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2.2 vs 2.2.1 changes

Everyone wants 2.2.1 but what are the benefits over 2.2?
Reason I ask is that I updated from 2.1 to 2.2 last night. Feels much snappier so far.
Should we just be waiting for gingerbread?
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I had Quadrant score 857 on stock Eclair (XWJM2). This went up to almost 1000 after I re-partitioned to XWJPA/XXJPP/OXAJPO. With XXJPX I have score of 1182. So I guess there is some improvement
I haven't been using 2.2 though, so I can compare only Quadrant score here…

The Quadrant leap is nothing to do with the fact that it is 2.2.1, but more the fact that Samsung finally got their **** together and made a new kernel and optimised the rom I believe.
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The mail app is not laggy or slow anymore.
Performance on the phone is awesome
Camera/Video interface/menu a little different.
When caller calls you can press power to mute the ringer ... it was in 2.1 but not in the 2.2 ... now 2.2.1 its back
Battery seems to be better.

Gallery now shows most recent first. I don't know if there was ever a setting for that but its a biggie for me. Saves me scrolling through 500 odd pictures to find the one I just took.
And the phone is just so fast. I'm super happy with JPX
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Also start up time is quick.

You can input UK post codes in the ZIP code field before it only allowed numbers.

Sound good, I'm waiting for stable Doc's XXJPX rom release

BuddyLee said:
When caller calls you can press power to mute the ringer ... it was in 2.1 but not in the 2.2 ... now 2.2.1 its back
Battery seems to be better.
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This feature was in 2.1, 2.2 and now 2.2.1 however in 2.1 you had to use vol down key and in froyo power button.
Cheers!

Boots up super quick now.
Performance has improved big time to the point where i havent even bothered reapplying a lag fix to it, as i cant see it making much of a difference now.
Its kinda sad really. I always liked messing with my phone but they have done such a good job with 2.2.1 that theres not really much to mess with now.

Some things ive noticed in 2.2.1
Quicker boot time
Better battery life
Advanced exchange email options (peak, non peak time)
Facebook sync notifications work flawlessly
Web browser speed improved over leaked JPU
Contact list has full A-Z

Separate wallpaper for lock screen.

Dont think it has been mentioned but you can now use the stock headphones to change songs via the mircophone. Double pressing in quick succession allows this.
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hi,
anyone knows how to sort apps from A-Z. i have upgrade sgs from 2.2 to 2.2.1, and now all my apps are disorder?
thanks!

very good, but lag is there
The 2.2.1 update is pretty good actually. I'm impressed.
The lag is less visible, but it's still there. Especially for the NewsRob application which I use very frequently during the day.
It's very unlikely but I just hope that Samsung switches to ext4 like Nexus S did.

Games are smoother. I used to have occasional stutter.
If you are using stock 2.2 try the game Ant Smasher.
After installing 2.2.1, the game is smooth.
Installed the game on a friend's 2.2, the same lag appears.

zolah said:
Boots up super quick now.
Performance has improved big time to the point where i havent even bothered reapplying a lag fix to it, as i cant see it making much of a difference now.
Its kinda sad really. I always liked messing with my phone but they have done such a good job with 2.2.1 that theres not really much to mess with now.
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Doesn't RFS generate lots of garbage (system error data) over time, which results in the system lag. EXT4 shouldn't do that... So isn't theres still some point in using a lagfix?

create a directory called media on the sd with a ringtones directory in that and move your rings there stops them showing in the music player. Just like the N1 does. Will probly work with nofification and alarms as well

I flashed JPX last night (over the top of full JPU), product code was KOR, used the dial method to change to XEU, factory reset and the battery drains really quick!
Anyone else experience this and know if there's a cause or fix?
I find the performance on 2.2.1 MUCH faster and smoother than 2.2 (JPO).

Stock browser in jpx only allows 4 pages instead of 8. Don't think it bothers me. I was always closing down pages anyway
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Opinions on the stock 2.2 Froyo anyone?

Hi guys,
I can't comment yet as I'm getting my Wildfire for Christmas, but I have been following the forum for quite a while now
I know it's not the Desire, so I don't expect the same kind of performance, but I'm sure the Wildfire will cover all my "phone" necessities for a while.
Just wondering what your experiences have been so far with the new OTA stock Froyo.
It seems that opinions are split, some say it works smoother others say it doesn't, etc...
Could you let us all know what you rate and what not on the, really rather long awaited, 2.2 upgrade and if it was worth the wait?

Nice question. Well put.
I'm in the same boat with you. I could update right now if I wanted, but.. I need to know that I _need_ to, that there are advantages beyond the apps2sd, chrome2phone, new gmail app, etc. Advantage(s) as in speed, stability, less ram, less space, less battery..

No speed improvement..
More memory usage..
OTA removes root, updates HBOOT and then you CANT'T root it with Unrevoked at this moment.

It's been said that 2.2 is 4.5 times faster than 2.1 ->
But how does that reflect on Wildfire?
Linpack is an app that measures the speed ( greenecomputing.com/apps/linpack/ ). You can go through some scores sent by users at greenecomputing.com/apps/linpack/latest-posts/
Would be nice to have users score their wildfire on 2.1 , and then score it on 2.2

Yes, it's been stated. But, as it appears, this release is not with enabled JIT compiler, which was the reason of such performance improvement. Or maybe the JIT is on but it doesn't impact the performance on Wildfire..
I have tested updated Wildfire with linpack and got ridiculous score of 1,45.
While mine with Openfire v2.3 ROM scores 2.4 - 3.0 (depends on overclock settings).

Before the update my wildfire had an MFLOP value of 1.174. The MFLOP value now is 0.94.. 20 percent LOWER than on the Eclair! It is even that worse that just one hourer ago my phone was just blocked and it had to reboot itself.
I realy tought that the froyo would be faster, thats what you read everyware. So a did a effort to get it (my phone was rooted), and now I'm stuck with a ROM that is slower than the previous one and, as drioo mentioned, I cannot change to an other one.
I'm thinking about a factory reset, perhaps that will do the trick.
But before this, and as the mather of fact, also now, I just love the phone

My phone scores around 2.289 - 2300 MFLOPS with no overclock and with stock Froyo, dont know how much it was on 2.1. And Froyo sucks my battery very well =/.

tommikcz said:
My phone scores around 2.289 - 2300 MFLOPS with no OC and stock Froyo, dont know how much it was on 2.1. And Froyo sucks my battery very well =/.
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How much quicker is it draining your battery? Can you still get a full day's worth of use?
Could it be that you have been "playing" more than usual with it because of the upgrade?

ErwinP said:
Before the update my wildfire had an MFLOP value of 1.174. The MFLOP value now is 0.94.. 20 percent LOWER than on the Eclair! It is even that worse that just one hourer ago my phone was just blocked and it had to reboot itself.
I realy tought that the froyo would be faster, thats what you read everyware. So a did a effort to get it (my phone was rooted), and now I'm stuck with a ROM that is slower than the previous one and, as drioo mentioned, I cannot change to an other one.
I'm thinking about a factory reset, perhaps that will do the trick.
But before this, and as the mather of fact, also now, I just love the phone
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Let us know if the reset helped please

Haven't real seen any benefits other than the install to SD card options, its no faster and app brain fast install no longer works. Is there away to revert to 2.1 ?
Also do live wallpapers work now I downloaded one but don't know how to apply them.
Sent from my HTC Wildfire

awink1 said:
How much quicker is it draining your battery? Can you still get a full day's worth of use?
Could it be that you have been "playing" more than usual with it because of the upgrade?
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With 2.1 my phone's battery could last more than 3 days with normal use without need of recharging. Now it was 23 hours with same use when I had to recharge it again. First I thought it was because of task killers that are killing apps and Froyo is launching them again, it was draining my battery 1% by a minute =D. I've uninstalled all taskkillers, but something is still draining my battery more than Eclair.
I'm thinking about factory reset and updating again with no custom apps installed, but I'm not sure if it will help.

I am a bit neutral. Wifi tether and appstoSD are nice extras. But the performance did not increase that much. So not that great then I expected it to be. Can't do much about it now, I used OTA in thinking it would be great. So my HBOOT will be locked for some time untill the wizzkids get her cracked again. Then I will just overclock that sucker again

Is anyone having or not having issues with eduroam wifi networks after upgrading Wildfire to Froyo? --> Help please

ErwinP said:
Before the update my wildfire had an MFLOP value of 1.174. The MFLOP value now is 0.94.. 20 percent LOWER than on the Eclair! It is even that worse that just one hourer ago my phone was just blocked and it had to reboot itself.
I realy tought that the froyo would be faster, thats what you read everyware. So a did a effort to get it (my phone was rooted), and now I'm stuck with a ROM that is slower than the previous one and, as drioo mentioned, I cannot change to an other one.
I'm thinking about a factory reset, perhaps that will do the trick.
But before this, and as the mather of fact, also now, I just love the phone
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Thanks. Your message made me cancel my update download, and think of the things that I managed to do with Wildfire on Android 2.1, like:
- good setup (homescreen, widgets, etc)
- voice search active (although i must admit.. now that i have it, i don't use it)
- tasker
- etc, etc.. customizations and then some more to make the phone "my phone"
Do I want something more? NO! Well, I would like it to be just a tad faster, maybe even consume a bit less battery at times.
The rest..
- ChromeToPhone - dunno what others use this for, but I would mainly use it to download APKs. But.. there's Dropbox for that
- Tethering - no need
- Apps2SD (= more space) - well, it's good to have some sort of limitation. God knows what sort of crap I'd install otherwise that would just rotten on the SD
- newer gmail&co apps - the current one is just fine
- etc, etc
I CAN LIVE WITHOUT!
I need to tell myself I can live without the latest update, the latest gadget.
So Android 2.1, I stay with you!
PS: I love Wildfire as well. Perfect shape (not a brick!), good battery time, almost ok CPU, good price

Battery works fine, even better then before froyo.
Way faster, more stable.
App2SD
C2DM push notifications
New gmail app and youtube app.
Support for 2.2 apps.
Wifi tethering
Security improvements
Lockscreen pin instead of pattern.
Better Exchange/hotmail Activesync support.
and so on.
The new market is included and will be pushed to other devices over the coming weeks even if you have 2.1.
Google market updates are pushed through google and not HTC.
If your device runs slower do a factory reset.

the only problem my wife had after the update is that froyo had disabled her APN settings (3G) and all had to be enabled/add settings.
other than that all is good , even a bit more responsive on the touch.

@ Skye Menjou & webjunky
did your phones have a lot of modifications done prior to upgrading to froyo?
I am starting to see a trend emerging (me thinks), that those that had already heavily customised their phones are the ones that are experiencing the same or slightly worse performance of the Wildfire after the upgrade.
What do you guys think?

My non-branded, never-rooted Wildfire runs much, much faster with the Froyo update. I did hard-reset the phone after the upgrade. No problems with battery life - if anything it's better than it was (there's also a great HTC battery widget available on the Froyo ROM).
Other advantages of the Froyo update that I've actually used/noticed include the Wi-Fi hotspot, tethering, updated apps including a new camera app and additional apps seem to be showing up in the market.
Great work by HTC... I've had this phone for about a month and already got a software upgrade that makes it even better
Now... if only they'll give us access to htcsense.com

I've noticed that loading your battery is going faster. Today, my battery was in half a hour full.

I don't have anything rom or Kernel related flashed
I do have a lot of apps installed.Like swype ,touchdown and others.
A lot of my default settings are modified.
Most people have problems due crapware.
Badly written apps with terrible system hooks.
That or they rooted it and installed the half working roms or the clockwork mod.
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Is anyone impressed with froyo so far?

I think having flash is cool. Doesn't seem as good to me as the oc'ed dl09 blackhole I was running before. Seems glitchy and temperamental. I haven't run one rom for a few days to let things settle in but that's because it just isn't doing it for me yet.
Maybe when the kinks are worked out and there is an overclocked voodoo option it will be more to my liking.
Some of the controls do not seem as intuitive either such as settings that have to be activated through an action or haptic having to be turned on but vibration intensity set to zero to turn it off when typing in different apps.
I see why verizon and samsung don't throw it on the market as is.
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Im running Rubik's and am extremely impressed. I feel like it does everything faster. Only thing I find that has taken a step backwards is the web browser. It seems a little slower and doesn't autosize websites when I double tap.
Really that's my only thing ... I'm not seeing a lot of the bugs that have been reported by users.
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i second the rubik's post. but alltogether, froyo is kind of...
lame. everyone said we shouldn't get our panties in a bunch over it. and they were right. it seems to cause just about as many problems as it fixed.
so again, i guess we go back to hating samsung code dev. why can't this just be a google native phone? when android started that was the idea right?
(of course this is most likely due to the difference in hardware, but its still fun to blame samsung).

I actually find the browser to definitely load sites a bit faster than Eclair's -- which should be expected since a browser performance boost is one of Froyo's top-billed features.
That said, I think people need to remember that this (DL30) is almost certainly not a release that will ever see the official light of day. Simply put, we're running a leak that was never supposed to get out. There are obvious bugs (like long-pressing search) and quite likely more than a few non-obvious bugs too. Heck, Droid Life already has pictures of a newer Froyo ROM with all the expected Verizon bloatware (Blockbuster, Bing, etc.), so that just adds support to the idea that DL30 simply isn't ready for primetime.
But I do have to say this: whether on stock Android or not, Froyo does offer a measurable performance boost over Eclair. Anyone who says otherwise really should take a look at the benchmarks performed by quite literally every major tech blog and news site out there. Of course it's not like getting a new phone, but it truly is a noticeable speed boost. So why aren't we seeing much if anything noticeable now? That should be obvious: bloatware aside, once again, we're simply running an unfinished ROM.

Froyo is great. Please don't complain about it. People worked hard for this. We don't need your discouragement, this will develope more, just give it time
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The wait for Froyo's feature set was for me, secondary to the wait for the development boost. The guys on our forum do great things, but noone wants to be working with 2.1.
This brings us to the proper foundation to build from.
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It's OK.
It only confirmed what i already knew. That our XDA developers are the true innovators and the only ROMS i care about are theirs.
I was one of those that frequently said Froyo was not a big deal. I installed it, and my thoughts are mixed.
Was it worth the wait? well there are things that i liked and things not to like.
Here's what i liked. For starters, I have a galaxy tab and when i installed my games onto my Fascinate they didn't work. I suspected it was because of Froyo 2.2. I was right. They all came to life on Froyo. Pocket legends HD is spectacular. I also am able to use Kongregate now as well as Hulu (with mod). The email reader was slicker and the facebook integration smoother.
Here's what i disliked. While i've had no bugs (i re-installed a stock image first), it is slower, less bells and whistles than my previously fabulous Custom Rom's and themes. and of course back to bloated touchwiz junk. I did put adw, but it still seems slower than before. Most of the upgrades were under the hood and to be honest i never really felt them.
I miss my custom themes, but for now i'll keep this froyo and wait for themes ported to it to give it my final opinion.

Froyo delivered what I wanted it to deliver:
- A GMail app that has almost all of the features I need
- A contact list that sorts by last name
- The ability to move apps to my SD card
- Fully functioning Flash
I am happy....

Slower then my dj05....period.

Falcyn said:
I actually find the browser to definitely load sites a bit faster than Eclair's -- which should be expected since a browser performance boost is one of Froyo's top-billed features.
That said, I think people need to remember that this (DL30) is almost certainly not a release that will ever see the official light of day. Simply put, we're running a leak that was never supposed to get out. There are obvious bugs (like long-pressing search) and quite likely more than a few non-obvious bugs too. Heck, Droid Life already has pictures of a newer Froyo ROM with all the expected Verizon bloatware (Blockbuster, Bing, etc.), so that just adds support to the idea that DL30 simply isn't ready for primetime.
But I do have to say this: whether on stock Android or not, Froyo does offer a measurable performance boost over Eclair. Anyone who says otherwise really should take a look at the benchmarks performed by quite literally every major tech blog and news site out there. Of course it's not like getting a new phone, but it truly is a noticeable speed boost. So why aren't we seeing much if anything noticeable now? That should be obvious: bloatware aside, once again, we're simply running an unfinished ROM.
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According to quadrant...I'm running 115mhz slower on dl30 with a decrease of about 3 mflops...so I'd say it is not faster. It's actually very...apparent

Overall, I'm happy with it. Selecting text and cut/copy/paste is vastly improved, it's got built-in screen capture, better multitouch, better g-mail client and I can now use the full Skype app.
The little glitches need to be accepted in so far as we *are* using a leak. There are reasons Verizon hasn't released this yet, and chances are, these are those reasons.

so far I'm loving the 2.2 leak. Working great.

Pfredd said:
Froyo delivered what I wanted it to deliver:
- A GMail app that has almost all of the features I need
- A contact list that sorts by last name
- The ability to move apps to my SD card
- Fully functioning Flash
I am happy....
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Moving apps to SD card
is there are ROM that has this feature included?

Right now everything is definitely faster than my completely stock fascinate. The only thing that doesn't work is the included email and Google maps and navigation which is a little annoying

Are you kidding? Flash, new Gmail, sort contacts, add ringtones without having to create a phone contact, and Chrome to Phone. I can't tell you how often I use Chrome to Phone. Anytime I need to install a zip, I just send it right to my phone. Overall, I have to say 2.2 is a very nice improvement over 2.1.

For me, the DL09 w/voodoo was the best overall Fascinate experience... but coming from a Froyo'd OG Droid... I really missed Chrome to Phone and Flash... so that's why I am running DL30.
What I am hoping for? DL09 Voodoo performance with DL30 features... I am gonna stick with DL30 for now (as switching back from DL09 Voodoo bricked my phone) and hope that we can get Voodoo like performance soon enough...
def

I did the stock (rooted) leak and then went to Superclean for Froyo. Superclean can be modded with blackhole elements and other tweaks you can find in the forum. Bottom line? I get faster performance and less lag. The browser works faster and it is a cleaner integration. My only issue now is battery life. I was getting very good battery life with my old setup. So I wiped bat stats, reinstalled clean after wiping everything, etc. and it still doesn't seem right. When I check usage it seems to overly point out display (like 95% of battery usage). I'm not sure what's going on but I'm up to about nine hours of battery life so it's good enough. I'm hoping some of these things will get resolved as time goes by. Any wisdom, let me know. Overall, froyo works well and will only get better.
One note. I was noticing the browser issue as well. Go to the settings in the browser and that will take care of it. Apparently "resize" isn't the default as it should be.

The Froyo Gmail app allows me to send outbound mail from all the addresses I have set up in my Gmail account - a significant improvement from the pre-Froyo version which only sends outbound mail from your main Gmail address.

onemotodroid said:
Moving apps to SD card
is there are ROM that has this feature included?
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The stock ROM has it. You need to go to Settings / Applications / Manage Applications. Click on the app you want to move. If the app supports moving, the "Move to SD card" button will be active. Just press that button.

Now that I have Blackhole 4.1 the experience is getting better. Seems to be running smoother.
Can't wait for voodoo and oc'ed kernels.

DI18 2.1 unrooted > DK28 2.2 rooted

I've been playing around with this phone a lot since I got it. Today, I flashed back to DI18 and left it unrooted and found myself astonished at how much better the overall performance is.
DK28 is garbage.
If this is old news, I apologize... I just got this phone a week ago.

huh? i've only had my phone since tuesday, i haven't rooted it as of yet... but i wanted to see what that froyo is all about.

Don't do it. It's fun to play with, but like the OP said, if you want something that works reliably and well, stay stock.

Bonsai dk28 works great for me, but to each his own.
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I have nothing against people who experiment with different baked ROMs on their phones--after all, where would we be without 'em?--but the performance of stock 2.1 on my Epic was already solid enough that I only really felt I needed to root for a few specific apps. I think any flashing I was going to do was always going to wait until official 2.2 was out and more development is done. I am jonesing for the new features and hopefully speed but am patient.

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Bonsai dk28 works great for me, but to each his own.
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Agree bonsai is fantastic, no bugs what so ever and very clean and fast. Way better then 2.1 stock battery life ia about the same.
i wont go back to d118, i will miss hulu and, humans vs, aliens and andy 83 those apps only work on 2.2 and my phone has been running fantastic and way better then d118.
GPS works better!
Wifi Works perfect!
Orientation switch is fast!!
And what ever other bugs people are having im having 0

I'm running stock DK28 and it works absolutely flawless, dunno why so many have issues, I have none
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I agree with the OP. I was running Nebula 1.0.7 and things were smooth for me but I went back to stock and outside of the progs that require 2.2, things are solid at least for me. Now I'm running Syndicate with Xtreme kernel and I'm loving it until we get the official Froyo
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I want to go back to 2.1, but the ONLY thing that stops me is that I NEED GPS.
GPS on 2.1 is poop. I would have a hard time finding my peepee if it weren't for GPS.

I just did the exact same thing!
Running Nebula, was getting weird issues, so I went back to Syndicate with Xtreme kernel v1.2.
Ahh, everything is so snappy. I'll stick with this for a while.
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I agree with the OP. I was running Nebula 1.0.7 and things were smooth for me but I went back to stock and outside of the progs that require 2.2, things are solid at least for me. Now I'm running Syndicate with Xtreme kernel and I'm loving it until we get the official Froyo
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It sounds like most of the people who are noticing problems are using nebula. You guys should give bonsai a try.

Ryjabo said:
I've been playing around with this phone a lot since I got it. Today, I flashed back to DI18 and left it unrooted and found myself astonished at how much better the overall performance is.
DK28 is garbage.
If this is old news, I apologize... I just got this phone a week ago.
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Lolol! I have been saying exactly this for as long as I remember. Froyo is freaking jerky. The animation transitions are not smooth.
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Flashing to Midnight ROM 3.2 is the best thing I ever did.
I love my Epic 4G…I loved it with Eclair, and I am now using midNIGHT 3.2 BYOR and I love it. It’s benchmark scores are twice as fast as Eclair, and you can tell how fast and snappy the phone is. Here is a list of the things I like best that Froyo was needed for.
1. Chrome to Phone – Huge time saver and way more useful than I thought it was going to be, and I thought it would be useful, lol
2. Flash 10.1
3. The apps that needed Froyo for enhancement… Gmail, Youtube, Winamp (there is a station I like on Shoutcast and Winamp required Froyo for Shoutcast)
4. Google Docs – being able to edit Google Docs on the go. The reason I wanted a phone with a keyboard was for doing long emails and editing documents and spreadsheets. The on-screen keyboard is OK, but takes up a lot if real estate.
5. Moving apps to the SD Card – I am an app junkie and I need the space, lol
There are more things, but those are the most important to me. It is was like I got a new phone for a second time. Some of the other things I think that help make the phone better that are not Froyo “items” are the Gingerbread Keyboard (really, really good, better than iOS in my opinion), ASOP Lock Screen, and the EXT4 file system.
I still liked the phone when it had Eclair, and I wouldn’t go back and buy a different phone (and I like it on Froyo even better), it is nice hardware, awesome 5-row keyboard, and it’s AMOLED screen rocks and everyone who see’s it immediately compares it to their own back lit LCD screens, and develops a serious case of envy, lol. I am old enough to know that companies will be companies and will always make and break promises(Apple customers have to put up with a company that said their alarm was fixed in November to have it happen again in January and tells them they are holding their phone wrong). It would be nice if they always kept their promises, but they can’t. If companies were 100% honest, no one would buy their products just like if politicians were 100% honest, no one would vote for them. It would be nice to think we still would, but if we would….wouldn’t there already be 100% honest companies and politicians, lol

Zeinzu said:
I'm running stock DK28 and it works absolutely flawless, dunno why so many have issues, I have none
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Agreed.
Sent from Carl Sagan through the Cosmos

If Froyo is jerky and not smooth, you are doing something wrong. It works fine with a rom that isn't a piece of ****.

hazridi said:
If Froyo is jerky and not smooth, you are doing something wrong. It works fine with a rom that isn't a piece of ****.
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+1 bonsai runs way better then 2.1 and bettery life us slightly better...
Sent From My Bonsai Epic 4g

Been running TrulyEpic 1.5 and quite pleased with the performance, features, battery-life, etc. I really really like that it now boots in < 30 seconds. (I swap batteries instead of charging, so quick boot times are especially nice).
2.1 Eclair simply unusable because of the Calendar and Bluetooth Voice Search bugs.
But beyond that you're just wrong on performance in Eclair vs Froyo.

How many of you are happy with EB13?

I updated my Epic on the day EB13 was released. I used the update.zip using the stock recovery on my stock/rooted DI18 (no data/cache wipes before updating) which kept all my data and apps intact. After the update, the only problems I had were the one related to the camera (video lag in low light and still camera FC in sport mode), but after the kernel fix was introduced (thanks to mkasick) I have had absolutely ZERO, ZILCH, NADA, NO problems. Granted I am still using basically the stock EB13 rooted only with Launcher Pro, but everything has worked as it should (GPS, SMS, MMS, video recording, camera, music player, SD card, etc.). The only issue for me is probably the checkerboarding on the stock browser which is not a big deal for me anyways.
How many of you have been happy with your EB13 upgrade experience?

I am waiting for a custom ROM.

Mine worked good on stock and even better using the genocide kernel.
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I'm running a beta build of a custom rom and I couldn't be happier. I'm not having any of the issues reported
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I've been very happy with the upgrade, I haven't ran into any problems with this build. Now I'm just waiting for the developers to really start pushing out their releases! Dying to get my hands on a official CM6.2 and MiUi!
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Already running Midnight rom with the Genocide kernel. Getting great battery life and my GPS definitely feels improved. Haven't dropped signal during nav yet (knock on wood)
Can't wait for more Roms and especially updated Cyanogen and Miui like above.

Running EB13 with midNIGHT ROM 4.1....my phone runs great, better than when it was on a DK28 mod

Mine runs great all stock EB13

raylusk said:
Mine worked good on stock and even better using the genocide kernel.
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Whats the genocide kernel? what advantages does it have over the stock eb13 kernel?

shahin26 said:
Whats the genocide kernel? what advantages does it have over the stock eb13 kernel?
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The Genocide Kernel, is a kernel made my one of the Devs here. You can find it's thread in the Development section for more details.
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I was using stock EB13 with no problems..today I flashed the genocide kernel since I figure it can't hurt to have more battery life...
As for checker-boarding on the browser..coming from a TP2..I hardly call that checkerboarding lol

as for the checkerboarding browser, does anyone know if that is only on the stock browser, or others such as Dolphin as well?

Running EB13 stock w/genocide, no complaints. I use the miren browser as my default.
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I flashed eb13 with the samsung exe and immediately got root access and changed over to deodexed/ext4 and with the lastest genocide kernel .... close to perfect ... with the overclock and pretty heavy use battery life is darn good, amazingly. My battery app estimates 11.5 hrs @ 58%. I'm constantly picking the thing up and using it today. All apps run fine and now the browser is substantially faster than the wifes laptop! Was just on the gamestop site with a flash game review playing along side a bunch of animated adds and it still played great. 1375/3020 smartbench. This is all the "phone" I'll need for some time to come! Since the camera fix in genocide kernel, all regrets are gone. Plus, if you love video media like I do, you MUST have 2.2 as the video decoding and audio decoding are sgnificantly improved. 2.1 would stutter a bit with very high bit rate stuff. 2.2 makes the best quality video play FLAWLESSLY. Never a dropped frame. Even @2mbit/sec. Watching a movie on my phone is nearly as pleasing as my well calibrated big screen.
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EB13 is pretty good. Except for the bt voice dialing not working. If you don't have this issue what update method and what rom are you running???
Epic 4g

I'm happy. the battery is lasting for up to 24 hours now. I even slept through the night without charging it and woke up to a not dead phone. oh the possibilities

stock eb13 w root and cam patch, couldnt b more pleased w my phone

Not me. Its seems much better at first. But when you start getting random fc's here and there it tells you somethings wrong. In all honestly I think 2.1 eclair ran this phone with ease like a current machine would run winxp. No problems and everythings snappy. Works the way its suppose to. Throw win7 in and now youve complicated things by adding in bore instruction sets that might conflict. Not to say that it isn't gonna work well but we can clearly see sprint was full of **** when they said they were thoroughly testing for bugs. Build the is from the ground up with gingerbread. Until that happens were gonna keep getting updates that fix **** instead of updates that turn our epics for the better. Its what this hardware deserves. Next year when tegra 2's are mainstream phonemena hummingbird will be the mid level tier. Even with 2.2 I still think this hardware has more to give.
My 2 cents.
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Not me. Its seems much better at first. But when you start getting random fc's here and there it tells you somethings wrong. In all honestly I think 2.1 eclair ran this phone with ease like a current machine would run winxp. No problems and everythings snappy. Works the way its suppose to. Throw win7 in and now youve complicated things by adding in bore instruction sets that might conflict. Not to say that it isn't gonna work well but we can clearly see sprint was full of **** when they said they were thoroughly testing for bugs. Build the is from the ground up with gingerbread. Until that happens were gonna keep getting updates that fix **** instead of updates that turn our epics for the better. Its what this hardware deserves. Next year when tegra 2's are mainstream phonemena hummingbird will be the mid level tier. Even with 2.2 I still think this hardware has more to give.
My 2 cents.
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That's impossible in all honesty. With the way people were crying about the 2.2 update to build something from kernel up and redo it people would be crying "gingerbread is taking too long" screw Samsung, and Sprint...

i odin'd back to DI18 a day before EB13 and only restored contacts.
once EB13 dropped, i wiped everything 3 times w/ clockwork, upgraded via the update.zip method. Then did the 1 click root, and manually re-installed all my apps etc.
The one thing that really kills the 'new' froyo for me is the bluetooth problems still being present like on DK28. I got so damn irritated w/ DK28's bluetooth problems that i actually went back to 2.1
Now that i'm using EN13, I'm still pretty honked off but it hasn't irritated me enough yet to go back to eclair.. depends on how flaky the bluetooth becomes.
So far, I'm running stock EB13, 1 click root, genocide kernel installed yesterday) and gonna gauge battery life.
I'm really wanting to try out the MIUI and/or cyanogenmod once they're a little less buggy.. the devs are making great progress, but i need a fairly non-buggy phone for work so that's why i'm waiting (not complaining.. i experiment on the weekends w/ ROMs and such)
my .02