Sensitivity Thread - Testing? (wordy - sorry) - HD2 General

Hey Guys,
Firstly, I normally just lurk around here, helping where I can and generally just absorbing the info. XDA is a great forum, its a veritable gold mine which has helped me over and over again - so first things first I just wanted to say thank you to all the members (especially the Blackstone and Leo guys)...
So I have been following a bunch of threads about screen sensitivity and keyboard sensitivity etc, everyone is either happy or complaing its too sensitive or not sensitive enough. Given that everyone has different "views" and different expectations (fat and thin fingers!) I thought it might be a good idea to get a "standard" set of sensitivity values (from the registry) and explain what each the keys in the TouchPanel regtree does. There are loads of keys in there and personally I dont follow what most of them really do (my assumption is that they control all aspects of the screen (and its related sensitivity))...
Anyway, the common theme that I am seeing through all of the threads on Sensitivity is that everyone seems to have different values in the reg. Whether that is coming from BSB / HD2Tweak use, Cooked ROMs or differing Stock ROMs I dont know, but before we can really compare anything we need to test a "standard". Not a standard for you or me, but a standard that can be used to test (for example the 8787 hotfix (touch.dll)).
Maybe we could all export our TouchPanel regkeys and post mentioning which HD2 model you own and what ROM being used...
I dont know if this is useful, but it seems that every thread on sensitivity ends up with some people loving any proposed changes and other saying its terrible and undoing / uninstalling. So its hard to discern if there is any "real" tangible benefits / changes...
Just a thought, dont know if it will help or if anyone is that interested but I thought I would suggest it.
Lets see what the general feelings are around the board, we should define a set of standard information for submisson then collect and analyse...
I am willing to help out, but dont know if I have enough tech know-how to define the info we need...
CHeers
Whatever

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just got my new xperia... wat should i do

hey guys, i got a new xperia last night. Now i know there are many tweaks out there... wat are the best or main ones to improve ANYTHING on the phone, please share.
You're new here, so the first thing you should do is READ...and do it lots.
Take things one step at a time - you've just got your new device, so play with it as it is first. Learn it's features and quirks, discover things that bug YOU, then start investigating ways of fixing them.
There's no point spending time fixing things that bug other people, you need to figure out what YOU want.
My own personal conclusion about WM6 devices is generally that if it isn't broke, don't fix it. If you're happy with something then leave it be. Just because others have different expectations doesn't mean you should too.
If I were you I would start reading the wiki
plAythiNG said:
just got my new xperia... wat should i do
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Piece of cake: Read here in the forums, especialy the sticky threads up in the front list, then READ a little more and keep reading
You'll find lots of interesting stuff for the xperia, which ROM is better or which app should I install? well... you will have to read, search and find for yourself the apps/ROMs that fit your requirements and needs
BTW: welcome to the developers forum
If you want to mess around with different programs I would recommend you get some sort of backup program for your contacts, messages and so on. Something like PIM Backup or Spb Backup. Why am I saying this; You are surely gonna f*** up your device a couple of times in the beginning and then would need to hard reset.
Hard reset = Reset to firmware default (Like it was when you bought it if you haven't flashed anything) deleting any configuration settings and installed programs etc.
Soft reset = Rebooting (Like restarting your computer's operating system).
Don't do anything with your phone unless you are sure what you are doing. Read up on anything if you are the smallest bit in doubt!
Try to use the search function in the forum as there is a big possibility someone has asked the same question before.
Good luck.
Welcome to the greatest forum on the internetz . I can only tell you what i did. Hope that helps.
1 - Go to google and type xperia. Find some good forums about it. (seems you already got that one in the bag).
2 - Read some info about your device. What is an ARM processor, what is windows mobile, what kind of games can you play, the resolution of the device +'s and -'s. Start with the small things, before you jump to ROMs, flashing etc.
3 - Read the sticky topics in this forum.
4 - After you have done some reading decide what you want and search the forum for info about programs or games you might like. Almost all the problems you encounter or questions you might have, have been discussed in the past.
5 - Customize your x1 .
6 - And if i may quote maedox - "Don't do anything with your phone unless you are sure what you are doing. Read up on anything if you are the smallest bit in doubt!"
That's what i did. I had to hard reset it a few times but now i got my fair share of experimenting and i have customized it to my tastes. The looks, the games, the programs .

help

can blue angel run this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=469865
you can install it, i had a previous version installed with sun_dream's wm6.1 rom and i thought i had an improvement. another thing is: i just checked the registry and the values mentioned in the thread do not exist on my xplode 21202 rom, so i don't know whether it would change anything to install it, it wouldn't do any harm, but then don't expect any improvements, if you do, please respond here and write azharsunny, that his tweak works for the ba too so he can add it to the list of compatible devices
Also, could you Edit the tittle of first post to something more like " iTouch Tweek" for BA ???? So others would be more interested in reading.
I would also suggest to test it and let us know.
Edit: Also, are you looking for better sensitivity with your finger or with the stylus? I've found that when you do the Screen Setting, if you do it with your finger, and gently touch the crosses, it give you more sensitivity when using finger.
Ive tryd this reg change my self there's no difference what so ever, on our BA's that is.
It could be that since this reg tweak was meant for other devices, the values are elsewhere. I remember changing the screen sensitivity a while back in WM6 and it does work. I'll try to see if I can remember the entry, but it does work. I don't know if this "program" works or not, but I guess trying it wouldn't hurt.
@Nev2Star
markanthonypr is absolutely right. Please refrain from opening a thread with a title like that. Whenever you create a thread, please make sure that the following conditions are met:
[highlight]* You are posting it in the right section of the forum:[/highlight]
This is clearly a specific program compatibility issue and it sure does not deserve a new thread for it. You could have just created a post in the thread where you found the program or you could have asked in the "Questions and Answers" section of the forum. Remember, this is only for WM6+ development, testing, etc. and not for specific programs. This is not the first thread that you have opened with similar purposes in the BA section and I am simply asking you to open them in the right section (which is not this one).
[highlight]* Make a title for your thread that is specific for your problem:[/highlight]
Again, if you want someone to look at your question seriously (or even look at it at all), put a title that clearly explains what you are looking for. A title of "help", doesn't say anything. What happened? Did your BA crash? Are you trapped in a coal mine? You need help with math homework? What does "help" tell the other members looking into possibly helping you out? Absolutely nothing.
[highlight]* That the thread doesn't already exist / the question hasn't been asked before:[/highlight]
In this case, there is a full thread in the Dev & Hacking section solely dedicated to this program. There is no need for a new thread talking about compatibility of this.

Tweak for TP2

Hi All,
Can someone help me with an application for the tp2 to tweak such as Diamond Tweak which you can switch the automatic keypad lock and hide some stuff.
Im looking for such application and especially to make the auto lock for the keypad other than s2u.
Thanks
Welcome to the forums!
If you have a quick look around you'll find references to many tweak applications. I suggest that you look at the "software worth installing" sticky here and the cabs, tips and tweaks thread in the Rhodium / General branch.
Gordon
Hi:
I too am looking for something like Diamond Tweaks. Is anything available for Rhodium? I did of course check out the software to install thread, and have searched around, while I did find tons of good info, I have not found an app which performs multiple tweaks like Diamond Tweaks (or prior to that Kaiser Tweaks).
Am I just looking in the wrong place? The closest I have found is for the Topaz, but it seems people are having problems using it on the Rhodium. I am also looking for something like Diamond TF3D config. Anything available?
Thanks!
TP2 Tweak
I have never been a fan of "ME TOO" Forum messages, and in fact, messages that ask the same questions over and over are one of the reasons I don't like forums that much... but it seems I can SUBSCRIBE only to a thread I have contributed to, and the TweakTP2 utility that doesn't yet exist would be a GREAT addition to my life...
My contribution; While hAndyUtils has a Pro2 specific utility with SOME tweaks, it isn't quite as full as the DiamondTweak I used to use.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=4892758
frogstar42 said:
I have never been a fan of "ME TOO" Forum messages, and in fact, messages that ask the same questions over and over are one of the reasons I don't like forums that much... but it seems I can SUBSCRIBE only to a thread I have contributed to, and the TweakTP2 utility that doesn't yet exist would be a GREAT addition to my life...
My contribution; While hAndyUtils has a Pro2 specific utility with SOME tweaks, it isn't quite as full as the DiamondTweak I used to use.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=4892758
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Yeah, me too, lol
Forum gets a little circular when the same questions pop up again and again cos peeps can't be bothered doing a simple search.
In fact, if you can't search you probably shouldn't be tweaking. You'll only break your phone and the come back and fail to search for an answer to your self inflicted problem, starting the whole boring loop again.
Wasn't it Black Flag who released the album "Stupid people shouldn't breed" ?
Edit : Sorry, it was Skatenigs
I was actually thinking of petitioning this as well. I am currently using HD Tweaks and TD2 Tools, but as they are made for different phones some things don't work properly. If I use TD2 Tools I get the opton for "TF3D Rotation" which I actually hate. If it is activated then Touch Flow rotation becomes accelerometer activated and it is WAYYY too sensitive rotating when I so much as sneeze. If it I turn it off then when I open the keyboard it rotates but I can't actually SEE TF3D, only the windows bar on top and below where TF3D should be. A tweak app specifically for the TP2/Rhodium would avoid this kind of conflicts. Hopefully I hope it is made eventually. It'd be a great help for those who want to do some tweaking either in an easy manner without having to dig out a registry tweaker and have to look up the correct values and for those who are somewhat newbies and prefer a "safer" method that is easy to undo.
try this one
http://htcpedia.com/htc_touch_pro2_rhodium_settings_too/soft/rhodium-apps
HD Tweak works quite well for me.
Same goes for Advanced Config.
These are all the tweaking tools I really need for my TP2.

Default WinMo keyboard gone on T-Mobile TouchPro2 with 6.5 download

I just installed Windows Mobile 6.5 onto my T-Mobile TouchPro2. Now, the old, default windows mobile on-screen keyboard is gone. I know I'm probably one of the last people in the world who still uses it, but I use it because it doesn't take up a lot of screen room and I use the stylus a lot anyway for a lot of my applications.
Does anyone know how to get this keyboard back? Is there a cab file somewhere of the default windows mobile 6.1 keyboard I can download? If it's not possible, does anyone know of another option for a keyboard that is meant to be used for the stylus and is relatively small?
dshersze said:
I just installed Windows Mobile 6.5 onto my T-Mobile TouchPro2. Now, the old, default windows mobile on-screen keyboard is gone. I know I'm probably one of the last people in the world who still uses it, but I use it because it doesn't take up a lot of screen room and I use the stylus a lot anyway for a lot of my applications.
Does anyone know how to get this keyboard back? Is there a cab file somewhere of the default windows mobile 6.1 keyboard I can download? If it's not possible, does anyone know of another option for a keyboard that is meant to be used for the stylus and is relatively small?
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google "tmobile touch pro 2 screen keyboard sip" search search search before u post
I did the search you suggested to dshersze --"tmobile touch pro 2 screen keyboard sip" and all that came up is this page. I can confirm that the standard windows mobile keyboard has been removed from T-Mobile's latest ROM, and I've done a good bit of searching online without finding a .CAB for that ol' standard keyboard, or a way to tweak T-Mobile's new WM 6.5 ROM to activate it. So dshersze's questions seems reasonable, and not deserving of a "search before u post" admonition. akademik_acheeba, if you know where there's a page that explains how to fix this issue, could you post a link to it?
Thanks, Alan
so after 2 mins of searching for an onscreen keyboard for TP2 or WVGA in general, these are your options:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=486227
http://htcwinmobile.blogspot.com/2009/07/finger-keyboard-2-finger-friendly.html
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=501122
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=487677
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=47109&d=1257216820
http://www.1800pocketpc.com/2009/01...nger-friendly-keyboard-sip-for-pocket-pc.html
http://www.1800pocketpc.com/2008/12/31/touchpal-35-finger-friendly-keyboard-for-windows-mobile.html
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=42734
SEARCH
p.s. what ROM are you using? is it the official TMo that came out today(not the leaked) or are you using one of the xda chefs? if it is from xda then this question belongs in that ROMs thread.
I am not missing my onscreen keyboard in the 6.5 TMOUS ROM, it is there as it has always been, maybe you shoudl reflash
I can confirm that the default WM Keyboard(the one that looks like a full keyboard and is really only suitable for stylus input or for people with microscopic fingers) is absent from the new 6.5 update (both leaked and official). To check this, pull up your SIP and enter the input options menu.
Here is what I use along with my options...
Thanks for the screenshots- they show that you do not have the SIP in question either. My guess is that someone decided that it wasn't a popular input method, however, I can see where this might be a preferred keyboard for stylus intensive input or for access to keys not found in most SIPs.
The T-Mobile 6.1 *Official* ROM called this SIP "Keyboard", and on the 6.5 *Official* ROM it has been replaced by "Transcriber" which on 6.1 was found under "Other Input Methods".
I wish people wouldn't be so eager to attack a legitimate posting without a clear understanding of what is being addressed. I think that most of us make a genuine attempt at searching for answers prior to creating a thread, but it seems like there are some that are just waiting to pounce without hesitation to accuse someone of not following forum rules. Give me a break, I know that not everyone here is an adult, but attacking someone with the insinuation that they did not do a proper search seems to have become far too common and does nothing to help anyone. Why not assume that a thorough search has already been attempted and rather than providing an admonishment and a slew of links (that I doubt had anything to do with the issue at hand) provide a reasonable explanation or solution along with those links? In my opinion, this is what these forums are for: a valuable resource of information and advice.
Seattle Rat said:
Thanks for the screenshots- they show that you do not have the SIP in question either. My guess is that someone decided that it wasn't a popular input method, however, I can see where this might be a preferred keyboard for stylus intensive input or for access to keys not found in most SIPs.
The T-Mobile 6.1 *Official* ROM called this SIP "Keyboard", and on the 6.5 *Official* ROM it has been replaced by "Transcriber" which on 6.1 was found under "Other Input Methods".
I wish people wouldn't be so eager to attack a legitimate posting without a clear understanding of what is being addressed. I think that most of us make a genuine attempt at searching for answers prior to creating a thread, but it seems like there are some that are just waiting to pounce without hesitation to accuse someone of not following forum rules. Give me a break, I know that not everyone here is an adult, but attacking someone with the insinuation that they did not do a proper search seems to have become far too common and does nothing to help anyone. Why not assume that a thorough search has already been attempted and rather than providing an admonishment and a slew of links (that I doubt had anything to do with the issue at hand) provide a reasonable explanation or solution along with those links? In my opinion, this is what these forums are for: a valuable resource of information and advice.
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Score one for civility. We must remember that not everyone speaks English as a first language. In addition you can't search for something if you don't know the key words to look for. Everyone describes his/her issue differently. Just look at how akademik changed the terms he suggested when he posted his links. It seems that it would have been easier and better for the forum, if someone had simply posted a link to the solution. On another note, it is a great idea to use tags when creating new threads.
Seattle Rat said:
Thanks for the screenshots- they show that you do not have the SIP in question either. My guess is that someone decided that it wasn't a popular input method, however, I can see where this might be a preferred keyboard for stylus intensive input or for access to keys not found in most SIPs.
The T-Mobile 6.1 *Official* ROM called this SIP "Keyboard", and on the 6.5 *Official* ROM it has been replaced by "Transcriber" which on 6.1 was found under "Other Input Methods".
I wish people wouldn't be so eager to attack a legitimate posting without a clear understanding of what is being addressed. I think that most of us make a genuine attempt at searching for answers prior to creating a thread, but it seems like there are some that are just waiting to pounce without hesitation to accuse someone of not following forum rules. Give me a break, I know that not everyone here is an adult, but attacking someone with the insinuation that they did not do a proper search seems to have become far too common and does nothing to help anyone. Why not assume that a thorough search has already been attempted and rather than providing an admonishment and a slew of links (that I doubt had anything to do with the issue at hand) provide a reasonable explanation or solution along with those links? In my opinion, this is what these forums are for: a valuable resource of information and advice.
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I agree with Treo, points for civility. Especially because the other guy who attacked the OP didn't even post any links relevant to what the OP was looking for. All I saw in those links were Finger Keyboards, and HTC keyboards.
OP wants the default WINMO 6.0/6.1 keyboard, with the tiny keys that, while only good for use with a stylus, is excellent for odd symbols. Like | for messing with the Manilla Weather editors.
Unfortunately I don't have information for the OP, as it seems likely that as many people have not liked that keyboard, support for it is all but gone.
The new keyboard function "Swype" has a pretty good symbol list to choose from.
Here's the thread for the TP2: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=597337
I guess I did have some info after all... I guess that's something.
as much as i help people on here via posts or pm's, no one knows how to use the search dropbox at the top or even google their issue to see if other wm sites have info on it. you heard about xda from tmo.com and now you come here for everyone to magically solve all your issues. all you people want is to point, click, download, install and be on your merry way...so stop being lazy, people here spend alot of time developing and perfecting things and if one lil issue goes wrong then yall complain. google what you want, and help others. as i see you guys posted here and not one of you have helped the issue but rather complained that i said search...oh well ill say it again...SEARCH
I like Swype, but anther decent SIP that I think is well worth trying is Finger Keyboard. One problem I have had is that some 3rd party SIPs will prevent my Rhodium from booting forcing hard-reset, but both Swype and Finger Keyboard work fine. One feature that I like in Finger Keyboard is the ability to assign text to a key such as an email address or password and it can switch between different languages without leaving the panel.
A way to bring back the default keyboard ...
Check this out: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=4843610. It requires a registry hack, but it does work.
I'm not sure why no one likes a stylus anymore, but I prefer the precision that it buys me as well as the ability to draw on the screen. The old keyboard also has a CTRL key which allows me to cut and pasted from any application (even those without a press-and-hold context menu). I don't understand the desire to emulate the iPhone with capacitive touch screens but poor precision. If I wanted an iPhone, I would have bought one.
jmigliosi said:
If I wanted an iPhone, I would have bought one.
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LOL! Spot on!
This is brilliant. You don't want to know how long I've been looking for a way to get the old keyboard back! Everyone seems to want keyboards that are bigger and can be used without a stylus - but I hate having the keyboard take over more than half my screen. This is an elegant solution! Thank you for posting it!
Edit - Rats! It says it can't initialize SIP CLSIDs for stylus status. Does the TP2 not have any way of telling whether the stylus is in or not? Grrr. So close, but I guess I have to keep on searching...
Ariel
Looking for small Stylus friendly Keyboard
have an HTC Touch Diamond 2 with WM6.5. Since I have it I am not happy with the big keybord. Using the stylus very often, even with the big keyboard. But this takes so much space, even on my old Touch Cruise with QVGA I have more space thanks to the small keyboard.
How and where can i get a working CAB with the small keyboard from WM6.1 ?
Think it must be that in this picture.

ROM Questions

Hi There!
I am trying to decipher the massive amount of information about all the ROMS available, but I am confused.
I know I need to update my Radio, and I'll likely just grab the latest and see how it does. I know I need HSPL so I'll grab that and do that first.
There are SOOO many ROMS around, but I am struggling to correlate which OS versions are 6.5.5 (I presume this is the most preferable one) over 6.5.3 which is what I think is what ships with the device? Some ROMs say 6.5.x which I am not sure how to interpret?
Are there some newbie guidelines to particular modders being known for certain things? I don't care about twitter, facebook, or any other social networking crap, but I do want excellent call quality, blisteringly fast, and a good web browser.. I like things that make the phone more usable, such as the 4 column start menu, more accessible unlock screens etc (would be nice if the unlock part was middle of the screen), 1% battery life etc customizations.. I dislike the clock adjusting every time I unlock the phone and I know I can fix that with a cab, but are some roms shipping with these fixes?
Sorry I know some of these questions may have been answered in the other posts but there are so many and it's hard to correlate. I did read the FAQ.
With my thanks for any information anyone is prepared to supply...
Big on my list is anything that makes the keyboard faster to input text for and I prefer horizontal qwerty over the default portrait which I can't seem to input quickly for.
Anyone able to personally recommend something that meets some or all of these needs?
WinMo 6.5 ships with the HD2 from factory, WinMo 6.5.x is the latest release of WinMo which is on the HTC HD Mini. It has the start button at the bottom and large buttons for the 2 softkeys (which personally I think look terrible).
6.5.x is usually put as it's either or - don't worry about it.
Best thing is to just try some ROMs (if you're sure the stock ROM doesn't do what you want it to do). All the features you've said you want aren't in the original shipped ROMs hence why they are only in shipped ROMs (although you can just CAB a stock ROM to do most of what you asked).
If you want a FAST ROM then I'd say have a look at the one in my signature - CleanEx. It's pretty much stock but has performance tweaks you've mentioned and most of the 'crapware' removed from it so you have tonnes of memory left to install your own apps.
Welcome to the forum and make sure you understand what you're doing (and what to do should it go wrong) before you take the dive into cooked ROMs
Anyone else have any other ROMS to recommend or any other comments to make?
Hi Networkn,
Am afraid no one is going to recommend a rom for several reasons:
1) At the end of the day the rom that works best is the one that suits the initial criteria you set out or which comes closest to that criteria, i.e its a personal choice
2) We have clamped down on "Best ROM" threads like this one because of all the firestorms that they have raised on here and point 1 above.
My advice to you is to sit down with a simple spreadsheet, list what you are looking for in a rom then visit each rom on here in turn (you probably only have to read the first 2 posts of each) and map out what they offer on your sheet.
From that decide what comes closest, read that thread thoroughly, understand what you are doing and go for it.
Hope this helps a little. PM me if you need more help and I will see what I can do.
For now this is being closed.
ATB
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