I'm writing here out of frustration that I've been having with the Acer Iconia.
So I got the tablet about like early last week when it went on sale at Target. The tablet of course came with 3.0.1 and I waited a few days for it to receive the 3.1 update but it always gave me the "your device is up to date" thing. Ok fine so I'll just install the update myself so I updated to the latest version (4.010.11) using the update.zip method. Yay so now I have 3.1!
But of course the problems aren't over.
Before and after the update I had problems with WiFi (unable to connect because of looping) and I'd usually be able to "fix" this problem by resetting my router and modem. But what about when I go to college or any outside public place? I won't be able to go to them and ask them to reset their damn router -___-.
And the other annoying problem: the mic. Yes I've searched about the mic problem and looked at every thread that was created about it. It has to do with the noise canceling, etc. But I can't really video chat when the mic has crappy quality. Ok so I decided to go back to Target and exchange it for a new Acer Iconia (which I did yesterday).
When I got it and opened it, it seemed to be packaged a bit differently than the older tablet and seemed a bit newer (in comparison to the old packaging). And as soon as I connected it to my WiFi, an update appears!!! Cool so as I'm setting up the tablet, 3.1 is downloading in the background. Once it's done and the Tablet resets, everything seems cool. I try out the front cam using the stock Camera app and there was a moment where the camera only showed some odd green screen (as if it was unable to connect to the camera) and in a few seconds everything was cool. I even tried the mic and it was much better. I took it out with my to my friend's place and was able to connect to his internet with no issues. And then I went home and connected to my WiFi and once again it did the looping issue . I tried ignoring it and just reset my router (I tried assuming that it was my router's problem since my computer also has issues sometimes when it comes to reconnecting to WiFi after it turns on from sleep mode).
So then I go to sleep and wake up this morning. I decide to check for an update on my tablet for lulz and to my surprise there was another update (4.010.13)! Go through the update process with the power plugged in, android gear thingy keeps going, and the bar looked like it stopped moving 95% of the way and the tablet reset. So then it turns on and it says that all apk have been loaded but I don't see the "update successful" msg. But then I check "about tablet" and it appeared that it had updated successfully. *whew*
But of course another problem appears. Remember how the front camera had a slight moment? Well I tried using the front camera and it gave me that same green flickering screen and wouldn't show. Once again it appeared to have a problem connecting to the actual hardware camera. I tried force closing the camera app and opening it again but it didn't fix anything. Tried closing and opening the tablet but it didn't fix the problem. Tried pressing the reset button but that didn't fix it. And of course I decided to reset the whole thing but that didn't fix it! And I tried using the front cam with the Google Talk app and it still didn't work (still gave me the green flickering screen).
BLAH! Should I exchange the tablet for another Acer Iconia or just give up on it and get a different one? I honestly like the build of the tablet and all the features it offers (like the ports) but those issues are just stopping me from fully enjoying the tablet and being able to use it for the purposes I got it (video chatting, WiFi, etc.)
EDIT: Here's a video of the problem: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TuAhgWQgCq0&feature=channel_video_title (Ignore the "4.010.13" in the title. I didn't mean to say that all 4.010.13 tablets will have this problem; only meant that my tablet was on 4.010.13)
I'm on my second iconia and absolutely love it. The first was almost perfect, but battery wouldn't charge beyond 88%.
I've tested out every possible thing about it, and everything is completely solid.
To exchange it for another iconia or something else is entirely up to you. I'm just telling you that what you describe I don't experience at all. My wifi connects instantly to whatever signal I tell it to connect to. My cameras also work perfectly. Mic also perfectly and makes me go through to the other side just fine. In fact, I've been using the iconia to have conferences with people I know to discuss about our plan to take over the world.
The point is there will always be a black sheep in the flock. Even the ipad 2, apple's star product and the most sort after tablet right now, is getting reports of problems left and right. The most common seems to be light bleeds and face time freezing.
Go for another tablet if you feel like it. Your choice. I'm just telling you there's such a thing as a perfect iconia, and I have it.
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I'm on my second iconia and absolutely love it. The first was almost perfect, but battery wouldn't charge beyond 88%.
I've tested out every possible thing about it, and everything is completely solid.
To exchange it for another iconia or something else is entirely up to you. I'm just telling you that what you describe I don't experience at all. My wifi connects instantly to whatever signal I tell it to connect to. My cameras also work perfectly. Mic also perfectly and makes me go through to the other side just fine. In fact, I've been using the iconia to have conferences with people I know to discuss about our plan to take over the world.
The point is there will always be a black sheep in the flock. Even the ipad 2, apple's star product and the most sort after tablet right now, is getting reports of problems left and right. The most common seems to be light bleeds and face time freezing.
Go for another tablet if you feel like it. Your choice. I'm just telling you there's such a thing as a perfect iconia, and I have it.
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I understand and respect your good intentions. I'll think about it through out the day and I might exchange it for another Iconia. If another problem arises then I'll just check out another tablet.
Also I added a video of the problem at the bottom of the original post up there ^^^
The wifi issue was an atrocity that affect(s) a lot of people. Mine did it one time right after the 3.1 update, I did a fix on the tablet and it never has done it again, and since the latest update hopefully won't.
It does appear to me that something is wrong with your camera however. Mine has never done that and it does not appear to be a software issue. I think there's something physically wrong with the front facing camera - loose connection or something.
eh maybe the stockboys took their liberties with stock the shelf with iconia. Maybe just have the manager open one up with you and check those eature out before you leave the store. Mine has been great.
All the honeycomb tablets have their issues and run the same hardware so your not missing out leaving this tablet or keeping it. only thing is atleast the xoom gets updates fast(if your subcribing to verizon but the wifi version is not that far behind anywhos)
I keep hearing people complain about the mic, luckily that isn't an issue for me though as I don't use my tablet for video or audio chat anyways And surprisingly I haven't had the WIFI issue either, it has worked like a peach all the way from the start. The only issue I've had with my tablet has been the fact that it took Acer forever to release EMEA_GEN3 firmware update, nothing else so far.
Maybe I've just been lucky?
After watching your video, i can say is a hardware fault. Exchange again the tablet and check on the store that everything works. Mine works wonderful and I love this tablet.
I have two Iconia tablets and confirmed that both cameras in each tablet work in 4.010.11 and 4.010.13.
I've also not had an issue with wifi. If this is an ongoing issue, it might be an incompatibility with your router.
For the camera, most likely hardware defect, mine doesnt have that problem. For the wifi, however the update supposedly fixed it, but if you have the same problem as I do, root your device (its easy!) And download an app like es file explorer and go into the settings and enable both root settings. Turn off wifi, and in es file explorer delete both files in /data/miscellaneous/dhcp. Sounds like a pain but it really only takes thirty seconds and fixes it for a few days. As for replace versus a different unit, I recommend getting another iconia. I compaired all of the tablets hheavily, and all of them have their issues. The iconias issues, however, are by far the easiest to deal with
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I to have had not one issue with my tab. Well other then a few things I screws up.that camera issue looks like bad hardware or the cable from the can to system board is loose.I did drop my tab and found the connectors inside were not secure for video.I took mine apart. Take yours back since you just got it.tell them to get you one from a different box or take it back to a diffrent target store.
I once bought a awesome TV from Walmart I returned 4 of them was going to get a fifteenth brand but decided one more try.I went across bridge into Jeff Indiana walmart exchanged it. And never one sec trouble was a bad batch at the walmart 3 miles from my home.
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Just like every other product in life, sometimes we get lemons - not just lemons, rotten lemons.
Your A500 may be an example of a rotten lemon. No way to even turn it into lemonade.
You said you've done a factory reset and you're on the newest build of software, there's basically nowhere else to turn and nothing else to do. As a customer, you've done your part. I would say, do an exchange and as I think I glimpsed someone else mentioning, open it up and use it at the store. Check for hardware faults. Mind you, slow GPS locking and Wifi issues may not necessarily indicate a fault, but that camera issue definitely does.
That is of course, IF you want another A500 anyway. At this point, no one here could blame you if you wanted to try on something else. In your place, I probably would. Once bitten, twice shy. I give every brand 2 chances when it comes to a product. If I end up getting 2 duds (and I've only had this happen ONCE) that's where I draw the line and I gladly move on to something else.
Good Luck and whatever you decide to do, hope to hear from you again with your results...either loving on a new tablet, or loving on a working A500.
WOW Sorry to hear you have had so many issues. I bought my wife one for reading and web surfing for her birthday and she and my daughter got me one for my birthday. My kid has a Galaxy and she had some of the issues you have had with the acer. Granted she works at best buy and they had some issues with that lot she had bought hers from. I have khad the wifi issue at first and went to the acer web site and installed the fix from them before i had rooted mine. At first i had to do the reset thingy with a small paper clip. But have not had any other issues than that. I would do the return thing at a diffrent store maybe you got into a bad lot. I hope it changes for you.
Do a double reset (paperclip in the reset hole with power on) and power cycle. Then restore the factory settings under the security menu, which will also wipe all your settings and data. This solved all the probs my son was having in his A500.
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hello, not a noob for installing stuff just reporting some issues im having with this rom.
So currently the install went fine on the focus (ATT device running on Tmobile). the device is rebooting at random times, i would watch it flash the goodbye screen wait for a few seconds then the samsung screen comes on. Another thing is my connection is reporting to be on the E (Edge connection i guess) even though im rated for 3G with tmobile but at the time i just recently turned on my data so maybe when my new pay period kicks in that would change so that ones iffy. Other than that the rom seems to be running fine.
Until your area gets a network upgrade on TMobile's 1900Mhz band, you are going to see 2G.
As far as the reboots, I have 3 focus's running this Rom on Straighttalk. NO reboots.
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Until your area gets a network upgrade on TMobile's 1900Mhz band, you are going to see 2G.
As far as the reboots, I have 3 focus's running this Rom on Straighttalk. NO reboots.
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i know i get 3g before cause my father turned off the data plan when i wasn't working (and before i flashed the rom incase anyone asked), like i said i won't know until a couple of weeks as theres alot of extenuating circumstances which i can pin on Tmobile (my voicemail was kinda jacked up when i first joined).
Yea the reboot was just weird, i would just take it out of my pocket and i would noticed all of my pass tasks were missing even when i wasn't running anything on the background still does it, then last night i was on my computer look over to the right to my phone and it was restarting by itself . Also before i flashed, i had the same issue but not too frequently maybe once per 2 months.
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i know i get 3g before cause my father turned off the data plan when i wasn't working (and before i flashed the rom incase anyone asked), like i said i won't know until a couple of weeks as theres alot of extenuating circumstances which i can pin on Tmobile (my voicemail was kinda jacked up when i first joined).
Yea the reboot was just weird, i would just take it out of my pocket and i would noticed all of my pass tasks were missing even when i wasn't running anything on the background still does it, then last night i was on my computer look over to the right to my phone and it was restarting by itself . Also before i flashed, i had the same issue but not too frequently maybe once per 2 months.
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I had similar issues when I was on T-Mobile about 6 months ago, but I am not sure but I don't think your issues are because of T-Mobile, try a reflash.
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hello, not a noob for installing stuff just reporting some issues im having with this rom.
So currently the install went fine on the focus (ATT device running on Tmobile). the device is rebooting at random times, i would watch it flash the goodbye screen wait for a few seconds then the samsung screen comes on. Another thing is my connection is reporting to be on the E (Edge connection i guess) even though im rated for 3G with tmobile but at the time i just recently turned on my data so maybe when my new pay period kicks in that would change so that ones iffy. Other than that the rom seems to be running fine.
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do you clean storage after flash? i had a similar problem when i flashed with a novin´s custom and it was because i didn't clean it. with the dynamic rom i haven´t had any problem is for me the best rom ever created to the foucs
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do you clean storage after flash? i had a similar problem when i flashed with a novin´s custom and it was because i didn't clean it. with the dynamic rom i haven´t had any problem is for me the best rom ever created to the foucs
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i cleaned before and after but heck reflashing helps too, i'll give that a shot tonight. Yea this rom is awesome, makes my focus still look shiny new
Here are the bugs I found:
1. The Clock Hub seems to flash every other time I look at it, as if it was flickering and loading up just then, not smooth.
2. The Clock Hub's code needs to be fixed to show AM and PM properly when the hour is 12. 12AM is shown as 12PM and the other way around too. Soon as it hits 1PM or 1AM, it's ok.
3. XBox avatar wakes up on the wrong side after shaking him down and he tries to pull the screen to the side. Shake your avatar, make him fall down, watch him get up pissed and pull the screen to a side. On the older stock rom, he pulled it correctly from left to right. In this ROM and the Tango ROM I got from here - he pulls it wrongly from right to left.
4. When I connected the phone to the computer, it detected it as a Samsung Omnia 7, instead of a Focus.
5. The image in Zune is a generic Windows Phone image, not the Samsung Focus as it used to be shown before.
6. When there's a phonecall, earlier it used to say "slide up to answer", why not anymore?
7. No charging sound/vibration when plugged in.
One request:
Can anyone find the original image from the stock rom from the 7 album, which had the person crossing their leg to form a 4, instead of the Mango image that has the latch with the 4 over it?
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Here are the bugs I found:
1. The Clock Hub seems to flash every other time I look at it, as if it was flickering and loading up just then, not smooth.
2. The Clock Hub's code needs to be fixed to show AM and PM properly when the hour is 12. 12AM is shown as 12PM and the other way around too. Soon as it hits 1PM or 1AM, it's ok.
3. XBox avatar wakes up on the wrong side after shaking him down and he tries to pull the screen to the side. Shake your avatar, make him fall down, watch him get up pissed and pull the screen to a side. On the older stock rom, he pulled it correctly from left to right. In this ROM and the Tango ROM I got from here - he pulls it wrongly from right to left.
4. When I connected the phone to the computer, it detected it as a Samsung Omnia 7, instead of a Focus.
5. The image in Zune is a generic Windows Phone image, not the Samsung Focus as it used to be shown before.
6. When there's a phonecall, earlier it used to say "slide up to answer", why not anymore?
7. No charging sound/vibration when plugged in.
One request:
Can anyone find the original image from the stock rom from the 7 album, which had the person crossing their leg to form a 4, instead of the Mango image that has the latch with the 4 over it?
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I found that the network profile does not work. The voice search does not work, also when u have a custom SMS tone it will not silence and also it will play when u are talking on the phone, and if you get more than one text it will play the sound for each sound all at once.
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hello, not a noob for installing stuff just reporting some issues im having with this rom.
So currently the install went fine on the focus (ATT device running on Tmobile). the device is rebooting at random times, i would watch it flash the goodbye screen wait for a few seconds then the samsung screen comes on. Another thing is my connection is reporting to be on the E (Edge connection i guess) even though im rated for 3G with tmobile but at the time i just recently turned on my data so maybe when my new pay period kicks in that would change so that ones iffy. Other than that the rom seems to be running fine.
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Your phone probably has bad NAND sectors. Aside from getting a new phone the only thing you can try is getting a very large SD card and hope that most of the data gets written to the SD card instead of the NAND. This is a common problem with the Focus I have noticed.
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I found that the network profile does not work. The voice search does not work, also when u have a custom SMS tone it will not silence and also it will play when u are talking on the phone, and if you get more than one text it will play the sound for each sound all at once.
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The Dynamics ROM uses a lot of Omnia 7 files as well as it's newer firmware which can cause problems, such as changing providers with the diagnosis app via the provxml trick. The reason voice search doesn't work is because of ultrashot's SearchKeySettings package. If you want that to work you will have to use a ROKM that doesn't have that included.
This happens only when I install any custom rom...the phone works fine with x720 5.8.018s version...anything apart from that device will shut down every 2-3 minutes ...very strange behaviour ...any one has any idea ?
any custom rom , android 6 or 7 , AOSP or stock based, it will boot fine and after initial setup , it will work for 3-4 minutes and then suddenly device shuts down. .. when i boot it up again , same thing happens, in one minute shuts down.
if i flash 5.8.018s stock rom , everything works fine....and it doesnt shut down...
After device bugs, my phone finally was restored into x720 stock ROM (i have x720). On boot it worked below 1 minute and reboots. I had to do clean data. Also booting x720 ROM into x727 is not too good idea. Maybe you should try to do more wipes?
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After device bugs, my phone finally was restored into x720 stock ROM (i have x720). On boot it worked below 1 minute and reboots. I had to do clean data. Also booting x720 ROM into x727 is not too good idea. Maybe you should try to do more wipes?
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I did all the wipes i could , cleaned all kinds of data... it was US version 5.8.018s originally and i tried to flash Omni ROm first , and other ROMS , all had same issues, so i thought going back to the stock US rom , but since US version of 018s is not available anywhere, i went to chinese version , and it works perfectly , no reboot/shutdown...... I have used number of phones and installed 100s of ROMS , i have never faced soemthing like this...i hve even used leeco pro 3 before, with all custom roms and no problems.
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I did all the wipes i could , cleaned all kinds of data... it was US version 5.8.018s originally and i tried to flash Omni ROm first , and other ROMS , all had same issues, so i thought going back to the stock US rom , but since US version of 018s is not available anywhere, i went to chinese version , and it works perfectly , no reboot/shutdown...... I have used number of phones and installed 100s of ROMS , i have never faced soemthing like this...i hve even used leeco pro 3 before, with all custom roms and no problems.
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Ok update...i downloaded x720 021S and 023S and updated using in build update option..(local update) , and it worked, 23S is working without any shut down...so i guess, it is problem only with roms flashed thru TWRP
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Ok update...i downloaded x720 021S and 023S and updated using in build update option..(local update) , and it worked, 23S is working without any shut down...so i guess, it is problem only with roms flashed thru TWRP
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Usefull information, thank you very much.
Nearly the same problem here: My X720 is only rebooting sometimes, but more often switching off directly (vibrates one time and switches off). While the phone is in that status, the battery is discharging. I can only reboot the phone by holding the power button for about 10sec or to TWRP. Two times I was rebooting the phone and some (not all) settings were restored to default - reflashed the rom... Another time rebooting the phone it hangs in the booting display, did not get it booted completely again - reflashed the rom.... Very strange behaviour and don't know why this happens.
But for about the last month, the phone is only switching off and I can reboot and use it for an unspecific time.
That all happens with several ROMs - currently I'm on ResurrectionRemix 5.8.5. This is the most stable custom rom I have tested, but anyways the phone switches off in irregular periods. Sometimes the phone is about a day alive, sometimes only a few hours, sometimes below an hour. When I'm playing HQ games I think the phones switches off much faster, but not sure.
I'm also not sure - I do not have used the stock rom really long after I get this phone (was CN 5.8.018s I think) - but my feeling is, that the phone was definetely more stable with the stock rom.
Now after finding this thread, I will give the stock rom another try. Would you be so kind as to describe the process of going to the stock 023S a bit more in detail? First flashing the 5.9.021S for the x720 ROM throught TWRP and after that using the build in update option (rename file to update.zip into root folder)?
Thanks!
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Usefull information, thank you very much.
Nearly the same problem here: My X720 is only rebooting sometimes, but more often switching off directly (vibrates one time and switches off). While the phone is in that status, the battery is discharging. I can only reboot the phone by holding the power button for about 10sec or to TWRP. Two times I was rebooting the phone and some (not all) settings were restored to default - reflashed the rom... Another time rebooting the phone it hangs in the booting display, did not get it booted completely again - reflashed the rom.... Very strange behaviour and don't know why this happens.
But for about the last month, the phone is only switching off and I can reboot and use it for an unspecific time.
That all happens with several ROMs - currently I'm on ResurrectionRemix 5.8.5. This is the most stable custom rom I have tested, but anyways the phone switches off in irregular periods. Sometimes the phone is about a day alive, sometimes only a few hours, sometimes below an hour. When I'm playing HQ games I think the phones switches off much faster, but not sure.
I'm also not sure - I do not have used the stock rom really long after I get this phone (was CN 5.8.018s I think) - but my feeling is, that the phone was definetely more stable with the stock rom.
Now after finding this thread, I will give the stock rom another try. Would you be so kind as to describe the process of going to the stock 023S a bit more in detail? First flashing the 5.9.021S for the x720 ROM throught TWRP and after that using the build in update option (rename file to update.zip into root folder)?
Thanks!
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On my equipment too !!
Andresdsr said:
On my equipment too !!
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You do not flash a 21s update twrp that may brick you.
You have to go stock and flash with stock recovery.
Their threads already on this.
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mchlbenner said:
You do not flash a 21s update twrp that may brick you.
You have to go stock and flash with stock recovery.
Their threads already on this.
Sent from my LEX727 using xda premium
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it was the same with the ROM that came from the factory.
I experienced 21s and 23s beta Tars, 23s original Chinese...
Andresdsr said:
it was the same with the ROM that came from the factory.
I experienced 21s and 23s beta Tars, 23s original Chinese...
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Does anyone completely solved the shutting down issue on x720? I remember the same issue with the stock rom when i was getting the phone (5.8.018). but this rom could have been a shop rom, cant remember.
For me it seems that the issue happens more often whenever the phone uses more performance. Playing HQ games let the phone shut down after about 1-3min. doing nothing on the phone, it remains for about a day. Weird behaviour... will try to flash the stock recovery via fastboot and then a stock rom (no shop rom). hopefully it will improve the behaviour or even better solving the issue.
Sounds like a hardware issue. As for me, I have a couple of screen issues--I usually have my LeEco Pro3 Elite connected to a charger, and I sometimes don't use it for long stretches of time (say, 8 hours) because I have another phone as well. Once in a while, during those times the screen refuses to turn on. Sometimes the fingerprint scanner wakes it up, other times I have to straight up reboot the phone using the power button (I have to keep it pressed for two whole minutes for it to wake up the phone). Pretty annoying, dunno why it's happening. Could be a loose screen cable.
Now, if your phone is shutting down every few minutes no matter what, it could be a battery issue. I say this because I had a similar issue with an old iPod Color from 2005. The iPod would shut off every few minutes even when plugged into a charger. I changed the battery and it stopped shutting down.
Hopefully it's not a motherboard issue because replacing a phone's motherboard is never easy.
For me it seems that the issue happens more often whenever the phone uses more performance. Playing HQ games let the phone shut down after about 1-3min. doing nothing on the phone, it remains for about a day. Weird behaviour... will try to flash the stock recovery via fastboot and then a stock rom (no shop rom). hopefully it will improve the behaviour or even better solving the issue.
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I don't think gameplay should affect the phone negatively at all. Especially a phone with a Snapdragon 821, a 14nm processor with efficient cores, for crying out loud. I play Fate Grand Order, a pretty intense 2D online game with 1080p graphics for 5 hours straight on my LeEco Pro3 Elite (Snapdragon 820) without it heating up at all.
Again, seems like a hardware issue because no phone with a Snapdragon 821 or 820 should be doing that. Especially while gaming.
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Sounds like a hardware issue. As for me, I have a couple of screen issues--I usually have my LeEco Pro3 Elite connected to a charger, and I sometimes don't use it for long stretches of time (say, 8 hours) because I have another phone as well. Once in a while, during those times the screen refuses to turn on. Sometimes the fingerprint scanner wakes it up, other times I have to straight up reboot the phone using the power button (I have to keep it pressed for two whole minutes for it to wake up the phone). Pretty annoying, dunno why it's happening. Could be a loose screen cable.
Now, if your phone is shutting down every few minutes no matter what, it could be a battery issue. I say this because I had a similar issue with an old iPod Color from 2005. The iPod would shut off every few minutes even when plugged into a charger. I changed the battery and it stopped shutting down.
Hopefully it's not a motherboard issue because replacing a phone's motherboard is never easy.
I don't think gameplay should affect the phone negatively at all. Especially a phone with a Snapdragon 821, a 14nm processor with efficient cores, for crying out loud. I play Fate Grand Order, a pretty intense 2D online game with 1080p graphics for 5 hours straight on my LeEco Pro3 Elite (Snapdragon 820) without it heating up at all.
Again, seems like a hardware issue because no phone with a Snapdragon 821 or 820 should be doing that. Especially while gaming.
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Thanks for the information.
Could be possible... If I'm shaking the phone like a cocktail-mixer, it feels something loose inside it and this could be the battery of course which could be not fixed correctly. But I am sure, that this issue has also something to do what is happening on the phone currently. Sometimes I am going to bed and the phone does not move for 8hrs, it simply lays on the table. In the morning, it is shutted down. Need to hold the power button for about 10sec to restart the phone (usually hold 2sec to power on). Sometimes (not really often) it warm-starts automatically.
I think this could be also a memory issue or internal storage. Yesterday I was playing a game (Bowling by Jason Belmonte) and after 3min, the phone hung up, display remains on, no reaction on pressing the hardware buttons, waiting 5min... nothing happens. So I pressed the power button 10sec, phone seems to reboot normally, but it take a bit more time in my oppinion. Now after entering the pin, some phone configurations were resetted to default, but not all. Playing this came, it sometimes happened, that the phone switches off (with one vibration). Rebooting with a 10sec press and it runs again normally. This time phone hung up and some configurations were resetted to default. WTF?
Today I have played Hmmsim 2. Phone hung up again, pressing the power button 10sec, phone begins to reboot, but rebooting never finished (waiting for about 1-2hrs). Long Press power button (10sec) to try to reboot again - same behaviour, never ending ROM loading screen. Wiped to factory via TWRP and the phone reboots again, but all configurations lost, like freshly installed rom. OK, whatever, using the google backup for apps and so on... when installing the apps in the background, the phone reboots about 3-4 times, app installations not finished. Cancelled and shutting the phone down to TWRP, where I am now...
What I will try to say is, that whenever the storage or memory is used to much or something like that, the phone begins with that behaviour.
And now I am thining about what to try next. I think I will try to flash the stock recovery via TOOL ALL IN ONE then flashing a stock rom like 5.9.023S.
I am still not sure of a hardware issue...
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The easiest way to tell is if the issues were occurring before you flashed TWRP. Were they? This is why you always wait a couple of months before modding your device. Otherwise you'll be stuck in a loop of doubts. By this I mean you'll be convinced that the issue has to do with your custom ROM or kernel rather than your device's hardware, but you have no way of knowing for sure because you never used the phone enough on stock firmware.
I was like you... my unmodified Zenfone 3 had a screen flicker issue and a headphone jack issue that I was convinced was a Nougat problem. I upgraded from Marshmallow to Nougat immediately after getting the phone. After a lot of research and posting threads on the Zenfone forums, I realized I had a hardware issue on my hands. The screen had to be replaced for the flickering to stop, and the headphone jack had been gimped to 0.3v by ASUS for some reason. I quickly sold the phone and got my LeEco.
Here's a thread I made on XDA about my screen flickering issue. It's a hardware issue: https://forum.xda-developers.com/zenfone-3/help/ze552kl-screen-flickering-lowest-t3660643
I've learned some important things from that experience: it's easy for your brain to trick you into thinking you've got an easy-to-solve software issue on your hands, when in reality you've got a hardware issue. You need to start making arrangements for a replacement device and get video evidence of your problems to show to the seller ASAP. Because that behaviour isn't normal. Now I hope you do have a software issue on your hands that the stock firmware will solve, but who knows. Be prepared for anything.
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The easiest way to tell is if the issues were occurring before you flashed TWRP. Were they? This is why you always wait a couple of months before modding your device. Otherwise you'll be stuck in a loop of doubts. By this I mean you'll be convinced that the issue has to do with your custom ROM or kernel rather than your device's hardware, but you have no way of knowing for sure because you never used the phone enough on stock firmware.
I was like you... my unmodified Zenfone 3 had a screen flicker issue and a headphone jack issue that I was convinced was a Nougat problem. I upgraded from Marshmallow to Nougat immediately after getting the phone. After a lot of research and posting threads on the Zenfone forums, I realized I had a hardware issue on my hands. The screen had to be replaced for the flickering to stop, and the headphone jack had been gimped to 0.3v by ASUS for some reason. I quickly sold the phone and got my LeEco.
Here's a thread I made on XDA about my screen flickering issue. It's a hardware issue: https://forum.xda-developers.com/zenfone-3/help/ze552kl-screen-flickering-lowest-t3660643
I've learned some important things from that experience: it's easy for your brain to trick you into thinking you've got an easy-to-solve software issue on your hands, when in reality you've got a hardware issue. You need to start making arrangements for a replacement device and get video evidence of your problems to show to the seller ASAP. Because that behaviour isn't normal. Now I hope you do have a software issue on your hands that the stock firmware will solve, but who knows. Be prepared for anything.
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Thank you very much!
I am sure that the phone was doing the same on stock rom, but maybe fewer times. I have flashed a stock based rom now (Turbos mini 5.9.023s) and the issue still exists, but now the phone reboots normally more often than going into edl mode (emergency mode). I have found an old thread here on XDA and the issues described there sounds nearly the same. Finally the user in this thread also had hardware issue.
I believe also in a hardware issue, but I am still not sure. If I am looking to other threads regarding similar problems, there is always some regularity in the behaviour or the reported issues. In my case these rebootings (usual reboot or reboot to EDL mode) are definetely very unregular. On the TURBO Rom, these reboots happen definetely more often when the display is off and the phone sleeps. On the TURBO Rom, playing games seems to be helping lasting the phone a bit longer, the completely differnce to ResurrectionRemix Rom, where the phone was lasting longer when doing preferabely nothing. The issues are so inconsistant and this is making it hard to believe, that this is a hardware issue. Why the hell is the phone behaving different on every ROM - if it's a hardware issue, the occurred problems should have some regularity.
As I didn't have an OTA update option on the stock rom, I'd found out that this could be a "shop rom" (5.8.018), which is not the best choice nor for the first month(s).
I'm from Germany and I do not really want to return the phone to china or east asia for repairing (bought at banggood). This could take a very very long time. Changing to a new one could be also difficult because there are hardly any more devices out on the market and I need to return it for the change too.
But I am slowly at my wit's end and before these issues are making me more and more crazy, I will accept a problem with the hardware.
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I believe also in a hardware issue, but I am still not sure. If I am looking to other threads regarding similar problems, there is always some regularity in the behaviour or the reported issues. In my case these rebootings (usual reboot or reboot to EDL mode) are definetely very unregular. On the TURBO Rom, these reboots happen definetely more often when the display is off and the phone sleeps. On the TURBO Rom, playing games seems to be helping lasting the phone a bit longer, the completely differnce to ResurrectionRemix Rom, where the phone was lasting longer when doing preferabely nothing. The issues are so inconsistant and this is making it hard to believe, that this is a hardware issue. Why the hell is the phone behaving different on every ROM - if it's a hardware issue, the occurred problems should have some regularity.
As I didn't have an OTA update option on the stock rom, I'd found out that this could be a "shop rom" (5.8.018), which is not the best choice nor for the first month(s).
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If your issues were occurring from the moment you got the phone, you know it's a hardware problem. Your seller sent you a defective phone and you should at least try fighting for a partial refund. If you paid through PayPal, open a dispute. If you paid with a credit card, ask for a chargeback. Now, the shop you bought it from might ban you for initiating a chargeback, but it's probably worth it. Or you could just cut your losses and move on. Maybe donate your phone to a dev who wants to try something crazy. :good:
I'm from Germany and I do not really want to return the phone to china or east asia for repairing (bought at banggood). This could take a very very long time. Changing to a new one could be also difficult because there are hardly any more devices out on the market and I need to return it for the change too.
But I am slowly at my wit's end and before these issues are making me more and more crazy, I will accept a problem with the hardware.
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Oh snap, it's a Banggood phone? I bought my x722 from Banggood. No glaring issues other than the screen one so far, but this does worry me for the future. How long have you had it?
This is the problem with Chinaphones. They're cheap, they've got good specs, but you can't guarantee quality. Especially with now close-to-defunct brands like LeEco. If you're still okay with Chinaphones, get a Xiaomi next. Probably the most reliable Chinaphone brand out there, next to Huawei. And try to buy from an official source. I heard The Solution Shop in Europe sells Xiaomi phones for cheap (?). And always remember to record your unboxings and document all issues from now on.
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If your issues were occurring from the moment you got the phone, you know it's a hardware problem. Your seller sent you a defective phone and you should at least try fighting for a partial refund. If you paid through PayPal, open a dispute. If you paid with a credit card, ask for a chargeback. Now, the shop you bought it from might ban you for initiating a chargeback, but it's probably worth it. Or you could just cut your losses and move on. Maybe donate your phone to a dev who wants to try something crazy. :good:
Oh snap, it's a Banggood phone? I bought my x722 from Banggood. No glaring issues other than the screen one so far, but this does worry me for the future. How long have you had it?
This is the problem with Chinaphones. They're cheap, they've got good specs, but you can't guarantee quality. Especially with now close-to-defunct brands like LeEco. If you're still okay with Chinaphones, get a Xiaomi next. Probably the most reliable Chinaphone brand out there, next to Huawei. And try to buy from an official source. I heard The Solution Shop in Europe sells Xiaomi phones for cheap (?). And always remember to record your unboxings and document all issues from now on.
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Admittedly I'm not sure at all if this issue was already present after starting the phone for the first time. One of the first things I have done during the initial setup wizard was using the integrated data transfer app by LeEco (scanning a QR code with the old Xperia Z, downloading app to transfer data to the x720). This app establishes a Wifi direct connection between both phones to transfer the data like apps and other stuff. This transfer process takes at least 6-7 hours and during that process I am sure that the phone was not rebooting a single time. Maybe a specific app or background process of an app causes this irregular rebootings. I have not testet this. I have installed the most common of my apps also using different custom ROMs later.
On the current ROM (Turbos mini 5.19.023s) I have now looked into the last_kmsg.log file severel times after the phone was hard-rebooting (not to emergency mode - the phone is switching down to emergence mode really rarely since I have flashed the stock based ROM) to debug for a kernel problem and the power off reason seems to be ""Triggered from PS_HOLD (PS_HOLD/MSM controlled shutdown)". In the log file I could also find some "kernel panic" entries. So I have a little gleam of hope that the issue is not a hardware problem. I have to test a bit more with the stock recovery/ROMto gain a better knowledge of the issue. I think I will post this into the ROM topic to ask a developer.
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If your issues were occurring from the moment you got the phone, you know it's a hardware problem. Your seller sent you a defective phone and you should at least try fighting for a partial refund. If you paid through PayPal, open a dispute. If you paid with a credit card, ask for a chargeback. Now, the shop you bought it from might ban you for initiating a chargeback, but it's probably worth it. Or you could just cut your losses and move on. Maybe donate your phone to a dev who wants to try something crazy. :good:
Oh snap, it's a Banggood phone? I bought my x722 from Banggood. No glaring issues other than the screen one so far, but this does worry me for the future. How long have you had it?
This is the problem with Chinaphones. They're cheap, they've got good specs, but you can't guarantee quality. Especially with now close-to-defunct brands like LeEco. If you're still okay with Chinaphones, get a Xiaomi next. Probably the most reliable Chinaphone brand out there, next to Huawei. And try to buy from an official source. I heard The Solution Shop in Europe sells Xiaomi phones for cheap (?). And always remember to record your unboxings and document all issues from now on.
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Finally - I got it working without any problems now!
Happily it seems to be not a hardware issue. I have flashed the Grossoshop ROM and Recovery via a provided .bat file. This .bat file has flashed the recovery first via fastboot, then the ROM via fastboot. This Grossoshop ROM was based on 5.8.018s I think. Then I have updated TWRP Recovery to the latest version via TWRP itself (flashed the new image). Then I have flashed Mauro's 2.2 (which is based on 5.9.023s) and it is running great! Super performance, no extrem battery drain, no reboots, all is working (except the chinese design downloads as I cannot create a Leeco account from Germany). But now I'm satisfied. :good::laugh:
peed_neslo said:
Usefull information, thank you very much.
Nearly the same problem here: My X720 is only rebooting sometimes, but more often switching off directly (vibrates one time and switches off). While the phone is in that status, the battery is discharging. I can only reboot the phone by holding the power button for about 10sec or to TWRP. Two times I was rebooting the phone and some (not all) settings were restored to default - reflashed the rom... Another time rebooting the phone it hangs in the booting display, did not get it booted completely again - reflashed the rom.... Very strange behaviour and don't know why this happens.
But for about the last month, the phone is only switching off and I can reboot and use it for an unspecific time.
Thanks!
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My x720 has done the same to me a couple of times now, Vibrates once and turns off and I have to hold the power button for a few seconds longer to turn it back on again which is odd.
The battery was charged over 50% % 70% at the times it happened and I wasn't even using the phone, It was just sat on the table in front of me.
I didn't have any problems at all until a few days ago when it first shut down.
I'm using Oreo - AICP 13.1 from here - https://forum.xda-developers.com/le-pro3/development/rom-aicp-13-0-pro3-aka-zl1-x727-x720-t3698058
The problem now is I don't know where to start troubleshooting When I get time I am planning on a clean wipe and fresh install of AICP again to see if that solves the problem
When using this ROM does your phone heat up a lot.
Sent from my LEX727 using xda premium
Did you manage to fix the problem somehow?