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I've read all post in this board.
but i can't quite understand if lag is really there, if it shows only in certain phone(say carrier,geographical area etcetc) or whatever...
reading random post here and here doesn't give precise informations about this aspect of the hero's user experience.
So i'll make a poll. 4 options of lag-tollerability.
if you vote for the poll, reply describing details of the phone, and a precise description of the lag(where, when, app open...)
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I'm italian so sorry for my dodgy english.
I'm going to refrain from voting until I have a better idea of what precisely people mean by lag.
The only slightly slow thing on my G2 has been the messages - sometimes there has been a bit of a delay opening the list of messages, threads etc.
Today, I waited for all of about..........four whole seconds.
I can live with that.
None of the phone's other functions have any appreciable delay or sluggishness.
It's worth noting, however, that I don't use the Farcebook or Twatter widgits, so I don't know if they cause any lag on other poster's phones.
Compare this to my Vario III/Kaiser which seized up on regular occasions.
And if you had the temerity to hit the 'back' button whilst using PIE, well, it was sometimes quicker to do a soft reset than wait for it to get its arse into gear.
That's the feedback i was looking for.
in my opinion you are in the second option of the pool.
Because it's normal that some application need loading time, and that's not lag nor abnormal..
I voted no lag, but that is because of some modifications I made.
Before I go into detail, here is my definition of "lag":
My device lags if an action that should be instant hangs for a fraction (or more) before taking place. An example of such an action is a screen swipe across the homescreen. It should happen as you perform the swipe, if it doesn't, something is lagging and preventing the screen from moving. Waiting for a calendar to load, an inbox to display, logging in to messenger, that sort of stuff is in my view not lagging. They are usualy an action that loads data for display or modification.
I voted for No lag at all, but I cheated because I have removed the entire Sense UI and its widgets from my device using the Rosie remover from Modaco.
The Sense UI is a great piece of work, but every time I used it I had the feeling the Hero just doesnt have the horsepower to drive such a UI. (Which fits my description of lagging)
So, lagging: No, but only after cheating and reverting to the default Homescreen.
I voted totally no, but it's not exactly true. The phone can sometimes lag abit while it's loading up from sleep mode, also the browser can lag depending on which sites you visit. But both of those examples are very minor and I have never had the phone freeze for more than a second.
Sure the phone could be faster, but when I got it, and after hearing about it's laggyness from reviews I was supprised of how fast it was.
I use the default ROM that came with the phone, and taskkiller isn't even installed.
I have a couple of complaints about this device but lag isn't one of them.
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I voted totally no, but it's not exactly true. The phone can sometimes lag abit while it's loading up from sleep mode, also the browser can lag depending on which sites you visit. But both of those examples are very minor and I have never had the phone freeze for more than a second.
Sure the phone could be faster, but when I got it, and after hearing about it's laggyness from reviews I was supprised of how fast it was.
I use the default ROM that came with the phone, and taskkiller isn't even installed.
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I experience the same thing, I've had doubts on buying the new diamond 2 or the hero, since i've had the diamond 1 for a while I decided to try the android thingy.
Compared to that the diamond lives in the stoneages and experiences lot's of lag, my hero sometimes hesitates when coming out of sleep and when I just refreshed the widget's (got new mail ore weather update) it lags a tiny bit, but I don't consider the hero to lag overall so I voted option 2
Typing quickly makes the keyboard lag quite alot which always winds me up.
Scrolling through contacts is very clunky (maybe due to all of them having pictures and facebook status'). But then again dont offer the feature if its crap.
Messages takes too long to load up.
BAM!
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I voted no lag, but that is because of some modifications I made.
Before I go into detail, here is my definition of "lag":
My device lags if an action that should be instant hangs for a fraction (or more) before taking place. An example of such an action is a screen swipe across the homescreen. It should happen as you perform the swipe, if it doesn't, something is lagging and preventing the screen from moving. Waiting for a calendar to load, an inbox to display, logging in to messenger, that sort of stuff is in my view not lagging. They are usualy an action that loads data for display or modification.
I voted for No lag at all, but I cheated because I have removed the entire Sense UI and its widgets from my device using the Rosie remover from Modaco.
The Sense UI is a great piece of work, but every time I used it I had the feeling the Hero just doesnt have the horsepower to drive such a UI. (Which fits my description of lagging)
So, lagging: No, but only after cheating and reverting to the default Homescreen.
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Did you keep any aspects of Sense UI intact? I don't know what is tied to it as far as the keyboard and music player?
Totally no for me. I thought about 'More of a slight delay' but that would be less accurate, as for the most part things happen very quickly. The keyboard has been known to miss a beat, and large pdf files take a minimum of time to load up the pages as you scroll, but apart from the expected delay in processing intensive tasks, generally I've been pretty amazed at the speed of the thing to be honest. If I was to say the Hero lagged, I'd have to say my PC lagged aswell. Some things do take time. You're not gonna load up a 5Mb pdf instantaneously on the iPhone either.
To completely remove delay or lag from a phone you'd need processing power far beyond that normally required by the software, which isn't practical.
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Did you keep any aspects of Sense UI intact? I don't know what is tied to it as far as the keyboard and music player?
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Only the visible parts have been removed such as HTC widgets and the homescreen itself. The apps still work great (calendar, people, keyboard, etc). The background services are still present.
Just a bit of delay between switching screens and once in a while I do encounter keystroke lag when typing on eBuddy and RoadSync email - rarely any keyboard lag when texting.
I've been trying out some bits and pieces over the past couple of days and have noticed some serious performance differences.
After my factory reset I didn't set an 'unlock code' with the connect the dots dealy, this has made a massive difference to the performance of my phone. Also, as I'm with Vodafone, I didn't bother setting up Peep, I opted for Twidroid instead. Without peep on a home 'scene' I've got a performance boost too. Twidroid is still running in the background, mind and I don't miss a tweet!
Just thought I'd chime in and see if anyone else had noticed the same.
No lag at all here with anything yet, tried a few different configurations. Maybe I'm one of the lucky ones, but looks like the new update will sort out any lag in the next few days?
No lag for me, sometimes you have to wait a second but compare to my last phone (HTC Diamond) it's just black and white.
The diamond was buggy and slow. The hero is fast, I never had a freeze and Android is the best OS I never tried!
This is my first touch screen, and first android phone, so of course im constantly impressed with it. Blows my mind in fact.
That said, I do experience lag problems:
- that require me to use Taskiller to kill everything once in a while if ive been using to many difference apps.
- Keyboard lag when typing fast. More noticeable if apps are piled up in the background
- Sliding between home screens straight after unlocking the screen. Seems like once they screens are 'buffered' they slide smoothly and quickly. FYI i only use 3 home screens with only the clock, dialer, Taskiller and WIFI widget. Rest is plain app shortcut icons.
- Dialer widget. Sliding through favourite contacts is sloooow. Take a second or two to start moving, and as aboive, once I've slid all the way up and down and its 'buffered' its smooth as silk...
I voted for Sometimes is unusable.
First week I used TasKiller and Advanced Task Killer (great app btw!) to kill unnecessary apps running, and I was very pleased with the performance. Next week I uninstalled all third party task killer apps because I read here that Android should be very capable of handling these things. Well in my experience, I doesn't handle this all too well, I think now my device is lagging more than with me using task killers.
Lagging here means screen unresponsive when unlocking, not being able to drag notifications bar to properly view what's there, home screen switching is not so smooth etc. I'm only using Wi-Fi & other ON/OFF switches, medium weather app, couple of calendar widgets and bunch of shortcuts on my home screen. Only FB contacts are integrated, I'm not on Twitter or Flickr.
Just today I started using class 6 microSD card, and for now, everything seems pretty smooth. But I did remove the battery before doing this so it might not be so dramatic change compared to previous experience. Waiting eagerly for the new Hero update!
Only Sense is slow sometimes
Sometimes (once or twice a day) it definately lags. But it seems only a "Sense" issue. When it happens, for example the scrolling is not smooth anymore and the "SMS" Widget stops working properly (you can't flip trough the messages anymore).
But if I enter any Application, the App. itself works smooth and without any lags at all.
Strange thing is: after a couple of minutes (and it doesn't matter if the phone is turned on or not) the lag disappears totally. Maybe theres is some sort of "memory-rearrangement" or "Disk defragmentation" going on that slows the phone down while running.
it's worth noting as well that whether or not there are any "issues" it's always possible to make the phone lag - playing high-bit-rate-music while trying to browse a flash website will do it, for example - but that's only because the phone doesn't artificially limit what you can do
I've got a pretty large contact list imported from Facebook (~250 contacts). I've noticed scrolling is pretty slow, much slower then my original Droid. Anyone else having issues?
i notice that scrolling is slow for a while when things have a lot of items to scroll
if you are rooted try downloading Autokiller memory manager from the market and set it to aggressive or extreme preset
that should snap it up
I have been very happy with my Nexus 7 since I got it. One major problem I am having is lag. I think my tablet has a hardware issue. Games like Riptide GP should be silky smooth with this hardware, but my game lags every 10-15 seconds. It drops like 5 frames and then is back to normal for another few seconds. It's not only with games though, it happens when I am scrolling down web pages. Even just news articles with no flash content and only 1 picture lag. At first I thought I was expecting too much from this device, but after watching some YouTube reviews it is clear that my device isn't as snappy as others.
Most UI interactions like swiping through apps are fine, but scrolling through my email quickly makes my device stutter for a second.
So is anybody else noticing this? Do you thinks it really is a hardware problem of will a software update fix it?
Been smooth all around so far. Don't own that game and haven't had issues with any web pages I've tried so far. Want to list a specific url that is extra laggy to try and replicate your problem.
It's not web page specific. It's any web page that I can scroll on (all webpages lol). Try reading a Wikipedia article. wait for the page to fully load then try to scroll from top to bottom in one swipe. Does it stutter of lag at all? Mine does 95% of the time. It doesn't make the tablet unusable, but its a little annoying considering my HTC thunderbolt is smoother most of the time. And project butter is supposed to stop all this from happening.
I'm assuming you're on stock 4.1.1 and nothing weird eating up background resources, then yeah, I'd take it back and exchange it. (I tried a few different wiki pages just to see and they were all smooth sailing for me)
Yeah I am on stock (4.1.1) I even rooted and flashed a custom ROM to see if that would fix it. It didn't. Thanks for testing for me. It may be hard to return to GameStop but I'll call them up.
Hi everyone. I want to ask some questions about G2 software since I am interested in getting one. Please be aware that I have a nexus 4 currently and already owned a galaxy s3 and htc sensation before so my questions might be slightly related or inspired from those.
1- when filling 5 screens with icons and widgets, does it become laggy swiping between screens!? Does the overall performance get affected!?
2- following the above, does the launcher have any redraws when pressing home button like htc sense or touchwiz!?
3- how do you compare the smoothness of the overall experience compared to pure android?! Is it smooth in general!?
4- how do you compare opening apps speed and responsiveness of the whole system!? My nexus 4 is amazingly fast and responsive.
5- when typing a text, do wrongly written words get underlined by zigzag red line like in pure android or like on windows Microsoft word?! (Automatic and live spelling check)
6- does the system lag heavily when opening contacts/people app like it happens on touchwiz?! (Of course when having a lot of contacts synced with a lot of accounts)
7- does scrolling in messaging app lags heavily if you have like 1000 sms?!
8- in phone app, can you swipe from keys page to call log to favorites page like in nexus, or you will have to pick the tab manually on the top of the page?!
9- also can you swipe between different apps ins settings or i will have to reach top of screen like in touchwiz?!
10- can i have list settings view instead of tabbed view on international D802 version?!
11- does calling keypad have smart dialling?!
12- can i install dashclock on default screen of the default lockscreen?! Or i have to use the stupid provided one like on the note 3?!
13- how much free RAM you got when you bought the phone new and it had no apps?!
14- how much free RAM you have now (of course after closing all background apps by swiping them from recents) but installing a lot of apps that needs RAM?! ( chrome, whatsapp, viber, tango, skype, facebook, g+, avast, etc...)
15- does the system goes laggy when low on RAM like what happened on touchwiz and sense?!
16- does the phone goes very hot when playing heavy games for like 30min?! How much in temperature?! Is it like the nexus 4 or worse?!
17- is there is currently a MOD that allows running any app in Qslide mode like what happened with Spen window on note series?!
18- Is video recording that bad like it is said in many youtube videos?! Does it have really a hard time focusing?!
That's all folks!
Thank you guys!
Life Engineer said:
Hi everyone. I want to ask some questions about G2 software since I am interested in getting one. Please be aware that I have a nexus 4 currently and already owned a galaxy s3 and htc sensation before so my questions might be slightly related or inspired from those.
1- when filling 5 screens with icons and widgets, does it become laggy swiping between screens!? Does the overall performance get affected!? Not at all.
2- following the above, does the launcher have any redraws when pressing home button like htc sense or touchwiz!? No, but it seems some people have reported this
3- how do you compare the smoothness of the overall experience compared to pure android?! Is it smooth in general!? For me it's equal.
4- how do you compare opening apps speed and responsiveness of the whole system!? My nexus 4 is amazingly fast and responsive. Speed and responsive, faster my Nexus 4.
5- when typing a text, do wrongly written words get underlined by zigzag red line like in pure android or like on windows Microsoft word?! (Automatic and live spelling check) I don't know, I don't use the correction.
6- does the system lag heavily when opening contacts/people app like it happens on touchwiz?! (Of course when having a lot of contacts synced with a lot of accounts) Not at all.
7- does scrolling in messaging app lags heavily if you have like 1000 sms?! A little... Like all phones.
8- in phone app, can you swipe from keys page to call log to favorites page like in nexus, or you will have to pick the tab manually on the top of the page?! Yes you can swap
9- also can you swipe between different apps ins settings or i will have to reach top of screen like in touchwiz?! Not sure what you mean, you can swap in different tab in settings.
10- can i have list settings view instead of tabbed view on international D802 version?! Yes.
11- does calling keypad have smart dialling?! Yes, I think.
12- can i install dashclock on default screen of the default lockscreen?! Or i have to use the stupid provided one like on the note 3?! I don't know.
13- how much free RAM you got when you bought the phone new and it had no apps?! About 1,30.
14- how much free RAM you have now (of course after closing all background apps by swiping them from recents) but installing a lot of apps that needs RAM?! ( chrome, whatsapp, viber, tango, skype, facebook, g+, avast, etc...) About 1,20 after closing them but I don't use Facebook, Skype Avast.
15- does the system goes laggy when low on RAM like what happened on touchwiz and sense?! Not at all.
16- does the phone goes very hot when playing heavy games for like 30min?! How much in temperature?! Is it like the nexus 4 or worse?! I don't play games but in heavy use it feels less hot than the Nexus 4, CPU temp is about 60 °C.
17- is there is currently a MOD that allows running any app in Qslide mode like what happened with Spen window on note series?! Not yet.
18- Is video recording that bad like it is said in many youtube videos?! Does it have really a hard time focusing?!No, for me recording video is perfect. Sometimes Youtube is not the best way to judge a video recording...
That's all folks!
Thank you guys!
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Hi,
In short...
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Merci beaucoup mon ami! C'est très gentil de ta part!
Waiting for some other answers guys in order to double check and see what others may have!
Life Engineer said:
Hi everyone. I want to ask some questions about G2 software since I am interested in getting one. Please be aware that I have a nexus 4 currently and already owned a galaxy s3 and htc sensation before so my questions might be slightly related or inspired from those.
1- when filling 5 screens with icons and widgets, does it become laggy swiping between screens!? Does the overall performance get affected!?
2- following the above, does the launcher have any redraws when pressing home button like htc sense or touchwiz!?
3- how do you compare the smoothness of the overall experience compared to pure android?! Is it smooth in general!?
4- how do you compare opening apps speed and responsiveness of the whole system!? My nexus 4 is amazingly fast and responsive.
5- when typing a text, do wrongly written words get underlined by zigzag red line like in pure android or like on windows Microsoft word?! (Automatic and live spelling check)
6- does the system lag heavily when opening contacts/people app like it happens on touchwiz?! (Of course when having a lot of contacts synced with a lot of accounts)
7- does scrolling in messaging app lags heavily if you have like 1000 sms?!
8- in phone app, can you swipe from keys page to call log to favorites page like in nexus, or you will have to pick the tab manually on the top of the page?!
9- also can you swipe between different apps ins settings or i will have to reach top of screen like in touchwiz?!
10- can i have list settings view instead of tabbed view on international D802 version?!
11- does calling keypad have smart dialling?!
12- can i install dashclock on default screen of the default lockscreen?! Or i have to use the stupid provided one like on the note 3?!
13- how much free RAM you got when you bought the phone new and it had no apps?!
14- how much free RAM you have now (of course after closing all background apps by swiping them from recents) but installing a lot of apps that needs RAM?! ( chrome, whatsapp, viber, tango, skype, facebook, g+, avast, etc...)
15- does the system goes laggy when low on RAM like what happened on touchwiz and sense?!
16- does the phone goes very hot when playing heavy games for like 30min?! How much in temperature?! Is it like the nexus 4 or worse?!
17- is there is currently a MOD that allows running any app in Qslide mode like what happened with Spen window on note series?!
18- Is video recording that bad like it is said in many youtube videos?! Does it have really a hard time focusing?!
That's all folks!
Thank you guys!
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1. no - faster then nexus 4
2.no
3.Smotthest phone ever on the market, also fastest
4.Faster than nexus 4
5. it depends which keyboard you use
6.doesn't lag, but it's a little bit slower (1/2 a second) than rest of the phone a second, you can install third party dialers like me
7.No lag ever!!!!
8.You can swipe
9.You can swipe or make settings like pure android (just scroll down through settings)
10.Anwserd 9
11.yes
12.yes (i have it
13.when bought around 1200mb, now on reboot 900mb..lots of apps installed), there is no problem with ram, android manages it great
14.right now i have 650mb free, facebook, kaiten mail, browser open...
15.never had it lagging before, so don't know if this phone will know any lag ever...
16.Didn,t play any havy games, but when browsing, watching movies, heavy multitasking,no problems with heat ever. stays cool.
17.not yet
18. it's not bad for me, you have already a fix on xda.
Conclusion; fastest phone, best screen, best battery, best SoC, super usefull apps, zero lag phone on the market (excluding note 3, which is a phablet)
Sorry I'm out of thanks now. Will do it tomorrow
Thanks a lot man! This is really assuring!
1- when filling 5 screens with icons and widgets, does it become laggy swiping between screens!? Does the overall performance get affected!?
I have 6 pages, two of which are widgets, Ive noticed no lag at all.
2- following the above, does the launcher have any redraws when pressing home button like htc sense or touchwiz!?
I haven't seen it myself.
3- how do you compare the smoothness of the overall experience compared to pure android?! Is it smooth in general!?
I've run stock, cleanrom, and cyanogen on this. Stock is a little ram hungry, but as far as stock goes, it's butter smooth.
4- how do you compare opening apps speed and responsiveness of the whole system!? My nexus 4 is amazingly fast and responsive.
G2 is a beast, opening apps is instant for me.
5- when typing a text, do wrongly written words get underlined by zigzag red line like in pure android or like on windows Microsoft word?! (Automatic and live spelling check)
I'm looking at them now, yes.
6- does the system lag heavily when opening contacts/people app like it happens on touchwiz?! (Of course when having a lot of contacts synced with a lot of accounts)
I can't say that I could tell, I only have 60 contacts.
7- does scrolling in messaging app lags heavily if you have like 1000 sms?!
If you first start the app there is a .5 second jitter, but its smooth after.
8- in phone app, can you swipe from keys page to call log to favorites page like in nexus, or you will have to pick the tab manually on the top of the page?!
Yep, you can swipe.
9- also can you swipe between different apps ins settings or i will have to reach top of screen like in touchwiz?!
I use list mode.
10- can i have list settings view instead of tabbed view on international D802 version?!
Settings app has a setting for this.
11- does calling keypad have smart dialling?!
Yep, I saw a reference to it in settings.
12- can i install dashclock on default screen of the default lockscreen?! Or i have to use the stupid provided one like on the note 3?!
I never tried, but I had no issues with custom widgets yet.
13- how much free RAM you got when you bought the phone new and it had no apps?!
Probably the worst thing about this phone, Verizon had cluttered it bad, and the stock is a bit ram hungry, ~700mb was used.
14- how much free RAM you have now (of course after closing all background apps by swiping them from recents) but installing a lot of apps that needs RAM?! ( chrome, whatsapp, viber, tango, skype, facebook, g+, avast, etc...)
I'm running Cyanogen now, mine is significantly lower, but I'd guess ~400
15- does the system goes laggy when low on RAM like what happened on touchwiz and sense?!
I've never gotten low on ram, but I doubt it.
16- does the phone goes very hot when playing heavy games for like 30min?! How much in temperature?! Is it like the nexus 4 or worse?!
Its cool to the touch for me.
17- is there is currently a MOD that allows running any app in Qslide mode like what happened with Spen window on note series?!
I wouldn't know, I'm using cyanogen now.
18- Is video recording that bad like it is said in many youtube videos?! Does it have really a hard time focusing?!
Better than my friend's iPhone 5S. Quality is great.
Hope this helps you, I'm loving the G2
Sent from my awesome VZW LG G2
Thanks bro for your awesome reply!
Thanks to you helpful people. As much as I like to help out, that was above and beyond what I'm capable of on most days. This community is turning out to be pretty good.
-I haven't got recent bug but I have different. I keep apps in 6-7 folders. But when I restart device 2-3 apps in folders change order and folders (3G watchdog and booking). Does it only happen in my device?
-Is there any way to disable lockscreen help?
-Is there any way do enable radio without rooting device (my device has hardware support but it is disabled in my country firmware)?
Use your warranty and ask for a touch replacement.
I struggled with phone for half year and finally decided to send it to service.
My phone lagged pretty much from first day. With updates lag become less noticeable but unwanted tap events (clicks) were main problem that persisted whole time. I couldn't scroll through gallery without opening picture almost on every scroll. Scrolling web pages was often resulted on visiting links I didn't want to visit. Facebook page was pretty interesting because phone was clicking Like button on it's own and also was sending friend requests on its own.
With new touch my phone feels like a completely different device. No lag, no unwanted or missed taps.
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Video I recorded earlier (lag problem): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jttoOoC8k_Q
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Use your warranty and ask for a touch replacement.
I struggled with phone for half year and finally decided to send it to service.
My phone lagged pretty much from first day. With updates lag become less noticeable but unwanted tap events (clicks) were main problem that persisted whole time. I couldn't scroll through gallery without opening picture almost on every scroll. Scrolling web pages was often resulted on visiting links I didn't want to visit. Facebook page was pretty interesting because phone was clicking Like button on it's own and also was sending friend requests on its own.
With new touch my phone feels like a completely different device. No lag, no unwanted or missed taps.
P.S.
Video I recorded earlier (lag problem): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jttoOoC8k_Q
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That video just shows a badly optimised web page lagging, which it does on mine, but I have no touchscreen issues and no missed or unwanted taps. If I use a page which is well written with less ads, it's silky smooth.
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That video just shows a badly optimised web page lagging, which it does on mine, but I have no touchscreen issues and no missed or unwanted taps. If I use a page which is well written with less ads, it's silky smooth.
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I could agree that web page is badly optimized but on my old phone (Galaxy S4) scrolling works ok and worked earlier when I recorded video. Now, after touch replacement G4 scrolls is it even better.
Ok, some minor lag occurs but only when page loads more content on scrolling down (same is on every device I own). Lag on video was not caused by content loading but because of problem with phone and I'm happy now is resolved. As I told earlier, it feels like totally different (better) device now.
I could record video to show difference.
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That video just shows a badly optimised web page lagging, which it does on mine, but I have no touchscreen issues and no missed or unwanted taps. If I use a page which is well written with less ads, it's silky smooth.
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That site simply *is* smooth as can be on my G4 (5.1.1 / UCBrowser) :good:
Note: of course using an adblocker as ads can really cripple your phone, speed-wise... And this page has lots of ads, considering all the empty white spaces I see...