched here and through Google and have not seen any info of others having this problem. I am not sure if I should root the thing or return it to best buy. I have the Evo and previously the Hero and am no stranger to rooting or custom ROMs. Just really did not see the need to root it since my wife has no idea about any of that. Any help or advice will be appreciated.
Thanks.
root and install nfinitefx's or mik's rom; you'll have less trouble than if it was stock.
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root and install nfinitefx's or mik's rom; you'll have less trouble than if it was stock.
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That's what I was thinking. I am a little worried its a hardware problem though. I guess I could always flash back to stock and return it if that doesn't fix it.
hell return it ya got nothing to lose but a headache
Did you try a factory reset?
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Did you try a factory reset?
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Not yet. I did get some more info from my wife though. It only happens when she is at work. And she says she get some sort of "radio error". I'm starting to think it might have something to do with the building she is in. She had my hero for a couple months before I got her the shift and had no problems. It had CM 6.1 running though.
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Not yet. I did get some more info from my wife though. It only happens when she is at work. And she says she get some sort of "radio error". I'm starting to think it might have something to do with the building she is in. She had my hero for a couple months before I got her the shift and had no problems. It had CM 6.1 running though.
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im running mine stock and rooted and dont have any problems with reboots. sounds like a app is probably screwing something up
i had a similar problem with one of the streaming media apps i used to use a month or so ago i cant remember the name but for some reason if i lost signal it would crash the phone and need to be rebooted
i took it off and installed tuneinradio and it worked better anyways
My shift was rebooting itself 3 to 4 times a day, I just rooted it and it seemed to stop rebooting itself for a day. Now its starting to reboot itself again, but not as often.
I am almost convinced its a hardware problem. Sounds too rare to be anything else. Maybe bad memory or something.
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I had a freezing issue with my phone which people suggested possible due to pandora and bluetooth. Perhaps you have the same issue?
Anyway, try to find "bluetooth for automotive" settings for pandora and turn it off.
I wouldn't recommend rooting your phone if you think its broken. You might just end up breaking it further and render your warranty void.
If you can't fix it, get sprint to replace it.
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This may be resolved by now, but I got my shift previously used. When I first activated it, I was getting some radio errors and I could not make calls or send sms messages, but the email worked fine. I contacted Sprint customer service via chat from the website and they did something from their end to fix it. I had to turn off my phone and she said now wait till I tell you to turn it back on. I waited 5 minutes and when I turned it back on, everything was fine. So I would take it in or contact Sprint and see what they say. As for not sure if you wanna root it for her, I would definitely recommened it, she doesn't have to take advantage of all the advanced tweak that some use but it will just make the phone a lot smoother and easier to use. IMHO.
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This may be resolved by now, but I got my shift previously used. When I first activated it, I was getting some radio errors and I could not make calls or send sms messages, but the email worked fine. I contacted Sprint customer service via chat from the website and they did something from their end to fix it. I had to turn off my phone and she said now wait till I tell you to turn it back on. I waited 5 minutes and when I turned it back on, everything was fine. So I would take it in or contact Sprint and see what they say. As for not sure if you wanna root it for her, I would definitely recommened it, she doesn't have to take advantage of all the advanced tweak that some use but it will just make the phone a lot smoother and easier to use. IMHO.
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Thanks for the input. I think I'm going to go ahead and root it. After keeping an eye on the situation its seems its only happening when she is at work. I can't imagine it will fix it but I think its worth a shot.
I think I fixed mine. I tried to use navigation and it kept force closing, that was strange because I've used it before with no problems. I googled around and found some info that if you had another text to speak engine in your phone then uninstalled it without setting it back to pico as default it would cause nav to FC, which is what I had done. So I set it back and checked "Always use my settings" in the Voice section of settings, nav started working and the reboot issue went away for the past 7 days.
I don't really know crap about phones and most tech stuff for that matter (heck 99% of what is said in these forums goes over my head) but I think why this fixed it is either nav or some app was trying to use pico or something and when it couldn't the phone would get an error and reboot itself. I may be wrong (probably am) but maybe she deleted something or changed a setting some app needs and that is causing her problem. Hope this helps in someway or at least gives you another direction to start checking.
Here's how I bricked my phone, for the ones who're interested:
I think it's a pretty funny story, so keep reading if you're searching for some entertaining story.
So I Bought a flipout because I wanted a small phone. I was pretty satisfied by the phone and it's performance, althought it's kinda an effeminate phone. Anyways, before I knew it (When I booted up the phone for the first time) I was disgusted by Orange's laggy intro: it was supposed to be an explosion followed by an implosion which created the Orange logo (sort of XBOX style). The reality was less: a very laggy 2 or 3 fps intro. Bravo Orange if you were actually aiming for this rate.
When I boot up the phone it shows the menu just like any other phone, but it came with another disgusting fact: MotoBlur. Lag, lag and lag. There it was, in all it's glory:
- It's laggy (not as much as Orange's intro...)
- Uses default services (calendar, gallery) with some unfinished 3D features (that caused needless lag)
- "Happenings" which connects your twitter, facebook and other things.
Although I have to say, I did like the lil tab that shows above and tells you on which screen you were. It looks kinda like the following (excuse me my drawing skills):
.: : . |^| . : :.
resp. -3 -2 -1 0 +1 +2 +3
Anyways, I had to get rid of this "MotoBlur" and the first thing I had to do was to root my device. I remember the days with the G1 which were a hassle to just root your phone, so I was hesitating if I really wanted to go through all this again...
But after a lil search, I found that nowadays we have superoneclick, androot, z4root, etc... etc... So I tried one of these "new" apk's which gave me a small error, so then I tried z4root which was quite easy, fast and simple. I was in. Things were going my way, hell, I even found a brand-new-looking 4GB microSD on my work. Just out of nowhere there it was, very small, laying down on the ground waiting for me to get picked up.
What goes up, must go down...
So there I was with my first steps trying to remove MotoBlur, and although I knew there were tut's about how to remove Orange and Blur, I just couldnt wait. I made backups of my system apk's with Titanium which was quite easy, and it was that precise moment when I was like "GET!", i'm sick of this MotoBlur, let's remove these "things". They are right in front of me, just get rid of them... And while continuously hitting the "remove" button I was daydreaming of a simple usefull handy phone. Bam, bam, bam, I deleted one app after the other, even Google Talk didn't had a chance. Everything was going smooth, bye Blur.Calendar.apk, bye odex, bye Blur.gallery.apk, bye Blur.happenings.apk,... ... ... about 20 apk's later, I was quite satisfied.
But you know how it goes when you just delete stuff without greater knowledge. You BRICK your phone. But people, this was just the start. I had some force close after this one man operation, but my phone was smoother. I have to admit, things were comming unexpected. First I couldnt find my gallery (removed). Then I found out I couldnt download anymore from the Android Market because I deleted Blur.calendar.apk which is connected with Calendar.apk which syncs my G-Mail account which is needed before you can download anything from the Market. Hah! Owned.
Backups.
So there I was having these problems, but the phone still works great. I have to admit I silently thought: luckely I made a backup, and was kinda proud I wasn't one of those noobs who just goes forward without a save game, right? Right? Guys...? Anyone...? . ... ...Wrong! The reality was I couldn't even "restore" with Titanium. The backups weren't real backups, but just data-backups which were stored on my sdcard in .tar format. Aaarrgh!
No problem, no problem. There has to be a way to fix this, someone did this stupidity before me. Obviously. Ofcourse. No?
When I was searching about why I couldn't fix my Titanium backups, someone answered to someone else that's because he couldn't sideload the apps. He needs to root his phone in a way so sideloading is enabled. Great! Sideloading it will be then.
Sideloading is def a great way to install .apk's without the market, because I tried a factory reset (hoping that would solve everything) and I couldn't download anymore from the market. I had to sideload ASTRO which was successful with the right ADB drivers - even though I didn't knew what ADB meant I did register on MotoDev's website (so I can download the little bastard).
Easy peasy. Now I'm back on track with ASTRO and an easy install of Flan Gallery (fixed camera) replaced my gallery. We're off to set!
Despite this minor victory I was aware I'm still not were I wanted to be. Factory reset doesn't get me were I want to be and I'm still having issues. But no problem no problem. This time I'll turn my questions to the community, not google. That's eventually why there is a community? That's why we are open source? Yes. Score. Win.
So maybe some knowledgeable people will reply because they can help the ones who are trying to learn. I think I'll start with how to fix the calendar-issue and then I'll try to make a ROM-backup, so I can install a new ROM or whatever. That's probably a better idea then before. Cool, I even got a quick reply by someone who told me to go to this-and-this site, which is better for noobs. Allrighty then...
Trying my own way.
Since things weren't going were I wanted to, I thought now it's time to give it a real last try by searching about this mystery "ADB" and eventually to push some apps into system/app/ so I could fix all this misery. I found what I was searching for, however the tut about how to push apps sounded like someone was holding a gun against the writer's head. It really sounded like he wrote it against his will.
Desperate attempts.
I started today (15 april) around 5pm local time with this whole pushing-thing because I thought I had the knowledge that I needed and even surprised myself by actually successfuly pushing some apk's using a quick and nice XDA how-to, but then things went from worse to worser. I pushed Blur.calendar.apk, Blur.service.apk, Blur.email.apk, Blur, Blur, Blur... Ironically thát what I wanted to remove at the start came voluntary back in my system/app/ of my phone.
That's quite funny especially when I rebooted my phone and I kept getting force close com.motorola.blur.service.main and I couldn't get around this except by using voice-commands (double tap home button). "Find ASTRO" I said. Finding ASTRO... Opening ASTRO... Ingenious! It was quite amazing that this feature actually works without any bugs or misunderstandings. So I started root manager, rebooted the system with r/w settings so I can try a final attempt by trying to remove blur-service.apk from the system/app/ which actually didn't had any impact. Nothing really happened.
The end.
And there I was having these problems, and the phone doesn't work. A friend of me adviced me on Steam-chat to hard-reset the phone. I could care less, but we had a little discussion about what has more effect hard-reset or factory-reset? Btw... Holding down the power button and the camera button...?! The phone doesn't even has a camera button! Hilarious.
I eventually did the hard-reset with another tut and now the phone is... ehm... kinda... pretty... bricked. It just boots up and then gives 1 continously looping force close of the blur service (which I allready had), and another force close when I finish setting up the blur account wizard. At the end of the wizard it just force close and shows the wizard again,... and again... and again...
Mathematical summon:
+1 noob
+1 bricked phone
- $$$
- (a lot of) time
+ frustrations/stress
+1 story
Equals a possitive outcome?
i've not rooted my Flipout as it seems there's not much you can do with a rooted one anyway
but I've done bad flashes before...many times
and i've always been able to rescue those phones by flashing the original rom. just wondering if this might be an option for you..
See if you can flash that device using RSDLite, I can see some tuts in this board that features this, likely that debranding guide. Hold up+power when it's off and boot into flash mode, not camera+power
A brick = a dead phone, no boot, no flicker, nothing. If it acts like a brick it's a brick, otherwise it's just a messed up phone. I'm sure you'll be able to recover yours...
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Moto phone + rsdlite + flipout sbf= fixed phone. Just find those two things and you can restore your phone back to fresh out of the box state again. Promise.
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Yeap i just did it first try hold "up" button on the keyboard + power for 4 sec then plug usb. in flex options i checked everything and it all went god then
(i tried posting this thread this morning but the post did not post successfully because of the image verification thing. if this post was reposted, please let me know)
hello and thank you for taking the time to read my first post. been having an issue with my new phone and i havent the faintest idea on how to diagnose or fix my problem. i am in no ways a developer or knowledgeable in programming what so ever, but i have delved in "script kiddie" roots and customs roms with my older phones trying to breathe new life into those devices as an excuse to not have to buy an older phone, but eventually my samsung note 5 kicked the bucket and wasnt able to keep up with the amount of apps and multitasking i do for work. a friend of mine recommended that i buy a one plus 6t as its not only one of the latest phones (okay not the latest, but still fairly new) , but it was also cheap as hell on ebay for about 250$ for a used one with some slight burn-in in the display (the ghost image suggests this unit was a display model, but its a handy phone and i dont care at all).
Anyways, long story short; friend is a big tech guy and recommend that id root the phone and install a custom ROM (A.K.A paranoid OS) for greater usability and security. since he was way more knowledgeable with this phone than i was in the 2-3 days of owning it; i decided to let him go ahead and do it for me.
the phone runs amazing, and ive used it for work for a few weeks now and it has lived up to my expectations and more... except for 2 issues.
the main issue that this thread is focused on is android auto. on my friends phone, it works great! hooks up and connects every time he plugs in the cable, audio smooth, gps and other features i never knew existed with my old phone. my 6t on the other hand, works when it wants to.
it never connects to the radio and tells me that it cant connect through notifications. after some experimenting, i found out that it does connect; you just have to go to "USB Preferences" in the phone, plug the phone in, see the options light up under ""usb controlled by"", then tap on a different option (even though it wont switch) and tap it again multiple times until the phone connects.
once it does connect, it works great. until you start listening to music. the music cuts out every now and then. sometimes for 1 second, 3 seconds, or 30 seconds. its very random. other stuff that happens is that the UI on the radio flickers constantly or disappears and the resolution looks cut off or looks wonky on different sides of the radio. sometimes its one or the other. i told my friend about it, and he tried clearing caches, force stopping the app, even completely removing the google play service plugin and reinstalling it, but still nothing. after he tried it, i had phone hooked up to the radio for work, it worked fine for a few hours until everything froze and my phone went completely black and a bunch of colorful letters on my screen pop up that say "CRASH DUMP". phone reboots just fine and works fine but the issues before the crash still happen.
the second issue is that my fingerprint sensor detects fingers but cant read anything, but thats the least of my concerns and i dont care if it doesnt work.
my friend has no idea what else to do and i am kind of disappointment but i still want this to work. although i have no idea where to start or what to do.
if your willing to help an inexperienced dude get his phone working, that would be greatly appreciated. other than that, i hope you have a good day
EDIT:: just a quick add on to say that ive tried different USB-c cables and this radio is notn aftermarket. im using stock radio on my 2019 nissan altima
Wingman626 said:
(i tried posting this thread this morning but the post did not post successfully because of the image verification thing. if this post was reposted, please let me know)
hello and thank you for taking the time to read my first post. been having an issue with my new phone and i havent the faintest idea on how to diagnose or fix my problem. i am in no ways a developer or knowledgeable in programming what so ever, but i have delved in "script kiddie" roots and customs roms with my older phones trying to breathe new life into those devices as an excuse to not have to buy an older phone, but eventually my samsung note 5 kicked the bucket and wasnt able to keep up with the amount of apps and multitasking i do for work. a friend of mine recommended that i buy a one plus 6t as its not only one of the latest phones (okay not the latest, but still fairly new) , but it was also cheap as hell on ebay for about 250$ for a used one with some slight burn-in in the display (the ghost image suggests this unit was a display model, but its a handy phone and i dont care at all).
Anyways, long story short; friend is a big tech guy and recommend that id root the phone and install a custom ROM (A.K.A paranoid OS) for greater usability and security. since he was way more knowledgeable with this phone than i was in the 2-3 days of owning it; i decided to let him go ahead and do it for me.
the phone runs amazing, and ive used it for work for a few weeks now and it has lived up to my expectations and more... except for 2 issues.
the main issue that this thread is focused on is android auto. on my friends phone, it works great! hooks up and connects every time he plugs in the cable, audio smooth, gps and other features i never knew existed with my old phone. my 6t on the other hand, works when it wants to.
it never connects to the radio and tells me that it cant connect through notifications. after some experimenting, i found out that it does connect; you just have to go to "USB Preferences" in the phone, plug the phone in, see the options light up under ""usb controlled by"", then tap on a different option (even though it wont switch) and tap it again multiple times until the phone connects.
once it does connect, it works great. until you start listening to music. the music cuts out every now and then. sometimes for 1 second, 3 seconds, or 30 seconds. its very random. other stuff that happens is that the UI on the radio flickers constantly or disappears and the resolution looks cut off or looks wonky on different sides of the radio. sometimes its one or the other. i told my friend about it, and he tried clearing caches, force stopping the app, even completely removing the google play service plugin and reinstalling it, but still nothing. after he tried it, i had phone hooked up to the radio for work, it worked fine for a few hours until everything froze and my phone went completely black and a bunch of colorful letters on my screen pop up that say "CRASH DUMP". phone reboots just fine and works fine but the issues before the crash still happen.
the second issue is that my fingerprint sensor detects fingers but cant read anything, but thats the least of my concerns and i dont care if it doesnt work.
my friend has no idea what else to do and i am kind of disappointment but i still want this to work. although i have no idea where to start or what to do.
if your willing to help an inexperienced dude get his phone working, that would be greatly appreciated. other than that, i hope you have a good day
EDIT:: just a quick add on to say that ive tried different USB-c cables and this radio is notn aftermarket. im using stock radio on my 2019 nissan altima
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Just msm it and run the latest Oxygen OS. There is a MSM tool thread that will assist you and, also a Oxygen OS thread too. This will solve what you mentioned are your issues
Wingman626 said:
(i tried posting this thread this morning but the post did not post successfully because of the image verification thing. if this post was reposted, please let me know)
hello and thank you for taking the time to read my first post. been having an issue with my new phone and i havent the faintest idea on how to diagnose or fix my problem. i am in no ways a developer or knowledgeable in programming what so ever, but i have delved in "script kiddie" roots and customs roms with my older phones trying to breathe new life into those devices as an excuse to not have to buy an older phone, but eventually my samsung note 5 kicked the bucket and wasnt able to keep up with the amount of apps and multitasking i do for work. a friend of mine recommended that i buy a one plus 6t as its not only one of the latest phones (okay not the latest, but still fairly new) , but it was also cheap as hell on ebay for about 250$ for a used one with some slight burn-in in the display (the ghost image suggests this unit was a display model, but its a handy phone and i dont care at all).
Anyways, long story short; friend is a big tech guy and recommend that id root the phone and install a custom ROM (A.K.A paranoid OS) for greater usability and security. since he was way more knowledgeable with this phone than i was in the 2-3 days of owning it; i decided to let him go ahead and do it for me.
the phone runs amazing, and ive used it for work for a few weeks now and it has lived up to my expectations and more... except for 2 issues.
the main issue that this thread is focused on is android auto. on my friends phone, it works great! hooks up and connects every time he plugs in the cable, audio smooth, gps and other features i never knew existed with my old phone. my 6t on the other hand, works when it wants to.
it never connects to the radio and tells me that it cant connect through notifications. after some experimenting, i found out that it does connect; you just have to go to "USB Preferences" in the phone, plug the phone in, see the options light up under ""usb controlled by"", then tap on a different option (even though it wont switch) and tap it again multiple times until the phone connects.
once it does connect, it works great. until you start listening to music. the music cuts out every now and then. sometimes for 1 second, 3 seconds, or 30 seconds. its very random. other stuff that happens is that the UI on the radio flickers constantly or disappears and the resolution looks cut off or looks wonky on different sides of the radio. sometimes its one or the other. i told my friend about it, and he tried clearing caches, force stopping the app, even completely removing the google play service plugin and reinstalling it, but still nothing. after he tried it, i had phone hooked up to the radio for work, it worked fine for a few hours until everything froze and my phone went completely black and a bunch of colorful letters on my screen pop up that say "CRASH DUMP". phone reboots just fine and works fine but the issues before the crash still happen.
the second issue is that my fingerprint sensor detects fingers but cant read anything, but thats the least of my concerns and i dont care if it doesnt work.
my friend has no idea what else to do and i am kind of disappointment but i still want this to work. although i have no idea where to start or what to do.
if your willing to help an inexperienced dude get his phone working, that would be greatly appreciated. other than that, i hope you have a good day
EDIT:: just a quick add on to say that ive tried different USB-c cables and this radio is notn aftermarket. im using stock radio on my 2019 nissan altima
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scorpio76r said:
Just msm it and run the latest Oxygen OS. There is a MSM tool thread that will assist you and, also a Oxygen OS thread too. This will solve what you mentioned are your issues
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I totally agree flash the stock Rom
OOS is amazing. Rooting is easy if you decide you need it.
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Does your friend have the the same phone? It is very common that custom ROM works flawlessly on one model but full of issues on the other, even they are from same manufacturer. The stability of a custom ROM depends on how many active user use the rom. Most of one plus users used oxygen. So not so many people could give you answer.
BTW, I would never advise someone to use custom ROM if they don't know how to flash by themselves.