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Hey guys,
Just curious what your thoughts were on changing the ROM from the original one on the phone to Epic, (whatever the newest one is I think it's 2.5 somebody correct me if it isn't). So I guess if you've done this what are the most noticable changes and is it worth the time it takes to do this.
-Jim
I'm really enjoying the epic 2.5 rom. I liked the phone stock but I found it to hang up quite a bit, blur seemed a little power hungry, and there were some apps installed that I did NOT want that constantly bugged me (city ID!). I switched to epic and my phone seems much much more responsive and my batter life seems mildly improved, by about roughly 10%. I'll more than likely continue to use epic until the bootloader gets cracked and we get something like cyanogen on the D2
I also use epic 2.5 and it sometimes randomly reboots, but otherwise its amazing. Battery life is great!
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what's your battery life like? because that's my main problem with my d2 since i text quite frequently and that seems to drain the battery like no other.
so you guys say go for it? also how do you back your contacts up when you change the roms?
hockeyhead019 said:
Hey guys,
Just curious what your thoughts were on changing the ROM from the original one on the phone to Epic, (whatever the newest one is I think it's 2.5 somebody correct me if it isn't). So I guess if you've done this what are the most noticable changes and is it worth the time it takes to do this.
-Jim
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If you are looking for a rom with little to no Blur left, try installing Motoboy's R2D2 SuperClean. It doesn't have all the Star Wars stuff and you are left with a solid system. I experienced a few bugs that were show stoppers on Epic 2.5. Those being the slide to unlock reboots, and the calendar not allowing me to add events. Matt has posted a fix for the calendar, but as of yet nothing stops the unlock reboots. Personally I find both of the roms to be better than what was shipped with the device. Ultimately which rom to flash should be your decision not someone else's.
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zibrah3ed said:
If you are looking for a rom with little to no Blur left, try installing Motoboy's R2D2 SuperClean. It doesn't have all the Star Wars stuff and you are left with a solid system.
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Can you post a link for Motoboy's R2D2 SuperClean?
wecramer said:
Can you post a link for Motoboy's R2D2 SuperClean?
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Read the instructions carefully, then read them again. This is a slightly tougher install than Epic.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=796908
Well I'm a new Droid 2 user. I had the original D1 and just got the D2 about a week ago. Epic was the first rom I downloaded and I like it a lot it reminds me of my D1 roms I had installed. It's pretty fast and hardly lags. I had a few problems at first. My phone rebooted randomly about twice and I'm not sure if this was a problem for everyone or if I just had a corrupt file installed, but whenever I would use titanium backup my messaging app stopped working. It really pissed me off because my messages still worked, but I couldn't see them. It kept force closing, but eventually it started to work. I'm enjoying this rom so far.
EDIT: I'm having the lock reboot problem now, it has happened maybe four or 5 times and it has been getting annoying lol. I haven't really looked for a fix, but I will be soon.
The lock screen reboots are a known bug in Epic 2.5 but I'm back with epic after tweaking R2D2 too much and I haven't had a problem after installing lock screen on/off widget and setting it off.
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What do u mean by the lock screen reboots? Just out of curiousity? I haven't had any reboots but I don't use a lock when my screen shuts off... is that what ur refering to or just the regular slide lock?
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Slide to unlock from screen off. If lockscreen is disabled it doesn't do the reboots.
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What do u mean by the lock screen reboots? Just out of curiousity? I haven't had any reboots but I don't use a lock when my screen shuts off... is that what ur refering to or just the regular slide lock?
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Yeah I've heard that people without a slide-to-unlock feature are fine, but people like me that HAVE to have a lockscreen, are expeirencing problems. It has happened to me a couple times already
@Herromoto
Maybe you could disable the slide lock screen and put a pattern lock on. I don't know if the widget will disable the pattern or the pattern will make a reboot but it's worth a shot.
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newk8600 said:
@Herromoto
Maybe you could disable the slide lock screen and put a pattern lock on. I don't know if the widget will disable the pattern or the pattern will make a reboot but it's worth a shot.
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Yeah I heard that's a solution people use, but I am too hard headed to do that lol, I like the old school lock screen too much
Let's see some things you like and dislike about the froyo beta.
Off the top of my head...
I like how when you make a phone call and pres home, if you drag down the noti-bar, there's buttons for flash, speaker, mute and end call. I found that as a nice little extra.
I like the new 3g icon
I like the look of the UI better overall
Better App icons
The settings menu is full of a LOT more eye candy
The added lockscreen security options
The newbuilt in task manager
The fact you can finally put vibrate on through the noti-bar
The better "hold power for a couple seconds" menu
And last, but not least, Flash 10.1
I don't like how you can't auto organize apps
The phone is notably sluggier, BUT Its still friggin fast. I blame this mostly on the fact I don't have setcpu to OC to 1.2ghz again and I don't think the kernal can anyways
Websites still take me to mobile! Its annoying! My hero had an option for "allow mobile view" which I always had off and it always sent me to the desktop page. I was hoping for this option in FroYo, but its not in the beta. Hopefully its included in DK05 or whatever, but I doubt it.
Also, the browser "checkers" but its not a big deal. It still renders **** wayyyy faster than my hero
Let's hear some of your pros and cons about the froyo beta.
Keep in mind that I understand its a beta and don't take my negatives to heart and get all defensive.
Just saw alittle bug in setcpu and linpack. When you rotate the phone, it cancels out anything you did in the last orientation. This is annoying because the 270 degree rotation is on by default and idk how to take it off. I was laying down and the way I hold the phone to read it makes it autorotate
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+1 on all your pros.
The biggest con for me is no widget for the music player. I use it all of the time.
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Enjoying it myself. After getting gps working its actually a great rom. I get the occasional fc but its no biggie. I use poweramp and it has its own homescreen widget. All in all for a beta build its actually pretty good.
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I don't think the battery life is as good but that should be fixed once we have the kernel code for froyo. I was so used to the overclock/undervolt kernels and the battery was amazing.
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I am getting 12 hrs out of my battery on froyo. Decent enough to get through the day.
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All of the froyo roms seem sluggish to me. I see it mostly on the lock screen. It takes the phone a few seconds to wake up before I can unlock the screen. But I agree on all the OP's pros. I just can't deal with the sluggishness so back to Syndicate ROM until we get a overclocked kernel
I have never had an issue with lockscreen lag that everyone talks about
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Why should we update? Did the phone get faster in terms of lock screen, the finger print scanner get better? ...etc Post it here!
fRenZy-_- said:
Why should we update? Did the phone get faster in terms of lock screen, the finger print scanner get better? ...etc Post it here!
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because motorola told you to.
much better SQ out of headphone jack
justdrew said:
much better SQ out of headphone jack
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is there anymore lag on the lockscreen, like you dont have to slide twice?
****ing awesome battery life!
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is there anymore lag on the lockscreen, like you dont have to slide twice?
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out of 10 times I only had to slid my finger twice once. The finger print reader scans much better now also. Battery life has gone up. Screen brightness has increased along with sharpness of pics. The pics I've transfered to my phone I took with my dslr looked washed out before. Now they look exactly like they should. Touch screen is more responsive now I think its a good and bad thing. I get more accidental selects now due to it.
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out of 10 times I only had to slid my finger twice once. The finger print reader scans much better now also. Battery life has gone up. Screen brightness has increased along with sharpness of pics. The pics I've transfered to my phone I took with my dslr looked washed out before. Now they look exactly like they should. Touch screen is more responsive now I think its a good and bad thing. I get more accidental selects now due to it.
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Are you over exaggeraring? Be honest. Because if this is the case, I may be willing to give up root for it.
Your telling me that the camera and screen quality is better? Are you certain that the lock screen slider is much more responsive?
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Sorry one more thing. Do you think the new added responsiveness only applies to blur? Im using launcher pro, do you think that would become more responsive? Thanks
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aszrael1266 said:
out of 10 times I only had to slid my finger twice once. The finger print reader scans much better now also. Battery life has gone up. Screen brightness has increased along with sharpness of pics. The pics I've transfered to my phone I took with my dslr looked washed out before. Now they look exactly like they should. Touch screen is more responsive now I think its a good and bad thing. I get more accidental selects now due to it.
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I did initially think the camera was crap until I viewed its pictures on my PC, so I know what you're talking about. But... would software really be able to save the natural crappiness of AMOLED PenTile?
Sofware could fix this and the atrix is not AMOLED just pentile
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Is the update still only available to beta testers?
From all the posts it makes it seem it is available for anyone though a check for updates does nothing for me.
Personally, I would caution everyone before updating. There are numerous issues behind the scenes that need to be worked out. Can not divulge details, but I would personally wait until it has been tested further.
seh6183 said:
Are you over exaggeraring? Be honest. Because if this is the case, I may be willing to give up root for it.
Your telling me that the camera and screen quality is better? Are you certain that the lock screen slider is much more responsive?
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Sorry one more thing. Do you think the new added responsiveness only applies to blur? Im using launcher pro, do you think that would become more responsive? Thanks
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I've never used blur on my phone. The first app I put on it as soon as it was opened was luncher pro so I can't say how blur acts now. Its not the camera that has improved its the display of the phone. I do believe it can be done by software by adjusting the phones display (I.E. changing gama and other little behind the scenes things to make colors stand out more)
From what I know the update should be pushed out today. It does take some time and I thought my phone froze up while updating but it just takes time after the phones its first reboot so be patient. As far as brightness goes having it turned down as low as it can get its still brighter then it was before at 20-30%. I use to keep the phone at about 15-20% and now with it turned down as much as I can get it, it is still brighter then before.
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I've never used blur on my phone. The first app I put on it as soon as it was opened was luncher pro so I can't say how blur acts now. Its not the camera that has improved its the display of the phone. I do believe it can be done by software by adjusting the phones display (I.E. changing gama and other little behind the scenes things to make colors stand out more)
From what I know the update should be pushed out today. It does take some time and I thought my phone froze up while updating but it just takes time after the phones its first reboot so be patient. As far as brightness goes having it turned down as low as it can get its still brighter then it was before at 20-30%. I use to keep the phone at about 15-20% and now with it turned down as much as I can get it, it is still brighter then before.
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Is there a time frame I should be worried about here? Im rooted, have the webtop hack, and the adeo rom. Do I need to put all this back to stock before a certain time or ill miss out on the update?
The only thing I would be sacrificing is root. I am new to android, in your guys experience, how long does it take for updates to get rooted after they are released. I just don't think I want to give up root yet because I enjoy freezing all this CRAP that moto put on the phone.
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So the update will be "pushed" to the phones automatically if not rooted? Our does it need to be downloaded from MOTO...?
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If I do the update I my phone wont reset right? Ill keep all my apps and settings?
Never live in the past but always learn from it.
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Is there a time frame I should be worried about here? Im rooted, have the webtop hack, and the adeo rom. Do I need to put all this back to stock before a certain time or ill miss out on the update?
The only thing I would be sacrificing is root. I am new to android, in your guys experience, how long does it take for updates to get rooted after they are released. I just don't think I want to give up root yet because I enjoy freezing all this CRAP that moto put on the phone.
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If you're not up to date and you do a system update check, if there is any new updates, it should finded it. But as far as I know, the updates will be there if your phone is not up to date...
Rooting an update depends on the dev community backing the phone has, i.e. Droid X, which I had, updates were basically rooted within a day or so, look at the DX with the just released GB, it has a method for rooting already... and this phone doesn't look like it has as much dev backing, so it can take a while..
If you've done mods to your phone, and you try to update and it fails, it's most likey the mods are the ones stoping the updates, as it does checks on certain system files that need to match..
The update sounds great but I think ill wait for everyone to experiment with it first, then when the root comes out ill make the jump. Sounds like a lot of things that bothered me are fixed though. Too bad I can't grab it yet
I honestly probably would, im just scared as hell to try and remove these Adeo nods. The process looks involved. And I think I even read something that said wifi could break? Scary stuff
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I've done the update, retaining my root, and can confirm the phone is fast as hell. Use these guides:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=991072
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=12540398#post12540398
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I don't know how many here use swype, but I do, and i have seen a much better word recognition after the update. And i have kept root.
I think 4.1.26 is better. can easy be rooted and faster,I think.
So I installed it yesterday (and thanks to all those who helped).
I think the new ROM is FANTASTIC. Everything works for me, its faster than before and I have no lags. Im using Launcher Pro because the new Blur doesn't support scrolling widgets.
Battery is definitely better (turned on at 6am and had 15% at 6pn which us amazing for me).
Camera has been improved. Pictures look sharper and the colors no longer look weird. I owned an sgs2 and to me the pictures are just as good (and definitely better than the Sensation I owned for a bit). Its also much faster (put it in sport mode and virtually immediate).
Fingerprint reader works. Properly. Period.
Sound on speaker is excellent. Its still the best device on the market.
Sound on earpiece might be a little quieter. I am not certain on this but its something I noticed on my first call.
Gps lock is very quick. It was before too.
Software. Wow what a MASSIVE improvement. Email software is finally useable readable and possibly as good as Sense. Widgets are also better, like weather. Photo software and gallery better. MUSIC is a different application totally. I think I preferred the old one or just need to get used to it. Dialer is improved. Video playback is still great and again an area where this device excels over others I have owned. Animations also very cool. Top bar and notifications simply better than before. Entire color scheme is improved.
Stock keyboard is better but I still make a lot of mistakes when typing. HTC still make the best Android keyboard IMHO and I wish I could port the Sensation keyboard.
Overall its just more elegant and mire pleasurable ti use. For the first time I feel like its a device to show off. I really believe its the best device out there. Had Moto started out with this ROM it would have been considered a device as good as the HD2 in its day.
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I agree that Gingerbread by far is better than Froyo. My Atrix looks and runs so much better.
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I agree that Gingerbread by far is better than Froyo. My Atrix looks and runs so much better.
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After one day on gingerbread, I'd have to say the keyboard's the biggest improvement for me. An @ key without having to press alt first? Yes! Long press keys for numbers? Yes!
I agree. It's a fantastic upgrade and the new skin is slick....my only complaint is that homescreen scrolling isn't as fast as I expected. The forest LWP is a little slow, and pinch to zoom on stock camera gallery isn't as good as my previous phone or 3rd party market apps
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its is an amazing difference
before making the plunge I wud like to know from u guys about the screen gradient issues
is it solved??
like skin tones appeared really odd and washed out
I thot it was a software issue as the screen grabs also showed them on my PC
that was a big gripe for me but for the otherwise near perfect phone
and ya camera quality was also really poor
Are you talking about kenns?
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dunno whom u are asking but am still on froyo
wud love to hear that screen issues are solved
leaving aside the pentile issue as SGS also has pentile but looked better
Battery life is the biggest improvement forvmr
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I freakin love the new ROM. Thanks KP!
They have made a smart move by selecting a color scheme that greatly reduces the effect of the inherent technical limitations of a Pentile LCD! Its better than Froyo but I guess only because of the color scheme they have decided to go with!
Pat123 said:
They have made a smart move by selecting a color scheme that greatly reduces the effect of the inherent technical limitations of a Pentile LCD! Its better than Froyo but I guess only because of the color scheme they have decided to go with!
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Even if the color scheme didnt change its 10 times better. Im tired of the complaints about the phone, go get a different one and/or dont complain about this one. We dont care to hear it.
Loving the new rom so far. I do think the cardock app got worse (looks better, but fewer custom buttons). I love how you can uninstall apps using a long press from the app drawer.
I'm also looking forward to trying the ignore call, respond with text option.
Last thing, wish the default music app worked with Google Music Beta... installed the Google one instead.
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Overall, this seems to be working pretty fantastically for me except for a few things.
- Contact List can get REALLY slow sometimes. (15 seconds to load up a contact's information!)
- Unlocking (the screen, not the phone) can get slow, as well as Facebook and a few other apps. Haven't fully tested yet.
Is this happening to anyone else?
So far, i'm loving the new blur, everything is working fine for me.but i hope this is not the final blur version, because i was watching a demo of blur for droid3 on youtube it looks a little bit better then this. The swipe between screens was different and the quick contact widget was different and more useful.
are you sure about the battery life part.. i got a bad battery life thats the reason why i flashed it back to froyo 2.2.2 ( 1.83 sbf ) .. if you are also using kenneth's beta release >> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1159385
and if u also talking abotu kenneth's beta one. fingerprint reader doesn't work for me
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are you sure about the battery life part.. i got a bad battery life thats the reason why i flashed it back to froyo 2.2.2 ( 1.83 sbf ) .. if you are also using kenneth's beta release >> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1159385
and if u also talking abotu kenneth's beta one. fingerprint reader doesn't work for me
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I'm pretty sure is not talking about the ken release.
ohh so its all about the color scheme that's chosen now!!
neways I will wait till the official release
bit scared by the hard brick numbers
ayaskant12 said:
ohh so its all about the color scheme that's chosen now!!
neways I will wait till the official release
bit scared by the hard brick numbers
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You only hard brick if you try to do the OTA. If you use kennethpenn's method using CWM with an unlocked bootloader you'll have no problem.
Are any of the devs working on this? I haven't had mine working since stock 1.6!
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WB said it's working with his power widget in all his ROMs.check his thread.http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1192988
Omar
Yeah wolfbreak said that long back. But for the past few versions the power widget is missing from his rom. The last time I have seen it, it was not working properly. Besides, now I have tested with widgetsoid, it aint working. I am not in need of it. But I like the option to be open. I dont like the fact that my phone has a sensor and its kinda disabled.
That'd retarded why did he remove it. It was the only way to change brightness.... Tsk tsk, the strive for perfection drives us users nuts.
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Try Widgetsoid
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The problem isn't enabling it, you can do that with plenty of widgets and programs. The problem is that it doesn't work.
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The problem isn't enabling it, you can do that with plenty of widgets and programs. The problem is that it doesn't work.
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It does. It works on MIUI, it works on Wolf's rom if you enable it with spare parts.
Never mind
It is always enabled since 1.6. SE does auto-brightness differently, it works in conjunction with the brightness slider. To check, try putting the brightness slider in the middle and try shining a flashlight on the sensor, you'll notice the screen go to full brightness.
try alzbac's galaxy rom, i'm using it and it works way better there than on Wolfbreak's rom
I'm currently using Wolfbreak's ROM, and have tried everything mentioned here without switching ROMs (I'm not a big fan of MIUI, and haven't had a chance to try alzbac's ROM) to no avail. It hasn't worked for me, even on stock firmware since 1.6. Am I alone in this?