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Hello all
Have searched this forum, but im not really sure what to do.
I've used titanium backup to perm remove a few stock apps, the exchange stock app and amazon app
Now i can't recive any updates OTA, and i get this message..:
assert failed: apply_patch_check("/system/app/Stock.apk"....
E:Error in /sdcard/download/OTA_Ace_HTC_WWE_172_405_3_r2_1_32_405_6_release_1632939lowfu0y78jktpp2.zip
(status 7)
using 2.2 android version number 1.32.405.6
please help
//Cham
You can't accept OTA updates when you are rooted.
I see, but only used temp root with visionary
is that going to affect something?
Or what are my options to get a hold of updates in the future, a costum rom instead? I do kinda like the stock rom, just without stock apps
anyone?
Once again, if you are rooted, it doesnt matter how, you CANNOT accept ota update.
If you deleted something you shouldnt have, then restore the backup to that, or do a factory reset and re-root.
Ok i just figures since it was TEMProot that it didn't matter. Tnx for the reply, tried the factory default option (no luck), is there any place where I can get the Stock firmware to re-flash the phone?
Or would anyone in here recommend another rom ? Tons of custom roms, as I can tell.
Thread moved in Desire HD General.
go here and youll find your rom that you need,
you need the ones that are "RUU_Ace_HTC_WWE" in the file name, as these are what we call World Wide Editions
Thank you very much.
Just to make sure I do not **** something up, what are the steps i should follow, to install the rom?
This is what I did: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=888109
Got the same problem -- some time ago I removed some "useless" apps from my /system/app folder, and when 1.72 update was released I wasn't able to install it in any way (I was trying to follow this guide). I restored the missing apps, and then everything went fine using the guide mentioned above!
Hope this helps.
sitlet said:
You can't accept OTA updates when you are rooted.
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Sorry but that ain't correct... You *can* update your phone if you're rooted, the main problem is that root will be gone after update. The best solution is to *always* reject OTA updates provided by HTC and wait until devs here have found a safe way to update your device without losing root privileges.
Thank you
Thank you all, it gave perfectly sense since I'm quite happy with the stock firmware, i'll stick with this. The root is not so necessary for me at least for now
I'm glad it was corrected that visionary did not remove the ability for OTA, that was also what I've read before used it.
Newbie question for sure, but I really am thinking of rooting my Iconia. Will I lose the ability to get expected updates?
I guess we'll find out, but you can always undo the root (using Gingerbreak) if the need comes
Yea, unless they specifically added something to detect root and stop updates you can. Worst case you can get someone to send you the update.zip when it's out and you can flash it yourself.
just DO NOT uninstall any apps that came with the device as doing so usually prevents the update from working.
Why wouldn't root be able to get updates?
Root is simply what the developers would have access to in order to develop certain things and denying them updates wouldn't make any sense.
Sounds Like Something Apple Would Do!
Title says it all.
Thanks all. I appreciate the info.
does an update factory reset?
How about for those of us that have renamed / deleted the phone.apk and telephony.apk files, I wonder if an update will factory resest and possibly brick the device?
Hi, i just rooted my nexus 7, with custom recovery and unlocked bootloader. Just wanna know will i still recieve ota from google for my tablet? of i would have to relock my bootloader and flashh the stock recovery before i can recieve the ota...?
Since you have flashed a custom recovery, you'll have to flash back the original recovery in order to do a ota.
It doesn't matter if your rooted or if you have a unlocked boot loader.
BTW, You will loose root if you don't use ota keeper from the market.
Sent from my Xperia Arc
mazlano27 said:
Hi, i just rooted my nexus 7, with custom recovery and unlocked bootloader. Just wanna know will i still recieve ota from google for my tablet? of i would have to relock my bootloader and flashh the stock recovery before i can recieve the ota...?
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First question is why would you care? Its not like there are OTA's happening all the time. there has been basically one OTA since the device first came out and most people got it as soon as they started to use their device.
Second, if you have a custom recovery, that will stop it from working.
IF you put the recovery back, the question of if you will lose Root or not really depends on the OTA type. Most OTA's are incremental, meaning they only contain the changes of the system, not the whole system. If it is an incremental, unless there is something in the OTA that seeks out and removes root, it most likely will not affect it. However, if you have made any real changes to the system (removed system programs) the OTA may fail to run as it assumes everything in a normal system is there.
IF the OTA is a full system update like what the Kindle Fire was doing for a long time, it will flush the complete system area and load a new one, that effectively removes root since when it is done, it is no longer physically there. OTA Root keeper won't help you in those cases since the entire system area get wiped. Getting root back is trivial though as hard as it was originally.
I'd tend to think that the OTA's will be incremental... and I see little need or desire by Google to be hunting down root since it is a Nexus device and it is designed to allow for that. Its not like it is a phone like device where the Wireless operator is having a cow as to whether or not you gained access... its supposed to have that kind of access.
However, it really doesn't matter. When the next OTA comes out, there will be a number of devs which will take it apart and release an update you can use with the recovery you currently have and root and will keep root just fine. these typically get released within hours that someone notices a new OTA in the wild and sometimes you can get it before you actually even have a chance to get the real OTA over the wire.
So not a real big deal. I'd just stay where you are and when one comes out watch to see what gets released to mimic it.
Note changing the state of the bootloader will wipe your device. Unlocking will wipe it and locking it will wipe it. You are best off, unlocking it and just leaving it that way.
Should I wait to unlock and root if I want to get Marshmallow or is there a way to get it unlocked and rooted?
I would think as long as you do not stray from the stock software you would still get the OTA update. I do not think unlocking the bootloader and simply rooting the phone would prevent the OTA but I could be wrong.
campbellc1052 said:
I would think as long as you do not stray from the stock software you would still get the OTA update. I do not think unlocking the bootloader and simply rooting the phone would prevent the OTA but I could be wrong.
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Would rooting and then updating break something though? I thought I may have read that somewhere on here.
I just looked into it a little bit more and I think as long as you do not flash a non-stock recovery image you should just be able to disable any system modifications such as xposed and unroot and the update would come through. You can probably find more information on this on google or the moto forums.
Im sure the devs will capture the OTA and make a flashable version, that's usually what happens. It usually doesnt take more than a day after the OTA to do it.
My plan is to wait until after Marshmallow is out before unlocking the bootloader if rooting. Since we have a unlock available we don't have to worry about updates breaking exploits so I am in no rush. The phone is pretty amazing even without root. Once Marsh is out I will test drive a bit and go from there. It could take a week before a dev drops the update or it could take hours... you never know.
Hmmmmm well I'm unlocked and rooted with TWRP..
But there is a Back to Stock zip..
So once Marshmallow comes out ,I'll just go back to Stock and take the OTA...
ttkyles said:
Hmmmmm well I'm unlocked and rooted with TWRP..
But there is a Back to Stock zip..
So once Marshmallow comes out ,I'll just go back to Stock and take the OTA...
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Yeah, if you have already done it I'm sure someone can assist in getting you the files needed. Even if a dev can walk me through I don't mind pulling it for you. Maybe there will be a back to stock using the marshmallow image then just reroot after installing twrp and you are good to go
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I just looked into it a little bit more and I think as long as you do not flash a non-stock recovery image you should just be able to disable any system modifications such as xposed and unroot and the update would come through. You can probably find more information on this on google or the moto forums.
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Root breaks the ability to take an OTA, even using the supersu unroot feature the OTA will fail. The only way to take an OTA is to flash a fully stock system and recovery.
BladeRunner said:
Root breaks the ability to take an OTA, even using the supersu unroot feature the OTA will fail. The only way to take an OTA is to flash a fully stock system and recovery.
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From what I understand it's not so much root that affects the ability to take an OTA it is the bootloader flag and recovery image. Also I think that while a new OTA would completely overwrite the system directory, since we can unlock bootloader, you can just re-flash SuperSU without issue.
I have to say that I'm a bit confused because Motorola have stated that unlocking the bootloader won't affect OTA updates here - https://motorola-global-portal.cust...tail/a_id/91999/p/1449,8620/kw/bootloader OTA
Can anyone clear this up for sure? I'd say a custom recovery would definitely affect them but not just unlocking the bootloader.
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I have to say that I'm a bit confused because Motorola have stated that unlocking the bootloader won't affect OTA updates here - https://motorola-global-portal.cust...tail/a_id/91999/p/1449,8620/kw/bootloader OTA
Can anyone clear this up for sure? I'd say a custom recovery would definitely affect them but not just unlocking the bootloader.
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That's right...unlocking the bootloader alone won't stop an OTA. The custom recovery will be the issue. Basically if you're rooted and running TWRP all you have to do is follow the instructions in the Return To Stock thread and you're good to go for an OTA. Its a pretty simple process.
Hi all,
I tried searching for it here and in other sources but couldn't find anything that would help since this is an unlocked version.
I am not getting any updates or the Android 10 update and its already end of February, is this normal?
FYI the phone was purchased unlocked in the US but I'm living in Jordan.
Give it a check whether your device does actually get any updates using Frija here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/s10-plus/how-to/tool-frija-samsung-firmware-downloader-t3910594/
Just need to find the correct CSC.
If there is a new firmware it means your device some how couldnt get OTA to work properly. you may wanna check whether your device's knox is void.
All how-to mentioned above can be found in xda.
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Give it a check whether your device does actually get any updates using Frija here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/s10-plus/how-to/tool-frija-samsung-firmware-downloader-t3910594/
Just need to find the correct CSC.
If there is a new firmware it means your device some how couldnt get OTA to work properly. you may wanna check whether your device's knox is void.
All how-to mentioned above can be found in xda.
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Thanks!
So I checked it on Frija as you said and it turns out there is a software update (Android 10) for my phone. The problem is that I got some updates after purchasing but now it is stuck on November security update. Do you recommend I wait for an OTA or maybe flash it manually?
Of123 said:
Thanks!
So I checked it on Frija as you said and it turns out there is a software update (Android 10) for my phone. The problem is that I got some updates after purchasing but now it is stuck on November security update. Do you recommend I wait for an OTA or maybe flash it manually?
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Lets go with some more checks to make sure your phone is still OTA-able
1. Manually check for update: go to Settings -> Software Update -> Download and install see if you can get any updates. If you are on a VPN or proxy, try without it just in case the update server somehow gets blocked (doubt that. but... lets give it a try)
2. Go to download mode: Vol down + Bixby + Power combination and check the Knox status. if your knox is intact you should see something like Warranty void 0x0. If its 0x1 then your Knox is void and this is permanent Samsung makes sure of that. Unless you get a mainboard replaced, i dont think you are able to get OTA working again.
3. Use Samsung SmartSwitch on PC (with your phone connected) see if it can update your phone, the "official" way.
3b. Or try flashing a latest stock firmware, again, stock firmware, with Odin. you must use the HOME_CSC... not CSC... to keep existing apps and data. Then wait for the next update see if OTA works.
Flashing a stock firmware should not void your Knox nor cause any problems. Just be careful of the risk of losing exising data.
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Lets go with some more checks to make sure your phone is still OTA-able
1. Manually check for update: go to Settings -> Software Update -> Download and install see if you can get any updates. If you are on a VPN or proxy, try without it just in case the update server somehow gets blocked (doubt that. but... lets give it a try)
2. Go to download mode: Vol down + Bixby + Power combination and check the Knox status. if your knox is intact you should see something like Warranty void 0x0. If its 0x1 then your Knox is void and this is permanent Samsung makes sure of that. Unless you get a mainboard replaced, i dont think you are able to get OTA working again.
3. Use Samsung SmartSwitch on PC (with your phone connected) see if it can update your phone, the "official" way.
3b. Or try flashing a latest stock firmware, again, stock firmware, with Odin. you must use the HOME_CSC... not CSC... to keep existing apps and data. Then wait for the next update see if OTA works.
Flashing a stock firmware should not void your Knox nor cause any problems. Just be careful of the risk of losing exising data.
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So
1. Phone says it's up to date
2. Download mode shows that warranty is intact "0 and 0x000
3. Smartswitch didnt show any updates
3b. I still did not try this, its been a long time since i flashed any software on a samsung phone (since the S2), i guess i might give it a try??
Of123 said:
So
1. Phone says it's up to date
2. Download mode shows that warranty is intact "0 and 0x000
3. Smartswitch didnt show any updates
3b. I still did not try this, its been a long time since i flashed any software on a samsung phone (since the S2), i guess i might give it a try??
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Hmmm then maybe i was guessing wrong the whole time. maybe theres nothing wrong with your phone. its your unlocked (unbrand) us. normally carriers (brand ones) would be pushing updates faster. maybe you will need to wait for samsung to push the updates for unbrand phones, which could be usually slower. am not sure.
maybe you might wanna go with the flashing option. you using stock firmware so there shouldnt be any risks and would be pretty easy do to just follow the steps.
sorry i wasnt helpful enough mate
Edit: just wanna share 1 more thing i been suffering with latest update. if you upgrade to 10 and one ui 2.0, android (and/or samsung) has completely blocked using custom fonts. gxfonts wings or other theming apps no longer works with changing fonts. so if you re using custom fonts it will survive the update just make sure you dont change it or you will lose it. am almost abt to give up knox to go root now.
alex.do said:
Hmmm then maybe i was guessing wrong the whole time. maybe theres nothing wrong with your phone. its your unlocked (unbrand) us. normally carriers (brand ones) would be pushing updates faster. maybe you will need to wait for samsung to push the updates for unbrand phones, which could be usually slower. am not sure.
maybe you might wanna go with the flashing option. you using stock firmware so there shouldnt be any risks and would be pretty easy do to just follow the steps.
sorry i wasnt helpful enough mate
Edit: just wanna share 1 more thing i been suffering with latest update. if you upgrade to 10 and one ui 2.0, android (and/or samsung) has completely blocked using custom fonts. gxfonts wings or other theming apps no longer works with changing fonts. so if you re using custom fonts it will survive the update just make sure you dont change it or you will lose it. am almost abt to give up knox to go root now.
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Thanks a lot mate, you've helped by showing me that there's nothing wrong.
As with any update there are always problems, so considering to just keep waiting for the OTA for now, it's not like there are new features in it, Samsung already have everything you could ever think of.
alex.do said:
Hmmm then maybe i was guessing wrong the whole time. maybe theres nothing wrong with your phone. its your unlocked (unbrand) us. normally carriers (brand ones) would be pushing updates faster. maybe you will need to wait for samsung to push the updates for unbrand phones, which could be usually slower. am not sure.
maybe you might wanna go with the flashing option. you using stock firmware so there shouldnt be any risks and would be pretty easy do to just follow the steps.
sorry i wasnt helpful enough mate
Edit: just wanna share 1 more thing i been suffering with latest update. if you upgrade to 10 and one ui 2.0, android (and/or samsung) has completely blocked using custom fonts. gxfonts wings or other theming apps no longer works with changing fonts. so if you re using custom fonts it will survive the update just make sure you dont change it or you will lose it. am almost abt to give up knox to go root now.
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I'm checking Sammobile and Frija for the firmware for my specific csc and couldn't find it anywhere. Is it ok to flash another country's firmware?