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[Q] Good current android for beginner

Hi,
I wanted to have a look at android, but there are so many out there. Which ones are most current and are most complete?
Cheers!

I'm using darkstone HD2 froyo v2.1...everything is working except the hotspots feature...they are all pretty stable...check out Gamesquare.co
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You'll have to try them and eventually decide for yourself. That's far better than going by someone else's recommendation.
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Thanks!
Yeah, my question (or my intention, rather) was on which are more stable

they are all different for different people. shubcraft 1.5 works for me. may not work for you.

yeah you have the ones with HTC sence, and ones with out,
im using Froyostone at the sec, working very well for me

Yup...I went for the first recommendation - without sense. Looks pretty good, but not for daily use yet
Thanks!

Try hyperdroid. I use it as my daily and have no problems.
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Just go for the most recently dated build and work from there.

I can also suggest Bangsters 1.2a as it's Vanilla 2.2 and is pretty responsive and relatively bug free. But like said the easiest if no the most convenient way is to try them all, no build is perfect and each has it's own defects but from what I have seen it can range from user to user.

polo735 said:
Just go for the most recently dated build and work from there.
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Yup I would agree here. Even tho my DarkStone build is not one of the newer builds, it runs great, for me at least. I've tried a number of the other builds, but haven't found a real reason for changing from what I've got going. Updating the kernel on a regular basis keeps this build going strong.

Another conditional might be which ones work with HTC Sync. This is an absolute requirement for me personally. I've only tested a few Android builds, but so far only MattC's build works with Sync for me.

Yes I'm a total noob when it comes to this.... And I really don't want to brick my phone, which is the most fully featered 2.2 Version without sense for the HD2. And can somebody please send my an idots guide. PLease PM me deatils. I mean I've done WinMo Phones but nothing like this. Thanks for the Help.

[Q] htc hd2 android vs htc desire

I am deciding to buy a phone: between hd2 and desire. I would prefer hd2 as it can have multi-os. I am a developer and it's a plus to have a phone support multi os so that i can develop and test on these os without having to buy multiple phones... i am planning to use android as my main os but i am wondering if it worth it..
I have been reading a lot of threads of android roms on hd2 and posting quite some questions lately about flash 10.1 support, battery etc..
the more i read about the android roms on hd2, i keep finding more and more issues(with some constantly repeating):
like robot voice where some people say it's fixed in one thread and in another more recent thread someone else says he still has the issue (and has to enable loudspeaker and turn it off or some say the phone freezes when they get robot voice and have to reboot); that's pretty annoying imo..
there's also low volume issue that i always see in every rom thread i read..
then there is vibration problem or phone not ringing, missed calls issues, battery drain issue, etc... (the list is quite big )
my question: do these issues exist in htc desire sock rom or desire's custom roms (i am a fan of customisation and will probably be flashing custom rom on desire if i buy a desire instead of an hd2)?
My primary concerns are
calls, sms (I will be using it for my work; so missing a call or having bad call quality or missing sms are not acceptable)
camera (should react quick a bug-free to take photos with default winmo quality)
music player (just need decent sound)
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is there an android rom having all these 4 functionalities stable and bug-free (haven't found any yet.. been doing a lot of research and reading a lot of android rom thread)...
sorry for the long post and thx for reading it... waiting for your responses... depending on my needs. Hopefully, i will get the necessary advice to make my final decision. Thanking you in advance

You better post you question in the Desire HD thread.
Most of HD2 owner doesn't own a DHD.
If I where you... I will buy the DHD if you want only android (year... I know a lot will disagree with what I write...)

i'd pick hd2 especially if you're a developer. most of issues are eliminated by new builds and fixes. i have everything working on my hd2 and i can't complain on anything.

I'm not sure it's good to test apps on a phone which doesn't run a native os.
Maybe the emulator from an SDK will be a better "test platform".
But I'm not a dev so take my answer just "as it".

emjakmaciej said:
i'd pick hd2 especially if you're a developer. most of issues are eliminated by new builds and fixes. i have everything working on my hd2 and i can't complain on anything.
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thx for ur replies.
@emjakmaciej :
you don't have any low volume call or robot voice issues? or no vibration/ringtone problem? what rom are u using?
yup i know hd2 is a developer's dream but i wanna be sure i can still be reliable as a phone! (make/receive calls properly, send sms with all notifications working well)

As far as I know, I have few issues with my build.
I can't say less than a real DHD as I don't own one.
Latest build (from some chef) are very good actually. And it improves days after days.
My wife as a stock HD2 and sometime it freeze also.

yeahman45 said:
thx for ur replies.
@emjakmaciej :
you don't have any low volume call or robot voice issues? or no vibration/ringtone problem? what rom are u using?
yup i know hd2 is a developer's dream but i wanna be sure i can still be reliable as a phone! (make/receive calls properly, send sms with all notifications working well)
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well, actually i have stock rom that came from my providers shop. i didn't have any problems with it so i didn't change it. i'm using android MDJ FroYo HD v. 4.6 with hastarin's 8.6 kernel and everything works great. i only had an issue with mms using other builds but it works now.

emjakmaciej said:
well, actually i have stock rom that came from my providers shop. i didn't have any problems with it so i didn't change it. i'm using android MDJ FroYo HD v. 4.6 with hastarin's 8.6 kernel and everything works great. i only had an issue with mms using other builds but it works now.
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sorry to insist but how would you evaluate the call quality? never had problem with missing calls? you are using what phone model? the tmous version or the Euro version?

the hd2 is the phone
i have mdj cyanogenmod and everithing works . the call volume is loud, mms pictures are good, sms is fast, and the big screen is awesome.

emjakmaciej said:
well, actually i have stock rom that came from my providers shop. i didn't have any problems with it so i didn't change it. i'm using android MDJ FroYo HD v. 4.6 with hastarin's 8.6 kernel and everything works great. i only had an issue with mms using other builds but it works now.
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I have HD2 and using smilar ROM, and everything works for me as well...

enjoyable with hd2. desire cannot as

i think i will go for the hd2 finally.... hope the android rom will be stable on my phone... wanna try wp7 too thx for ur replies... keep on the rom suggestions which has stable call quality and is also enjoyable.. so that i can try one of these when i get my phone
edit: one more question: how is support for video formats as compared to desire? same i would suspect right?

recording or playing them?

Richy99 said:
recording or playing them?
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i read recording 720p in android atm is not possible. I was referring to 720p playback

yeahman45 said:
i read recording 720p in android atm is not possible. I was referring to 720p playback
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i ended up buying the htc desire lol.. mainly because HD2 seems too big imo although i must agree this is a damn good phone but finally i realised that i really want android and not much interested with windows mobile.. so i think a native android phone is better.. thx again for all your help and advices!

htc hd2 is much much better!
U can choose between three different softwares and many many custom-roms

One thing you need to realize it that most people only post in a rom thread because they are having problems. So really most of the feedback you will get in a rom thread is negative but this does not include all of the thousands of people who have no problems at all usually when people have problems it is because they did something wrong and isn't actually a Rom issue Android works %99 Perfect on HD2 you shoulda got one. You are missing out

[APP] Netflix for HD2

Since some people are being juvenile and aren't cooperating with others on posting the Netflix .APK file, here it is.
This has been tested on an HD2, NAND ROM variant HyperDroid CM7 "Gregarious Greyhound".
I cannot guarantee any other variants. Theoretically, if it's CM7 based, it will work.
This same file has worked on a Samsung Galaxy Tab, an HTC Incredible on CM7, and the HD2.
Many thanks to Chinle43 for the .apk file.

Works on BOYPPC-SHIFTPDA NANDv11clean, sweetah!

working great on NexusHD2-Gingerbread V2.7 NAND

Works NexusHD2-Gingerbread-2.7
This is the correct app, the other ones floating around do not work.

Any specific player on those roms? I have CMYLXGO's Desire hd rom on mine. It installs, everything comes up, works fine until you go to play a video. It loads to the player then crashes back to the main screen.
Wonder if it might be the kernel

worked beautifully for the 90 seconds i tried it on AmericanAndroid May 7th build. Pretty sure it would work non-stop I just wanted to reboot into SuperRam Froyo to try it in there too...going to it now

Installed on my atrix and my inspire running RCMixHD 6.1.0.1 with gingerbread. No luck on the atrix, getting the unsupported device error.
The interesting thing is that out almost works in the inspire. It plays audio but I get a white screen only.
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Works on m Galaxy S i9000!

Official Netflix app works!
Just downloaded the official app from the android market. It works perfectly on hd2 with android.

1.1.9 Blutopia doesn't work... program runs and connects, but the video wont play but that's an old version (2.2.1?) I'm overdue for an update anyway.

joshnchen said:
Just downloaded the official app from the android market. It works perfectly on hd2 with android.
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Yes, but which Android on HD2 are you using?
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just chiming in. it works perfectly on the unofficial SuperRam Gingerbread! I'm assuming it'll work fine on the Froyo variant as well. Thanks for this! Definitely a nice surprise after finishing my last final exams

works great on superram froyo 1.5 by darkstone.... "Its a great day for Androidia everybody"

It also works great on NexusHD2 Froyo v1.9G and NexusHD2 Gingerbread v2.7.....thanks a lot for sharing this, been wanting netflix on my HD2 for a while now.....I didn't know this was released in the market until now......thanks for sharing....just a little FYI, when I checked on my phone, the apk shared here showed up to be the same version that's on the market.....

Works great on my HD2 (HyperDroid-CM7-2.01), streaming "Rampage" via wifi as I write this.
No discernable lag. A/V Sync looks awesome. Overall, very very happy with this

Resets to main menu after trying to play a video on CoreDroid v1.6

Works on Hyperdroid GBX v12 also, couldn't find it in the market though. Tried a forced attach with titanium but still don't see it under "my apps".

stoke234 said:
Works on Hyperdroid GBX v12 also, couldn't find it in the market though. Tried a forced attach with titanium but still don't see it under "my apps".
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Same here. Works on GBX, not in market, not in my apps.
Loving it!
thanks given

hd2k10 said:
Resets to main menu after trying to play a video on CoreDroid v1.6
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Same here and I'm using the same type of ROM you are using except its an older version which is 1.4 I guess we should use the CM7 ROM or the Nexus one that some are talking about.

Was just at the T-Mobile store browsing and talking to the staff and told the manager and an employee I was running Netflix on Android. They didn't believe me but when I left the store they were both running Netflix on their G2s.

Recommended nand rom?

Hi, i'm now using rafdroid hd 4.0.2 at my eu-leo and want to cange rom.
Is there some suggestions for a new rom?
What do you use?
Thx xda for this forum
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DoctorGore said:
Sup dude, if you want suggestions you should give us an idea of what you're looking for first.
I'm currently using CM7 HyperDroid which suits me cos it's minimalistic, dark and fast. So if you like those things to, I definitely recommend it. Another good thing about this ROM is that you only need a 150mb CWM partition, which is good for us EU owners.
I've only tried one other ROM and that was UltimateDroid. It's another fast ROM (I'm pretty sure it's based off CM7) which has a lot of theme options. It's got a more stock feeling to it, but if you don't like the default green it's got red, blue etc.
I'd also suggest having a look at the MIUI ROMs too, I haven't tried one yet but they have some interesting features.
Hope this helps man.
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Thx,
i need a sens rom, and it must be stable. and fast is always good

I've had no luck with Sense ROMs so far. Not fast enough for the added eye candy. Been a long time CM user and finally tried MIUI yesterday morning. OMG! Within two hours I became a diehard MIUI fanboy. Been hammering it ever since and it's blowing me away. More functionality than CM, same level of zippy performance, but much better eye candy. It have yet to find one thing I don't like and it keeps amazing me as I stumble upon new feature after new feature. I don't think I can go back to any other ROM now.

DoctorGore said:
I'm currently using CM7 HyperDroid which suits me cos it's minimalistic, dark and fast. So if you like those things to, I definitely recommend it. Another good thing about this ROM is that you only need a 150mb CWM partition, which is good for us EU owners.
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MIUI needs a 120mb CWM so it's low profile like CM. Both good for EU owners. Unlike that damn 400mb for Sense.

ginger MIUI have no fm radio.

criszz said:
ginger MIUI have no fm radio.
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One of it's few lacking features... true. Always forget about that since I listen to mp3, podcasts, and internet radio. FM radio pretty much unnecessary here in the states with the other alternatives.

I'm also on miui but I installed launcher pro because I didn't like the iphone like launcher. you should try it. the roms are very smooth and fast. i'm using the ndt one and won't go back unless the gingersense roms are working without bugs.

sure but i think it won't work on gingerbread when none of the roms have included it.
and well, honeycomb has the highest build number but it's for tablets.... just use 2.3.4

rauschkugl said:
sure but i think it won't work on gingerbread when none of the roms have included it.
and well, honeycomb has the highest build number but it's for tablets.... just use 2.3.4
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+1 to both posts. Don't use the honeycomb version. The one in my sig is solid. No force closes yet and smooth. I run everything at once and no issues.

As mentioned above, hypderdroid cm7 is one i recommend as well, it is very fast. You will need cwm installed thought but its worth it. Here give it a try http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=769026

Best sense Rom is cmxylogo hands down. V2.
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SpoocyMan said:
Hi, i'm now using rafdroid hd 4.0.2 at my eu-leo and want to cange rom.
Is there some suggestions for a new rom?
What do you use?
Thx xda for this forum
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you can try Nexus hd2 its very good to

Thx guys, tryed difrent roms, but i'm back to raf's dhd rom...love it <3
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Best ROM for Wildfire?

So, I have a Wildfire (not the wildfire S).
Does anyone have any guides on how to root it? Also, what's the best rom and radio for it?
Thank you

here you can find everything you need, cm7 is the best imo

darkstep said:
here you can find everything you need, cm7 is the best imo
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I here that doesn't have sense? What does it use?
What's the best one with sense?
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its aosp or vanilla android i dont us sense roms so cant tell you whats the best

I've used just about every rom going and each time I end up back with cm7, it just seems right to me, HTC sense to me now is just bloated with stuff you don't really need.
Edit: oh btw here's a list of guides, roms etc......
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1029318
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SmokingDesire said:
I here that doesn't have sense? What does it use?
What's the best one with sense?
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I'm currently using my stock froyo ROM with sense, and using the nfinitymc4 kernel(which means I can overclock, this is the kernel you need if you are using a sense based ROM), I prefer this to CM, as I believe its easier to use, looks better and is as smooth performance as Cyanogen.
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I'm also using just a stock 2.2 with sense. i tried a few others but with every installation the phone seemed to get slower and slower. I did it all right but meh... anyway mines just a stock 2.2, but rooted and i reckon it runs great (considering the hardware limitations that is....)

Ah. Well he won't be using any major apps
Hell be using WiFi at home and that's it aswell as other basic phone features (call, todo list/calendar) and maybe sms.
I just wanted it so he could push some more juice out the battery fully charged.
I'll stick to stock. Any modifications in order to improve performance on stock roms?
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I am the developer of SkEye ( I can't post URLs yet. Search on Android Market by that name). The app works fine on 99% of the phones but not on HTC Wildfire! On Wildfire stock ROM, the app receives a SEGFAULT and closes silently. This shouldn't happen for a Java application, and from the logs it appears to be a bug in the OpenGL implementation in the stock ROM.
I don't have a Wildfire phone myself; but I get lots of user reports by email and Market comments.
Since we are talking about the best ROMs, can you try my app on your ROM and see if you manage to not crash the app?
Here's the exact sequence of steps to reproduce the bug:
Set the location on first run. Approx location will do.
Click Menu -> Indirect Mode
Click Add new alignment
Select any object. Doesn't matter which.
Click "Return" or press the back key.
Search for any object (Menu -> Search or the Search button)
If the app doesn't crash after this, please let me know your ROM. I will recommend it to my users.
Thanks!

Does your app depend on the usage of a GPU? The Wildfire and the Tattoo are among the few phones that doesn't have it, so that could be the problem.

arco68 said:
Does your app depend on the usage of a GPU? The Wildfire and the Tattoo are among the few phones that doesn't have it, so that could be the problem.
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It does require OpenGL, but doesn't strictly require a GPU. The interesting thing is that the app doesn't crash outright. It crashes only after the above steps are executed. I will start a separate thread in the developer section when I get access to it. For now, I would like to know if its a ROM specific issue. Particularly, does the Cyanogen ROM have this bug or not.

It crashed here also, on latest CyanogenMod 7 nightly. The "called unimplemented OpenGL ES API" errors in the log are fairly common though, and happens with almost all apps using OpenGL, like games etc. They still work fine though.

rempuzzle rom
To put in my two pennies worth, the REMPuzzle Rom is one of the best sense roms I've found:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=978197
I find Google Maps runs very slowly on CM7 (due to the rendering technique CM uses) but works like a charm in REMPuzzle.

can i install rempuzzle rom if i installed cm 7 177 gingerbread??
if its yes tell me how to
thanks in advance

padremo said:
To put in my two pennies worth, the REMPuzzle Rom is one of the best sense roms I've found:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=978197
I find Google Maps runs very slowly on CM7 (due to the rendering technique CM uses) but works like a charm in REMPuzzle.
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This isn't a issue of cyanogenmod, its because an older version (gmaps 5) is running on the sense roms, you can deinstall on cyanogen the new version of gmaps and install the old 5.0 and its running like on a sense rom. So don't blame cyanogenmod ( the best mod for me so far), no offence to you but most of the complains about cm7 are about users don't know how to handle cm7.

Nhs666 said:
This isn't a issue of cyanogenmod, its because an older version (gmaps 5) is running on the sense roms, you can deinstall on cyanogen the new version of gmaps and install the old 5.0 and its running like on a sense rom. So don't blame cyanogenmod ( the best mod for me so far), no offence to you but most of the complains about cm7 are about users don't know how to handle cm7.
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I'm not knocking CM - I've used it and know the workarounds. However, the OP asked for the best sense ROM so I gave my opinion.

well i have tried, CM7, remPuzzle and jokerdroid. for me jokerdroid is the best, its very simple too, just flash the thing and you are good to go. i really like the aero theme too.

Nhs666 said:
This isn't a issue of cyanogenmod, its because an older version (gmaps 5) is running on the sense roms, you can deinstall on cyanogen the new version of gmaps and install the old 5.0 and its running like on a sense rom. So don't blame cyanogenmod ( the best mod for me so far), no offence to you but most of the complains about cm7 are about users don't know how to handle cm7.
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I've got 5.9 running on rempuzzle rom. which version does cm7 have?

I hate threads like this, each rom has its good points and also bad points too.....
Its all about preference try the different roms till you find one that suits you, its taken me nearly 3 months to make my mind up and trust me I've tested every rom. I don't believe in an out of the box rom as the customization of android is just unbelievable, every single rom can be tailored to your own needs, tweaked for extra performance and should be too, else what's the point in this community?
I've only been using android for around 5 months to its full potential and everyday I'm learning more and more ways to make my phone my own and as unique as I can make it.
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Scratch0805 said:
I hate threads like this, each rom has its good points and also bad points too.....
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I agree, but it's always good to get opinions so you know where to start. When I first started out on custom ROMs replies like "try them all" just aren't helpful.