I really needed battery. I use my EVO a lot, not much as a smart phone, but as a little computer. I installed several dictionaries and I use them during the day, at least 8 hours or more. My battery was lasting 4 hours before getting the warning. I disabled GPS, 4G, WiFi, everything. I never listen to music on it. I got rid of the live wallpaper. I got rid of most widgets and killed apps several times an hour.
It was getting really stressing for me. I was not always lucky to be at a place with a power outlet.
So I had to do it. It was a somewhat expensive solution. It's the XP18000, which is almost like EVO (and this does not intend to be an advertisement). It's heavier than EVO, but it's just like another book in my backpack, but much smaller than a book. It's for laptops, but I figured out that in the future I will be able to use it for other gadgets, or for EVO II.
I've been using it for 3 days, and it seems that it will last for a week or longer, because it's almost full still. It's so great. At least for my peace of mind. Now I don't have to worry. I can be at ease.
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If you've got the room for it, I think that's a great idea. Like you said, you can use it for other devices as well. There are smaller ones out there - the Zagg Sparq comes to mind.
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If you've got the room for it, I think that's a great idea. Like you said, you can use it for other devices as well. There are smaller ones out there - the Zagg Sparq comes to mind.
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You are right. There were some other models (but they had only this brand for some reason) and they were cheaper, but maybe I'll buy a netbook or something, and it would be useful for that too. The box says it can power a laptop for 6 hours with one charge, so maybe it will last a week for evo, or even more, it looks like it. And of course, if I can use an outlet I will, because this battery charges max 500 times before dying according to the specs.
This goody might be too much for a smart phone.
Ah, and also I bought it with the Sprint rebate I just got yesterday.... I guess that's why they give you a rebate...
Well, look at it this way: If a full charge lasts you two days and you use it to the max all the time, it will last you 1000 days. That's almost 3 years of continuous use. Even if you dried it up every day, it would still spec out for a year and a half. And if you only used it for your phone and you get, say, 4 days out of it, it will last you through this presidency and the next.
Use an outlet if it's easy, but if it lasts anywhere near as long as it says it's going to, you don't have to be that conservative.
Hey OP, let me ask you something: Have tried not using advanced task killer? I see you're using it on your evo. Did you know Google and all developers recommend against using task killers and they can actually severely hurt your battery life? Just throwing that out there since you're complaining about battery life. You do mention that you're killing apps "several times an hour". Thats not good and I guarantee you makes a HUGE difference
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Use an outlet if it's easy, but if it lasts anywhere near as long as it says it's going to, you don't have to be that conservative.
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The other thing is that it's not just a power adapter, it a charger, so once EVO is charged, no more power pack for a few hours.
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Hey OP, let me ask you something: Have tried not using advanced task killer? I see you're using it on your evo. Did you know Google and all developers recommend against using task killers and they can actually severely hurt your battery life? Just throwing that out there since you're complaining about battery life. You do mention that you're killing apps "several times an hour". Thats not good and I guarantee you makes a HUGE difference
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I tried with the app killer, and without it, and I really didn't see much difference in battery life.
The only I noticed is that after the Froyo upgrade a few days ago, the app killer was useless, as the apps would come back right away. So it was useless. This is a stock EVO.
But you are right, now I can get rid of the killer!
(but as I said, I was overusing it as a dictionary, or as many dictionaries, so it was not a normal use.. It was on most of the time. It's easier to carry EVO loaded with dictionaries, than actual books...I was also using dictionaries on line, wordreference.com, etc. so I was (I am) definitely using it a lot, and that justifies the battery loss. I disabled the widgets to compensate for the other apps I was using)
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I tried with the app killer, and without it, and I really didn't see much difference in battery life.
The only I noticed is that after the Froyo upgrade a few days ago, the app killer was useless, as the apps would come back right away. So it was useless. This is a stock EVO.
But you are right, now I can get rid of the killer!
(but as I said, I was overusing it as a dictionary, or as many dictionaries, so it was not a normal use.. It was on most of the time. It's easier to carry EVO loaded with dictionaries, than actual books...I was also using dictionaries on line, wordreference.com, etc. so I was (I am) definitely using it a lot, and that justifies the battery loss. I disabled the widgets to compensate for the other apps I was using)
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Task Killers are garbage; don't use them. So let me get this straight, you use your Evo, with the screen on, at least 4 hours a day. That is why you are now using this Energizer battery pack to charge your Evo during the day?
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Task Killers are garbage; don't use them. So let me get this straight, you use your Evo, with the screen on, at least 4 hours a day. That is why you are now using this Energizer battery pack to charge your Evo during the day?
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I use EVO much more than 4 hours a day. Much more. I have to unlock the screen and press that little button maybe 40 times a day (it's a hassle), many times an hour, and that takes battery too I'm sure. I had to charge evo at least 3 times while on the road, at Starbucks or any place..... but since Starbucks started offering free WiFi, they covered many power outlets with chairs or cabinets.
I should have bought a little computer instead from the beginning, or a tablet, to load my dictionaries correct?
But now the problem is solved.
But again, I have to say that I was doing the same thing with my Blackberry before, and I would never have to recharge the battery until when I got home at night. That's why I expected the same, or at least I didn't even think on batteries when I switched to the HTC EVO. I wasn't thinking on the battery issues, because before I didn't have any.
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There is a problem with our battery life and we all know its true... I have even been given a new battery and HTC mains charger
I turn off any service im not using at the time (ie: wifi, BT, GPS, NETGPS,etc) not that I should have to do this, but lets story on track...
My battery will make about 1 day as I am A "power user" but if its not plugged in I wont have the juice for my alarm to wake me up, my wifes Sony Ericsson lasts 4-5 days per charge, but lets not compare apples and oranges, the whi-phone 3g my sister has sahe bought it about the same times as my g1, she hadn't ever heard of "deep cycling" 2-5 times when you get a new phone, she never lets it discharge fully and just tops off all the time, AFAIK she is treating a NIMH cell exactly the wrong way, BUT SHE GETS 1-3 DAYS depending on the type of use, and never turns off ANY of the 3g, gps, net gps, wifi, BT nada and Id say she uses hers alot because its her primary camera, GPS & A/V player
my question is WHY?
Im sure there must be somebody involved with the development of this phone/OS that reads thru here, since there is more exciting stuff coming from XDA than there is the market...
Im gonna add a poll that pertains to battery use...
I wanted to add one very negative one but hit submit not preview, maybe just post and dont vote if none apply..
they better come off a new battery almost all other new phones will get 1-2 day + average use, Ive had phones that could go 3-4. but the state of the art G1 mindblowing innovative phone wont even work a whole day, so what if its bigger than the whi-phone, it has no keyboard.
I for one would like to hear some solid info on a replacement battery and back, for new and existing G1 users, early adopters got the fuzzy end of the lollipop on the HTC->headphone jack adapter I got the headphones with the htc angled adapter from fleabay, so many manufactures stick it to the early adopter, when we are the ones that get the word of mouth going, as people go "WOW that thing is cool!,what is it?! they know when we bought out phones and should be able to figure out when the head phone rev change was made, so send them to the first of the buyers....
IF the battery issue isnt fixed, alot of people will be very angry and the g1 will flop.
I think the bad press is starting to out weigh the good press the G1 and possibly android as a whole is at a crossroad. If the g1 tanks Android will be stained forever...thankfully enuff I dont think XDA-DEV would give up on this badboy, I love this thing, and I love it for what it can be
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Well stated sir.
HTC/Google need to fix battery problems in G1. Maybe it's soft bug, but maybe it's a hardware bug - Nobody knows
I dunno. With normal use, I get about 12 hours or more from my stock battery. That's about the same as other HTC phones I've had.
there is a battery issue and we are al aware of it.
i have managed to have it last through out the day
just set the brightness to the lowest possible, sleep time to 15 secs
turn off data and wifi and anything else that you are not using
its not how the phone was intended to be used, but it's what i ave to do for now
I find it fine for everyday use. Of course I haven't done a full test but maybe tomorrow I will.
I would like to use my G1 like I use my WinMo but no way I can with the battery.
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IF the battery issue isnt fixed, alot of people will be very angry and the g1 will flop.
I think the bad press is starting to out weigh the good press the G1 and possibly android as a whole is at a crossroad. If the g1 tanks Android will be stained forever.
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I think you're exaggerating here a little bit. The battery life, while it got press at first, has faded from the limelight of android news for the general population. The G1 is already far from a flop and I don’t think there’s going to be a sudden mass return of all the handsets sold.
Let’s face it living on the cutting edge means you will get cut sometimes. Your high expectations will not always be met and manufacturers will frequently not care. The battery life is less than what many people expected, but we’ve learned to deal with it. At least we have options (power management, backup batteries, and expanded capacity batteries), but I’d not hold my breath on HTC making any major moves. How long has the issue been going with the TYTN II drivers anyway?
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BUT SHE GETS 1-3 DAYS depending on the type of use, and never turns off ANY of the 3g, gps, net gps, wifi, BT nada
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I have no idea what kind of use gets 1-3 days, but it certainly isn't 3G web browsing. Most iPhone 3G battery life tests clock 3G data use at about 3-5 hours. Based on my own usage of a friend's iPhone 3G, that seems to be about right. Coincidentally my G1 gets about 3-5 hours of 3G data use as well.
Frankly, from an engineer's point of view I have not seen any power drain tests conducted with enough rigor and variable control to be worthy of being called a truly scientific analysis. Even the best "battery life tests" out there aren't declaring what type of testing environment (los and distance to closest 3G tower), what background apps are installed, ambient temperature (which affects the battery discharge profile), etc. Without considering and removing these variables from the test, deviation could be as high as... well there's no fixing the percentage really. It's all just junk data.
I do notice after I installed Task Manager, to close out programs I am not using my battery life went up. There are a lot of un needed start up apps.
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There are a lot of un needed start up apps.
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Care to give some examples? Im curious to see what runs on startup that isnt needed.
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I have no idea what kind of use gets 1-3 days, but it certainly isn't 3G web browsing. Most iPhone 3G battery life tests clock 3G data use at about 3-5 hours. Based on my own usage of a friend's iPhone 3G, that seems to be about right. Coincidentally my G1 gets about 3-5 hours of 3G data use as well.
Yep my friend has iphone and we did test last weekend, both went 3 hours and change then died. If i dont use internet and set timeout and brightness down plus use task manager mine will go as long as my dash. I personally dont care about the battery life, i have a computer, home charger and car charger and i drive for a living so if it gets low no biggie. In my opinion i dont see android going anywhere and i love the g1. Just like wm its gonna take time to get off the ground. To say its at a crossroads is ridiculous.
I am using ADP1.1 and yea if I am browsing the net with 3G for 3-5 hours straight I start seeing the battery go down. But from 100% to 0% takes me longer than 5 hours. I know because I like to lay in bed and don't care to come check my messages LOL
I bought a G1 last week and so far I have been really dissapointed. After having an elf and seeing other htc phones I was expecting big things from the G1.
I am now a week into ownership and after 5 full charge - discharge cycles I am managing to get 24 hours out of the phone with next to no use what so ever. If i check my emails and do 30 mins browsing the phone is dead in 6 or less.
The hardware is simply put 'very poor' my screen is wobbly and the back is loose, all this after just a week.
As for android, it is fantastic everything I expected (except hotmail support) and there is no way it is going to flop. Its just a shame that google and htc didn't wait until they had the right phone for the job.
Thats just my 10p worth!!
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Care to give some examples? Im curious to see what runs on startup that isnt needed.
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It all depends on what you have installed. for me the start up is. I beleve amazon does too, but I uninstalled that. But the first thing I do is go into task manager and kill everything. And only like two things auto start up. I really with HTC built in a x-button app for android. I loved the click x for close.
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Under light usage I get about 36 hours from full charge to shutdown. That's GPS on, Bluetooth on, Autosync on, periodically doing e-mail and web browsing.
Under heavy usage (Which is basically I listened to MP3s for 2 hours) it goes at least 17 hours before I plug it back in. I haven't tested but I'd bet it could go 20 or more.
That's as good as (or better) than I was getting on the Wizard/MDA.
I dunno if anyone has stated it but the problem with the battery has to do with the phone recieving the cell signal. For some reason the phone runs in overload when searching for a cell signal...I noticed this one day when T-Mo suspended my service and my battery meter never moved all day, I think by night it was down to 85-90%...sure enough that night when I paid my bill and the phone started picking up signal again, the battery depleted at "normal" speed.
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This extended battery barely increases the size of the phone...
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so exactly how much is "barely"? care to give side by side comparison shots?
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As for android, it is fantastic everything I expected (except hotmail support) and there is no way it is going to flop. Its just a shame that google and htc didn't wait until they had the right phone for the job.
Thats just my 10p worth!!
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Why do i keep hearing that there is no hotmail support? Android (and G1) works with hotmail just fine! Just go to the Email program and set it up. WHY!! .. I am having connection errors sometimes though..
Battery is a big issue. Never had any luck with it.. EVER.. just unplugged it and after about 1+ hour it's down to 66%. Played a game (slide puzzle) watched 2 youtube vids of about 3 minutes each. And I had it fully drained and recharged a couple of times in the beginning. It didn't even took 10 minutes to drop from 100% to 89%.. But I was on wifi.. Maybe this is normal.
Software has a lot to do with this I think. Yesterday I had about 50-60% left. Did something, can't remember what, opening programs or music. And closed it. After 5 minutes I checked and battery was hot and had drained to orange level. I checked with task manager and only calendar/messaging/tunewiki/music was on. I closed all and restarted the phone, cuz it was still hot. Luckily it lasted a few hours till I got home, with very carefull use..
I will be getting the Evo when it will be coming out and I and probably 100 other people are worried about the battery life of this monster. What we know is this guy has a huge screen, a WiMax radio and a 1 GHz processor that will suck up the battery life crazy. However, HTC has made sure to put in a 1500 mAh battery that is almost as big as the phone. Coming from the Pre this is comforting but I am still kinda skeptical about the battery life if this monster.
So the purpose of this thread is for all of those lucky people who already have a Evo to post there experiences with the life of this superphone. What I need of you is normal daily battery life with 3G and 4G, normal screen brighness, how much you use internet, email check frequency, and anything else you what to mention. This will really help alot of people out here who are potential Evo owners.
Oh, and Thanks in advance!!!!
EDIT to moderators: This maybe a good thread to make a sticky.
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This is the beast of a battery I'm planning to get for my future Evo. Can't wait to see what 2000 mAh of juice will do to its durability .
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This is the beast of a battery I'm planning to get for my future Evo. Can't wait to see what 2000 mAh of juice will do to its durability .
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Keep in mind: this battery will add 25-33% to the thickness.
The extra 3 to 4 mm of thickness would make the Evo as thick as the G1 which to me is no problem at all considering my current phone is the G1 WITH an extended battery.
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Keep in mind: this battery will add 25-33% to the thickness.
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Not much of a problem for me; if anything, it will make the Evo easier to hold in the hand.
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That just may be perfect for the protruding camera lens many are worried about!
Well I live in a 3g area and work in a 4g area. I have a 2 hour drive each way and half way I hit 4g. Right now if I just stay on 3g the battery can last me all day with normal usage. I usually only charge the device while I'm driving home from work so I can listen to my music or podcasts. I'd say on normal usage you get about 12 hours. That's what I get at least. But here's a solution for you. The Evo takes a normal HTC Hero or Touch Pro 2 battery. I bought a TP2 battery on eBay for about $5. Now all I need to do is make sure I keep one charged and the other charged and in my car. Then I can swap if I need to.
Also note that as of now, 4g sucks battery big time. I think this is a bug in the software so once they fix that then we'll be fine. But right now if you leave 4g on permanently you probably only get about 4 hrs. Just a warning.
Thx for the comments so far! My experience with the Pre, which had alot of battery bugs at the start, says that after all the bugs are worked out it will give you 1-3 hours more. So with 4G running 5-6 hours strait is an ok deal. Just the most important thing to me right now is just to have at least 12 hours of usage with a far amount of browsing on 4G at the time.
I previously owned an HD2, which is nearly identical to the EVO 4G except for OS, and thought battery life was pretty good. Got at least a day out of it and I was on it all the time (wifi connection mostly).
this is pretty surprising that people are getting this much out of the battery.
i was figuring maybe four or so hours max. i can't even last a whole day on my droid with low usage, but the fact i dropped it in the toilet could have something to do with it.
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this is pretty surprising that people are getting this much out of the battery.
i was figuring maybe four or so hours max. i can't even last a whole day on my droid with low usage, but the fact i dropped it in the toilet could have something to do with it.
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Ha ha. Yeah toilets and phones usually don't mix. Unless it's WinMo in which case thats where it belongs
But yeah my battery has been very good to me. Definitely can't complain. On a side note it does take a considerable longer amount of time to charge than the Hero I was using but that only makes sense.
Yesterday I took my Evo to work with me for the first time since receiving it Friday. It had a full charge when I left the house at about 340pm. At about 1030pm, I got the message to connect the phone to the charger. In between that time span, I did some web browsing and sent some text messages (I love the Evo keyboard). I didn't make any calls because I'm still carrying my Palm Pre with me until the 4th when I can get my service switched to my Evo. But anyway the Evo lasted a lot longer than my Palm Pre. It probably would have even lasted longer but I had some programs pulling information every 15mins and some every 2 hours. So I set all them to pull information at longer intervals. So I'm going to see how long it'll take before I get that message again. But so far the battery that came with Evo serves me fine.
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Well I live in a 3g area and work in a 4g area. I have a 2 hour drive each way and half way I hit 4g. Right now if I just stay on 3g the battery can last me all day with normal usage. I usually only charge the device while I'm driving home from work so I can listen to my music or podcasts. I'd say on normal usage you get about 12 hours. That's what I get at least. But here's a solution for you. The Evo takes a normal HTC Hero or Touch Pro 2 battery. I bought a TP2 battery on eBay for about $5. Now all I need to do is make sure I keep one charged and the other charged and in my car. Then I can swap if I need to.
Also note that as of now, 4g sucks battery big time. I think this is a bug in the software so once they fix that then we'll be fine. But right now if you leave 4g on permanently you probably only get about 4 hrs. Just a warning.
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I have the Hero 1800mAh battery in my Hero and it's been a champ so far. Going to grab another one for my Evo once I pick it up this Friday.
turn said:
this is pretty surprising that people are getting this much out of the battery.
i was figuring maybe four or so hours max. i can't even last a whole day on my droid with low usage, but the fact i dropped it in the toilet could have something to do with it.
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What are you doing with a phone in a bathroom? Jerk off material?
As the owner of a Sprint Hero, I was very happy to discover that the battery is interchangeable with my Evo.
When I actually tested out the battery (second day of ownership): I was at 36% remaining after 14 hours of moderate use (auto-backlight, occasional texting, reading emails, installed a few apps, browsing XDA, etc). Some observations: The first 10-15% will drain more quickly than the others, incredibly intense apps like 3D gaming will extremely quickly drain the battery (like 6% in half of an hour), and keep your brightness on 20% or so because auto seems to always keep it very bright.
Yesterday I tried the typical "full discharge" test since people seem to rave about it, and I don't see any harm. I will see how this goes today.
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What are you doing with a phone in a bathroom? Jerk off material?
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Ha ha. Ironic how someone named jigglywiggly said this And honestly, why not? That should be a selling point of this phone ha ha
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Ha ha. Ironic how someone named jigglywiggly said this And honestly, why not? That should be a selling point of this phone ha ha
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Hell, that's the whole purpose of the kickstand, right?
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Hell, that's the whole purpose of the kickstand, right?
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Ha ha. Amen brother
i had it on top of the toilet playing music while i showered...or so the story goes. lolol
My battery made it to 1:00 o'clock today with the new 2.2 update that i did last night. It normally lasts till 11 - 12 at night. Whats up with that?
FYI - All the same apps,widgets, and settings
**UPDATE**
Doing a factory reset fixed the problem for me!!
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My battery made it to 1:00 o'clock today with the new 2.2 update that i did last night. It normally lasts till 11 - 12 at night. Whats up with that?
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Strange, I'm sitting at 75% after 5 hours off the charger and using it for moderate text usage (probably less than 80 messages today). Usually around this time it's sitting closer to 60%.
i have the .3 update and went from about 24 hours to about 8-10 hours. Battery life cut in half. My friend who has .3 is having same issue too. So much for increasing battery life.
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i have the .3 update and went from about 24 hours to about 8-10 hours. Battery life cut in half. My friend who has .3 is having same issue too. So much for increasing battery life.
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Wow. Have you searched the forum to see if anyone else has the same issue? If not I hope it's not an isolated incident. Then again if it's isolated maybe you can get support on it better...? Good luck finding a solution.
You gave us zero information to help you. So thus, you will not get any help.
There are about a billion threads on here about battery life and how to tweak it. When you flashed 2.2 you will need to do those steps again.
yeah some people are reporting bad battery life after update. most people i know are on .3. don't know if .6 fixes this hopefully we get update soon
I did a test last night. Dropped 13% between 1130 and 3:30am With wifi on (got up cause of baby), then only 10% between 330 and 8am with wifi off. So a drop of only 23% overnight.
That's with one exchange account, one gmail account (both syncing as items arrive), htc news set to not sync, but newsdesk and feedr both syncing. Facebook for htc set to sync contacts only.
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I had the same issue on all 2.2 ROMs I tried.. i am now going through the apps one at a time to see which one is the issue.
right now I am 7 hours in and sitting at 75% very light use ( read about 7 emails, 5 new articles and little to no Web surfing). installed 10s so far other than the standard with Fresh latest ROM that is.
I've actually had very good battery life, I'm running the .3 release. Battery life for me has been very comparable to running Baked Snack 9.6, with its underclocking/undervolting power save features. Moderate use of the phone for 8 hours (wifi, browsing websites here and there, one navigation route, texting, bunch of short phone calls, playing some games), my battery was around 65 or so, same as I had before for similar usage.
I did do a full wipe though, and haven't calibrated my battery since updating.
Aridon said:
You gave us zero information to help you. So thus, you will not get any help.
There are about a billion threads on here about battery life and how to tweak it. When you flashed 2.2 you will need to do those steps again.
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I am just stating a observation on my part. And i know all the little tricks of how to get better battery life. But like i said, before the update i was getting a full day of battery and now after the update i am getting half. With the same settings and the usage on my part.
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I am just stating a observation on my part. And i know all the little tricks of how to get better battery life. But like i said, before the update i was getting a full day of battery and now after the update i am getting half. With the same settings and the usage on my part.
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maybe because some of the htc sync stuff that you might have disabled before re-enabled.
Check that.
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maybe because some of the htc sync stuff that you might have disabled before re-enabled.
Check that.
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Yeah, i already went through all the settings last night.
Aridon said:
You gave us zero information to help you. So thus, you will not get any help.
There are about a billion threads on here about battery life and how to tweak it. When you flashed 2.2 you will need to do those steps again.
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This is not directed at you personally, but at the words you chose to use:
I am sick and tired of "tweaks and settings and cutting things off." I used them and got over 30 hours on both DamageControl and Fresh.
I paid Sprint/HTC good money for this awesome phone (and am committed to pay them a whole lot more over the course of the next 22 months).
While I can understand the 4G thing, why should I have to cut off Data-WiFi-Bluetooth, power down the CPU, not use it a lot in order to get... in short, drive it like a Toyota Prius when then phone is billed as a Maserati? Why should I have to try out this app and that app(Overclock widget, SetCPU, System Manager, Task Killer, Autostarts etc which all use battery too) in order to get the phone to do what it should have done on June 4, 2010?
Most of the battery draining apps and widgets come pre-loaded with sense (i.e. the Favorite widget, Friendstream etc). Why should I have to resort to rooting my phone or not using it in order to get the thing to last all day?
I'm keeping my EVO cause I love the device, but maybe Sprint/HTC need a little of the medicine that Jobs/Apple is getting in the form of lawsuits due to over-promising/under-delivering.
/off_my_soap_box
You should send that rant to HTC and Sprint... I think we all stand behind you on that one.
there are lots of reasons a battery might not last. there are way to many tweaks out there which is why you have to do it yourself.
First set the phone up like you normally have it and test the battery life. if you can live with it your good. if not start looking at the settings. Read the tweaks but don't just take them as golden as everyone is different and uses their phone different. Ask yourself if you real need that setting. (I like my screen time out at 2 min. do I need it NO 1 min is fine). When done with the settings move to the apps. load the flat ROM no apps and run for a hour and track your battery life. then add the apps 1 at a time or in small groups and let run an hour and track. there are was if find what apps are using the CPU or Battery but many do this normally and yet don't effect the battery much. Only way i have found is old school add them one at a time. When you find a bad one decide if you need it or can find a replacement.
I am done with Sense as Launcher Pro Plus is awesome and now with the only Widget I was missing (Calendar). Once I done going through my app list I will create a new thread in General to list the bad application I found unless someone else has or does before I done that is.
From what I have gathered from using .3 that apps auto sync/update on their own now with "always on mobile data" turned off. if you use advanced task killer, do a kill of all apps then turn the screen off. If you wait for a few minutes and turn the screen back on you will notice that apps like news, messages, Twitter, Facebook clock, weather and others will be active. From what I gather the decrease in battery life is from apps like those will send/receive data on 2.2 while on 2.1 apps would not update/sync until you manually refreshed or opened the app, as long as you didn't have "always on mobile data" enabled.
Edit: this reason is why I uninstalled fring. Just too bad I cannot uninstalled qik.
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This is not directed at you personally, but at the words you chose to use:
I am sick and tired of "tweaks and settings and cutting things off." I used them and got over 30 hours on both DamageControl and Fresh.
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It is a mini-computer. You don't use it like a "phone" anymore. You shouldn't expect more than 15-20 hours on it. Do you get angry when your laptop runs out of life after 5-6 hours? If you don't want to do tweaks, then don't. Keep a micro-USB at your desk at work and charge it there. I, myself, enjoy rooting so I don't mind tweaking it. I also get 30 hours of life on it due to this. If you don't like to do that, you get what you put into it.
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I paid Sprint/HTC good money for this awesome phone (and am committed to pay them a whole lot more over the course of the next 22 months).
While I can understand the 4G thing, why should I have to cut off Data-WiFi-Bluetooth, power down the CPU, not use it a lot in order to get... in short, drive it like a Toyota Prius when then phone is billed as a Maserati? Why should I have to try out this app and that app(Overclock widget, SetCPU, System Manager, Task Killer, Autostarts etc which all use battery too) in order to get the phone to do what it should have done on June 4, 2010?
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Again, you have unrealistic expectations for a smart phone it seems. All I have is Set CPU running on my phone with Fresh 3.0.1 and works just fine. I still use my phone like a "Maserati", it just lowers the CPU when the screen is powered off. That is like saying you want your car to idle when you get home at night until the next morning. It doesn't change how you drive it, just how you store it in the garage.
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Most of the battery draining apps and widgets come pre-loaded with sense (i.e. the Favorite widget, Friendstream etc). Why should I have to resort to rooting my phone or not using it in order to get the thing to last all day?
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You don't have to use them though. You can remove friendstream and go with either the twitter or FB update app or go without either and just check facebook like anyone else. As far as favorites go, you don't have to use that either. You can just make shortcuts to each person's phone number on that same screen if you think that is sucking all your battery life. There are always other options or fixes, but again you expect the phone to come out of the box perfect without any customization. You are getting away from what Android really is. Something tells me the Iphone would have been more your liking since it is built around lack of true customization. This isn't a rip, but just saying if you want cookie cutter phone reliability, it is hard to beat Apple. If you want the ability to tinker with the phone, the power to change things, and the power to make your phone yours, then that is more Android.
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I'm keeping my EVO cause I love the device, but maybe Sprint/HTC need a little of the medicine that Jobs/Apple is getting in the form of lawsuits due to over-promising/under-delivering.
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I can understand your frustration, but nothing was ever promised to us on purchase. I don't remember anywhere seeing something saying the battery would last 30+ hours out of the box. Apple had an actual structural issue with their phone, that is why they had the lawsuits and PR nightmare. This is just the phone doing what most would probably expect(at least anyone who had a G1 or Hero or any of the earlier Android phones). You love the device enough to keep it even with your frustration, something tells me it works quite well for you. But I have yet to see any over-promising/under-delivering on the Evo myself.
And no, I don't work for Sprint or HTC. And no offense meant to you as a person, just I didn't understand your motives on your frustration. Guess we will have different opinions on the Evo so far.
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maybe because some of the htc sync stuff that you might have disabled before re-enabled.
Check that.
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I had the same battery problem after updating to 2.2. After 3 hours my battery was at 50%. Normally it'd be at 50% after 9 to 10 hours of usage.
I did find that some settings had been reset. Once I turned off all the crap syncing, gtalk logging in, Sprint Zone, etc my battery usage has seemed to flatten out.
I made it an hour and only dropped 2% which is much more like it. This is all with very little usage going on.
Buy a new battery! Best solution!
No joda!
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very funny just pluged my phone in using flipz newest after 19 hours
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Hey guys! I'm a new user on this forum and I also a completely new android user, I have just gotten the HTC Desire HD. And I'm really really enjoying the OS. The way you can customize the OS is amazing! And Therefore I feel like I have been missing out for a while.
However there is one single problem about the HTC Desire HD and sadly it's a pretty big problem. (You guessed it,) the battery life. I'm not gonna lie, if i cut some features i can easily get through a whole day. But whats the point of buying a phone with lot's of features if you can't use them, and whats the point of having a 4.3" screen if you can't have the brightness level at 50+.
To the point!
HTC have already made updated batteries that have a much higher capacity than the original batteries, these are for some of their other products.
(just look at the higher capacity HD2 batteries by HTC, they have a higher capacity than the original HD2 batteries.)
That's why i suggest that we all contact HTC and let them know that we are both aware and annoyed by the horrible battery. And then request a better and improved battery for the Desire HD.
If you look at their updates, they have a pretty good history of listening to their customers.
And if their customer service department get about 300 requests in one single day I am absolutely sure that we will see a result in a month or maybe even faster.
I live in Denmark myself and I've seen a similar thread in
a Danish forum and in two days time we have had 183 people send mails to the Scandinavian HTC customer service.
Now there is only about 2000 active users on that forum so that's pretty good for two days. And with such a huge success in a Danish forum, I'm sure a big forum like this would do even better!
So if you have the time to write a little email to the HTC customer service telling them about the poor battery life and then make a request for a better battery, I (and probably every DHD user) would appreciate it.
And even if you are one of those lucky users that can go for days without charging while having standard settings,helping us wouldn't hurt.
Thanks in Advance
Well....although I do get your point, I am not sure that I, and probably other people as well, agree entirely on the 'horrible' battery life.
Yes, at first, it does look to have poor capacity when you get your DHD out of the box.
But remember, a lot of people, if not allm are using their new toy a lot the first couple of days.
If you browse this forum and the DHD topics you'll see that people report a lot better battery life after a couple of charges.
In addition to this, when you get into rooting and flashing, you'll see that users with custom roms, custom kernels and special profiles setup in Setcpu (like less Mhz usage when the screen is off) actually even get better battery life out if their DHD....
In essence, from what I have read, most people are able to use their DHD for one day without charging, which in my opinion, is quite acceptable, considering the size of the screen, the speed of the device and the possibilities and syncing going on....
If I sometimes read other cells'threads, it appears to me that the battery life on the DHD is not that far off, or even is better, than other top devices....
Having said that.....the effort you take I understand for sure, I just am not sure that HTC will do anything about it (as I think what we get is what we should expect)...
Where is the solution in that? Infact there is no solution its how it is
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DHD battery life sucks.
There is no point defending it. Its a bloody mobile phone, it supposed to be able to work out of box, not a science project that u have to spend days tweaking it in order to last a day without the bloody adapter!
u can tell i m really crossed with DHD battery life...
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It does work out of the box. Did yours not turn on?
If you mean 'it's supposed to have the best possible life the first time I fully charge it on day one' then, no it's not. You are wrong.
I just don't get it this was my first proper Android phone after coming from a HD2 and an iPhone 4 and the battery life is on par with both out of the box however simply reducing the time some apps sync I mean can you really not wait the 2 sec ish Twitter etc take to update? Really does improve battery life I have my screen set to 30% brightness which is more than enough if not you need specsavers not a new battery.
At a push I can get 2 days out of my DHD and I would say I'm a average to heavy user about 30 min calls 50 odd text and a couple of hours playing games surfing the net
Gadget show last night drained an iPhone 4 from full charge to flat in 2 hours using the layer app
I don't use setcpu etc I've just used some common sense.
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It does work out of the box. Did yours not turn on?
If you mean 'it's supposed to have the best possible life the first time I fully charge it on day one' then, no it's not. You are wrong.
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well, i charged mine overnight, leave home at 7, phone dead most days by 5pm. u can defend the battery life as much as you want, and i m glad u like yours. less than 12hr of standard use makes any smartphone useless in my view.
wakers said:
Gadget show last night drained an iPhone 4 from full charge to flat in 2 hours using the layer app
I don't use setcpu etc I've just used some common sense.
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I use iphone4 along side my DHD, almost identical setup in terms of sync and updates. when my DHD battery flat out in the afternoon, iphone4 has typically over 80% left.
I dont think it takes a rocket scientist to see DHD's battery is an issue.
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less than 12hr of standard use makes any smartphone useless in my view.
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Yeah, I would agree.
cezent said:
well, i charged mine overnight, leave home at 7, phone dead most days by 5pm. u can defend the battery life as much as you want, and i m glad u like yours. less than 12hr of standard use makes any smartphone useless in my view.
I use iphone4 along side my DHD, almost identical setup in terms of sync and updates. when my DHD battery flat out in the afternoon, iphone4 has typically over 80% left.
I dont think it takes a rocket scientist to see DHD's battery is an issue.
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Unplug mine from charging about midnight, get home from work between 18.30 and 20.30 and most nights I have approx 30-40% battery left, LiOn batteries need multiple charge / discharge cycles to get the best out of them so no phone is gonna be at it's best outta the box.
There seems to be massive difference in peoples experience with there DHD mine defo lasts as long as the iPhone 4 I had how yours can last less than 20% there must be something wrong
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mine actually died last night (the first night i had it) i was a little surprised but i checked the battery usage and com.zxing..... used like 70%
lol it seems the barcode scanner didn't close and kept the camera on all night
I am a heavy user Facebook sync every hour a hundred odd texts a day few hours of internet browsing and I can get more than 12 hours mainly like 15 hours unplug at 7.30am and charge it 12.30am
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it seems that some people have a very good battery life even with heavy use,and some don't. I am new to android having come from windows mobile. In winmo devices,the radio version on the device can make a difference to the battery life on similiar devices.maybe this is the same case on DHD because I noticed there are several version of stock roms with different built of radio image.
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iznee said:
it seems that some people have a very good battery life even with heavy use,and some don't. I am new to android having come from windows mobile. In winmo devices,the radio version on the device can make a difference to the battery life on similiar devices.maybe this is the same case on DHD because I noticed there are several version of stock roms with different built of radio image.
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There isn't really a benchmark for "heavy user". I reckon its largely due to different interpretations. Throw the difference in batteries that are likely to exist due to the manufacturing process, and you'd get varying reported results.
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why do people complaint so much about battery life of DHD and other smartphone. when you look at their capabilities, you wouldn't switch your laptop on an expect it to last all day. cause its a smartphone doesn't mean it can do everything for you!
if the battery really bad, then the is a fault i.e faulty battery,app which is eating up resources, radio constantly changing from 2g to 3g which i think one of the biggest drain on battery or a set up which just going to drain battery faster etc etc. These phone when "out of the box" are set up to show the phone off, so yes its going to have it all sing and dancing at you! with everything switched on why you taylor the setting to meet your needs. please don't come back and say "but yes why have i got a smartphone and then i have to switch off all these features" you don't but don't expect it to last all day.
sorry about the rant but i think some people just have unrealistic expectations how long a smartphone can last. people who complain that the phone cant last 24hrs, why would you want it to last that long?. you telling me you don't sleep in that period of time if you want a phone to last 2 days get a nokia 8950! an if your a person who uses it as a business phone, come on what do you expect? your a heavy user. use some sense, have it so you can charge on the go or a get a nokia 8950 as your business phone, an use your smartphone as your own phone.
cattleprod said:
why do people complaint so much about battery life of DHD and other smartphone. when you look at their capabilities, you wouldn't switch your laptop on an expect it to last all day. cause its a smartphone doesn't mean it can do everything for you!
if the battery really bad, then the is a fault i.e faulty battery,app which is eating up resources, radio constantly changing from 2g to 3g which i think one of the biggest drain on battery or a set up which just going to drain battery faster etc etc. These phone when "out of the box" are set up to show the phone off, so yes its going to have it all sing and dancing at you! with everything switched on why you taylor the setting to meet your needs. please don't come back and say "but yes why have i got a smartphone and then i have to switch off all these features" you don't but don't expect it to last all day.
sorry about the rant but i think some people just have unrealistic expectations how long a smartphone can last. people who complain that the phone cant last 24hrs, why would you want it to last that long?. you telling me you don't sleep in that period of time if you want a phone to last 2 days get a nokia 8950! an if your a person who uses it as a business phone, come on what do you expect? your a heavy user. use some sense, have it so you can charge on the go or a get a nokia 8950 as your business phone, an use your smartphone as your own phone.
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True, but i honestly cant see why it would hurt to encourage HTC to make a new battery with higher capacity as a part of their accessory lineup for the Desire HD.
sorry yeah i do agree with you, that HTC sould bring out a higher capactiy battery and don't understand why HTC have not used a higher capactiy battery in first place. ive also have a X10(1500mAh) and BB storm2(1400mAh) both have higher capactiy, and X10 is the worst for battery life out of the 3 phones and DHD beats both these phone on battery life.
HTC have the reasons why they used that size battery for the DHD and if they do bring out a higher capactiy at least you can believe the claims of it being a 1800mAh, were these 3rd party batteries claim 1800mAh but really you only getting 1400mAh.
i was not aiming this rant at you, an im sorry, its to people that complain about battery life of todays smartphone and there expections of them.
Test it! You must not use more Power per Hour than 1%.If you are at 4% you do something wrong. In standby of course...
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walda said:
Test it! You must not use more Power per Hour than 1%.If you are at 4% you do something wrong. In standby of course...
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How would you test it?
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Test it! You must not use more Power per Hour than 1%.If you are at 4% you do something wrong. In standby of course...
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Mine is using about 4 an hour. But I figure that's cos I rarely properly exit apps.
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Be careful with these 3rd Party batteries. Some may work, others may not.
Generally I wouldn't use a cheap high capacity battery, you cannot be certain of their manufacturing process or reliability. I would recommend buying an additional "Official" HTC battery. I keep a spare, wrapped in cling-film, in my car.
andyharney said:
Generally I wouldn't use a cheap high capacity battery, you cannot be certain of their manufacturing process or reliability. I would recommend buying an additional "Official" HTC battery. I keep a spare, wrapped in cling-film, in my car.
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i wouldnt even trust the "official" ones, i have seen fake nokia batteries where the hologram has been counterfeit, and i would bet that happens with alot of "official" batteries...
I wouldn't buy anything "Official" from eBay anyway. Find an approved HTC re-seller and Robert's your fathers brother.
andyharney said:
I wouldn't buy anything "Official" from eBay anyway. Find an approved HTC re-seller and Robert's your fathers brother.
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Thanks for reply, but I allready contact HTC and they said can give me just same baterry 1230 mA, I don`t now, maybe in a future they will be realised another baterry better than this one which came in box with device
Haveyou got Juice Defender installed?
Here's my tale...
I got my DHD last Saturday, having spent 2 years in the company of a reliable and juice-frugal TouchHD. What a shock the DHD was! I set it up to do the same things the THD did (push Exchange server, 4 other email accounts syncing every 10 minutes, FB, etc), and I found a full battery lasted 5 hours. After tweaking it to within an inch of its life, including making exchange only look for new mail every 30 mins, it was only marginally better.
I called HTC UK support on Thursday and described the issues. I had until this Saturday (yesterday) to decide if I was keeping the phone, and despite loving its features, design, etc, I just could not live with a battery which failed to last a full day without being tethered to a charger.
The chap I spoke to at HTC checked the incident logs and NO-ONE HAS REPORTED CRAP BATTERY LIFE OFFICIALLY TO HTC!!! I found that amazing, but I guess most folks would rather ***** on here about it than tell someone who really needs to hear it. ;-) Anyway, he systematically went through everything I needed to do with the phone so that he understood what kind of user I was, and then as an afterthought said, "I have a great little app on my phone which manages the services I'm not using and switches them off", so I asked him to tell me more... "Well, I'm not really supposed to push non-HTC apps", he said, "but if you squeeze and orange, you get...?" and then "...and in a football team you have strikers, midfielders, and ....?"
Juice Defender, says I. Yep, he says.
So, here I am, 3 days later, and this app has revolutionised the phone for me. I still have push email on, but juice defender just turns on 3G for 1 minute every 15 minutes and runs all the updates (5 mail accounts, FB update, exchange sync, etc). I put JD on a fully charged phone at 1pm on thursday, never charged it again, and went to bed with over 40% juice left. Right now, I've been up since 8amwhen the phone was unplugged, and its nearly 11am now, and I've been on ebay for 20 mins, played a pool game for 20 mins, checked my emails 3 times, and installed 2 apps via AppBrain, and I still have 87% battery. Without JD in, I'm convinced that would be down to about 25%.
Works like a dream for me, and it doesnt feel as though I'm sacrificing anything to achieve this great battery life. If I want to use the internet browser it just overrides JD, until I close the browser. Perfect!
Worth a try for anyone struggling with battery, and it certainly works for me. It also has a little widget which displays how "big" your battery is. Mine now thinks its 1.83 times the size of the battery I really have (which equates to having a battery of about 2250mAh!!!).
RTR
If you like JD, look for Ultimate Juice. It's from the same dev as JD.
It allows further battery tweaks, CPU scaling, location based data to name a few. Its a nice addition to JD.
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If you like JD, look for Ultimate Juice. It's from the same dev as JD.
It allows further battery tweaks, CPU scaling, location based data to name a few. Its a nice addition to JD.
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Thanks Andy, I'll do that. Already passed the gospel according to JD on to another DHD owner at work (fracking copycat, if you ask me!) and a pal with a normal (now officially renamed "crappy" to my pal's face ) Desire, and it is doing the business for them too.
I forgot to mention, that people trying JD may need to set it up as an exception if they also use an auto task killer, or it may get killed as another process the user forgets to close.
No problem, you sure you need a task killer?
Android 2.2 does a very good job at handling tasks/apps. Plus its not like we're going to run out of RAM anytime soon.
No, I dont have a task killer, but the default android Task Manager (installed on my DHD as standard) has an exceptions list, so I make sure anything I dont want Android to kill is added to that. Belt and braces stop the girls seeing your kn*b until you want them to, as my Grandad used to say.
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Haveyou got Juice Defender installed?
Here's my tale...
I got my DHD last Saturday, having spent 2 years in the company of a reliable and juice-frugal TouchHD. What a shock the DHD was! I set it up to do the same things the THD did (push Exchange server, 4 other email accounts syncing every 10 minutes, FB, etc), and I found a full battery lasted 5 hours. After tweaking it to within an inch of its life, including making exchange only look for new mail every 30 mins, it was only marginally better.
I called HTC UK support on Thursday and described the issues. I had until this Saturday (yesterday) to decide if I was keeping the phone, and despite loving its features, design, etc, I just could not live with a battery which failed to last a full day without being tethered to a charger.
The chap I spoke to at HTC checked the incident logs and NO-ONE HAS REPORTED CRAP BATTERY LIFE OFFICIALLY TO HTC!!! I found that amazing, but I guess most folks would rather ***** on here about it than tell someone who really needs to hear it. ;-) Anyway, he systematically went through everything I needed to do with the phone so that he understood what kind of user I was, and then as an afterthought said, "I have a great little app on my phone which manages the services I'm not using and switches them off", so I asked him to tell me more... "Well, I'm not really supposed to push non-HTC apps", he said, "but if you squeeze and orange, you get...?" and then "...and in a football team you have strikers, midfielders, and ....?"
Juice Defender, says I. Yep, he says.
So, here I am, 3 days later, and this app has revolutionised the phone for me. I still have push email on, but juice defender just turns on 3G for 1 minute every 15 minutes and runs all the updates (5 mail accounts, FB update, exchange sync, etc). I put JD on a fully charged phone at 1pm on thursday, never charged it again, and went to bed with over 40% juice left. Right now, I've been up since 8amwhen the phone was unplugged, and its nearly 11am now, and I've been on ebay for 20 mins, played a pool game for 20 mins, checked my emails 3 times, and installed 2 apps via AppBrain, and I still have 87% battery. Without JD in, I'm convinced that would be down to about 25%.
Works like a dream for me, and it doesnt feel as though I'm sacrificing anything to achieve this great battery life. If I want to use the internet browser it just overrides JD, until I close the browser. Perfect!
Worth a try for anyone struggling with battery, and it certainly works for me. It also has a little widget which displays how "big" your battery is. Mine now thinks its 1.83 times the size of the battery I really have (which equates to having a battery of about 2250mAh!!!).
RTR
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Thanx for reply, But I don`t now how setup the JD, at the moment I`m using task killer, but if I install JD I still need the task killer or not????(sorry for my English)
No, you don't 'need' the task killer as 2.2 manages background processes automatically. All JD does is shut down high drain services when you have your screen locked, rather than let them eat your battery away. Give it a go. You can easily install it if you find it does nothing for you.
Good luck
RTR
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No, you don't 'need' the task killer as 2.2 manages background processes automatically. All JD does is shut down high drain services when you have your screen locked, rather than let them eat your battery away. Give it a go. You can easily install it if you find it does nothing for you.
Good luck
RTR
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Thanx, much apreciate!!!!!
Im allsaw thinking about these ebay batterys!
There are 1500 and 1600!
Any one who have tried them?
mugen make the best batteries, ive been buying them for all my devices for years
http://www.mugenpowerbatteries.com/?gclid=CP30lrO7tKYCFYUe4Qoden-FHA
I am using Yoobao 1200mah battery, as good as original...I think we all just have to accept that big screen & slim phones won't have a good battery life. Just get a spare battery & a portable charger, and you will be set for a day.
I have tried JD Ultimate last version and it sucks my battery juice. I had to get rid off of it. Looks like some changes were done since the previous version. Previous version worked well for me.
I have a 1600 and it works great for me, on 4 bucks.
http://cgi.ebay.com/1600mAh-Standar...597794?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item3f04ed4362
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Im allsaw thinking about these ebay batterys!
There are 1500 and 1600!
Any one who have tried them?
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I have a 1600 and it works great for me, on 4 bucks.
http://cgi.ebay.com/1600mAh-Standard...item3f04ed4362
would like to know something about this aswell