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I am a new pure user and I am looking to "customize" the phone...
I am completely new to this and I don't even know where to start...
Help?
I'd use the phone for a few days and figure out exactly what you like and don't like about it and then post what you want to change. Customize is a pretty general term but we'll be able to help you if you have specific wants.
BTW, is Dillybar a Dairy Queen treat?
lol - my last name is Dillard... so my friend who LOVES dairy queen nicknamed me dilly bar
Anywho - I have had the pure for a couple weeks... The only thing I absolutely want to keep on the phone is the voice command... I won't be too upset if anything else goes into hiding with a new rom or anything...
I'm fine with it how it is, but I just want to try some different things... The voice command staying is really my only requirement though
is it possible to get adobe flash player on a pure?
I was trying to watch the Disney princess videos on youtube with my daughter this AM and I couldn't install flash... she was disappointed
Bro,
Start first by searching and reading.
There are so many possiblities but it is important that you know what you are doing first.
Read "Flashing for newbies", then read through a few cooked ROM threads and see what the bugs are and what is offered in the ROM.
Mostly, a cooked ROM will be ready with everything you need other than personal tastes.
Also, almost any question you may have has already been asked and answered so search and read.....
On the stock ATT ROM, there is a youtube application built-in, its just hiding. Just go to the file explorer, find the youtube program(should be called you tube) tap and hold, then copy into start menu folder inside windows folder. If not, try the official youtube application, or youtubeplay. As for general customization, just look around in the forum. Check the blackstone and rhodium forums, too.
A really good place to visit is the Development and Hacking forums. Thats where all the application updates, user made programs, and program tweaks reside.
I wouldn't really flash to a custom rom quite yet. Custom roms can sometimes require a little more windows mobile experience. When you are ready to flash custom roms, you'll have to do it in 2 steps initially. The first step is called HardSPL, which only needs to be done once. It unlocks your phone to allow custom roms. Then pick your poison. I would recommend Dutty's roms as they seem pretty clean and straight forward.
I am completely new to the whole ROM scene, but with the possibility of landscape menus in manila 2.5.1922, I really need to check it out! However, there are so many ROMs out there, and I have no idea which one I should try.
So I guess what I am asking is: What is the most reliable/stable ROM with Manila 2.5.1922/landscape support?
Thanks!
It's bumptastic!
that's a tough question to answer.if there were one rom better than the others we'd all be using that one!
read some of the rom threads...the important stuff is inn the first post usually.
next, learn what the different versions of the different parts mean. is it windows 6.5 or 6.5.3, what manilla build is it and what's the difference... then you will be able to make your own informed decision.
This type of thread is usually locked by a mod, so I'll get in first ;-)
Only you can decide which rom is right for you, really. Best thing is to look at the existing threads for roms, and try one you like the looks of.
Almost all roms here are constantly being improved, so it's very difficult for someone else to recommend a particular rom over another one for you, as within a week one may have added new features over another.
Depends what are you looking for.
Speed?
Stability?
New features?
I personally seek a ROM that is close to original HTC but with improved speed and new features. I don't search for fastest ROM, just a ROM that is little bit optimized with tweaks from this place:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=583638
also I like how start button is moved to the bottom so ROMs with that feature are also welcomed. Threaded mail in messaging is also nice feature. When it comes to looks I like the squarish buttons instead of rounded default ones.
At this moment I found that this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=614006
(23518 version) is all that I need at this moment.
Happy hunting
The only thing I'm actually is something that works just like the original ROM, but with landscape support in the menus. Does the miri ROM do that?
Overlord Yuri said:
The only thing I'm actually is something that works just like the original ROM, but with landscape support in the menus. Does the miri ROM do that?
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No it does not.
You can try this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=606932
very close to original
Also if you can wait a bit here will appear new version
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=576578
based on 28217 build ??
according to http://twitter.com/l3v5y
OK - Lets try again!
I have been trying quite a few ROM's on my HD2 and they have all sort of rolled into one mash-up of memories in my head - for the most I can't say I have noticed much difference in speed or responsiveness in the ROM's, and despite a few problems I have only come across one ROM that gave me any real issues.
But none of the ROMs have given me exactly what I am after (and that's an ever moving target anyway!) so I am thinking about having a go at cooking a ROM of my own. But before I go down that path I wanted some paternal guidance on the matter - and a clarification over the benefits of getting a stock ROM, adding all the software and tweaks I use then cooking it, against just installing the stock ROM to my HD2 then installing the apps on top and applying the tweaks afterwards. Are there any benefits such as speed or memory usage? or is it simply that if I need to hard-reset the device at any point I don't have to go through all that reinstalling again?
So your thoughts on the pros and cons of cooking vs installing would be greatly appreciated by a brain-addled HD2 user.
Been cooking for Trinity but not for HD2 ... still ...
Cooking gives you chance to make a ROM that is perfect for You. Some things cannot be removed like MS Live or Office via usual un-install procedure. Also you can cook ROM with favorite theme and applications.
Tweaking is completely different story. There are a lot of tweaks and most of them work but when you start implement a lot of tweaks things will get complicated. Suddenly Bluetooth will stop pairing, compass wont work as it should and so on. Then you will start hunting newer versions of applications that could solve some of the problems but will create some others ... you see the pattern?
At some point you will be satisfied with your ROM and even publish it here ... but then there will be new OS build available ... and there you go again.
Basically, depends on what kind of user you are. If you need HD2 to work and run applications without too much problems then you should stick to original or cooked ROMs. On the other hand, if you have a lot of spare time and will to learn something new, you should go for cooking.
Hope this helps
Humm - pretty much as I thought really, as I need a device that works then looks like I would be better off sticking with some of the ROMs existing chefs have created.
What would help in this matter would be a sticky with a table on it showing various comparisons with ROMs - I know this info can be found on each ROMs page but a single post with it all compiled together and then linking to the various ROM pages would be great. I guess comparisons could list the chef, ROM build no, Core build no, Manila version, WM version, size, Driver version, additional apps, removed apps and so on.... - just needs someone to keep the data up-to-date. Any takers?
it.tinz said:
What would help would be a sticky with a table on it showing various comparisons with ROMs - I guess comparisons could list the chef, ROM build no, Core build no, Manila version, WM version, size, Driver version, additional apps, removed apps and so on.... - just needs someone to keep the data up-to-date. Any takers?
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Well volunteered if you can also get a screenshot alongside them that would be great.. either that or steer me towards a Landscape enabled/576ram/no copilot/vista task bar and slider with no curtains and I'll leave you in peace.
terrytpot said:
Well volunteered if you can also get a screenshot alongside them that would be great.. either that or steer me towards a Landscape enabled/576ram/no copilot/vista task bar and slider with no curtains and I'll leave you in peace.
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If time and experience were on my side I would love to - its great to see these ROMs developing.
Hello guys ,
I bought new HTC HD2 today. I am using symbian all my life and switched to Windows mobile now . I am slowly trying to adopt to it.
I dont understand terms like "Rom" , " Custom Roms" , "Rom update" , .I see them every where ...
Can a hard core WM user help me understand what these terms mean .
Thanks
Davie
First of all a ROM is what the phone runs ie, WM (windows mobile 6.5, 6.5.x)
custom ROM is something a chef on here or other various sites, has taken the ROM and made it better the way they like it and made it available for everyone else to use,
ROM updates are usually put out by the networks for stock ROM's i.e. what came on the phone first, have a read in the ROM section thread to get more knowledge.
and this is a very helpful thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=609477
oh and please just use a normal font it will still be answered lol
Like you I came from a symbian device to an HD2 (about 6 months ago) and the only way to get to grips with it is just by reading through the forums endlessly, the best place to start is the wiki and the sticky threads in the various forums. It might be hard to find what your looking for sometimes but trust me anything you'll ever need to know is on here somewhere.
I think you'll be glad you made the switch.........
Happy reading
Demon_man said:
First of all a ROM is what the phone runs ie, WM (windows mobile 6.5, 6.5.x)
custom ROM is something a chef on here or other various sites, has taken the ROM and made it better the way they like it and made it available for everyone else to use,
ROM updates are usually put out by the networks for stock ROM's i.e. what came on the phone first, have a read in the ROM section thread to get more knowledge.
and this is a very helpful thread
oh and please just use a normal font it will still be answered lol
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Thank u for the quicker response !!! I think its prety much like installing another OS everytime I switch to a new Rom . Pls correct if I am wrong.
Also I believe Stock Rom is what I get with the phone itself when I buy and is it possible for me to switch back to the stock rom from a custom rom. And will i be able to install a stock rom update on the custom rom .
thank u
you can still enjoy a lot your device without paying too much attention to these terms. just play around with it and install apps that you like. there are lots of apps here and in other websites. some of them for free. one of my these websites is www.freewarepocketpc.net. just make sure that the apps you install have the same resolution as your device, i.e. wvga. and as suggested, browse through the forums and you'll learn a lot.
welcome to the wm world!
conantroutman said:
Like you I came from a symbian device to an HD2 (about 6 months ago) and the only way to get to grips with it is just by reading through the forums endlessly, the best place to start is the wiki and the sticky threads in the various forums. It might be hard to find what your looking for sometimes but trust me anything you'll ever need to know is on here somewhere.
I think you'll be glad you made the switch.........
Happy reading
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Thanks for ur advise. I will do that .. Its kinda completly looks alien to me but still impressive than the boring symbian ****.
daviefl86 said:
Thank u for the quicker response !!! I think its prety much like installing another OS everytime I switch to a new Rom . Pls correct if I am wrong.
Also I believe Stock Rom is what I get with the phone itself when I buy and is it possible for me to switch back to the stock rom from a custom rom. And will i be able to install a stock rom update on the custom rom .
thank u
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You basically have 2 flavours, 6.5 which more than likely came as standard (Stock) where the start button is on the top left, and 6.5.x where the start button is on the bottom left where most of the custom ROM's are 6.5.x (not all though). yes you can put a stock ROM back on after custom ROM but you wont lol its that simple you will prob just flash (install a new ROM) to something else like the rest of us, the stock ROM updates are not needed on custom ROM's as there all upto date, and the chefs's(the people who create them) are often updating them.
as joshzzz2001 said you can use that website for all your free apps its a very good site and there is also a mobile app, so you can browse on your cell,
All i will say though is if you do Flash make sure you have read through and understand it all, once you have read it and wanna ask a question to double check people are good enough to help but its the people that dont read and fully understand that will screw up, once you have read its a piece of cake.
I know what you mean, it all seems hellishly complicated if your not used to it. Like the guy above said just start installing things and getting to grips with the basics, if theres one thing I would advise its that you reguarly backup your settings/data.
Get microsoft myphone from the marketplace, there are other more in depth backup apps out there but myphone will do the basics. Its quite likely that once you get hooked on tweaking your phone (and you will) that you might have to hard reset (factory reset). I've lost count of how many times I've had to do this. Mainly due to my own lack of knowledge
Its worth it though.... lol
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Forgot to mention this, Cookies Home Tab.
Absolutely fantastic app for customising your home screen, a must have for any HD2 if you ask me, well worth looking into!
Download here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=625483
Good youtube vid of it in action
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9LoBv8D76Y&feature=related
conantroutman said:
I know what you mean, it all seems hellishly complicated if your not used to it. Like the guy above said just start installing things and getting to grips with the basics, if theres one thing I would advise its that you reguarly backup your settings/data.
Get microsoft myphone from the marketplace, there are other more in depth backup apps out there but myphone will do the basics. Its quite likely that once you get hooked on tweaking your phone (and you will) that you might have to hard reset (factory reset). I've lost count of how many times I've had to do this. Mainly due to my own lack of knowledge
Its worth it though.... lol
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+1 for myphone only good thing to come from MS
conantroutman said:
I know what you mean, it all seems hellishly complicated if your not used to it. Like the guy above said just start installing things and getting to grips with the basics, if theres one thing I would advise its that you reguarly backup your settings/data.
Get microsoft myphone from the marketplace, there are other more in depth backup apps out there but myphone will do the basics. Its quite likely that once you get hooked on tweaking your phone (and you will) that you might have to hard reset (factory reset). I've lost count of how many times I've had to do this. Mainly due to my own lack of knowledge
Its worth it though.... lol
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Forgot to mention this, Cookies Home Tab.
Absolutely fantastic app for customising your home screen, a must have for any HD2 if you ask me, well worth looking into!
Download here
Good youtube vid of it in action
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This app is really cool . .. I love it ... Thanks for the info...
Can u tell me where I can get more apps like that ....thanks
My phone is carrier (T-Mobile) locked. Will I still be able to install custom roms ..
Thanks
like what lol? cookies home tab will let you change near enough the whole of the main screen, in the themes and apps section you can get different clocks, wallpapers, etc, you just have to have a look around this leo section mate, may take you a few days to figure it all out but its a great forum and loads of stuff on here, to do anything, if you look through this thread you can see what can be done
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=582619
do you have the 1024MB ROM?? use this thread = http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=653614
if you have 512MB use this thread = http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=609477
if you not sure, slide the slider all the way to the end and scroll down to the bottom and click on about phone then hardware information, and look at flash size that is the ROM size then start reading either thread
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like what lol? cookies home tab will let you change near enough the whole of the main screen, in the themes and apps section you can get different clocks, wallpapers, etc, you just have to have a look around this leo section mate, may take you a few days to figure it all out but its a great forum and loads of stuff on here, to do anything, if you look through this thread you can see what can be done
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thank u .. will check out ... This forum is great .. can get help in minutes ...
Thank u again ...
I have been trying to figure out what is HSPL , SPL ,SSPL and OSPL
What is the differnce
Could u help me with that ...
Thanks
this is where you will get me lol, right hspl is hard sspl is soft, i think and dont quote me but hspl is only needed once its needed for custom roms, you need hspl or sspl to be able to install a custom tom, what you have to do though is work out which model you have i edited my post look up, once you no thar there is 2 links you will need 1 of them and then it will near enough talk you straight through.
ok just realised the 2 links above i posted if you look at post number 2 in either of them it explains hspl and sspl
u r help ful my friend ...Thank u ..
if your on t mobile in the uk i'd reccomend the rom update thats available on the htc site (if your gonna stick with the stock rom) Its a lot less buggy. If your in the US then ignore this!
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if your on t mobile in the uk i'd reccomend the rom update thats available on the htc site (if your gonna stick with the stock rom) Its a lot less buggy. If your in the US then ignore this!
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All the us version T-mobile devices have 1024MB roms.
SPL (secondry program loader aka the boot loader) is basically the bios of the phone. The SSPL is the soft secondry program loader and the OSPL is the original secondry program loader (ie the stock spl). HSPL is the hard (or hacked) secondry program loader and this is required to install custom roms. There are 2 versions of this (hspl and hspl2) the second is applicable to all devices including tmous devices and is recommended. if you want to use hspl, use the same hspl version as your ospl. The ospl/hspl can be upgraded but i havent done this. There is also another application that may interest to you and that is customruu. This allows you to update the radio firmware for your device to a newer version. This has advantages such as better effiency for the GSM, wifi and bluetooth chips thus extending the battery life.
Most of the cooked roms out there are based on the tmous (T-mobile US) 2.10 and above roms. These are WM 6.5.3 and 6.5.5 based and feature better finger support. They also feature seveal fixes including an updated camera driver to fix the camera flash over exposure problem.
I, personally, prefer to stay with the stock roms and tweak them as i don't take many night photos and speed for me is the main thing. You can do this by runnning through the 2 tweaks sticky threads and with the help of phm registry editor. On the speed front there are (for me atleast) a couplel programs that are must haves. These are, netrippers LCS and chainfires 3D gfx driver. Combined with the performance tweaks these eliminate the lag of the stock UI and go as far as making it very fluid and responsive.
I hope this helps
M3PH
there are three hspl versions, not two.
the tmous (t mobile usa hd2, the one with 1024 rom) has its own variant of hspl2, usually referred to as hspl1024.
you said you were on t mobile but not which tmo. is very important to distinguish between tmous and all the others. if it IS a tmous then you need to be really sure about the pitfalls before you flash.if you have a normal hd2 (512 flash size in settings about phone hardware info) then things couldn't be simpler. hspl 2 then any rom you like.
is handy to have your country flag and carrier logo on in your profile, as that can usually tell us which phone you likely have.
Just got a HTC HD2 a week ago, been playing with ROMs since I got it and having a blast doing it. I was noticing that things are extremely unorgainized when trying to find the ROMs, where to download them (also having to download them off the free mirrors), what exactly changed, etc...
Was thinking of building a website, where all the cookers can upload their ROMs, provide a change log for each individual ROM, be able to display the different versions of their ROM. Provide details about their ROM (look, functionality, etc...). Then in each cookers section, people can post comments / questions for that individual ROM. I tried providing more details below of how the structure would work.
For the break down of content management I was thinking:
PHONE MODEL > COOKER / ROM > LANGUAGE > ROM VERSION > ROM DOWNLOAD
Phone Model - For now I would just be doing the HTC HD2, but if this caught on, would be up for doing more phones.
Cooker / Rom - This would be area for the cooker to show off his / her ROM, with pictures, description, anything else they want to say. This would also be the area where people can post questions / comments, that would be easily responded to by the cooker or another user.
Language - Notice that lots of cookers like to create their ROMs in different languages, this way, it is very easy to find the ROM in your language.
Rom Version - Display all the versions of that ROM in that Language
Rom Download - Change log for that specific Rom Version would be displayed and allow you to download the ROM (I would be hosting the website, so everyone would just be directly downloading off the website, no mirrors, etc...).
Like I said, it is just a idea. Let me know what you think!
i don't mean to be instantly negative, but it gets talked about every few months, and a few people even make a start(have a look through the regular hd2 section, theres at least one rom index project, possibly two,complete with little-used websites.)
problem is you need to get all the chefs on board, and most of them just don't care for the extra time and work involved.
best of luck, none the less.
I would be doing all the work. the chefs would really be uploading the roms and change log that's about it.
as i said, best of luck, it would indeed be usefull, im just passing on my experience of these type of projects.
(another point to consider is that quite a few of these roms have been downloaded hundreds of thousands of times, , at around 200meg each, can your server manage that? at a speed that people will be OK with? day in day out? you can bet that right this second as i type, there are probably a dozen downloads happening, thats a gig and a half, concurrently.... thats a lot of bandwidth)
yeah totally get what you mean. reason why I posted this to see if the cookers would even want to do this before I did all this work.
the bandwidth would be no problem, think I should just post this under windows development?
I totally agree and am willing to help!
Thanks, you have any knowledge in HTML / CSS / PHP / MySQL? Not going to start on the project, unless I can at least get a handful of cookers who are at least willing to just upload the ROMs to the server. I would be even willing to go as far as to get all the initial content up for the ROM, then hopefully the cookers would just upload new ROMs and submit a change log for that ROM version. The backend I would be creating for this website, will be very easy to use, and really would not take them much time.
But the biggest thing is getting them on board, see if any post in this thread.
great idea
I also think that having a website to organize these roms out there is a great idea. It can be very handy for new users who want to try out different alternatives with hd2. I think everyone including the experienced users would like to just go to one place for downloads and check out new updates. if you had the website done, everyone from this forum will check it out since we don't see much over here (we do have some threads about rom, but its just links to other thread, not organized enough). I will be very happy if someone like you can build a website for these roms.
Yeah, was also thinking of allowing users to subscribe to ROMs they like, so when a cooker releases a new version of their ROM, they would get a email, letting them know a new version is out!
Just to try to get the ball rolling on this, going to just ask the cookers just to upload their ROMs to my server and that is all. I will pull all the other information myself, at least for now, see how well it catches on.
There's already pretty good sites for that.. www.xda-roms.com and xdaroms.com !
xdaroms.com does not seem to bad, but they don't even have up to date roms, very cluttered website, etc... was going for most up to date rom / extremely clean / easy to use website.
logcomptechs said:
Just got a HTC HD2 a week ago, been playing with ROMs since I got it and having a blast doing it. I was noticing that things are extremely unorgainized when trying to find the ROMs, where to download them (also having to download them off the free mirrors), what exactly changed, etc...
Was thinking of building a website, where all the cookers can upload their ROMs, provide a change log for each individual ROM, be able to display the different versions of their ROM. Provide details about their ROM (look, functionality, etc...). Then in each cookers section, people can post comments / questions for that individual ROM. I tried providing more details below of how the structure would work.
For the break down of content management I was thinking:
PHONE MODEL > COOKER / ROM > LANGUAGE > ROM VERSION > ROM DOWNLOAD
Phone Model - For now I would just be doing the HTC HD2, but if this caught on, would be up for doing more phones.
Cooker / Rom - This would be area for the cooker to show off his / her ROM, with pictures, description, anything else they want to say. This would also be the area where people can post questions / comments, that would be easily responded to by the cooker or another user.
Language - Notice that lots of cookers like to create their ROMs in different languages, this way, it is very easy to find the ROM in your language.
Rom Version - Display all the versions of that ROM in that Language
Rom Download - Change log for that specific Rom Version would be displayed and allow you to download the ROM (I would be hosting the website, so everyone would just be directly downloading off the website, no mirrors, etc...).
Like I said, it is just a idea. Let me know what you think!
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I think this is a great idea... kudos n all the support to you... i have been driving myself crazy trying to sift through the threads n get a sense of what's what... we should totally factor in the time line of releases to make informed decisionmaking easier..
also, speaking of, anybody knows which thread has the best(stable+complete) version of android for the tmous hd2? not that i havent searched but the results of search are quite overwhelming to an extent they act as a deterrent for me to try some rom that might brick my phone.
Now that I have the support of some of the cookers, going to go ahead start on the project, will keep everyone updated!
Sounds great ... I wish I could help but I really do not know anything about websites/html and such stuff
But just wanted to let you know that this is a good idea and such a website is definitely much needed with so many ROMs out there ...
I like the idea, and hope it works well for you! You are probably already aware, but just thought I'd point out that there are chefs out there who don't post on xda. Ark_N is one that comes to mind over at htcpedia dot com. I'm sure people know of others??
http://htcpedia.com/
its already done my friend
Really looking forward to how this turns out...thank you for taking the time to do this.
If you like to see something change on XdaRoms.com let me know. I am also looking for help in getting the word out. HtcPedia doesn't allow you to really search through roms. A lot of chefs there repost over an old post so if you enjoyed an older rom better than the new one you can no longer find it. With XdaRoms.com I wanted the ability to have all versions of a rom available to search through. I also have the ability for Chefs to add a template to their account which you can generate a complete forum post based on a rom by just clicking a button. From there you can copy and paste the forum post and you don't have to write out the same stuff each time. The issue you will run into is mass adoption as others have pointed out. If you really want to help out and make things easier you should use what I have already created and pitch in to make it better.
Sorry to drag up an old thread
I started XDA-Roms.com a while back, because I wanted to learn PHP and also to give people an alternate to RapidShare etc. While I was fairly sucessful in learning PHP, I really do not like the code at all, and need to start again fresh, probably in ASP
I have seen a few of my ideas end up on other ROM sites, which is cool becauase we are all here for the same reason, XDA ROMs.
Unfortunatly, since I started XDA-Roms.com, my work pattern changed and I have not be able to spare the time to keep the site up to date (code or ROMs). Hopefully, I will re-write the site soon-ish and allow chefs to upload their own ROMs (the user interface is there, just not the backend upload code).
In an ideal world, I guess all the ROM sites would end up with the same ROMs, just presented to the viewers in different ways. Personally, im not looking for graphics on my site, just all the ROMs
With all this being said, if there are some ROMs people want uploading, PM me and I will upload them.