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*Music issues thread*

I thought I would start a thread for those experiencing music play-back issues.
I get 'skipping' when playing back music, but the really annoying thing is that sometimes it does not occur at all. This means I cannot, by process of elimination, determine what the cause is. Today I listened to an album with no problems at all, but last night the same album was skipping very badly - so file type cannot be to blame (it was AAC anyway).
If anyone else is having similar problems, please post and detail your phone model and network.
I have the graphite model on Orange. I have alerted HTC tech support to this problem and am awaiting a response.
Thanks.

Well, I still get intermittant skipping during the beginning of tracks! This is VERY frustrating, especially as I cannot pin down the reason and some people on here seem to have no problems at all. So my music player is effectively useless. I hope the update addresses this issue, but something tells me it won't...

Sorry but I have no problems at all really. Maybe a bit of hiss at the very lowest volumes but other than that I have happily replaced my ipod touch

simcarloc said:
Well, I still get intermittant skipping during the beginning of tracks!
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I get the same problem, but only when i listen to one song and it changes to the next. If i select another song theirs no skipping.

I get the same problem, but only when i listen to one song and it changes to the next. If i select another song theirs no skipping.
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Exactly the same here, does anyone out there have a clue why this is happening?

I have this problem too - Hero on Orange in the UK.
I have stuttering with BT playback and also the 'stretching' problem where a track goes off-key, like a dying 1980's walkman. Have tried turning off Wifi/Mobile/GPS but still occurs. Is better if the phone is 12 inches away from the BT headphones, but that kind of sucks.

Are you using bluetooth?
I found that having wifi turned on while using bluetooth caused stuttering, and this was fixed by turning off the wifi.

There are a variety of different issues you may encounter. For those having stuttering issues at the start of a track, are you using the stock SD card supplied with the phone? I think that is only a class 2 SD card, which provides a lower transfer rate which some people think can hobble things - particularly if you have other SD things going on like apps2sd and swapper. I have a 16GB class 6 card installed and haven't noticed any stuttering.
Cutting other background tasks such as Twitter (or at least dialling it back from an update every 5 minutes) may help things.
YMMV.

I've had a few Heroes now and only my most recent one had a stutter problem. The apps and settings were set to be the same on each phone. The MP3s were the same on the same card. I have no idea why one phone would have problems like that when the others didn't.
Happily, I applied the latest Rom and based on listening to half an hour of music last night it seems to be fine now.
Everything works better with this ROM it seems so look forward to release / get flashing.

I can confirm that since installing the Modaco update ROM, I no longer experience skipping/interferance. I have not listened to a large amount of music so it's early days, but things are looking good!
For people's information, I have a class 6 16gb card and yet I still used to get problems. So I think SD cards are not the source of the problem - especially since the update appears to have cured the problem.
Thanks.

I get stuttering and tempo changes over bluetooth using 2.73.405.5 (MCR 2.0), ie. the latest 'official' ROM, AFAIK.
Mid-tune stuttering seems to be down to weak BT transmission, i.e. if I turn my head to the left whilst cycling, I get stutter, if I look forward, it's OK. If I have the handset in one pocket (nearest the BT headphone receiver) no stutter, if I have the handset in the other pocket, I get lots of stutter.
All of this with BT headphones that worked flawlessly with my iPhone 2G...
Hope this gets resolved soon (are you reading HTC?) or the phone going back to Orange for a Nokia N900

I had major stuttering at the start of almost every track with the original ROM. Although as for the OP sometimes it would be fine. Usually it was resolved by a reboot, but not always.
The latest ROM is a lot better (I have installed Generic 2.73.405.5, not MoDaCo's Customer ROM).
There is still occasional stuttering at the start of tracks though when the phone has been on for a long time and I have been making phone calls (the Phone and People apps do not seem to ever shut down once they have been opened - maybe this is the cause), but a reboot now ALWAYS solves it.
Syncing apps also cause a tiny stutter so tweak your apps like Peep etc so as not to be syncing every few minutes.
So, HTC have gotten some of the way there, but they could still improve things from here. Let's hope the next update sorts it (although we're still waiting for 2.73.405.5 to be officially released so who knows when the next one will be?)
Dave

Huge Battery Drain Culprit on Official Froyo

System Process Suspend. I noticed it runs at a constant 30% until i restart my phone. Anyone else having this problem or even know what event triggers this?
Flash is nice and all, but its not enough to compensate for all the crap froyo is dishing out.
so far my issues with this are wifi not connecting, any audio out ( mp3 or stream ) sounds like utter crap, and now this battery drain.

crunchyevo said:
System Process Suspend. I noticed it runs at a constant 30% until i restart my phone. Anyone else having this problem or even know what event triggers this?
Flash is nice and all, but its not enough to compensate for all the crap froyo is dishing out.
so far my issues with this are wifi not connecting, any audio out ( mp3 or stream ) sounds like utter crap, and now this battery drain.
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I am not having any of these issues at all, my wifi connects, my battery doesn't drain like crazy, and my Pandora sounds like I am in a concert hall!!
Were you rooted before the update? Have you tried factory reset?

nope i was never rooted. i dunno, i search around the interwebs and it seems the things i am mentioning are common occurances to froyo.
however, none of these have an answer of why it happens in the first place, besides the streaming audio part.
its funny how for the past month or so that people have reported these problems to google, they do not even give it the customary "taking it seriously" line.
so has no one noticed their locally stored music sounds flat also?? this is the one part that intrigues me since that was how i first noticed the music quality suffered.

my music sounds fine with froyo :\ however i am on a custom rom not stock froyo. Also have no wifi problems and battery so far is on par with 2.1 (was hoping for a big increase in life but oh well least it doesnt seem worse to me)

crunchyevo said:
System Process Suspend. I noticed it runs at a constant 30% until i restart my phone. Anyone else having this problem or even know what event triggers this?
Flash is nice and all, but its not enough to compensate for all the crap froyo is dishing out.
so far my issues with this are wifi not connecting, any audio out ( mp3 or stream ) sounds like utter crap, and now this battery drain.
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Looks like for me the initial battery drain was because Market was syncing the apps. Go to Market, menu, downloads - do you see all your apps, or just paid apps? If you only see paid apps there may be some kind of sync going on between the actual installed apps and the market service. I had a lot of apps, so it took almost a day for all apps to show up. Once they did, the battery was about the same as with 2.1.
Also Market was slow throughout the "syncing period" as well.

Pandora does have two settings now, high or regular quality. After I updated to 2.2 and used it for the first time, it sounded like crap. Checked settings and it was set to the lower quality output to conserve data/power etc. I switched to the high quality and it's been back to normal.

hahaha what version are you running 2.1 2.2 cause for me i get better sound with low quality over the headphone jack then i did with high quality.
for the op i noticed a big increase in battery life with froyo maybe do a factory reset or start removing certain apps maybe remove your task killer

this sucks man

maybe this is the cause
http://www.droid-life.com/2010/08/05/new-facebook-update-is-draining-batteries/

i do not think it is the facebook app, i dont use facebook.
the main source of my battery woes is that suspend process, i saw a few posts about it, but it seems like either there is no solution or it just happens to us unlucky few so no one cares.
just out of curiosity, if you were to use systempanel and look at the percentage of that process, what are your values? my phone was on for like 6-7 hrs and i got like 2hrs of cpu time on this process.
the wifi thing is very well reported in about every forum out there and the single point failure has been the update to froyo.
the audio issue is still a mystery to me because everyone else has issues when it comes to streaming, however i also get it with local mp3's.
i am starting to extremely dislike the qc of googles product. it does not seem to be a sense integration issue, so the fault lies in froyo it seems.

Pandora / Streaming Audio fix
tinyurl.com/33cmqbt

that is only for rooted phones

We don't have this issue in CyanogenMod...

that may be the case.
correct me if I am wrong but that is not possibilityfor people who did not root beforehand

I for one have noticed a slight decline in battery performance with froyo. What I've noticed is that I have a lot of apps opening in the background that somehow are not getting closed by autostarts or autokiller. I may have just not targetted every instance where they're triggered to open in the background but this was not happening in 2.1.

Facebook 1.3 definitely caused a huge battery decline for me. After I turned off notifications in the facebook settings the battery went back to normal. It's causing partial wake time, which is killing the battery. According to the android app facebook page they are working on fixing it.

i thought i read somewhere that froyo is not working with task killers and stuff like that? correct me if i am wrong

ok so another observation based on a suggestion from another forum.
when i look at the systempanel app for my cpu usage. i will never drop below 500.
some have stated that they use setcpu for force it under and it will not.
this still has nothing to do with my crazy suspend process chugging along, but it doesnt help my battery life any either

crunchyevo said:
i am starting to extremely dislike the qc of googles product. it does not seem to be a sense integration issue, so the fault lies in froyo it seems.
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Personally, I think that everything that's at fault isn't Googles code, but porting that code to different hardware then what it was designed for (Nexus one).

mistersquirrle said:
Personally, I think that everything that's at fault isn't Googles code, but porting that code to different hardware then what it was designed for (Nexus one).
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i feel that does fall under quality control of a release, but you are possibly right, they just half assed the port.

Music player glitch on i9000m... absolutely fed up... solutions?

Hey all,
I typically never register and make my first a complaint/help post, but this problem has been plaguing me ever since I first got my Galaxy S Vibrant from Bell (i9000m) a week ago and now I'm pretty much desperate in looking for a solution, as music listening happens to be a HUGE part of my Smartphone experience. I love the phone with everything else thus far after coming over from iphone 3G and definitely wouldn't want to change the phone just because of this problem... but it's becoming way too persistent for me that I'm actually considering switching back to Apple (even though I don't want to).
Here's the problem: The music player seems absolutely incapable of smooth playback of music for whatever reason. In my ~10 years of music phone experience (I got the first ever mp3 phone released here in Canada - the Samsung Uproar, many years ago actually), this phone is the first to have such problems. Here are some symptoms and settings, music playing on both the stock music player as well as btunes that I downloaded and paid for:
- MP3/AAC files stutter/skip seemingly at random. Not majorly but for half a second or so at different parts of the song. Happens somewhat consistently, every 4 minutes or so, but at random.
- Here's an interesting thing; the ability for FLAC playback is one of the main reasons why I purchased this phone, and so far it's incapable of doing so properly. EACH AND EVERY FLAC song I have stutter/skips at a certain point for 3/4th of a second... and the funny thing is that this seems to occur at exact same point of each song.
- Before any of you question the point, 95% of these are self-ripped FLAC/mp3 files from my own cd's, using EAC. I'm an audiophile and know well how to rip songs properly, so I know this is 100% NOT the problem of the files itself... especially since they play perfectly in every single music player software/mp3 player/cellphone that I've ever used.
- This happens in both stock touchwiz and launcher pro UI that I'm currently using.
- Happens in both stock player and btunes as mentioned earlier. Interesting thing about FLAC files; I mentioned before each files skip at same parts of the song... interestingly the stock player and btunes seem to skip with these files at DIFFERENT parts of the song, yet the part where they stutter/skip is still the same for each player. So for example, Song A would skip on stock player at 3:31 point of the song each time, but that same Song A would skip on btunes at 2:23 point of the song every time...
- I do have beautiful weather widget running, and will test it out soon to see if this is the problem (haven't got around to doing so yet and don't have headphones with me atm)... but even if it is, it would seem appaling to me that a widget and a simple resource-light music player can't coexist... doesn't make sense to me and kind of misses the point of a high end smartphone.
- I'm not going to use Airplane mode as a solution, since this pretty much misses the point of the smartphone as I've said above. Besides, I've tried it already and music STILL stuttered/skipped!
- As I have high end headphones/IEMs such as Audio Technica ESW10JPN and Shure SE530, it's definitely not the headphones, and they work flawlessly in any other player.
- Drag and drop, media player, Kies, you name it... every method of transfer of songs gives the same problem.
- Internal SD card, External SD card... doesn't seem to make a lick of difference either.
- I have the stock JG9 firmware that my phone came with. I would download the new one that is apparently out for my i9000m version (JH2) if Kies ever detects the damn thing (it's never there as an update)...
So any clues on how to solve this annoying problem. As I've said, this is the ONLY problem I've had with my unit (my GPS is fine, and phone runs lag free) and its a darn shame because music playback is a huge part of my smartphone use. Is this likely a firmware problem? Or just a problem with memory use? If I don't have to I'd REALLY rather not root the phone but if that solves it for certain then I'm actually willing to look into it... that's how desperate I am to solve this problem.
I'd appreciate any input in this matter... thanks in advance.

I had the same problem, and pinned it down to one of my widgets hogging all the resources. As soon as I disabled the widget, playback was fine again.

another tip
disable media scan

Tachikoma_kun said:
I had the same problem, and pinned it down to one of my widgets hogging all the resources. As soon as I disabled the widget, playback was fine again.
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I'll be trying this out later on, but seems really sad to me for a phone of this calibre in not being able to handle that if this was true...
AllGamer said:
another tip
disable media scan
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Just a guess but this would require rooting, won't it?

yes, as you need to install another piece of software to do the trick
but you can always Un-root, if you ever need to send your phone for warranty

K_19 said:
I'll be trying this out later on, but seems really sad to me for a phone of this calibre in not being able to handle that if this was true...
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Probably more bad coding of the free widgets rather than the phone not being capable. I can write a 4 line .vbs script that will cane most PC's and drag them to their knees.

Have you done a factory reset? No problems here, love the music player. I have beautiful home also
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mine doesnt skip at all even while using gps.. i would recommend that you check your sd card.. maybe bad or too slow..

that is indeed a posibility.
in older devices low speed SD cards can cause data skip
but now in days most SD cards are pretty fast, so the problem shouldn't be there, yet you'll never know, so that's the posibility

Nah. My external micro SD is a class 6 Sandisk, and I'm sure the internal one isn't all that bad either... comes with the phone after all. Pretty sure it isn't the SD Cards as the problem happens on both. Tried the music player without any widgets running, with the phone connected through headphone jack into AUX of my car for about 6 minutes at lunch... and it actually played pretty smoothly... but I'll have to try that out more extensively later, plus try it with FLAC files as well.
Haven't done a factory reset (apparently it doesn't do much for ppl who's had same problems), but I'll be flashing to the JH2 later on today so I'm guessing that'll be more or less the same thing... hoping that it makes some sort of difference.

Alright, I was able to install JH2 firmware and play around with turning off the widgets and such... and it did not do ANYTHING with the FLAC Playback problems. The same tracks always still skip at the same place in the song, and no FLAC files seems to play 100% smoothly... and the tags are still broken. Turning off the widgets don't stop these glitches. MP3's on the other hand seems perfect for the most part unless I missed something... At this point, I'm just inclined to believe that FLAC support for Galaxy at this time is heavily glitched. Does anyone else here have perfect FLAC playback? Totally smooth with perfect tags and everything? If you do, please post the firmware and settings and all that.
Ugh, at least even iphone 4 had a perfect music player and a perfect lossless support, although it's ALAC instead of FLAC... strongly considering it now if the player is going to remain glitched like this. The phone is so excellent besides this, that I'd hate to do that... but music listening just happens to be a big part of my smartphone use.

other users have reported the same findings about FLAC
this is just a software thing, it'll be fixed in no time

K_19 said:
Alright, I was able to install JH2 firmware and play around with turning off the widgets and such... and it did not do ANYTHING with the FLAC Playback problems. The same tracks always still skip at the same place in the song, and no FLAC files seems to play 100% smoothly... and the tags are still broken. Turning off the widgets don't stop these glitches. MP3's on the other hand seems perfect for the most part unless I missed something... At this point, I'm just inclined to believe that FLAC support for Galaxy at this time is heavily glitched. Does anyone else here have perfect FLAC playback? Totally smooth with perfect tags and everything? If you do, please post the firmware and settings and all that.
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I have the same thing too.. I suspect its a scheduling issue or buffering issue. Not sure about your tag issues though, as they work fine for me

AllGamer said:
other users have reported the same findings about FLAC
this is just a software thing, it'll be fixed in no time
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My biggest concern is that FLAC playback is solely Samsung's responsibility apparently (Android apparently doesn't natively support FLAC, so I don't expect Froyo to do much), and I really doubt that it's one of their priorities for fixing at the moment (especially with the whole GPS issue). It's up to Sammy to fix it, but I can't say I have too much faith.
Well, since I've got an android phone and all I think I'll root this phone and play around with the setCPU stuff, and see if that helps. This fixed it for one of the users from what I've read.

I've got no problems playing any FLAC file on my default Samsung player very smooth. I haven't rooted my phone or ever installed custom firmwares. I am running the new official UK firmware XXJM1.
Details
Sandisk Class 4 4GB card.
FLAC Bitrate: 1411Kbps ~ Lossless Audio Codec File

Wow... well, it's at least a good news that someone else can playback FLAC smoothly without any problems... and it also means that if this is true, then its more than likely that this is purely a firmware issue... which means it's more than possible for Samsung to fix this.

Factory reset solved media issues for several people I know of. So if you didn't reset your phone when you got it, do so now and chances are you are rid of the problem.
Sent from my personal Dis-organizer GT-I9000

mickeko said:
Factory reset solved media issues for several people I know of. So if you didn't reset your phone when you got it, do so now and chances are you are rid of the problem.
Sent from my personal Dis-organizer GT-I9000
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I've flashed to a new firmware since I first got it. Wouldn't this technically be the same thing as factory reset since the initial firmware/contents got wiped out clean and replaced by a brand new one? And even after that unfortunately the audio problems still remain for me...

Try putting the music onto external sd card. Had audio skipping problems after installing one click click lag fix and went crazy trying to figure it out.
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ickyboo said:
Try putting the music onto external sd card. Had audio skipping problems after installing one click click lag fix and went crazy trying to figure it out.
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It's been on external SD card since the second day. Doesn't seem to matter for me at all since the files skip the same way on both internal and external card.
I'm going to go to the Bell Store anyway today (to discuss phone plan stuff), so I think I'll take my SD card with me and try the demo models to see if there are same playback problems on those. I really doubt this is due to hardware but hey, since I'll be there anyway, why not.

Audio pops and ticks

Hope it's alright to ask this here, as I know these forums are mostly about rooting and such. Just thought this would be the best place in contrast to other Kindle forums where hardly anyone is tech savvy.
I've been having a strange and highly irritating problem. In a few games, such as Battleheart, Where's My Water and Jelly Defense -- I hear these popping and ticking kind of sounds over the game music. It's not really distortion either, it sounds more like an audio buffer problem. It also only seems to occur on these specific game apps too and everyone else I've asked said this is not normal. Watching movies, listening to music and other apps all sound fine, so I know the speakers can't be blown or anything of that sort. It's noticable with and without headphones on too, just to be clear.
I've tried factory resets, reinstalling the games various times, disabling wifi, ES Task Manager to kill background apps and basically everything I could think of. I know the next step is simply exchanging or returning, but I wanted to see if there was perhaps something I'm overlooking before I deal with all that. I can't honestly tell if it's software or hardware related, or why this only happens with certain apps.

I have never heard of this problem but it does sound like it might have something to do with the device itself...

Alright, I recorded what I'm experiencing using a mic. The first 20 seconds is the menu music for Battleheart, the second half is Where's My Water. If you listen, you should be able to hear the "tick tick tick tick" I was speaking of. Almost sounds like distortion or lag but again, this only happens with a few game apps and nothing else. Regardless of volume. I'm stumped.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7004074/ticking.mp3

imagine the game is not 100% compatible with the KF ?

I don't think that's the case because I asked a few other people with these games, and they said they didn't experience this. It's also never mentioned once in reviews for these apps either. They're both quite popular too.

the others have this games also on the KF ?
b.t.w. if you'r a gamer this could be interesting for you and maybe the solution (if you'r rooted):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1412663

Yes, I checked with only other Fire users. They said they didn't hear any sound glitches, or perhaps they just didn't notice.
That does appear tempting but really, I'm not interested in rooting or taking the chance as I'm fine with the device as is aside from these problems.

it sounds like you got a bad one ...

Yeah, I thought so. I wonder why this problem only persists with certain game apps though. Does KF by default have hardware acceleration? Perhaps mine is simply not working.
I just remembered that I had also tried "Puzzle Quest 2 (Kindle Fire Edition)" and it ran poorly, forgot about that. It was pretty slow and choppy, with no other reviews mentioning this. It'd be nice if the OS worked like Windows and I could simply check/uncheck hardware acceleration just to be sure it's enabled.

i assume you mean graphics hardware acceleration
the kf uses software graphics by default
it has a hardware graphics which will only be used if the app or game can activate it
with the method in my other thread (link above) i force all gl-based graphics to hardware

[Q] Pandora Stuttering on Bluetooth. Stock music app is fine.

I use bluetooth when listening to music in my car. Pandora is my music player of choice. The problem is that when Pandora plays over bluetooth, it skips. It's like the song pauses for a second and then comes back. This only happens on Pandora. Stock Music App, Apallo, Now Playing, Even Netflix all play fine over bluetooth. This SAME issue existed on my Galaxy S3 as well...
What I've tried:
Disabling Wifi
Disabling GPS
Rebooting (Just in case)
Wiped Device
I'm on the stock rooted rom. Any ideas?

TopHATTwaffle said:
I use bluetooth when listening to music in my car. Pandora is my music player of choice. The problem is that when Pandora plays over bluetooth, it skips. It's like the song pauses for a second and then comes back. This only happens on Pandora. Stock Music App, Apallo, Now Playing, Even Netflix all play fine over bluetooth. This SAME issue existed on my Galaxy S3 as well...
What I've tried:
Disabling Wifi
Disabling GPS
Rebooting (Just in case)
Wiped Device
I'm on the stock rooted rom. Any ideas?
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Ive had this issue on JB on all my android devices. I am running a 4.4 rom on my n7 2013 and it streams perfectly. BT stuttering has been a known issue since JB came out. It happens for me personally no matter what the media app is. Its the a2dp. Not much you can do about it user wise.

yakitori2 said:
Ive had this issue on JB on all my android devices. I am running a 4.4 rom on my n7 2013 and it streams perfectly. BT stuttering has been a known issue since JB came out. It happens for me personally no matter what the media app is. Its the a2dp. Not much you can do about it user wise.
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I had no issues with Pandora stuttering on my Note 2. I have no issues with podcasts (Pocketcasts app) stuttering on my Note 3, nor any issues with stock music player stuttering on Note 3. I DO have stuttering with Pandora on my Note 3.
So, no, it's not just a2dp, it's Pandora. And it would seem that it's Pandora on 4.3, while Pandora on 4.1 works fine. It's possible the track I tried in stock music player wasn't high enough bitrate (Pandora One set to HQ 192kbit) and that it's really an issue with high bitrate over a2dp on 4.3. I'll have to check with a few higher quality mp3s.
I noticed this first after flashing Beans' rom and running from that. I just restored to stock and will see if that fixes the situation, though from the original poster it sounds like this won't go away on stock.

bigillz said:
I had no issues with Pandora stuttering on my Note 2. I have no issues with podcasts (Pocketcasts app) stuttering on my Note 3, nor any issues with stock music player stuttering on Note 3. I DO have stuttering with Pandora on my Note 3.
So, no, it's not just a2dp, it's Pandora. And it would seem that it's Pandora on 4.3, while Pandora on 4.2 works fine. It's possible the track I tried in stock music player wasn't high enough bitrate (Pandora One set to HQ 192kbit) and that it's really an issue with high bitrate over a2dp on 4.3. I'll have to check with a few higher quality mp3s.
I noticed this first after flashing Beans' rom and running from that. I just restored to stock and will see if that fixes the situation, though from the original poster it sounds like this won't go away on stock.
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It IS a2dp. Maybe be specific to certain apps from but it IS a2dp. 4.3 didnt fix it...4.3.1 on aosp didnt fix it. You will get worse skipping if connected to wifi AND bluetooth simultaneously. It does it worse when the screen is off. To prove for you...the only way to get it to stop on my tablet was to go to developer settings and check stay awake on charger. Then plug into charger....stream all you want and it wont skip much at all...on pandora or any other app. All of my JB devices did it. People would always chime in saying "this doesnt happen to me...no probs here". Id be willing to bet money it DID happen and they didnt use streaming enough to experience it.
https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=39633
4.4 fixed it btw.

yakitori2 said:
It IS a2dp. Maybe be specific to certain apps from but it IS a2dp. 4.3 didnt fix it...4.3.1 on aosp didnt fix it. You will get worse skipping if connected to wifi AND bluetooth simultaneously. It does it worse when the screen is off. To prove for you...the only way to get it to stop on my tablet was to go to developer settings and check stay awake on charger. Then plug into charger....stream all you want and it wont skip much at all...on pandora or any other app. All of my JB devices did it. People would always chime in saying "this doesnt happen to me...no probs here". Id be willing to bet money it DID happen and they didnt use streaming enough to experience it.
https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=39633
4.4 fixed it btw.
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It's not just a2dp that is broken for everything. It may have to do with bitrate, I haven't tested enough. Some things, like streaming 128kbps mp3 or podcasts (96-128kb mp3) work fine with no stuttering. 192kbps Pandora One streaming hitches for a fraction of a second every minute or two.
In any case, since you found that keeping full power on fixed it, it's likely there's some other workaround possible to keep pandora at a priority that prevents whatever sleep case might be the cause. Have to dig around more.

bigillz said:
It's not just a2dp that is broken for everything. It may have to do with bitrate, I haven't tested enough. Some things, like streaming 128kbps mp3 or podcasts (96-128kb mp3) work fine with no stuttering. 192kbps Pandora One streaming hitches for a fraction of a second every minute or two.
In any case, since you found that keeping full power on fixed it, it's likely there's some other workaround possible to keep pandora at a priority that prevents whatever sleep case might be the cause. Have to dig around more.
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dig then. I dug forever. This ate at me so much that I nearly left android altogether. 3 releases and it stuttered on my Gnex...my nexus 7...my Galaxy S4 and now my note 3. None of the updates have fixed it. Its not just pandora for me...it does the same for Play music...and was doing it for netflix too. In my cars headunit...LG soundbar...Jawbone big jambox...all of them. All my android devices running JB did it. it was introduced with JB. 4.0.4 didnt do it. JB 4.1...bam....4.1.2...persist....4.2...4.2.1...4.2.2...4.3...4.3.1...all did the same accross all my devices.
I use a2dp streaming a LOT, so you can imaging how irritating it is to have all of your devices stutter while streaming.

yakitori2 said:
dig then. I dug forever. This ate at me so much that I nearly left android altogether. 3 releases and it stuttered on my Gnex...my nexus 7...my Galaxy S4 and now my note 3. None of the updates have fixed it. Its not just pandora for me...it does the same for Play music...and was doing it for netflix too. In my cars headunit...LG soundbar...Jawbone big jambox...all of them. All my android devices running JB did it. it was introduced with JB. 4.0.4 didnt do it. JB 4.1...bam....4.1.2...persist....4.2...4.2.1...4.2.2...4.3...4.3.1...all did the same accross all my devices.
I use a2dp streaming a LOT, so you can imaging how irritating it is to have all of your devices stutter while streaming.
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I using streaming a few hours a day as well. Fortunately only Pandora is having issues right now, and that was on a custom rom. Haven't tried since reverting. And I never had any stuttering issues at all on 4.1.x on Note 2.

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I using streaming a few hours a day as well. Fortunately only Pandora is having issues right now, and that was on a custom rom. Haven't tried since reverting. And I never had any stuttering issues at all on 4.1.x on Note 2.
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well lucky you. I have. Actually I should edit my above statement. It was introduced in 4.2.x....4.1 had no issues. Im sure it will be introduced on your note 2 whenever sammy finally gets around to updating their TW to 4.3 (which will be around the time 4.4 has rolled out to most devices lol)
Ive had the same problem that over 1k people have posted as a bug in code.google.com link above. (which I encourage you to read!)
I personally believe it was introduced with BLE.
The question was asked...I gave documentation of the problem from the source (google) and people still refuse to accept the answer. lol what can ya do. c'est la vie

I get stuttering in Pandora while wired to my car, not BT. I did not have this issue on the Note 2 running any Android version (4.1-4.3). Not sure it's a BT issue at all.

akellar said:
I get stuttering in Pandora while wired to my car, not BT. I did not have this issue on the Note 2 running any Android version (4.1-4.3). Not sure it's a BT issue at all.
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lol...key words..."not sure"
refer to source above
Skipping on pandora through headjack can be caused by data handoff...poor signal...all while high quality streaming is checked in settings.
It happens through my headphones occasionally in my gym...because signal doesnt penetrate the building well.
so what do we do now? Continue the..
1 I get stuttering
2. well I dont
3. Its still stuttering
4. mines not
5. every few seconds to minutes I get a stutter/blip in music
6. doesnt happen to me on xx phone
7 its happened to me on all my JB devices since 4.2...and not 4.1...nor 4.4...and theres a source bug site with thousands of complaints..same complaint....
8. My phone never did it....therefore it doesnt exist.
and........

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lol...key words..."not sure"
refer to source above
Skipping on pandora through headjack can be caused by data handoff...poor signal...all while high quality streaming is checked in settings.
It happens through my headphones occasionally in my gym...because signal doesnt penetrate the building well.
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Apparently reading isn't your strong suit but you are quick to attack. Signal is fine, full LTE. High quality isn't turned on. This isn't my first rodeo, let's relax with the know-it-all attitude.

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Apparently reading isn't your strong suit but you are quick to attack. Signal is fine, full LTE. High quality isn't turned on. This isn't my first rodeo, let's relax with the know-it-all attitude.
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Thanks for ur contribution

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Dont be a hypocrit. I posted source site (googles bug report site above) and you have still not taken the time to read it. So dont start with the "reading isnt my strongsuit" crap when youve input 1 sentence lines. How hard is it to read a sentence? You said you dont have a problem with BT on your note 2. And that your phone does this thorugh the headphone jack.
What does that have to do with BT streaming.....which (yeah I double checked) is the title of the thread.
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I said nothing of the Note 2 working with BT. My post was in regards to getting skipping in Pandora with or without BT. Since you apparently have all the answers though I'll just sit back and wait for you to provide the solution.

I fixed my skipping problem in Pandora. I first noticed the issue running Beans' ROM. I have a Pandora One subscription - I was having a fraction of a second hitch/skip/hiccup in my audio every minute or two, streaming to a Pioneer DNX9990HD head unit. I switched back to stock rom and the problem went away. After a bunch of digging, I found a post suggesting it may be the ad blocking hosts file at fault that shipped with the ROM. Fortunately, that was the case. Beans' ROM installs with a giant hosts file blocking tons of ad sites. Even though I have a Pandora subscription, some ad check / subscription check / feed query that was happening and failing was causing the hiccup. I also felt like the audio quality wasn't the HQ setting I had it on (192kbps) - I can't say for sure this was the case, but it sounded less crisp than normal. It's possible there was a background subscription check occurring and when it failed it was not using the HQ subscription audio quality. Now that I've reverted to a stock hosts file, the hiccup is gone and audio quality sounds perfect.
Yes yakitori2, android 4.3, A2DP streaming all day long, no issues whatsoever. Like I suspected, it had nothing to do with the A2DP stack.
You should also read this lovely news piece - http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/0...2dp-audio-streaming-fix-for-the-next-release/ , where Google announced in January that the next release of 4.2 (loooong ago, which would be older than our 4.3) would include a fix for the A2DP problems.
Sorry you're still having problems. You should investigate more, very likely some other issue / software on your phone is causing the problem.

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I fixed my skipping problem in Pandora. I first noticed the issue running Beans' ROM. I have a Pandora One subscription - I was having a fraction of a second hitch/skip/hiccup in my audio every minute or two, streaming to a Pioneer DNX9990HD head unit. I switched back to stock rom and the problem went away. After a bunch of digging, I found a post suggesting it may be the ad blocking hosts file at fault that shipped with the ROM. Fortunately, that was the case. Beans' ROM installs with a giant hosts file blocking tons of ad sites. Even though I have a Pandora subscription, some ad check / subscription check / feed query that was happening and failing was causing the hiccup. I also felt like the audio quality wasn't the HQ setting I had it on (192kbps) - I can't say for sure this was the case, but it sounded less crisp than normal. It's possible there was a background subscription check occurring and when it failed it was not using the HQ subscription audio quality. Now that I've reverted to a stock hosts file, the hiccup is gone and audio quality sounds perfect.
Yes yakitori2, android 4.3, A2DP streaming all day long, no issues whatsoever. Like I suspected, it had nothing to do with the A2DP stack.
You should also read this lovely news piece - http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/0...2dp-audio-streaming-fix-for-the-next-release/ , where Google announced in January that the next release of 4.2 (loooong ago, which would be older than our 4.3) would include a fix for the A2DP problems.
Sorry you're still having problems. You should investigate more, very likely some other issue / software on your phone is causing the problem.
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Yeah..I knew 4.3 was supposed to fix the a2dp bug, but it didnt on my devices. However...they were all running custom roms...and possible had ad hosts as well....I had no idea that would cause anything. Ill would look into it, but Im on 4.4 and dont have any issues at all. so..

It is a2dp + other apps running in the background. Factory reset, install only pandora - no stuttering, install some apps, start them (fill up memory) and try play in pandora - stuttering could be up to 20 times a minute. (using pandora as an example, but it affects any audio players)
Also, the receiver is important too, some receivers handle these micro pauses gracefully to a point that it's barely noticeable, others stop for 1/2 seconds makes it impossible to listen.
To conclude, the stuttering occur mostly when memory is overloaded; and screen off makes it even worse. It looks to me BT gets very low priority on phones.
P.S.
I first noticed this issue on Note 2 running stock 4.1.2

akellar said:
I get stuttering in Pandora while wired to my car, not BT. I did not have this issue on the Note 2 running any Android version (4.1-4.3). Not sure it's a BT issue at all.
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Same here! My Note 2 never skipped streaming Pandora over BT on any Android version.

I get it in both poweramp and Google music. I think someone once said it was cause of being rooted and the app doing some kind of validation check while playing. I forget how he said he stopped it. Maybe I'll try rootcloak module from xposed tonight on the way in with the music apps set in root cloak and see if they don't skip. Rootcloak hides root from whatever apps you tell it to.
Sent from my GlaDos Baked Potato

bigillz said:
I fixed my skipping problem in Pandora. I first noticed the issue running Beans' ROM. I have a Pandora One subscription - I was having a fraction of a second hitch/skip/hiccup in my audio every minute or two, streaming to a Pioneer DNX9990HD head unit. I switched back to stock rom and the problem went away. After a bunch of digging, I found a post suggesting it may be the ad blocking hosts file at fault that shipped with the ROM. Fortunately, that was the case. Beans' ROM installs with a giant hosts file blocking tons of ad sites. Even though I have a Pandora subscription, some ad check / subscription check / feed query that was happening and failing was causing the hiccup. I also felt like the audio quality wasn't the HQ setting I had it on (192kbps) - I can't say for sure this was the case, but it sounded less crisp than normal. It's possible there was a background subscription check occurring and when it failed it was not using the HQ subscription audio quality. Now that I've reverted to a stock hosts file, the hiccup is gone and audio quality sounds perfect.
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THANK YOU!!!! This solved my Note 3 problems! I got a Pandora One subscription and noticed every time the screen went off the music would stutter. The quality of the music seemed a little nutsy... I could stream Google music and other music without a problem all day. But Pandora, no matter WHAT I did, it would stutter.
I did what you said above (running CleanRom) - and restored the host file.... BAM I'm playing with the screen off with high quality.
Thanks!

bigillz said:
I also felt like the audio quality wasn't the HQ setting I had it on (192kbps) - I can't say for sure this was the case, but it sounded less crisp than normal. It's possible there was a background subscription check occurring and when it failed it was not using the HQ subscription audio quality. Now that I've reverted to a stock hosts file, the hiccup is gone and audio quality sounds perfect.
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glad to hear the 64kbps sounds "perfect" to you. wonder what the hell you were getting before?
"Audio Quality
Pandora on the Web plays 64k AAC+ for free listeners and 192kbps for Pandora One subscribers. All in-home devices play 128kbps audio, and mobile devices receive a variety of different rates depending on the capability of the device and the network they are on, but never more than 64k AAC+."
http://help.pandora.com/customer/portal/articles/90985-audio-quality
hope you understand that pandora one plays at 64k on android
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BigMcGuire said:
THANK YOU!!!! This solved my Note 3 problems! I got a Pandora One subscription and noticed every time the screen went off the music would stutter. The quality of the music seemed a little nutsy... I could stream Google music and other music without a problem all day. But Pandora, no matter WHAT I did, it would stutter.
I did what you said above (running CleanRom) - and restored the host file.... BAM I'm playing with the screen off with high quality.
Thanks!
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64k is now high quality you say?
sorry, not meaning to be a ****, but just wonder if there's a way to hack this stupid app to get anything higher than 64k on android with my pandora one subscription (cause stock app only does 64, but pandora will do 192 with the desktop user agent in Dolphin browser).