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Newer Nexus One's to feature HTC's new maxTouch technology?

Do you think it'll happen? There has been rumors floating around about it.

Doubt it.
Where are the rumours from? here?

Damn the title got me excited. Well I sure hope so because I was planning on ordering a nexus one in 41 days when i'm 22 months into my t-mobile contract. Could you please link us to a news article that talks about this. Thanks

I was on someone else's computer and don't have the link for it though. Sorry.

Id sell this and buy a new one.

Android Touch said:
I was on someone else's computer and don't have the link for it though. Sorry.
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Well I went searching on google and I didn't see anything close to what this title suggests. I'm refering to rumors too. Oh well =(

Android Touch said:
There has been rumors floating around about it.
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No there haven't.

well... technically he just started one

I don't know if the newer batch of Nexus One will have this new feature/digitizer technology, but endgadget did mentioned that HTC droid incredible does uses this new technology.

that would blow

"People wildly speculating on these forms" != "There has been rumors floating around about it"

Haven't seen a single word about this aside from this thread.

zachthemaster said:
that would blow
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Why would that blow? How can anyone expect the hardware world not to continue evolving. There will always be something better than what you have... if you have the best right now, something is about to come out that beats it. You can't expect that new technology in an embedded device, such as a phone, will take the place of older technology used in current generation devices.
There is no reason to believe that HTC is going to change their manufacturing process for the Nexus One, or any of their currently released phones. The new technology will be in place for NEW devices, it would be quite odd for them to just start making Nexus Ones with different hardware simply because that hardware exists in the new devices they are manufacturing.

zachthemaster said:
that would blow
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Not when you can still say "warranty exchange."

Actually, judging by how fast google goes through versions and software (look at Chrome browser, already at 4.0 or 5.0), google is probably already testing Nexus Two. That thing'll probably have new screen.
They got a contract with current screen manufacturer, I bet they won't worry about switching now.

Google shows that this is the start of this rumor....

zachthemaster said:
that would blow
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No it wouldn't. What would blow is if advancements stopped.

faraz1992 said:
Google shows that this is the start of this rumor....
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Lmao.
For some reason I believe this a stupid question. The bashing and returns that would occur after this change, and the complaints and people maybe even wanting their money back would be so gradual it would cause a bad costly uproar.
People would form small not needed hate groups, make *****y blog post about how Google somehow "scamed" customers, Google's name would be flamed harshly by people who want attention. I could just imagine this happening..

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No it wouldn't. What would blow is if advancements stopped.
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ya, it would blow if they implemented this "new technology" on a phone thats already out.
kinda like what they did with the myTouch. they add a 3.5mm jack?? thats lame because all the people who own the phone previous to this launch now want that phone but cant get it because they just bought the other version like two months earlier (and just in case you take this literally I'M GENERALIZING)
ATnTdude said:
Not when you can still say "warranty exchange."
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i agree with you...
daveid said:
Why would that blow? How can anyone expect the hardware world not to continue evolving. There will always be something better than what you have... if you have the best right now, something is about to come out that beats it. You can't expect that new technology in an embedded device, such as a phone, will take the place of older technology used in current generation devices.
There is no reason to believe that HTC is going to change their manufacturing process for the Nexus One, or any of their currently released phones. The new technology will be in place for NEW devices, it would be quite odd for them to just start making Nexus Ones with different hardware simply because that hardware exists in the new devices they are manufacturing.
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jesus christ. thank you so much for your pointless reply. I'm not an idiot, I'm saying that IT WOULD SUCK ON MY BALLSACK if they put NEWER technology on a phone that is already ON THE SHELVES.
You all take things way too seriously/literally so calm the **** down and overlook my post if you feel like you should waste your dumb energy replying to it.

zachthemaster said:
jesus christ. thank you so much for your pointless reply. I'm not an idiot, I saying that IT WOULD SUCK ON MY BALLSACK if they put NEWER technology on a phone that is already ON THE SHELVES.
You all take things way too seriously/literally so calm the **** down and overlook my post if you feel like you should waste your dumb energy replying to it.
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I wish I could give you a cup of Froyo to calm you down. ;-)
I completely agree though. Some people talk out of their butt sometimes.

Pocket God now available for Nexus One

http://www.androidcentral.com/pocket-god-android-now-available
Just wanted to give people a heads up since its such an iconic game for the iPhone.
I wont be getting it myself (wiimote + emaulators suit me just fine) but I really like the fact that more and more iPhone developers keep coming over to Android. Soon enough iPhone owners will have one less reason to justify putting up with Apples monopolistic system.

another point is that the iphone must be connected to a pc to do just about anything
whereas android users need not even own a pc/laptop, EVER, since everything can be done on the phone
to the cloud!

Not everywhere
Free Google maps navigation? Not in my country.
Free Google voice? Not in my country.
iPhone only on AT&T? Not in my country.

hold the phone....... iphone doesnt have a user replaceable battery?
also in uk iphones on every network.
kids eh.....

bah, where the hell is words with friends. They could be making so much with ad revenue

I tried it and it does not work on my N1, it crashes when it is started.
May try after the update

behelit said:
another point is that the iphone must be connected to a pc to do just about anything
whereas android users need not even own a pc/laptop, EVER, since everything can be done on the phone
to the cloud!
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You do need a Google account to get access to many of the apps/games. Just a way for them to more deeply tie you into their ad spying cash cow. Nothing is perfect, son.

Award Tour said:
You do need a Google account to get access to many of the apps/games. Just a way for them to more deeply tie you into their ad spying cash cow. Nothing is perfect, son.
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sorry, i don't understand your point, are you saying apple doesn't spy on you?
who clicks ads/reads anyway?

On the other hand, you have a choice to use Google Market and apps. If you don´t want it you don´t. Apple does not give their users much if a choice but that´s ok also. It all depends on your own needs.

Did a search for this via market and nothing comes up what gives?

resinous said:
Did a search for this via market and nothing comes up what gives?
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I assume you're not in the US?

I'm iin Seattle. Using Rodriguez miui latest. Could it be my ROM?
edit * realized some of my timezones were off adjusted them, now it shows up

robinahman said:
Free Google maps navigation? Not in my country.
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Enjoy
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=630887

I must be missing something, I don't get the point of this game. Is it just killing off the little people in a couple of different ways in each area or is there something more to it that I can't see?
It's in the market for me down here in New Zealand.

knightnz said:
I must be missing something, I don't get the point of this game. Is it just killing off the little people in a couple of different ways in each area or is there something more to it that I can't see?
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Yea same, I don't get the point of this.. Disappointing considering people were saying this was one of the more popular games on the iPhone.

jasrups said:
Yea same, I don't get the point of this.. Disappointing considering people were saying this was one of the more popular games on the iPhone.
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they own iphones what do you expect

They don't get out much.

bud760 said:
they own iphones what do you expect
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Made my day.

bud760 said:
they own iphones what do you expect
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hahaha I played the game for a few minutes and refunded. I don't see how this could be entertaining at all

Yell at AT&T for Atrix pricing on twitter (+) #ATTyoukilleditforme

Tweet this, least we can do:
@ATT @ATTNews @ATTTeamUSA Congratulations, #ATTyoukilleditforme with your ridiculous ATRIX pricing scheme. #waytoruinagreatphone
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Trend: #ATTyoukilleditforme
Tweet and retweet it.

I like the thought, but
The only thing that's going to get through to them is their pocketbook. If noone buys in or leaves them high and dry then they'll change! Until then the're gonna keep trying to make the most profit they can with minimal overhead(which is the way of every company in the world some worse than others)!

Yep, and the more we yell about it, the better.

Yelling, or threatening, at AT&T isn't going to do any good. If customers left in droves, then yes, AT&T would feel it in their pocketbooks and take action. However, the likelihood of that actually happening is tiny, and not in the numbers necessary to get the point across.
However, what CAN hurt AT&T is bad press. They already suffer from a poor consumer image. I posted over at androidforums.com (I can't post links yet but it's "Twitter hashtag to protest..." in the Atrix 4G forum) about protesting the price. If all of a sudden there was a single, unified twitter hashtag (@'ed at @ATT of course) that reprehended AT&T for their greed then that would garner their attention. Especially if within that tweet we let it be known that what they did is specifically why we're not getting the Atrix.
As lame as it is, a trending hashtag can be a big thing in the eyes of P.R.

The Atrix for $200 w/ two year is reasonable. $500 for the laptop dock is ridiculous. The Atrix for $200 and the laptop dock for $300 w/ 2gb plan and tethering is simply absurd.
I was thinking of staying with AT&T when the Atrix was announced at CES, but I may be looking to switch to Verizon now and picking up the Bionic.
Poor move A...T$T, poor move.See More
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AT&T Hi Dave. Sorry to hear you may switch, but we do appreciate your feedback. We'll pass it along. about an hour ago · Like
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That's what I posted on their Facebook page. I'm not the only one sharing my opinion on the matter.
Who knows if the person running the page will actually pass it on to higher-ups.

irishtexmex said:
Yelling, or threatening, at AT&T isn't going to do any good. If customers left in droves, then yes, AT&T would feel it in their pocketbooks and take action. However, the likelihood of that actually happening is tiny, and not in the numbers necessary to get the point across.
However, what CAN hurt AT&T is bad press. They already suffer from a poor consumer image. I posted over at androidforums.com (I can't post links yet but it's "Twitter hashtag to protest..." in the Atrix 4G forum) about protesting the price. If all of a sudden there was a single, unified twitter hashtag (@'ed at @ATT of course) that reprehended AT&T for their greed then that would garner their attention. Especially if within that tweet we let it be known that what they did is specifically why we're not getting the Atrix.
As lame as it is, a trending hashtag can be a big thing in the eyes of P.R.
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So you disagree with me by agreeing with me and doing exactly what I proposed. Alright, whatever works, trending # is a good thing, let's get it rolling.

DarkDvr said:
So you disagree with me by agreeing with me and doing exactly what I proposed. Alright, whatever works, trending # is a good thing, let's get it rolling.
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In a roundabot way, yes, I disagreed with you while agreeing with you.
I think if everyone yells their own random thing at AT&T and makes their own random hashtags then it will just be lots of white noise.
If there's a sense of organization and unity, easily brought about by an emerging "Trending Topic" (thru hashtags), then I think AT&T will be a lot more receptive to hearing it. But yeah, we're on the same side here. Sorry if I came off as dissenting--I didn't mean to.
Does anyone have any good ideas for a hashtag?

irishtexmex said:
In a roundabot way, yes, I disagreed with you while agreeing with you.
I think if everyone yells their own random thing at AT&T and makes their own random hashtags then it will just be lots of white noise.
If there's a sense of organization and unity, easily brought about by an emerging "Trending Topic" (thru hashtags), then I think AT&T will be a lot more receptive to hearing it. But yeah, we're on the same side here. Sorry if I came off as dissenting--I didn't mean to.
Does anyone have any good ideas for a hashtag?
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There was one already I saw, #waytoruinagreatphone

Agreed. Everyone needs to get on twitter and on their facebook page and get pissed at them. Moto too. It does mak a difference. How do you think sony erricson knows they ****ed up with not upgrading the x10?

substance12 said:
Agreed. Everyone needs to get on twitter and on their facebook page and get pissed at them. Moto too. It does mak a difference. How do you think sony erricson knows they ****ed up with not upgrading the x10?
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I've got an idea. Let me work on it, but I'll be back with details tomorrow.
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buh-bye, developer support.
buy-buy, a good portion of customers.
buh-bye, Atrix.
I see this turning into the next x10.

this morning at wing bowl I stumbled into the stadium and saw an at&t booth by the door. i walked over and started yelling at them about how the dock pricing was bull**** and stuff. i remember it becoming a decent convo with one of the reps there, but it may have just been me drunkenly yelling at the dude, idk.
either way, i literally yelled at at&t about the dock pricing.
oh and i asked if they knew how much the hd multimedia dock would cost (standalone) and they couldnt give me a price

Excellent move Now if any of those reps actually had the power to change any of this then we'd be on our way. I still like the phone but I am sure going to wait it out now to see what else comes around. Man, I wish I would have taken off for the wing bowl.

SG Pillar said:
this morning at wing bowl I stumbled into the stadium and saw an at&t booth by the door. i walked over and started yelling at them about how the dock pricing was bull**** and stuff. i remember it becoming a decent convo with one of the reps there, but it may have just been me drunkenly yelling at the dude, idk.
either way, i literally yelled at at&t about the dock pricing.
oh and i asked if they knew how much the hd multimedia dock would cost (standalone) and they couldnt give me a price
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That's brilliant. I think yelling at any AT&T Employees is great! AS LONG AS you make sure you let them know that you are not yelling at them, the employee, but you are very upset with the company and that they should report to their superior about it.
Gosh, I have no idea why I'm so riled up about a phone and its accessory. Granted, my birthday is right around the corner and this news completely derailed what I had planned. Oh well. I just hope that we can cause enough uproar so that there might be real action taken.

irishtexmex said:
That's brilliant. I think yelling at any AT&T Employees is great! AS LONG AS you make sure you let them know that you are not yelling at them, the employee, but you are very upset with the company and that they should report to their superior about it.
Gosh, I have no idea why I'm so riled up about a phone and its accessory. Granted, my birthday is right around the corner and this news completely derailed what I had planned. Oh well. I just hope that we can cause enough uproar so that there might be real action taken.
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yeah like i said, i think it moved into a bit more calm talking after i just yelled that to get their attention. it was a crazy morning, drinking from 4-10am haha

I dunno
Well I posted a not so nice comment on the AT&T Facebook page about the pricing of the dock and their lack of concern for their customers that keep them in business, and their already horrible reputation. It would be good for all of us to post something there to make them notice.
I did not want the laptop docking station. I have maxed out my Captivate....it needs more ram and more speed which is what the Atrix has. I was going to be the first to get it, now I have to think about it and look at other options so I can't say for sure what I will do other than post more comments on their Facebook page.

panflute said:
I did not want the laptop docking station. I have maxed out my Captivate....it needs more ram and more speed which is what the Atrix has. I was going to be the first to get it, now I have to think about it and look at other options so I can't say for sure what I will do other than post more comments on their Facebook page.
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Out of curiosity what does your captivate need more ram and speed for.
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**** me, I was going to have one with a laptop imported to use on Telstra, but with the pricing, AT&T can go **** themselves. I mean, I can get a decent netbook for less than $500! I'll just get the phone, and then I'll import the dock from.the UK, where it should be cheaper. EDIT: My tweet on Twitter, follow and RT please:
Bodman456:
@ATT @ATTNews @ATTTeamUSA Congratulations, #ATTyoukilleditforme with your ridiculous ATRIX pricing scheme. #waytoruinagreatphone
Swyped from my HTC Desire running LeeDrOiD 2.3d with Tapatalk.

BodenM said:
**** me, I was going to have one with a laptop imported to use on Telstra, but with the pricing, AT&T can go **** themselves. I mean, I can get a decent netbook for less than $500! I'll just get the phone, and then I'll import the dock from.the UK, where it should be cheaper. EDIT: My tweet on Twitter, follow and RT please:
Bodman456:
@ATT @ATTNews @ATTTeamUSA Congratulations, #ATTyoukilleditforme with your ridiculous ATRIX pricing scheme. #waytoruinagreatphone
Swyped from my HTC Desire running LeeDrOiD 2.3d with Tapatalk.
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I think this is the tweet we should all be aiming for. Tweet it yourself, and then retweet it when you see it. Thanks.
@ATT @ATTNews @ATTTeamUSA Congratulations, #ATTyoukilleditforme with your ridiculous ATRIX pricing scheme. #waytoruinagreatphone

nm, delete this message

google buys motorola!

http://techcrunch.com/2011/08/15/br...h+(TechCrunch)&utm_content=Google+Feedfetcher
its on baby

Well that lets us know who will make the next Nexus phone after the Prime.

prime could be a motorola phone... wonder how long this has been in the works

Wow im blown away.... they've kept this under wraps very well.... so I guess if we see froyo on any new big "M" devices we'll know who to blame lol

really makes me wonder if google will buy sprint

I'm surprised they were able to keep it a secret til it was announced by them.

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really makes me wonder if google will buy sprint
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Would be cool.... but id be afraid that they would mess up our unlimited, no speed capped, cheap plans.....

Just saw this on the news.12.4 billion or something? Its out doing apple now, crazy ****.
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theduce102 said:
Would be cool.... but id be afraid that they would mess up our unlimited, no speed capped, cheap plans.....
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i really don't see it... if anything they will try to drive down everyoen elses prices. maybe even go full VOIP

I can only pray that Google buys Sprint. They need to put a stake through the heart of the old telco empires.

murso74 said:
i really don't see it... if anything they will try to drive down everyoen elses prices. maybe even go full VOIP
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They already took Sprint to VoIP with the Sprint integration feature in Gvoice lol

theduce102 said:
They already took Sprint to VoIP with the Sprint integration feature in Gvoice lol
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not voip.. can't call from it. or recieve for that matter. still uses cell service on the user end

http://www.bgr.com/2011/08/15/googl...-behind-motorola-acquisition-spoiler-patents/

now google needs to appease samsung by inking a long term deal with them for SAMOLED plus screens.... and HTC for ... something

theduce102 said:
Would be cool.... but id be afraid that they would mess up our unlimited, no speed capped, cheap plans.....
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If anything I would say google would do everything they could to stay unlimited. Have you seen their strategy for their own fiber opic network or their stance on net neutrality?
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could you imagine sprints gets the iphone 5..... and then google buys them? i'd laugh my ass off

murso74 said:
could you imagine sprints gets the iphone 5..... and then google buys them? i'd laugh my ass off
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ROFL this is definitely some mind blowing news. Wow I just woke up am I dreaming this. I'm suprised motorola is that cheap 12 billion makes me wonder why tmobile was more expensive 39 billion motorola has been around a lot longer and I thought there sales in multiple markets were pretty good

Anyone else think Google is going to buy the rest of the android team. ( Samsung, HTC)
It could be good, our future phones software will come directly from google & not be chopped and screwed like they are now.
I doubt apple would try to sue google if that happens.

This is crazy, I can only imagine how big Google will be 10 years from now, now they have some serious patents and will always have ad money, and that will only grow in the long run.

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Anyone else think Google is going to buy the rest of the android team. ( Samsung, HTC)
It could be good, our future phones software will come directly from google & not be chopped and screwed like they are now.
I doubt apple would try to sue google if that happens.
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that will never happen... those companies are very happy right now however. the patents from motorola secure androids future against attacks from microsoft and apple, which is great for companies like samsung and HTC who are heavily invested in android

Guess most of us are a**holes or morons according to this survey

wow - stupid but fun to waste 5 minutes on.
http://blog.hunch.com/?p=51781

that was probably commissioned by apple,

Iphone - older, more affluent
Android - younger, less affluent
Looking ahead, iphone = doomed to a ~10% niche market, just like the Mac

Put me in the asshole camp.

It states that android users are 50% more likely to use Yahoo mail.
I call bull**** on that one.

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It states that android users are 50% more likely to use Yahoo mail.
I call bull**** on that one.
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Lol of course
Edit: what the hell android users more likely follow than iphone users lead WTF? Also bull****
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86% more likely to live in the country
well that's obviously because AT&T has crap coverage in rural areas. Same can be said about iPhone more likely to live in the city. Verizon is better at least, but around here if you live in the sticks you are best going with US Cellular who obviously doesn't carry the iPhone, but they have a few Android devices.

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wow - stupid but fun to waste 5 minutes on.
http://blog.hunch.com/?p=51781
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I'm surrounded by assholes!

jdelano said:
that was probably commissioned by apple,
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I say almost definately an Apple person. "Ugly phones that do everything vs Sleek phones that do less."
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Monkey Pox said:
It states that android users are 50% more likely to use Yahoo mail.
I call bull**** on that one.
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Well, if 2 out of 1000 iPhoners have Yahoo mail and 3 out of 1000 Androiders, then that would be "50% more likely," even though essentially nobody on either side actually has it.
It's probably true, I would bet, because most of the iPhone people I know don't even realize that AOL isn't the only email provider on the internet.

Monkey Pox said:
It states that android users are 50% more likely to use Yahoo mail.
I call bull**** on that one.
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I use the following email services..
Yahoo
Hotmail
Aol
Gmail
Now ofcourse I use others more thn others.
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xopher.hunter said:
what the hell android users more likely follow than iphone users lead WTF? Also bull****
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Actually, it says that iphone users are "more likely to say they lead," which I tend to believe. Studies have shown that "popular kids" and those who think they are trend-setters tend to be the biggest followers (copying what they see on TV, movies, ads, etc.). iPhone users believe they are leaders and trend-setters because they're doing what they see other popular people do, but clearly there's a difference between saying you're a leader and actually being one.

moto_google said:
I use the following email services..
Yahoo
Hotmail
Aol
Gmail
Now ofcourse I use others more thn others.
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Yeah, I was going to come here and say that might also mean android users are just more likely to have multiple email addresses.
Edit: And now that I've continued reading, I see that is not case. I'm skeptical. Though we are more likely to be gmail users, so, maybe we don't need the other crap.
I had to come comment on the "122% more likely to want a pretty looking, but worthless, device" that's the iPhone demo to a T
(not that the iPhone is worthless, but they definitely have that attitude.)

That is the dumbest **** I ever read. Apple propaganda. Sad thing is it will actually work on someone.

I suppose the take home message here is that android has come full circle. We here on XDA aren't your average android user anymore. The average android user is someone that went to best buy and figured "if I'm going to pay ____, I may as well get a smartphone."
In other words, this is really a testament to the extent that android has done away with the concept of "dumbphones," more than it is a statement about user differences.
This may as well be iPhone users vs the public.

Elite11b said:
That is the dumbest **** I ever read. Apple propaganda. Sad thing is it will actually work on someone.
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Well, I don't think "propaganda" is fair. I don't think anyone is trying to pull one over on anyone, or make a point.
It's just important to keep in mind that this is a self selecting survey, with no verification. Perhaps iPhone users exaggerated, or weren't quite honest with themselves, as someone already hinted at. To me a large number of the answers iPhone look like they're trying too hard to look special/deep. "Look at me! My fav ice cream is salted caramel, my fav food is tapas, my fav fruit is the clementine!"
Edit: not to mention a lot of the points are "iPhone users are more likely to spend money, regardless of the return" Well, no kidding. Maybe way more iPhone users use gogoinflight because android users, correctly, IMO, think paying $13 to have internet access for 3 hours is absurd. So, you can take a lot of these data points either way.

whats the problem with clementines?

austin420 said:
whats the problem with clementines?
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The fruit-to-effort ratio is too low.
I mean really, if I'm going to go to all that trouble to peel the darn thing, I should get a little more for the effort. iPhone people probably have an app to peel it for them.

edonnelly said:
The fruit-to-effort ratio is too low.
I mean really, if I'm going to go to all that trouble to peel the darn thing, I should get a little more for the effort. iPhone people probably have an app to peel it for them.
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I LOL'd at this one. "fruit-to-effort ratio"...that made my day so far, thank you for that.
And FWIW, I had never heard of salted caramel ice cream until recently. And it is fricking delicious. I love caramel anything (within reason of course) so that makes sense.

edonnelly said:
The fruit-to-effort ratio is too low.
I mean really, if I'm going to go to all that trouble to peel the darn thing, I should get a little more for the effort. iPhone people probably have an app to peel it for them.
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i take it youve never peeled one then, because the peel comes off of them way easier than an orange, and they have no pith. pound wise, they are cheaper too if you buy in a 10 lb bag.