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Froyo features - some doubts

Hi,
There are are few features that were announced at I/O but I haven't seen so far:
- being able to install apps from the market on your PC.
- being able to buy music on the market.
- being able to stream music from your PC.
Were these features even announced for froyo, or are they scheduled for gingerbread? Do you guys know?

I say give it a week or two. Maybe Google is still working on getting the features out.

They said "these are some of the things they are working on for the next release" so we likely won't see these fully implemented until Gingerbread.

frandavid100 said:
Hi,
There are are few features that were announced at I/O but I haven't seen so far:
- being able to install apps from the market on your PC.
- being able to buy music on the market.
- being able to stream music from your PC.
Were these features even announced for froyo, or are they scheduled for gingerbread? Do you guys know?
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Those aren't features of FroYo only, but of www.android.com as well which is obviously not yet re-launched.

Gingerbread features or a mid update. Not in this release for sure. They said that loud and clear in the keynote.

Paul22000 said:
Those aren't features of FroYo only, but of www.android.com as well which is obviously not yet re-launched.
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That's what I meant, they depend on the market webpage but is froyo equipped to take advantage of these possible changes in the market? I mean, if it happened tomorrow; would froyo benefit from it?

frandavid100 said:
That's what I meant, they depend on the market webpage but is froyo equipped to take advantage of these possible changes in the market? I mean, if it happened tomorrow; would froyo benefit from it?
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Only the first one. The other 2 need an additional software plus an updated music player. I'm sure they wanna get this service up and running as fast as possible and we will probably get an OTA with this in the future. My best guess is that it will happen when the new market web site is released.

Thanks mate, that made it clearer. What about...?
- The application data backup. Is our apps' data being backed up now? Do developers have to change their apps to take advantage of the feature? What if we uninstall an app? Where -and how- does the user notice the feature?
- Searching within the apps' data. Does this mean that the global search will be able to find stuff inside your apps, that is, as if you hit the search button while using an app? Same as you can search something in the music app and the youtube app, even while not using them? If so, again; do developers have to modify their apps to take advantage of this feature? How does the user notice it?

Both of those require developers to use the feature in code
As for the original features, in the keynote they said "something we are working on for beyond Froyo" Which to mean could mean that its for between Froyo and Gingerbread, after all the code needed has all been added in Froyo

tomfreay said:
Both of those require developers to use the feature in code
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So, supposing a developer uses that specific feature in a certain app: would that mean that the app could only be used in 2.2 onwards? Or would older Android versions still be able to run it, albeit not using the feature?
A friend is developing a couple apps and he could use that information

lorin.bute said:
Gingerbread features or a mid update. Not in this release for sure. They said that loud and clear in the keynote.
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Yep. Before every one of these they clearly mentioned it.

frandavid100 said:
So, supposing a developer uses that specific feature in a certain app: would that mean that the app could only be used in 2.2 onwards? Or would older Android versions still be able to run it, albeit not using the feature?
A friend is developing a couple apps and he could use that information
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I'm wondering the same thing. I'm assuming that since it uses new APIs, that it could only be run on 2.2, but the features just seem not important enough to justify losing a ton of potential users.

latest update prevents you from removing sense...

ok, i just noticed, the most previous update doesnt let you turn sense off...

I was about to make a thread on this too.
Bad news, but not worried because i'm probably gonna end up rooting this baby.
The question is why?
At a glance it appears they quite literally removed the Launcher.apk.
While this is probably a good thing for people who only use HTC sense, since it won't be running in the background..
It sucks for those of us who love android with no frills.
Cmon HTC the point of all this was openness and customization, where did it all go wrong?
If somebody could provide a changelog for the update, i'd be grateful

I disabled the Sense Launcher and using Launcher Pro....

does launcher pro make the phone faster? looking to speed it up a bit, but not sure i wanna root yet( did on past 3 android phones) just no roms look worth it yet. Wish we had a aosp 2.2 or fully working 2.2 or even stock 2.1

To be more specific he meant the stock launcher can no longer be used in place of sense.
Incomplete Changelog found:
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An OTA, over-the-air maintenance release, software version 1.47.651.1, has been released!!* You will either receive a notification on the device that an update is available, or you can check for the updated version by going to Settings > System Updates > HTC software update.
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HTC EVO 4G Software version 1.47.651.1
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Update includes:
Improvements to Wi-Fi performance
Exchange Active Sync improvements, including fix to issues with new account setup, PIN policy usage and Exchange Calendar 2010 Sync
Addresses Facebook sync issue which can improve battery performance
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Download Timing:
Customers will be notified that an update is available. The download will take a couple minutes (depending on the device connection) and the install will take a couple minutes which includes an automatic power cycle. Download will take a couple minutes if in 3g coverage.
HTC servers will push the OTA update on a daily basis.
FOTA server will check for old software version and prompt once a day on units without the latest firmware until customer accepts.
WARNING - Rooted Devices:
Most likely rooted devices will not accept or even receive the update which is expected and why roots void warranty.
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topdnbass said:
Cmon HTC the point of all this was openness and customization, where did it all go wrong?
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Exactly.
It honestly seems like HTC has purposely gone the extra mile to lock us out. Perhaps for all of the emails regarding the 30fps cap.

topdnbass said:
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WARNING - Rooted Devices:
Most likely rooted devices will not accept or even receive the update which is expected and why roots void warranty.
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If only that were true. Twice or more daily. I'm forced to refuse.
Why not post it in an email, instead just pop it up top. WTF

Non-sense
Is this another issue that HTC needs emails about because I definitely want the option to turn off sense..

The thread title is misleading you can disable sense. The problem is they removed the vanilla android launcher. But you can most definitely disable sense launcher and use a third party launcher.
Sent from my EVO using Tapatalk

donatom3 said:
The thread title is misleading you can disable sense. The problem is they removed the vanilla android launcher. But you can most definitely disable sense launcher and use a third party launcher.
Sent from my EVO using Tapatalk
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Can you still do the following:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbXLsiWNqP8
I'm waiting for the EVO to ship with 2.2 & want to be able to remove sense. I know there is always rooting but it would be nice to be able to do it without concerns of voiding the warranty.

The point of this thread is that we CANT do that. Launcher isn't an option. They removed the apk.
What language should i say this in?
Well. Let's start writing those emails.
Sent from my Evo 4G

Anyway to reinstall that apk file?

What you should be saying is HTC removed the vanilla android launcher. You can still force stop sense and clear it as the default launcher. You just need to install another launcher. Some really good ones are available on the market. I think Launcher + is better than the Android one even better than the froyo one.
Sent from my EVO using Tapatalk

topdnbass said:
The point of this thread is that we CANT do that. Launcher isn't an option. They removed the apk.
What language should i say this in?
Well. Let's start writing those emails.
Sent from my Evo 4G
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Ummm, you CAN do that, just reinstall the launcher or download a different one from the market. They didn't prevent you from using a different launcher other than Sense. Just go download Helix2 which is nearly identical to the stock one plus more, or Launcher pro which super fast. If you really want the stock Laucher just ask for it and someone could probably post it.

It has always been the way it is for me now... all they did was remove the stock Launcher. All you have to do is download a new Launcher and set it as default, very simple and I've had Android for less than a week.

Can someone point me to a download link for the stock launcher apk? much appreciate it

ghos401 said:
Can someone point me to a download link for the stock launcher apk? much appreciate it
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Attached below

danknee said:
Attached below
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Thanks for "Launcher2.apk" I got "Application not installed".
Launcher Pro is in the market and works perfect..

zone23 said:
Thanks for "Launcher2.apk" I got "Application not installed".
Launcher Pro is in the market and works perfect..
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Probably because it is pulled out of /system/app

disabling sense and using the stock launcher was the only way to get my computer to see my phone. i tried launcher pro but my comp will not see my phone now, very very frustrating.

HTC aria 2.2.2 update review

So I decided I'd give the new official update for the HTC aria a shot despite all the talk about not being able to root it yet. So far some pretty important things I've noticed is the fact that there is no sideloading. I saw someone on here say that it would be able to sideload - incorrect. The second big thing is the fact that it does not have the touchpad button wake. You have to use the power button which is a huge flaw for me. Someone also said that it would be capable of overclocking- as far as I know right now I don't think you can, but I can't be 100% sure yet because of the lack of sideloading and the 4.99 for setcpu. Some of the cool new features I do like is the mobile hotspot capabilities, live wallpapers, and the market update. So now I want to see what others have to say about it. Please come tell me what you've found!
Sent from my HTC Aria using XDA App

Can you not sideload w/ this?
http://www.androidcentral.com/sideload-android-apps-all-you-want-sideload-wonder-machine

Hmm ill try that today after school
Sent from my HTC Aria using XDA App

That's what I used to sl when I first got this phone.
cjtulowiecki said:
Hmm ill try that today after school
Sent from my HTC Aria using XDA App
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Did it work?

I want to understand ..
The updates are made automatically?
If I purchased from ebay the device in 3 / 3 and it had not arrived yet, am I expected to see within 2.2 and unable to root?

havlaz said:
I want to understand ..
The updates are made automatically?
If I purchased from ebay the device in 3 / 3 and it had not arrived yet, am I expected to see within 2.2 and unable to root?
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Did you purchase a used phone? Was it already rooted? Did the seller install the latest update from HTC/AT&T?
The 2.2 update from at&t is not an Over-the-air (OTA) update. It's offered by at&t via the HTC web site. The update, therefore, takes work on the user's part. It's not automatic.
That said, if you purchase a phone from eBay that is factory fresh from at&t, it's possible it already has the 2.2 update - I put the odds at 50%.
For what it's worth, the only thing wrong with the stock build of this device's ROM is the at&t bloatware/crapware. Other than that, it's a solid device, and there are ways to customize the phone to your liking.
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cjtulowiecki said:
So I decided I'd give the new official update for the HTC aria a shot despite all the talk about not being able to root it yet. So far some pretty important things I've noticed is the fact that there is no sideloading. I saw someone on here say that it would be able to sideload - incorrect. The second big thing is the fact that it does not have the touchpad button wake. You have to use the power button which is a huge flaw for me. Someone also said that it would be capable of overclocking- as far as I know right now I don't think you can, but I can't be 100% sure yet because of the lack of sideloading and the 4.99 for setcpu. Some of the cool new features I do like is the mobile hotspot capabilities, live wallpapers, and the market update. So now I want to see what others have to say about it. Please come tell me what you've found!
Sent from my HTC Aria using XDA App
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don't worry about side-loading.
Use the stock HTC sync software that came with your Aria - when prompted to update, don't do it!

DanGeorges said:
Did you purchase a used phone? Was it already rooted? Did the seller install the latest update from HTC/AT&T?
The 2.2 update from at&t is not an Over-the-air (OTA) update. It's offered by at&t via the HTC web site. The update, therefore, takes work on the user's part. It's not automatic.
That said, if you purchase a phone from eBay that is factory fresh from at&t, it's possible it already has the 2.2 update - I put the odds at 50%.
For what it's worth, the only thing wrong with the stock build of this device's ROM is the at&t bloatware/crapware. Other than that, it's a solid device, and there are ways to customize the phone to your liking.
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i'm from israel, and i need RTL
i don't care about the rom,
and to change the framework.jar i need root...
here is the buy
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...DuFKhKg%3D&viewitem=&sspagename=STRK:MEWNX:IT

I got an hk/tw region phone and sideload is enabled natively

havlaz said:
i'm from israel, and i need RTL
i don't care about the rom,
and to change the framework.jar i need root...
here is the buy
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...DuFKhKg%3D&viewitem=&sspagename=STRK:MEWNX:IT
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If it is what it looks like, (US version/AT&T branded) then you should be able to root no problem with unrevoked
http://unrevoked.com/#aria
I'm not sure about enabling RTL support, but I think people have been talking about it on these forums.

At first my phone felt quick when it was processing, but initial response to screen presses felt slightly laggy. I was concerned. But after running it for a few weeks now, without a task killer, it feels like quite a quick more featured phone. Seems like there was a calibration and optimization duration there. Maybe it's in my head? Very happy with the upgrade, especially for apps to SD!
Oh, and add gingerbread keyboard from the market and the phone is twice as good!
Sent from my HTC Aria using XDA App

You can do side loading by using android injector. You can find it at at harmonyhollow or softpedia. Just type in Android Injector at google. It also allows you to install multiple apps at the same time.

Call_er_Roxie said:
At first my phone felt quick when it was processing, but initial response to screen presses felt slightly laggy. I was concerned. But after running it for a few weeks now, without a task killer, it feels like quite a quick more featured phone. Seems like there was a calibration and optimization duration there. Maybe it's in my head? Very happy with the upgrade, especially for apps to SD!
Oh, and add gingerbread keyboard from the market and the phone is twice as good!
Sent from my HTC Aria using XDA App
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How do you get Apps to SD to work on this rom?
In the past I was using Darktremor's a2sd preinstalled on the Liberated Aria roms.
I am now on the Liberated version of the rom (thanks to Gene Poole - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=970272), but I don't know how to do apps2sd here. I have my sdcard partitioned with ext3 (512 Mb), but it's not getting used automatically.

Tx Redneck said:
Can you not sideload w/ this?
http://www.androidcentral.com/sideload-android-apps-all-you-want-sideload-wonder-machine
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This is what I use to sideload and it works perfectly

ROFL 2.2.2 STILL NO ROOT if I was the owner of this phone id sell it!crap

About to get an atrix, Any suggestions?

i'm probably going to get an atrix tomorrow and wondering what the first thing i should do as soon as i open the box. i'm not a 100% android noob. i have rooted and flashed my galaxy tab and I9000m and understand the basics. but i have a few questions like
- Can i Disable Moto Blur or should i?
- is rooting the same as most other devices, debugging mode/super one click etc?
- safe apps to freeze with titanium backup(list or link)
- is 2.3 coming or is it already out?
- is it worth it or should i wait?
- other personal problems or opinions would be greatly appreciated.
- not too important but how are the stock headphones? is there a remote similar to HTC and Iphone or no?
- and call quality through them if known would be nice too.
- and can i use any 3.5mm headphone or is it specific to moto?
Thankyou
-dieno1001

dieno1001 said:
i'm probably going to get an atrix tomorrow and wondering what the first thing i should do as soon as i open the box. i'm not a 100% android noob. i have rooted and flashed my galaxy tab and I9000m and understand the basics. but i have a few questions like
- Can i Disable Moto Blur or should i?
- is rooting the same as most other devices, debugging mode/super one click etc?
- safe apps to freeze with titanium backup(list or link)
- is 2.3 coming or is it already out?
- is it worth it or should i wait?
- other personal problems or opinions would be greatly appreciated.
Thankyou
-dieno1001
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I can answer some of these but not all as I'm sort of a n00b.
Is rooting the same? Yes, pretty much.
2.3 out? It's not out yet, but in a few weeks.
Is it worth it? Well I am an ex iPhone 4 user, and it's pretty worth it! I am going to be honest though, without having a case, its a you know what to not get scratches even when taking good care of it. Also the build feels cheap if your coming from a more solid phone. this phone is ALL plastic, but its the stuff inside that counts. Also just miss my iPhone 4, lol. it's all i was used to for 3 years.
Personal problems, some apps like facebook dont check in properly, more than 70 percent of the time it doesn't work. GPS is among the best i've seen however, locking on almost instantly. umm camera quality sucks, but the phone is pretty consistent with flash and plays pretty awesome . fast fast fast phone. it has its quirks though, however if your an android user and know what its about, it's probably the phone for you!

Rooting requires downgrading firmware then upgrading to maintain root, iirc.
GB will be released soon no eta though.
Bootloader bypass is being worked on as we speak, 2nd init is working but needs roms.
Right now is the time to get this phone, with the devs working on so many solutions to Moto and Att's lockdown the potential of this phone is incredible.
Also with Netflix coming soon and the qhd display it will get even better, however the yellows on this display seem a little greenish, and has miffed a few people, but I really don't pay much attention to it.
The only problems I have seen is random reboots, all from apps not optimized for this phone.
As far as camera quality, IMO it is the best camera quality I have seen on a phone and that include the iphone4, video is great, the only thing it lacks is stock camera customizing i.e. lens effects, more color options ect., easily rectified with apps.
This is the best phone I have ever owned and would recommend it to anyone looking for something for in a phone.
Sent from my Moto Atrix

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dieno1001 said:
i'm probably going to get an atrix tomorrow and wondering what the first thing i should do as soon as i open the box. i'm not a 100% android noob. i have rooted and flashed my galaxy tab and I9000m and understand the basics. but i have a few questions like
- Can i Disable Moto Blur or should i?
- is rooting the same as most other devices, debugging mode/super one click etc?
- safe apps to freeze with titanium backup(list or link)
- is 2.3 coming or is it already out?
- is it worth it or should i wait?
- other personal problems or opinions would be greatly appreciated.
Thankyou
-dieno1001
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1. Yes you can, prob comes down to personal preference.
2. No. I am very happy with the GladRoot method. Do this BEFORE you accept the OTAs.
3. I dont know of a link or have a list sorry.
4. Its coming. Dont listen to everybody anybody in the forum who thinks a few peoples speculations are fact. The fact is Moto has NOT given a date for GB on the Atrix.
5. Its worth it!! Join the party.
6. List of root apps for the Atrix.

dieno1001 said:
i'm probably going to get an atrix tomorrow and wondering what the first thing i should do as soon as i open the box. i'm not a 100% android noob. i have rooted and flashed my galaxy tab and I9000m and understand the basics. but i have a few questions like
- Can i Disable Moto Blur or should i?
- is rooting the same as most other devices, debugging mode/super one click etc?
- safe apps to freeze with titanium backup(list or link)
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Unfortunately u cant bcoz its more than a skin.. its entrenched within the OS. However freezing apps like Social Networking which are from Motoblur and installing a Lanucher gets rid of most of the problem. You can definitely root. Gingerbreak works flawlessly.
- is 2.3 coming or is it already out?
- is it worth it or should i wait?
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There is Gingerbread leak and I think you can expect a release date of july.
Sent from my MB860 using XDA App

dieno1001 said:
i'm probably going to get an atrix tomorrow and wondering what the first thing i should do as soon as i open the box. i'm not a 100% android noob. i have rooted and flashed my galaxy tab and I9000m and understand the basics. but i have a few questions like
- Can i Disable Moto Blur or should i?
- is rooting the same as most other devices, debugging mode/super one click etc?
- safe apps to freeze with titanium backup(list or link)
- is 2.3 coming or is it already out?
- is it worth it or should i wait?
- other personal problems or opinions would be greatly appreciated.
- not too important but how are the stock headphones? is there a remote similar to HTC and Iphone or no?
- and call quality through them if known would be nice too.
- and can i use any 3.5mm headphone or is it specific to moto?
Thankyou
-dieno1001
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-You can disable motoblur by installing a pseudo-rom (i suggest gingerblur) or by using third party launcher (i.e. launcher pro) and freezing motoblur through titanium backup.
-Rooting actually is kinda the same(ish). You don't have to root before you ota. You can ota to 1.83 and use gingerbreak to root it. Use this link to install gingerbreak on you phone, http://atrix4ghacks.com/atrix-4g-hacks/how-to-root-atrix-4g/ then run gingerbreak from phone to one click root.
-Gingerbread is coming out in like a few weeks. You can check out the gb preview thread in android dev.
-its worth it
-um it doesn't come with stock headphones, but they sound just as good as iphone with any headphoens.
-call quality is good
one issue it has is that it kinda gets warm (or hot if using for a long time), especially around the bottom portion. oddly it doesn't get nearly as hot on the lower back of the phone as it does at the lower front glass of the phone.
hope i helped

I wouldn't do anything other than root and enable sideloading. Be sure to get the Amazon marketplace for the one free app a day. Most are garbage, but some (like the Nuance FlexT9 keyboard are great. I think Motoblur is fine, despite what many say. Decide for yourself if it really doesn't fit with how you use it. I just chose not to add my facebook account. It works fine in my experience.

Best Stock Rom/Firmware Vote!

Lets put it to a vote! Which is the best stock firmware to use. I was actually happy on 1.2.6 and upgraded to 1.8.3. Can i downgrade if i upgrade using pudding 2.3.4? I find so many threads saying yes and no.
Version: 4.5.91 - Downgradable or not?
Version: 1.2.6
Version: 1.5.2
Version: 1.5.7
Version: 1.8.3
I have tried only 1.2.6 and 1.8.3, i seemded to have better battery on 1.2.6, but slightly better signal on 1.8.3 which is the reason i switched, but didnt have issues with calls on 1.2.6 until i flashed again so i may just need to do a factory wipe. I am rooted, custom boot logo, BL unlocked, sideloading enabled, CWM recovery, custom boot animation, and have the radio files ready to be flashed if the signal/radio is better on 2.3.4.
After voting if you please could post why you like that version and if you voted for multiple versions please post why and which ones. Thank you.
If any of you have or have found the change log notes for any version above please post them.
The new 4.1.57 software update is 17MB in size and brings along the following improvements
Bluetooth: Improved multimedia experience with Bluetooth devices as well as the ability to use phone with additional headsets.
Fingerprint reader: Improved fingerprint reader performance.
Battery: Improved battery performance for longer battery life.
Screen: Display will turn off automatically now while charging directly on wall charger.
Phone stability: Improved stability resulting in fewer occurrences of touch unresponsiveness and/of programs quitting unexpectedly.
Car dock: Improved performance of car dock and 3.5mm jack.
Motorola’s v4.1.83
Data Speed Increased speed at which data can travel on the network.
Data Connection Improvements to prevent interruptions to data connection.
Screen Improvements to prevent screen from freezing.
Email Improved ability for users to receive email notifications so you know when you have a new message. Also, improvements were made so that you are now able to use the same email login to access both MOTOBLUR™ and YouTube.
Skype Improvements to call audio function so it is easier for the person you called to hear you. Please note this application is not pre-loaded on the phone, but is available for download from the Android Market.
Wi-Fi Increased functionality by enabling Yahoo Email to be sent over a Wi-Fi connection.
Display Improved International Roaming Warning Message by simplifying user notification so that it only appears on the screen when you move to a new network.
Happenings Widget Improved Happenings Widget to ensure that you receive the latest updates across the social networks you are connected to such as Facebook, MySpace, and Twitter.
Calling Improvements were made to incoming and outgoing call functionality to ensure a more seamless experience.
This vote will also help me decide to flash again except to 2.3.4(4.5.91), then i will start looking at whether to use pudding or the official SBF, if you have any thoughts on those two SBF's please post as well. I aint gonna use the OTA after what i read.

What is the point of this? Obviously 2.3.4 is miles better than the Froyo builds.

I myself would love to see an old android build get fruitcaked. Even pre-froyo, it just would take me back lol. But I don't think I'd want it for my daily driver. Just to mess with.

How about international builds? typical american

Magnetox said:
How about international builds? typical american
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Clearly you have every opportunity to post your own poll on the international builds. Instead of getting your thong all knotted up about this, how about trying something that contributes even a minute amount of value instead of insulting an entire country...which quite frankly makes you look just as bad as those your targeting with your ire.

I am focused on versions that i will be using. The point is that some people like older versions, not everyone has upgraded since some can never go back. If you dont like the thread then dont post or vote, its that simple.

Magnetox said:
How about international builds? typical american
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Since your in Canada wouldnt you be using the North American builds anyway since your not in LATAM, EUROPE or ASIA!?!?

dcarpenter85 said:
What is the point of this? Obviously 2.3.4 is miles better than the Froyo builds.
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The other point of this is to help me decide if i want to flash 2.3.4 ( pudding or official)

2.3.4 of course

Its just funny how only the American builds were included.. I particularly like the telestra 2.2.2 firmware for froyo. There's not much bloat. The ota is just... meh. Cm7 or froyo IMO.
Sent from my Motorola Atrix 4G MB860 using Tapatalk

I tested 1.8.3 & 4.5.9 and I see the latest is the best
TY

Once again i cannot use those builds hence all the posts about you creating your own thread. Anywho i decided to take the plunge and flashed manually pudding 2.3.4, in teh words of McDonalds "im lovin it!".
This post as mentioned above was to help me decide and see what people that have had the phone longer that me liked. I was sitting on 1.2.6, then jumped to 1.8.3 and then decide after the help of the good XDA members yesterday to hop onto 2.3.4, if i could use any of the other builds i would list them. I listed all builds that i am able to use.

gh0stshell said:
Once again i cannot use those builds hence all the posts about you creating your own thread. Anywho i decided to take the plunge and flashed manually pudding 2.3.4, in teh words of McDonalds "im lovin it!".
This post as mentioned above was to help me decide and see what people that have had the phone longer that me liked. I was sitting on 1.2.6, then jumped to 1.8.3 and then decide after the help of the good XDA members yesterday to hop onto 2.3.4, if i could use any of the other builds i would list them. I listed all builds that i am able to use.
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Guyz did you find any custom recovery for voto v4

aju_arjun790 said:
Guyz did you find any custom recovery for voto v4
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Is that even relevant to the atrix 4g? B/c we have custom recovery