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The EVO gets 2.2 presumably with the SenseUI on August 3rd.. When this is released is there any chance that we will see this flavor of custom rom for our Hero devices?! Hopefully Darch and the other XDA experts wont let us go without.. We can ONLY HOPE!! Hint, Hint, Nudge, Nudge.. Surprised there isn't a leak already.. Or is there!?
There is, i am running full 2.2 100% working on my Evo, and HTC also posted the update.zip on their website, but Devs from the Evo have had sense working for awhile now, but it still hasn't been ported over because of the huge differences in frameworks
I really wish I knew what people liked about SenseUI. It just seems so bulky and slow to me.
darchstar told me many times tonight there will be no 2.2 sense port for the hero. (from the evo) the arch is different
Nfinitefx45 will be working on porting 2.2 sense here soon
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Thanks for the info!
I flipped through the EVO dev forum (reluctantly) and saw that they are already up and running on the latest froyo build which is awesome! I'm glad to see that all hope is not lost and that there will be some development for 2.2 with sense. To answer Zardos66 I personally like the facebook contact linking and the look of the UI. It has nothing to do with performance and everything to do with functionality and usefulness. The SenseUI is a bit clunky but I haven't found a happy medium with any of the roms that don't have the SenseUI. Just something I'd like to see and If it can be done I trust that the XDA Pros will knock it out of the park.. I'm very excited to see what can be made of this!! XDA FTW!
Zardos66 said:
I really wish I knew what people liked about SenseUI. It just seems so bulky and slow to me.
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I thinks it mainly the widgets. other then that idk.
Im running senses, i've tried an aosp rom, it just didn't feel right, i guess i got used to sense.
But will install cm6 when darch gets into the RCs.
eltrutgnik said:
I thinks it mainly the widgets. other then that idk.
Im running senses, i've tried an aosp rom, it just didn't feel right, i guess i got used to sense.
But will install cm6 when darch gets into the RCs.
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Even with OC, Sense still lags. It's is easy to mimic with less ram taken up.
Launcher pro
2x4 people widget - free
Messaging Widgets - free
Weather and toggle widgets - $1.99
feels good man.
Supposedly we can't port the EVO 2.2 release over to the Hero because the EVO build is designed for a much faster processor. Our Hero couldn't handle such a port without A LOT of tweaking....in other words, almost impossible.
Whenever the HTC Legend gets their 2.2 release, that is probably the build that the devs here will try to port over for us. A couple people have already committed to doing this.
eltrutgnik said:
I thinks it mainly the widgets. other then that idk.
Im running senses, i've tried an aosp rom, it just didn't feel right, i guess i got used to sense.
But will install cm6 when darch gets into the RCs.
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Darch released RC0 a few builds ago, i am currently running Not my dog too build and all is pretty well. Camera app is still pretty much useless but Camera Magic is a quick fix. The gallery is pretty messed up with auto rotate and such, but aside from pictures it is a MAJOR improvement over eclair. My Hero runs like a champ!
does it change anything that the desire got a sense 2.2 today also?
http://goo.gl/fb/Z0kfj
I'm not familiar with the desire to know if it would work... hopefully it's closer to ours.
surrealbliss said:
does it change anything that the desire got a sense 2.2 today also?
http://goo.gl/fb/Z0kfj
I'm not familiar with the desire to know if it would work... hopefully it's closer to ours.
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no still built on the snap dragon processor and is HDPI (high res) this is why we are waitng on the legend , it is the cousin to the hero in terms of processor and the fact that it is our exact resolution MDPI (medium). the legend is supposed to be on froyo within the next two months.
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the legend is supposed to be on froyo within the next two months.
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If it is gonna be anything like eclair release, I'm not holding my breath till around christmas, which is when the next major version of Android is supposed to be released. I bet by that time Sprint drops all support for their 6 month old Evo like they did with out Heroes, too!
Sigh I want froyo with sense.
(Sprint: "What's the evo? Oh that ole thing )
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Sigh I want froyo with sense.
(Sprint: "What's the evo? Oh that ole thing )
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the bottom line is the hero should of got the 2.2 update. sprint isn't doing a good job of supporting their phones at all. i owned the evo for a week and while i liked the speed & size the pitfall was the battery life. none of the tweaks worked and you had to disable every feature of the phone.
The nexus one looks so good. Still. So much support for it. Being googles baby it will probably get gingerbread. Just saying almost a year old and still one of the best phones. ("Did I get ripped off?" I sometimes wonder)
i just heard droid users are getting froyo today. this is a bunch of bull**** and im pissed at htc. i should of kept my evo. talk about dropping the ball with the hero!
There will be no port from the Ego since there's wayy to much things to change its almost impossible, but our hope of 2.2 is from the legend!
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Jsos said:
There will be no port from the Ego since there's wayy to much things to change its almost impossible, but our hope of 2.2 is from the legend!
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i hope so because im not digging the aosp stuff. id like a sense port so i can get the htc goodies.
Hey all,
I must say, I took my HTC Incredible back to stock 2.1 then had OTA installed (from verizon). And I must say, What are these people thinking????. SkyRaider & CM are much better. They need to take some lesions from you guys. Battery Life sucks now.. I hope it is possible it go back to stock 2.1 and start over with rooting..
-Mark
It is possible. Check unrevokes thread.
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Unrevoked Root and Sucked-off
2.0.5 Baseband
SkyRaider 3.0 Vanilla
#1 King Bad F*cking **** Kernel OC to 1.13
I think Unrevoked are even are able to root stock 2. 2 now
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Mark0266 said:
Hey all,
I must say, I took my HTC Incredible back to stock 2.1 then had OTA installed (from verizon). And I must say, What are these people thinking????. SkyRaider & CM are much better. They need to take some lesions from you guys. Battery Life sucks now.. I hope it is possible it go back to stock 2.1 and start over with rooting..
-Mark
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So true. ALL these devs do a FAR FAR better job than the stock one does. It could be because that is how a corporate shop runs (err too far on the side caution) or it could be because there is a difference in doing something for money and doing it because you like it.
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So true. ALL these devs do a FAR FAR better job than the stock one does. It could be because that is how a corporate shop runs (err too far on the side caution) or it could be because there is a difference in doing something for money and doing it because you like it.
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Yes they do. And I think HTC or Motorola should contact them. But one of my favorite saying from a movie is "Human knowledge belongs to the world". At least most open source people aren't out to plant bugs. But sometimes you still have to be worried.
-Mark
This is just a testament to the fact that people are born with gifts and are hardly developed by being taught. Which is why I constantly express my gratitude to the developers we have working for themselves, yet (mostly) willing to share their creation for the betterment of others.
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I completely agree!!! Definitely sticking to staying ROOTED on ANY android device! The benefits are priceless.
It's horrible but true!
Our beloved N1 losed the biggest devs:
-Paulobrien left several months ago
-Evil shows up very rarely
-Micromod sold his N1 so no more updates
-Rodriguez ''disapeared'' since january
Only a few devs are still here but the ''big heads'' left
No more Desire or Desire HD to N1 ports?
Oh the sweet times when we used to have incredible roms every 2 days and we didn't know what to choose...
It is a sad and inevitable decline. But at least we have Cyanogenmod. If the N1 lost support for that, i'd probably get a new phone. We look pretty safe for a good while now though.
Makes me sad cause I still don't wanna leave the nexus one:-(. What else is worth it? The nexus s ROM support hasn't really exploded yet, so I dunno where else I'd go.
I don't know about you.. but I've never had the need to try anything else than CyanogenMod, so I can't really say I'll miss or worry about the other devs being gone.
Paulobrien,Evil and Micromod were the ones who ported Desire roms into N1, without them we are stuck to ''plain'' roms
Desire HD port need some works and I doubt someone will port Desire gingerbread to N1
Desire ROMs are in decline - because nobody is interested enough to finesse them, but GB ROMs are crawling from under every corner - because it's new and fun. Even though they're mostly beta-quality - because everyone is waiting for the official GB update.
When GB will be on Desire, and only then, you'll see if there is any development. Right now there's nothing to develop.
You have lot people waiting for a faster and more stable Desire HD rom
But as I said the only one to really work on it is Evil, other devs are just cooking MIUI and CM7 instead of porting something new
You forget one of the best dev's in the list, Enomther.
Enomther has always been rare
Perhaps he's waiting for official gingerbread release before doing his new rom,he's very carefull
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Enomther has always been rare
Perhaps he's waiting for official gingerbread release before doing his new rom,he's very carefull
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He announced his stepping away from rom developement in his thread for his rom. Whether it is temp or permanent remains to be seen, but he will be missed. He was definitely tops on my list.
vegetaleb said:
Enomther has always been rare
Perhaps he's waiting for official gingerbread release before doing his new rom,he's very carefull
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unfortunately http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11089520&postcount=8305
The question is where are they going? Nexus s?
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onesavior said:
The question is where are they going? Nexus s?
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Took the words out of my mouth. Did a new worthwhile phone come out this past month or something? I suspect (as someone else mentioned), most are just waiting for Google to finally release GB. I myself have been bouncing around MIUI, and GB ROMs. Now I'm back to stock with a blackbar theme and I'm pretty peachy. Long live the Nexus One!
There is a lull simply because 2.3 isn't out. Look how the dev section exploded with the OTA for froyo. Once 2.3 hits I'm sure it'll heat up again
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There is a lull simply because 2.3 isn't out. Look how the dev section exploded with the OTA for froyo. Once 2.3 hits I'm sure it'll heat up again
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Your post reminds me of that old saying "the calm before the storm" lol. And yes this is true, the mytouch 3G I switched from went pretty dead after being stuck on 1.6 forever and once an "official" release of 2.1 let out, devs trickled back in and it heated up again, I think once 2.3 officially drops for the N1 that it is gonna start a firey oven of optimized tastey roms.. Personally I think the devs are just bored of 2.2 and want to play with something new and 2.3 just isn't in a good enough standing right now for them to attempt to "optimize" it..
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vegetaleb said:
It's horrible but true!
Our beloved N1 losed the biggest devs:
-Paulobrien left several months ago
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Paulobrien said on modaco site: I still have my N1 and i'm still planning new updates. It was at Jan 31 2011, 19:45.
Sorry can't write direct link due newbie status.
And if you like a Devs rom be sure to donate. No one works for free
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MIUI (which is the most innovative Android ROM) and CM are still going strong for the Nexus, so no, development is not dead.
Sexy nexy still the best!!!!!!! It has everything what i need, like amoled cam flash GPS ...... i stay with my sexy nexy
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It's sad that's lots of devs are leaving the N1.
But be optimistic and patient everyone as we wait for the official OTA.
Right now I'm using cyanmod 6.1 and it's been great. I'm just glad we still have him around. I'm sure cyanogen ain't never gonna leave us.
I am evo guy and this epic stuff throws me off a bit. I need a stable rom that will have decent battery and I can theme for my wive she likes her phone too look good,and,she likes launcher pro. Any suggestions?
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For theming my opinion would be bonsai and frozen emotionless beast.
I use nebula rom because battery life is more important to me than themes.
jj22ee said:
I am evo guy and this epic stuff throws me off a bit. I need a stable rom that will have decent battery and I can theme for my wive she likes her phone too look good,and,she likes launcher pro. Any suggestions?
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Wait for at minimum 1 week from today to even consider a rom. We are getting official froyo on Monday. Literally ANYTHING built on top of official Froyo will be better than this leaked froyo business. I suggest updating her to official stock froyo when it is released, and then coming back in a month or so and checking out what the coolest kernel is that is available, since that affects battery life much more than slight rom adjustments.
I agree. If we really are getting froyo Monday then no.need to update to dk28. Just wait a little bit.
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Wait for at minimum 1 week from today to even consider a rom. We are getting official froyo on Monday. Literally ANYTHING built on top of official Froyo will be better than this leaked froyo business. I suggest updating her to official stock froyo when it is released, and then coming back in a month or so and checking out what the coolest kernel is that is available, since that affects battery life much more than slight rom adjustments.
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Sent from my Evo Killer!!!
Ok sweet thanks guys
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How do you know we are getting the official Froyo on Monday. Hasnt there been solid release dates before and flopped?
Sprint has never been behind the previous release dates. Sprint finally has a date for this update on their dealer's website.
I suggest midNIGHT.
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Pfft a month? I give it until this time Tomorrow to see most ROMs up to speed with EB13, and a week or two before we see some mature custom kernels.
(Based on us having the update tomorrow)
I suggest Epic Experience. Ive tried others and had problems with all of them. Epic Experience ran the smoothest for me and is fairly close to stock. The others seem to be more about 'pushing the envelope and that will usually produce more bugs.
I'll personally be trying ACS though as soon as they get a froyo rom.
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How do you know we are getting the official Froyo on Monday. Hasnt there been solid release dates before and flopped?
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I was just at the sprint store and they were bummed about having to open all the epic's to update them. They figured that this Froyo has sprint ID. So I would skip the ota if I were you.
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ViperROMs have been good to me.
The new anarchy launcher looks very nice, and never had any problems.
Samsung Epic ViperROM 4.0.4 Genocide kernel
I remember the days where people would port over awesome roms to the incredible, but not anymore...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1036706 - would be nice to have that...
We will get more newer gb sense roms when a working kernel is ready. It slowed when tbolt came out, but the inc 2 will not slow us, neither a just that much of an upgrade imo. When our kernel is ready, you will see many varieties of ports for the dinc.
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I saw a guy using a Thunderbolt... it rebooted on him twice in 10 minutes... second time to the startup screen
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We will get more newer gb sense roms when a working kernel is ready. It slowed when tbolt came out, but the inc 2 will not slow us, neither a just that much of an upgrade imo. When our kernel is ready, you will see many varieties of ports for the dinc.
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I hope you're right because I feel like the phone will be relevant, hardware wise, for a little while still...
/shrug. I have been using Cyanogenmod 7 Nightlies. Its Gingerbread. I'm at work so i cant see those images for that linked ROM... but what it says it has doesnt sound that great... also it makes 4g not work on your evo if you use it... so ... why even have an evo and be with sprint if you use that ROM.
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/shrug. I have been using Cyanogenmod 7 Nightlies. Its Gingerbread. I'm at work so i cant see those images for that linked ROM... but what it says it has doesnt sound that great... also it makes 4g not work on your evo if you use it... so ... why even have an evo and be with sprint if you use that ROM.
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Dude, your in the wrong forum. This is the droid incredible, not the evo.
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donnyp1 said:
Dude, your in the wrong forum. This is the droid incredible, not the evo.
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That rom that the op linked to is an evo rom, so him talking about an evo is perfectly reasonable.
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That rom that the op linked to is an evo rom, so him talking about an evo is perfectly reasonable.
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True, but title to this thread is completely in reference to the dinc, which doesnt support 4g in the first place
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localceleb said:
I remember the days where people would port over awesome roms to the incredible, but not anymore...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1036706 - would be nice to have that...
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we'll get more ports when we get a gingersense leak. That rom is so outdated haha virus new port based on the htc kingdom sounds like its going to be a huge success for the evo.
A bit of perspective
Although I can feel where you are coming from on the fading of interest I wanted to chime in here to relay my recent experience with the incredible and its devs. My wife and I both had eris phones and were both rooted and running custom roms. The phone unrooted is almost unbearably slow and painful. Rooted is much better but still the phone itself is just so antiquated. I pushed Verizon to up my upgrade date and recently got the Thunderbolt. My wife finally got fed up with the eris and her upgrade date was too far out to push up so I got her a used incredible locally for about $170. Now comes the part that blew me away. The guy I got it from had it stock and never rooted. I did the research and was, as i said blown away with the sheer simplicity of the rooting and clockwork recovery rom experience. Thats all aside from the beauty, speed, screen brightness, perfect size, and overall satisfaction of the phone. I truly almost prefer it over my thunderbolt. The rom factory may be slowing down but this phone is an amazing device overall and the devs that have put time into it are to be commended in the highest. I can only hope that cyanogen and the others make my thunderbolt as amazing of an experience.
cant wait for gingersense. running CM7 2.3.4 but miss sense.
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I disagree. Several awesome ROMS are out there and it seems like we get another new ROM every week or so. Admittedly, some are more awesome than others, but development is defintely still on-going. That's the beauty of this device - it was so far ahead of it's time.
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I don't understand how the HTC HD2 is getting gingersense ports and sensation sense 3.0 ports, the phone is a Windows mobile phone so I doubt any gingerbread kernels are released for that... I don't get how they have these ports but we can't?
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I don't understand how the HTC HD2 is getting gingersense ports and sensation sense 3.0 ports, the phone is a Windows mobile phone so I doubt any gingerbread kernels are released for that... I don't get how they have these ports but we can't?
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Windows is a non issue.. once you flash an android rom (w/ Linux kernel) the windows phone os doesnt matter as its just hardware at that point. Android rom uses the Linux kernel to communicate w/ hw.
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I have noticed things are slowing down too. I got a Thunderbold day 1, which I love, no looking back for me, but my wife still has a Dinc, and I am always looking to update, it is currently running Myns Warm Z, not much else right now.
I am not sure it is slowing down so much as people are finding that what they have the love. I personally still flash a few roms every now and then but I always tend to go back to one... because It has the most of what I love. I think that always happens. I use to see this when I was running windows mobile htc 8125, people said that everything was slowing down but I think it is more the fact that you have know tried most of the ROMs. When I first got this phone I went through and flashed as many roms as I could. a few of them I am not going to try again until they get a few more levels up since I was not satisfied but there were a few that I really liked and I have flashed them when they come out with a new one. BUT I do always go back to my main rom.
So after all that I dont know if it is slowing down since I see new roms out every once in a while. I think that I just dont have the interest to flash them as often since I can say, I have already tried that. I will wait 3 more version before flashing that again...
You may have noticed that I didnt use one rom name since I do not want to discourage any ROM developer. They all do an "Incredible" job here no pun intended. Keep up the GREAT work and happy flashing.
SoBBie
I hear what you're saying, but there is still a lot of great work going on. The release of skyraider 4.0 was huge, and there are still a ton of roms being actively supported. Between CM7, MIUI, LiquidMetal, the z roms, and the stock sense roms, you can get just about any look you want.
It seems though, that most new ROM work, including ports, are the same old bases reworked with a twist. CM7 is nice, but doesn't have Sense.. The desireZ ports are nice, but still 2.2.. as with Skyraider.
I'm sure not knocking any devs work.. I use them and donate, just wish we had some new work coming our way... especially GingerSense!
I still see lots of development for the Inc. I am definitely really glad I got rid of my Fascinate for it two months ago.
Just my $.02
LOL, I'll have my ROM up and running soon... coming out of alpha soon...