I have done a lot of testing receintly and have found a few things that may help people who are having issues getting android to work, eg not booting or robot voice. This is what I have come up with so far.
Getting android working properly seems to depend on two things. Both windows rom and radio.
I have found the following in testing.
Having the wrong radio will stop haret from booting. I installed the standard htc hd2 o2 stock rom which is ver 1.72. I then tried to boot using the default radio which was 2.7.51.22
When I booted android it got to the stage just before linux loads and hung at that point.
I then simply installed the radio 2.12 and it booted perfectly also there was no robot voice and worked very well.
I also tried a couple of tmous roms and it did not seem to be compatable. It would boot up and run ok but I got robot voice. I built a standard rom using standard hd2 stock rom 1.66 and cured the robot issue.
I then built a tmous rom to get the 576mb hack with the same settings as the 1.66 using the same radio and got the robot voice again.
If anybody knows how to fix this that would be great. I know there are 576mb enabled roms out there that are android compatable I would be interested to know how they work. Eg thinking of energy roms!
Hope this helps when you are trying to get android working. I am currently using 1.4 which is awsme and the work that has been carried out so far in such a short amount of time is staggering. Keep up the good work folkes!!!
I don't personally see how the Windows Rom would effect anything with the Android side of things. I used a stock T-Mobile US rom until a few days ago and nothing has changed since I flashed a different WinMo rom. The only logical thing that COULD effect Android performance is the radio.
Breakthecycle2 said:
I don't personally see how the Windows Rom would effect anything with the Android side of things. I used a stock T-Mobile US rom until a few days ago and nothing has changed since I flashed a different WinMo rom. The only logical thing that COULD effect Android performance is the radio.
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I was wondering about this as well. I have got Robot Voice from day one on every single build. I updated my Radio from 2.10 to 2.12 and still RbV. (I do get better battery life now though - go figure)
Anyway. I'm really confused as to what the ROM would have to do with it. As far as I know, the ROM is just some software windows uses to get everything non-radio working on your phone. Sense Haret completely shuts down Windows when it launches Android, how can the ROM have anything to do with it?
Someone please explain this!
I have seen pretty much every combination on both sides say it works, and then others that say it doesn't.
Something is amiss, and I wish I knew what it was.
YEah. I would like some more info on this as well.
I am just reporting what I heave lernt over the last couple of weeks, some not all tmous roms do seem to cause robot voice. As I said I built both a tomus rom and and 1.66 release rom with exactly the same settings and radio yet I got robot voice when using tmous and didn't when I used the 1.66 rom!
It is a very odd issue
Both were built using the same windows os 2189
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New here, dont think this has been brought up. Has anyone else had the problem where music played in android sounds like its been sped up? It has a high pitch and the song seems to be a couple seconds shorter than it should. Any ideas?
The same thing happens to me. Weither it is from my sd card or through pandora.
same thing here. it sounds like alvin and the chipmunks!
I'm not entirely sure but I think this is because of the same reason which makes the clock go faster than it should be.
This is because android is set to turbo mode, so that it runs faster and smoother for you guys, but i'm sure the devs will have something sorted out soon so that its at normal speed.
sorry if i'm wrong, but i think that's what the problem is
Raary101 said:
I'm not entirely sure but I think this is because of the same reason which makes the clock go faster than it should be.
This is because android is set to turbo mode, so that it runs faster and smoother for you guys, but i'm sure the devs will have something sorted out soon so that its at normal speed.
sorry if i'm wrong, but i think that's what the problem is
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WHEN this is the problem than guys who have this should read the right posts. You have to try the different Zimages,or in best way the latest. There are no problems anymore with pichtin tracks or turbo mode.
no problems with dan's v1 2.2 froyo build with music. I've always started up android manually via explorer instead of using one of those dual-boot solutions... maybe that'll help you guys?
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no problems with dan's v1 2.2 froyo build with music. I've always started up android manually via explorer instead of using one of those dual-boot solutions... maybe that'll help you guys?
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Which ROM and Radio are you using?
I am running the newest version of wm6.5 and radio version 2.10.50.26. im just too nervous to brick my phone by putting a new rom on it, should that help?
This is related to the robot noise in calls issue.
It is fixed by using a tmous 2.10 base winmo rom.
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GavTheStoner said:
This is related to the robot noise in calls issue.
It is fixed by using a tmous 2.10 base winmo rom.
Search could have told you this....
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I had this issue (Chipmunk-esque music playback and robo-voice). Flashing to my current rom fixed both problems.
My radio version is 2.10.50.26 on the stock tmo rom (2.13.531.1) and still get the sped up music and robot voice also running the latest zimage from cotulla.
same here, zimage seem not to solve the problem its also not the turbo mode cuz mi clock is working correct but the tracks still sound to fast. Would really like a fix flashed about 5 roms now but nothing seems to work.
I also appear to get this problem, could this be due to a change in hardware in recent models (i got a replacement HD2 in June).
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My radio version is 2.10.50.26 on the stock tmo rom (2.13.531.1) and still get the sped up music and robot voice also running the latest zimage from cotulla.
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same here. i just stopped listening to music while on android. the songs sound 10x better on winmo right now.
OK, an update seems i managed to fix it by flashing Dutty's latest test ROM
Does is really matter which WM rom is used when using Android on hd2?
If I understand correctly WM is "shutdown" when Android is booted, I think only the radio version is important. Or am I missing something?
I know some of the earlier roms suffered from a robotic voice syndrome.
If that can cause a problem thens its possible that other minor issues may a rise but hard to pin point.
The rom you got is important since android still relys on wm for audio... You need a rom that is android friendly or just has the right audio drivers to avoid sound issues in android... As for radio version a .50 is recommend the new 2.14 seems to work just fine with performance increase but battery life is the trade off.
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The rom you got is important since android still relys on wm for audio... You need a rom that is android friendly or just has the right audio drivers to avoid sound issues in android... As for radio version a .50 is recommend the new 2.14 seems to work just fine with performance increase but battery life is the trade off.
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can you elaborate a little more on this i think maybe this could solve my issue with my install and recommend the best WM rom is android friendly thanks sorry to jack
The majority of wm roms work perfectly fine with android. Several are stripped down to boot quickly and have android boot managers built it. They are designed to cut the time necessary to get to android and so you can power on and boot to android without any user input.
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The majority of wm roms work perfectly fine with android. Several are stripped down to boot quickly and have android boot managers built it. They are designed to cut the time necessary to get to android and so you can power on and boot to android without any user input.
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ok so with this effect how phone calls and such take place my problem is i cant call out and when i receive some calls i might get to answer or error out if it works then robot sound any ideas or help on it
Robo Voice is caused by the WM rom, it isn't radio related. If you're getting it, try either one of the roms in the android section (if you want a stripped down winmo), or, if you are a winmo user as well as android, I'd recommend Miri's roms, or elegancia roms (only two I've tested, i'm sure there are more).
Radio is more for reception and sound quality. (Some report difference in sound quality, for example, between radio 2.10 and 2.12.50, personally i've not seen a difference in either. I have noticed a dramatic improvement using radio 2.14, at least for signal quality (I don't see any difference in sound quality, though, but that could be just me.)
I've been using the setup in my signature for months now with no issues apart from the ones stated in builds.
Hope this input helps
I am using the following configuration for running android on my HD2 :
Rom: stock
Radio : 2.8
Every build i have ever used worked perfectly. No robot voice, or any other issues.
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Robo Voice is caused by the WM rom, it isn't radio related. If you're getting it, try either one of the roms in the android section (if you want a stripped down winmo), or, if you are a winmo user as well as android, I'd recommend Miri's roms, or elegancia roms (only two I've tested, i'm sure there are more).
Radio is more for reception and sound quality. (Some report difference in sound quality, for example, between radio 2.10 and 2.12.50, personally i've not seen a difference in either. I have noticed a dramatic improvement using radio 2.14, at least for signal quality (I don't see any difference in sound quality, though, but that could be just me.)
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elegancia rom and omega WM rom gives you robo voice if you are using hyperdroid 1.6 nexus one froyo rom but it works with the chunky rom.
i have been mixing and matching the roms alot lately but because the chefs seems to be updating their roms so fast i have not been keeping up.
I have designed a "kitchen" build available for download It is completly android friendly and I have not had any problems other people have had.
You are more than welcome to download the kitchen and build your own rom to your on specs. It comes with both 6.5 and 6.5.5 You simply choose which you want to build, press start and then flas the rom!
Here is the link: to the thread where I store the kitchen build!
Phone freezes no matter what I try. Stumped
I have a question that seems not to be able to get answered where ever I post it. so please forgive me for posting here if this is not the correct place. I have been trying android from the beginning and I've tried everyones builds. from winmo to droid and different radios to find the right combination. The problem i keep running into is that my phone freezes up no matter what i do. I tried the letama .2 & .3. This problem even occurs in winmo even with the sd out. I may get a full day out of it with no problems then the problem returns. Right know i'm running MDJ Froyo revolution v.1.3 and winmo ozrom 5.10 wwe and radio 2.10.50.26. Also, wipe the sd clean every time i switch builds or upgrade. Haven't figured out how to do logs yet. still searching and reading to try and teach myself how to be more useful around the forums. Thanks and I appreciate all the hard work the DEVS put in. That's why i follow the rules except this time.
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That's why i follow the rules except this time.
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Obey the rules!
Naa, just kidding. But if your phone's freezing even in WinMo there's something really messed up. Did you try to make a task 29 and flash your ROM again? That might be helpful.. If not, turn your phone back to original standards (ROM, HSPL, Radio must be as given by the factory) and go to your retailor to use your guarantee if you still have.
Obey the rules!
Naa, just kidding. But if your phone's freezing even in WinMo there's something really messed up. Did you try to make a task 29 and flash your ROM again? That might be helpful.. If not, turn your phone back to original standards (ROM, HSPL, Radio must be as given by the factory) and go to your retailor to use your guarantee if you still have.
I like you sense of humor. thank you for taking the time and commenting. there has been 30+ people that have viewed this and haven't even responded. But, some can ask like where is the download link and we all now where its at. always at the beginning of the thread,but they get all kind of replies. It just makes no sense to me when someone has a legit question they can't get much help. don't really understand that. Thought we were here to help each other.I don't believe that its an issue hardware issue. i believe its more software than anything. It comes and goes. My phone was going thru a period where it would reboot all by itself with no apparent reason. Then all of a sudden it stopped it and hasn't done that for 4 to 6 weeks.
really 97 views and no insight.
you tried the stock factory rom?? It might be hardware. You will be surprised a tiny drop of water inside your phone will slowly mess up your phone through a long period of time.
Are you on tmobile? I will try to look for a stock rom for you.
BTW, what do you mean by freezing? it hiccups or you have to do a battery pull.
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btw, your title is a curious one, that is why you have many views and received little to no response. If they can't help you they won't post anything. But I will try my best to see whats going on.
if your suffering from the freezes in winmo and android then you I think that you need to forget about android for the time being and concentrate on getting a stable WM set up........
If you havent already done so then try a hard reset and see if that helps.......
try booting and running your phone with and without your sd card........
with and without your sim card........
if it still happens after the hard reset then you will need to reflash your WM rom, if you plan on using the phone mostly for android then I would opt for a basic rom like the energy reference series or one of duttys roms.....
there are many reasons why your phone might freeze and you need to spend time trying all situations to figure out what makes it freeze..........
if it still happens after the reset/reflash then we can only assume that it is a serious problem which may well require a warranty replacement.....
if your suffering from the freezes in winmo and android then you I think that you need to forget about android for the time being and concentrate on getting a stable WM set up........
I have tried all that you have suggested. The curious thing to me is that it seems to come and go. It first started with the energy rom and it's also happened with dutty's as well. if you guys know how to pull logs that devs need is possible you could give me a run down on how and then maybe i can find out if it is hardware. My phone has never been near water. i'm very careful about that. I'm using ozrom now. This is the 3rd HD2 i've had. the last one lost all touch response. I just have a feeling its software, but i just have a gut feeling on that. Thanks everyone though for your input i greatly appreciate it and keep it coming.
BTW, what do you mean by freezing? it hiccups or you have to do a battery pull.
I have to pull the battery. Then i may have to leave it out for a minute or two maybe longer then replace battery before it will load windows. it will just show the splash screen.
was this happening even when you were running the stock rom?
Have you tried to reformat your SD Card? I have two, and when I used my original card received with my HD2, TMOUSA, it would freeze. Since I reformatted and use new and old card, no problems for over a month.
was this happening even when you were running the stock rom?
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Have you tried to reformat your SD Card? I have two, and when I used my original card received with my HD2, TMOUSA, it would freeze. Since I reformatted and use new and old card, no problems for over a month.
yes. I have two the 16 that came with it and an 8. it happens with both. I reformat every time i switch builds.
I see that your using radio 2.10 and that caused my HD2 to freeze a lot. change your radio to 2.12 or 2.14
I use the same Android build as you but with the elegancia gtx wm rom with radio 2.14 and after upgrading the radio the freezing (SOD) stopped.
I started using the radio 2.15.50 and have had no problems whatsoever. Also unchecking auto rotate and auto britghtness helps. Sometimes redownloading and installing your Android helps if you got a bad download the first time.
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now runnning enery extreme from 11/5 and mdj desire hd with his newest kernel smartass and the only time it freezes in during a call. usually anywhere from 5 - 15 minutes into the call. Anyone have any insight two a possible solution?
This is what I would do:
1. Task 29
2. Flash a slim WM ROM such as the one mentioned in my signature.
3. Flash a NEW RADIO...at least 2.12 or even higher.
3a. Install NOTHING. NOTHING AT ALL. Just answer and make calls. Period.
4. Test that build for two days. If I have freezups, then my phone is bad and I would flash the stock rom and radio and return it. If it does not freezup goto 5.
5. Completely reformat my SD card to Fat32 32kb (or 64kb if you think it affects stuttering in music).
6. Since you and I are both in the US, I recommend getting an Android that has a built in TMO MMS fix such as the new MDJ build (with link to MMS fix) or the fine MooMoo build or even Bluetopia.
7. Test the basic features in Android for two days minimum and see if I get freezeups (after disabling auto-rotate and wi-fi on the Android build as well as completely shutting off all radios in WM).
8. Be glad I got this far, and slowly reinstall my apps, testing each thoroughly for freezing.
This is what I would do:
1. Task 29
2. Flash a slim WM ROM such as the one mentioned in my signature.
3. Flash a NEW RADIO...at least 2.12 or even higher.
3a. Install NOTHING. NOTHING AT ALL. Just answer and make calls. Period.
4. Test that build for two days. If I have freezups, then my phone is bad and I would flash the stock rom and radio and return it. If it does not freezup goto 5.
5. Completely reformat my SD card to Fat32 32kb (or 64kb if you think it affects stuttering in music)
Thanks for taking the time to post this i appreciate it. I have tried it all. It appears to be getting better. I have been using MDJ's kernels since he posted them with his desire hd build. I have always felt that it was software related and not hardware. It appears to me to be caused maybe by the data drops from ppp. Not sure though till i teach myself how to do that. thanks again though.
Turned out to be a hardware issue. Got my new replacement and it works flawless. Can't believe the fun I was missing. At least it was a great learning experience.
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hey guys. ok ive searched and searched and gone through thread after thread to try and find a working android build for an AUSTRALIAN TELSTRA HD2.
im still using the phone on the telstra network and have yet to find a rom/radio/android combination that works.
so far most ones ive tried have the problems where i cant answer half of my calls since the screen was so moody or other ones the battery would drain in just a few hours.
i keep hearing that mdj's latest desire hd build is fantastic so if anyone has a good combination of a rom + radio + android build that would work for my hd2 then i will love you forever!!!
Hi,
I have a t9193 as well but first thing I did was flash a custom rom.
I am using Dutty's v9 on the windows mobile side and Mdeejay's 4.3 desire hd on the android side. It works fine but it needs a little time to get going. Also, you will need to set your apn info manually in Android so take note of it in windows. I am using the latest radio 2.15.50.14 without problems. T9193 is able to support most roms out there contrary to the t-mobile version.
Miri's v25 on htcpedia.com also works great.
Good luck.
darrengladysz said:
Hi,
I have a t9193 as well but first thing I did was flash a custom rom.
I am using Dutty's v9 on the windows mobile side and Mdeejay's 4.3 desire hd on the android side. It works fine but it needs a little time to get going. Also, you will need to set your apn info manually in Android so take note of it in windows. I am using the latest radio 2.15.50.14 without problems. T9193 is able to support most roms out there contrary to the t-mobile version.
Miri's v25 on htcpedia.com also works great.
Good luck.
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alright ive put on that combination exactly and it still has a problem where sometimes it DOESNT come back from the black screen when locked. is there any fix for this as its been my main android problem since the beginning T-T
You need to change the radio rom to something that ends in .50. Telstra radio roms seem to end in .51. I use 2.15.50.14 and it seems to work ok.
I'm using MDJ_FroYo_HD_v._4.3_MDJ_S7.5HD with my wm being Cheetah Rom 3.14 base. I've been running this for a few days now and its pretty stable.
Good luck with your Android, gingerbread (Android 2.3), will probably be available soon too, waiting for that...
Cheers....
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You need to change the radio rom to something that ends in .50. Telstra radio roms seem to end in .51. I use 2.15.50.14 and it seems to work ok.
I'm using MDJ_FroYo_HD_v._4.3_MDJ_S7.5HD with my wm being Cheetah Rom 3.14 base. I've been running this for a few days now and its pretty stable.
Good luck with your Android, gingerbread (Android 2.3), will probably be available soon too, waiting for that...
Cheers....
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yeh im using a .50. type radio and STILL having problems its like my phone doesnt want to do android at all and its really starting to frustrate me. almost to the point of wanting another phone. do i need to be doing anything else or doing a few more restarts???
karasu666 said:
alright ive put on that combination exactly and it still has a problem where sometimes it DOESNT come back from the black screen when locked. is there any fix for this as its been my main android problem since the beginning T-T
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Hi,
I had this issue initially on 1st and 2nd boot or so. Don't forget that Android is run from sd card. You have to give 1-2 seconds to get going and load up the info from the sd.
When this happens, hit the end call button until the keypads light up and wait a few seconds. Make sure your keypad is lit up as it sometimes closes again. You can hit the call button and middle button as well.
Also, make sure that you uncheck auto intensity for display in windows mobile and I set the display time out to 10 minutes in Android.
Here is a trick and use and it seems to work. I let android sit for about 15-30 minutes on first boot to allow it to be stabilized and allow all the syncs to take place (the hd rom actually will download and re-install all marketplace apps - have a look in marketplace under downloads to see this). I then restart it a few times after that and even let it sit a bit to finalize everything. Don't ask me why but this helps a lot. Android seems to get faster each time. You also may want to postpone sync with exchange/outlook and also htc sense until your 4-5 boot.
Lastly, when you first start an application (each time you boot up) there is a slight lag so exercise some patience. After that it is very fast.
Hope this helps. If you want a faster build that is non desire hd based you can try mdeejay evo sense revolution build. It is not as fancy as the hd build but is lightning fast.
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hey guys. ok ive searched and searched and gone through thread after thread to try and find a working android build for an AUSTRALIAN TELSTRA HD2.
im still using the phone on the telstra network and have yet to find a rom/radio/android combination that works.
so far most ones ive tried have the problems where i cant answer half of my calls since the screen was so moody or other ones the battery would drain in just a few hours.
i keep hearing that mdj's latest desire hd build is fantastic so if anyone has a good combination of a rom + radio + android build that would work for my hd2 then i will love you forever!!!
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I also happen 2 own an Australian HD2 off Telstra and use both Telstra and Vodafone sims. Check my sig for the Win Rom/ Android combination. It works well for me, I've tried most of Mdj's Android roms as well but have found Sergio's Core Droid to be the most stable. Any of NRGZ28's Windows Roms will work well with Android, give it a go. I also downgraded my radio from 2.15 to 2.12 and that seems 2 work better for me. Hope that helps
My Telstra HD2 is running Android perfectly.
However, I want to watch Foxtel on it but says it doesn't recognise my HD2 as a Telstra device.
It is a T9193 from Telstra, but there must be a setting somewhere that's not right.
Any help would be awesome.
Cheers,
Dev
Hello,
My friends complain about my call quality. They tell me that my voice repetitively gets extremely silent, so inaudible they often ask back so I need to repeat myself multiple times which is weird and aggravating at some point.
I have an EU HD2 with radio 2.15.50.14 and Rafdroid HD 4.0.2 NAND + data2sd. I had this problem back while I was still using wm65 Energy ROMs or my own custom built wm65 ROM, so I'm 99% sure it's unrelated to the operating system.
BTW I'm on T-Mobile Hungary. Gonna try my phone with Vodafone too, just to narrow things down.
Oh, and no, I'm NOT covering the microphone with my hand. I always hold my phone in my right hand when calling.
Anyone else had a problem like this?
Thanks,
Jay
Bumpity bump?
If you had the issue with the Energy ROM and your current ROM plus you have the most current radio version installed it my just be a issue of bad service in your area. You could try down grading your radio starting with the radio under the one you have and systematicly work your way down from there with the radio versions to see if you can find one that works better in your area. Go to the HTC HD2 Master Radio Thread to get the radios.
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If you had the issue with the Energy ROM and your current ROM plus you have the most current radio version installed it my just be a issue of bad service in your area. You could try down grading your radio starting with the radio under the one you have and systematicly work your way down from there with the radio versions to see if you can find one that works better in your area. Go to the HTC HD2 Master Radio Thread to get the radios.
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Thanks for the tip! Will try that.
I have exactly the same issue on my HD2.
Radio 2.07.50.27_2
Energy ROM: Energy.Leo.29007.Sense2.5.Cookie.2.0.Dec.27
I think for me this is a hardware problem, but it occurs very randomly and usually sound is ok again after some seconds.
JayMore, did you find a solution?
I have had this problem for quite a while also on older Energy ROM (same radio), but I never called very much. Now it is getting worse or I make too much long calls and I'm ready to RMA.
Try using a different microSD card, since I've switched, nobody mentioned this problem. Sounds stupid enough to actually do the trick...
Help!!!
My HTC HD2 is giving me problems....everytime I receive a call the caller gets a echo of his/her voice.....is there anything I can do to fix that????
Same problem here.
Usually when people phone me. If I phone back it seems OK.
Gonna try and rollback to an earlier radio to see if that works.