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Wrong section buddy should be in general. But ill answer this by saying . Cm will take the good and leave the bad.
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Everything is possible but it would be hard without the source code which samsung did not release...
Well actually we have the source the drivers and also the kernal source for 2.1.
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Everything is possible but it would be hard without the source code which samsung did not release...
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Ya samsung has released them
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Here's the link for the source. I just didn't know if the UI was included, that's all. It's the 8th link down at the time of this posting.
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The UI (and some of the kernel drivers - eg RFS) are not included.
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The UI (and some of the kernel drivers - eg RFS) are not included.
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bah, that's a real shame
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bah, that's a real shame
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Well ill love to see cm6 in it's natural form the vibrants ui feels like a iphone clone to me
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Given the fact that Cyanogen ROMs are always based off ASOP builds, I highly doubt TouchWiz will be present for the Galaxy S Cyanogen ROM. Their alpha ROMs for the EVO 4G and Incredible doesn't have Sense UI, so I'm sure it'll be no different for the Galaxy S phones.
Ok maybe I should have said that we have the source but its missing parts. Blah blah . And even though cyan is based off the aosp they can bake anything in they want including some of the twiz stuff but this still isn't development so .........
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Cyanogen has publicly expressed distaste for the non-vanilla Android roms. I'm sure anything that comes out with his name on it will be without Touchwiz/Sense/Motoblur.
I HIGHLY doubt CM 6 will ever have anything touchwiz based, it goes against the idea behind the project.
I'm not a huge fan of twiz either just saying he could do anything he wants
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I'm not a huge fan of twiz either just saying he could do anything he wants
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I actually like certain aspects of TouchWiz, mainly the ease of access to BT, WiFi, etc from the notification bar, but CM releases have always stayed away from any sort of manufacturer-developed modifications to Android like Sense, TouchWIz, Blur, etc. There are always ported builds using those UI's available and Im sure they will be eventually for the vibrant, but first we need a stock AOSP-based build.
The settings in the notification bar are awesome . If cm did use anything I hope its that.
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Cyanogen & Crew do like borrowing bits and pieces, so the setting in the notification bar could wind up on a release eventually. But TW will most certainly be out. Thankfully.
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Cyanogen & Crew do like borrowing bits and pieces, so the setting in the notification bar could wind up on a release eventually. But TW will most certainly be out. Thankfully.
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i hope we get settings in the notification bar at least, especially the slide to adjust brightness, it's pure genius!
CM will not include TouchWiz because it is not open source software. The only part that Samsung has open sourced is the kernel, not any part of Android. They've provided the bits to allow other builds of Android to run on their phones (mostly), but not their version of Android.
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guys i like my super clean rom for DL09 but the one thing i miss about my OG droid is that when ever i flashed a rom it would add features that would make it more compelling to stick with. The only thing i see with the fascinate roms are de-binging with no new features added not saying the devs don't work hard its just are there any roms out there that add features not specifing to which but just saying add them
On super clean, you can put DJ05 theme over it. Make sure to install DL09_aosp_lock_theme_hax after flashing the theme; it makes DJ05 themes compatible.
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On super clean, you can put DJ05 theme over it. Make sure to install DL09_aosp_lock_theme_hax after flashing the theme; it makes DJ05 themes compatible.
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bro i am sorry but that doesn't answer any question i was asking
They are coming, pk and jt are working to bring 2.2 asap. Bird is bringing 2.3. Luckily, there are not too many differences in the RIL between 2.2 and 2.3 for the developers. However, birdman has said that this phone is on 1.5 RIL.
okay so everyone knows what i am talking about google miui when i had that on my d1 it literally made me think i had a new phone
It will come...give it time.
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Right now most of the development work is going into digging the community out of the ditch Samsung abandoned our near-dead bodies in. Once out of said ditch, then various nifty features should start appearing (especially with CM on the Fascinate).
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Right now most of the development work is going into digging the community out of the ditch Samsung abandoned our near-dead bodies in. Once out of said ditch, then various nifty features should start appearing (especially with CM on the Fascinate).
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I did like the kaosacinate when it gets more features working I will flip back
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BlackHoleSlam said:
I did like the kaosacinate when it gets more features working I will flip back
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woo hoo im getting a fascinate soon
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woo hoo im getting a fascinate soon
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Yes jamez ur on here dude if u do can we look forward to an miui port
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So, when do you think we will see a Gingerbread Bionix build?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8E_zMLCRNg
Rofl best second post In years. As far as op. Well see it when its done. I think its only one guy working on it (krylon360 as far as I know).
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Lulz at second post
Team Whiskey is working on it....they have an experimental build in the Development section.....now i think they're messing with the Vibrant 4g ROM port
Can't wait foe it..I'm guessing end of march
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lmao that was pretty funny
To be perfectly honest. You're likely to see a 2.3 from Samsung first.
I'm not doubting these developers but its like they just like to theme up the same rom over and over. Pick any rom and its the exact same as the others , just a different theme and some minor tweaks. Tweaks you can find with a quick google.
I have 2.3.1 AOSP booting but 2d isn't working out for me. Some modules aren't building either.
Really vetvito?!?!?! Stop picking a fight.
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vetvito said:
To be perfectly honest. You're likely to see a 2.3 from Samsung first.
I'm not doubting these developers but its like they just like to theme up the same rom over and over. Pick any rom and its the exact same as the others , just a different theme and some minor tweaks. Tweaks you can find with a quick google.
I have 2.3.1 AOSP booting but 2d isn't working out for me. Some modules aren't building either.
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I know for a fact that these developers do more than "theme and tweak". They not only improve the current roms by increasing stability but they get the sources and build their own kernels and release them for good use. These devs make the vibrant a powerhouse. And they do it for free. So do your research bro
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So how many dev is working on a 2.3 right now?
CM7 and teamwhiskey?
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So how many dev is working on a 2.3 right now?
CM7 and teamwhiskey?
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right now, CM is working on CM7 for i9000. and krylon360 of teamwhiskey is working on a direct AOSP build for the vibrant. (CM7 and AOSP ARE different, believe it or not)
So right now, it's kinda split.
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To be perfectly honest. You're likely to see a 2.3 from Samsung first.
I'm not doubting these developers but its like they just like to theme up the same rom over and over. Pick any rom and its the exact same as the others , just a different theme and some minor tweaks. Tweaks you can find with a quick google.
I have 2.3.1 AOSP booting but 2d isn't working out for me. Some modules aren't building either.
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Well said.. Not trying to point fingers but most roms out there are a modified team whiskey or a eugene build.
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vetvito said:
To be perfectly honest. You're likely to see a 2.3 from Samsung first.
I'm not doubting these developers but its like they just like to theme up the same rom over and over. Pick any rom and its the exact same as the others , just a different theme and some minor tweaks. Tweaks you can find with a quick google.
I have 2.3.1 AOSP booting but 2d isn't working out for me. Some modules aren't building either.
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Removed. Not even worth it.
vetvito said:
To be perfectly honest. You're likely to see a 2.3 from Samsung first.
I'm not doubting these developers but its like they just like to theme up the same rom over and over. Pick any rom and its the exact same as the others , just a different theme and some minor tweaks. Tweaks you can find with a quick google.
I have 2.3.1 AOSP booting but 2d isn't working out for me. Some modules aren't building either.
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Not remotely accurate. Modules? Building? You show you don't know anything about development with your terminology.
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To be perfectly honest. You're likely to see a 2.3 from Samsung first.
I'm not doubting these developers but its like they just like to theme up the same rom over and over. Pick any rom and its the exact same as the others , just a different theme and some minor tweaks. Tweaks you can find with a quick google.
I have 2.3.1 AOSP booting but 2d isn't working out for me. Some modules aren't building either.
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Omgz this devz is working hard to get a mix of gingerhoneyizecream to our vibrants it will score infinity x2 on quadrant and give us 3d viewing glasses free once he can get the perpendicular modules from overwriting the system partitions. I CAN'T WAIT where is your donation link ?
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Omgz this devz is working hard to get a mix of gingerhoneyizecream to our vibrants it will score infinity x2 on quadrant and give us 3d viewing glasses free once he can get the perpendicular modules from overwriting the system partitions. I CAN'T WAIT where is your donation link ?
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god i love sarcasm on this forum.
Alex530 said:
Well said.. Not trying to point fingers but most roms out there are a modified team whiskey or a eugene build.
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Thank you, atleast someone sees the obvious.
I'm not pointing fingers or trying to be disrespectful.
Good day
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Well said.. Not trying to point fingers but most roms out there are a modified team whiskey or a eugene build.
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Team whiskey us legit, eugene is too(even though his kernels wiped my data and bricked my phone), but it does seem like our "development section is crowded with just a bunch of theme teams.... annoying a dev section should not allow 70% of them, all go to the themes and apps section lol
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WHY do people keep biting the hand that feeds? I do not understand.
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Thank you, atleast someone sees the obvious.
I'm not pointing fingers or trying to be disrespectful.
Good day
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You sir, are retarded.
No, not even retarded, just ignorant.
I mean if these devs aren't doing a good enough job for you why don't you just make the roms yourself? I don't care if you're pointing fingers, just don't bring that crap on here
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Nothing unrealistic or innapropriate
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Are you making a ROM?
I want CIQ removed, stable, fast, battery life optimized in the kernel settings, 1x/3G display support, honeycomb theme built in, and something that'll attract even MORE girls to me and my Epic.
I want aosp.
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Overstew said:
Are you making a ROM?
I want CIQ removed, stable, fast, battery life optimized in the kernel settings, 1x/3G display support, honeycomb theme built in, and something that'll attract even MORE girls to me and my Epic.
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So wait, you want SRF with the Honeycomb theme?
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So wait, you want SRF with the Honeycomb theme?
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Think he wants something that'll make the girls notice him and his epic even more as well though. ;P
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Think he wants something that'll make the girls notice him and his epic even more as well though. ;P
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Then he needs to put down the phone and hit the gym.
Though, on the subject of the ladies, ACS member dreamsforgotten has a great pink theme available...
I want reliable, fast, and no extras added in. ****..I want a stock rooted Midnight rom.
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Then he needs to put down the phone and hit the gym.
Though, on the subject of the ladies, ACS member dreamsforgotten has a great pink theme available...
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Oh come on you can't make him an app or feature that shoots out a cloak making him look like the sexiest guy on earth?
So much for being creative! ;D
I guess the pink would attract.. For the wrong reasons on a males phone though I'd assume..
Anyway to the OP:
I'd suggest just making a ROM based off what YOU want and than sharing it with the community. Its your ROM, make it to your liking and than share it.
1. I am making a rom called paczki rom
2. No ciq
3. Aosp bluetooth stacks (hopefully with help from the cm team)
4. Aosp lockscreen
5. Oc to 1.28ghz (not based on bakedsnackrom, based on twilight (tanimn, do I have permisson?))
6. No omadrm
7. Bonsai fs tweaks (hopefully)
8. Based on syndicate frozen (k0nane, do I have permission?)
9. No twlauncher
10. Nexus s livewallpapers.apk
11. Other possible nexus s files
12. Nexus s fingerprint
13. No sns service (samsung's own sync because they hate google)
14. No swype (flashable zip to add)
15. My modified red acs theme (you can download honeycomb theme if you want. I have a honeycomb device already so I dont need my phone to look like it)
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1. I am making a rom called paczki rom
2. No ciq
3. Aosp bluetooth stacks (hopefully with help from the cm team)
4. Aosp lockscreen
5. Oc to 1.28ghz (not based on bakedsnackrom, based on twilight (tanimn, do I have permisson?))
6. No omadrm
7. Bonsai fs tweaks (hopefully)
8. Based on syndicate frozen (k0nane, do I have permission?)
9. No twlauncher
10. Nexus s livewallpapers.apk
11. Other possible nexus s files
12. Nexus s fingerprint
13. No sns service (samsung's own sync because they hate google)
14. No swype (flashable zip to add)
15. My modified red acs theme (you can download honeycomb theme if you want. I have a honeycomb device already so I dont need my phone to look like it)
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5. Have fun... We're working on 1.3 right now. Twilight Zone is GPL-licensed, you can do what you want with it.
6. Good luck with that, it'll take as much work as CIQ to remove, if you're able to do it at all.
7. These are standard across all EXT4 ROMs including SRF.
8. I'm hesistant because it's enough of a problem ensuring themes and mods stay up to date. It could work.
Dual-boot. And I know it'd be a right squeeze but that's what apps2sd is for.
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Dual-boot. And I know it'd be a right squeeze but that's what apps2sd is for.
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I cant create a dual boot /boot and kernal myself. Not that skilled.
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Then he needs to put down the phone and hit the gym.
Though, on the subject of the ladies, ACS member dreamsforgotten has a great pink theme available...
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I am speechless, with syndicate rom I've already gotten 7 girls to ask me..er..my phone out.
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I want a ROM that looks and feels like AOSP, but has features from other companies as add-ons and such to make the ROM complete. For example, multiple launchers - Sense, Stock, (even TW, possibly. I wouldn't recommend it), multiple keyboards - (Swype, Stock, HTC's, Droid's)
I think you get what I'm saying: Basically a ROM that features a little something from each major developer (if that's even possible), but still have it fast, smooth, ext4, OC @ 1.2 GHz. Basically a ROM that makes you never feel like you're not missing out on anything that your phone didn't come with.
I understand it's an optimistic view and likely impossible to completely fulfill, but that is what I'd like.
Just a minimalist, light-running ROM that runs silky smooth with great battery life. I'm pretty sure that's what a lot of people like actually. lol. Being reliable is also a huge priority for me. As well as simple upgrades to a next version of the rom.
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Just a minimalist, light-running ROM that runs silky smooth with great battery life. I'm pretty sure that's what a lot of people like actually. lol. Being reliable is also a huge priority for me. As well as simple upgrades to a next version of the rom.
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Yes. I may do the bonsai backup/restore method
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pwow I have to post 10 times before i can post in the development section - seams like a waste of time to me but here it goes
wow I have to wait 5 min between posts
this forum sucks!
Oh come on Samsung, its big time we get to taste the Android Gingerbread OS for our Galaxy S Vibrant. I have a Galaxy S I9000 and I got Gingerbread update in the month of Apr-May. But Samsung has not even released Android 2.2.1 for Vibrant. Did they forget this model?
Edit: No doubt I love the amazing Cyanogenmod 7 on my Vibrant but I'd love to see the 2.3 update from Samsung (some TouchWiz love LOL).
basically they abandoned us after froyo lol
Mann get over its not coming if they promise ICS I'm good
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Jasonhunterx said:
Mann get over its not coming if they promise ICS I'm good
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Don't hold your breath on that one. I think the Vibrant is dead, at least in samsung's eyes. There have been multiple leaks for Galaxy S4G, another today for the Epic and i believe the others have also seen leaks, and and still nothing for the Vibrant.
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What really pisses me off, is samsung email is MUCH better than stock.
Email http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5001/5345412768_415ac72a2c_z.jpg
I think they forgot about us, or stopped caring.
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I think they forgot about us, or stopped caring.
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T-Mobile doesn't want to cut into upgrades. Since the Vibrant 4G is out and is the current model, the original Vibrant is deprecated. It is pretty obvious, as no other carrier has been denied a Gingerbread version for the Galaxy S except for T-Mobile.
Although GB would have been nice, I am not missing anything on 2.2.1. What about you guys? Any killer apps or features that makes GB more desirable? Don't tell Crt animation and over scroll glow
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Don't hold your breath on that one. I think the Vibrant is dead, at least in samsung's eyes. There have been multiple leaks for Galaxy S4G, another today for the Epic and i believe the others have also seen leaks, and and still nothing for the Vibrant.
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Ikno but its great how similar our phones are so we should be able to port or help devs make roms 4 uz
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Although GB would have been nice, I am not missing anything on 2.2.1. What about you guys? Any killer apps or features that makes GB more desirable? Don't tell Crt animation and over scroll glow
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Its the little thing like a faster, smother scrolling and improved gps no needs to use lag fix etc that make it worth upgrading. And ofc we all love to upgrade that why we are on XDA .
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T-Mobile doesn't want to cut into upgrades. Since the Vibrant 4G is out and is the current model, the original Vibrant is deprecated. It is pretty obvious, as no other carrier has been denied a Gingerbread version for the Galaxy S except for T-Mobile.
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The 4G isn't much of an upgrade for current Vibrant owners imo. I don't see why we couldn't get the software it's not like it would give us a FFC or 4g(maybe). I guess for those of us smart enough to root and flash that we survive with better roms anyway. We probably should have seen this coming. I mean the only way possible to get froyo was to update via kies which hopefully won't brick your phone.
Flash miui or cm7
probably better than stock gb anyway
Vibrant+MIUI
Why complain about what you dont have when what we do you have available to us great.( no not perfect but still great)
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Flash miui or cm7
probably better than stock gb anyway
Vibrant+MIUI
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Way ahead of you buddy.
The only thing is that the developers need the GB source to make it more stable :/
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The only thing is that the developers need the GB source to make it more stable :/
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right, I dont really use official roms,
but it is still needed for our great dev.
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right, I dont really use official roms,
but it is still needed for our great dev.
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It doesn't matter if you use official roms or not.
without the source, battery is ****.
Conspiracy nut time lol. Maybe it's a way for samsung to keep the devs here from making a perfectly stable rom so we would have to upgrade later . End Conspiracy.
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It doesn't matter if you use official roms or not.
without the source, battery is ****.
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That's what he said...
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i have had so many phones including real gb phones and i always go back to my vibrant. who cares. just rock your vibrant for another 6 months and upgrade to whats new
unless sgs2 drops
http://rootzwiki.com/news/_/article...-jelly-bean-source-is-now-being-released-r955
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/07/09/android-4-1-jelly-bean-released-to-aosp-right-now/
Damn it you beat me to the punch lol
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CM10 soon!!!!!!
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hopefully we get CM9 support first
lets see how fast we see something for s3
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hopefully we get CM9 support first
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Why would they make CM9 for this phone when JB source is released? Lol that makes absolutely no sense.
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Why would they make CM9 for this phone when JB source is released? Lol that makes absolutely no sense.
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I believe it was said that jb code is very similar to ics. Cm9 is very close for us. A stable cm9 to cm10 would probably be faster than cm10 built from scratch. Just a guess though, I'm not a dev.
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I believe it was said that jb code is very similar to ics. Cm9 is very close for us. A stable cm9 to cm10 would probably be faster than cm10 built from scratch. Just a guess though, I'm not a dev.
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Nah I mean working off of CM9 would make sense if they could just merge the changes but I doubt it would officially be released just for them to release CM10 after that.
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hopefully we get CM9 support first
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I really hope we get CM7 before that
/sarcasm
really? why would you want the outdated one?
The CM team is merging the update as we speak. I think we will probably just get CM10 and not CM9 first (could be wrong though)
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We will get CM10 before CM9. All development on CM9 is being ceased after version 1.0.0. Just be patient, the source was uploaded something like 2 or 3 hours ago.
I think we will have something by next week
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I think we will have something by next week
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I think we'll have something by tomorrow morning.. ;-)
Joking aside, this is cool to see.
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I think we'll have something by tomorrow morning.. ;-)
Joking aside, this is cool to see.
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Joke? don't underestimate the developers on THIS phone, of all phones ) I'm gonna definatelly keep an eye on these forums. if nothing else i expect someone starting a WIP thread, an AOSP built rom, most likely not fully functional ofcourse, but compiled enough to boot up, just to give us a taste while development begins in earnest
This is just what was needed to jump-start development for the SIII
I'm curious, with Verizon's S3 flashing abilities currently being limited to roms stripped of kernels, how will this affect a jellybean rom? Is the ics kernel the same as the jb kernel?
Just rambling here, no disrespect intended and none meant at all just want to learn as much as possible....ICS source has been available the whole time, why wouldn't we have seen a CM9 build if it were that simple (as to have source)? Just cause source for 4.1 is out, it is going to make it that much easier to build an AOSP rom now? Again just trying to learn I know people are pretty snappy at questions like these, lol.
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Just rambling here, no disrespect intended and none meant at all just want to learn as much as possible....ICS source has been available the whole time, why wouldn't we have seen a CM9 build if it were that simple (as to have source)? Just cause source for 4.1 is out, it is going to make it that much easier to build an AOSP rom now? Again just trying to learn I know people are pretty snappy at questions like these, lol.
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Reason people are saying that we could see CM10 soon is because the CM team think the code should be able to merge right into what they have with CM9, and not break that many things. With CM7 to CM9, they had to basically do everything from the ground up again because ICS was such a huge update over GB. Now JB isn't that big of an upgrade over ICS, in a way it is, but in a way it isn't. Sorry if that sounds confusing.
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Reason people are saying that we could see CM10 soon is because the CM team think the code should be able to merge right into what they have with CM9, and not break that many things. With CM7 to CM9, they had to basically do everything from the ground up again because ICS was such a huge update over GB. Now JB isn't that big of an upgrade over ICS, in a way it is, but in a way it isn't. Sorry if that sounds confusing.
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That's easy to understand, and not what I'm asking... what you are saying is its easy to incorporate 4.1 to 4.0, just like it was easy to go to 2.2 to 2.3... I'm asking why is everyone so excited to get 4.1 AOSP, when we don't even have 4.0 AOSP?
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mt3g said:
Just rambling here, no disrespect intended and none meant at all just want to learn as much as possible....ICS source has been available the whole time, why wouldn't we have seen a CM9 build if it were that simple (as to have source)? Just cause source for 4.1 is out, it is going to make it that much easier to build an AOSP rom now? Again just trying to learn I know people are pretty snappy at questions like these, lol.
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I am no dev, but heres how i understand it works;
we start with an announcement of an OS, this is done generally at Google I/O or a Nexus Event, in this case was Google I/O.
On the announcement day, devs receive the SDK; Software Development Kit.
This is released to allow the devs to begin making apps that match and run on the new OS. However, aspiring rom devs then begin to build a rom off the released SDK, generally called an sdk port.
These tend to be made simply to give us an idea of how the system would work and function, and generally might boot up and have a couple working things, but major things tend not to function because the SDK is not made for that.
Then comes the Source code, this is the real deal, it is full code of the system, code that can then be compiled to produce a fully working system, or nearly fully working. Only thing that remains missing is proprietary drivers and such, these tend to be the things specific to each phone, files that would make particular chips work, particular functions, the specific phone kernel, etc. but once you have the source code, you're over 80% done as far as having the resources needed to develop a full rom. at this stage, some devs can produce a fully working, stellar rom, but it will take quite a bit more work than devs who choose to wait for the final stage
Then comes the OTA. this is where all the device-specific stuff comes to the devices, and devs have the absolute and complete freedom to produce a fully working, better than stock, experience. This is where roms flood the dev forums.
So as far as not having AOSP yet, and now this is our chance at AOSP? No, thats not why we dont have AOSP. we dont have it cause no one built it yet; the Touchwiz UX is sooo integrated in the system that untangling and taking it all out is a long and drawn out process, and theyd need to deconstruct what we currently have, take out elements of touchwiz until its all clean, all the while making sure it doesnt break anything else.
but getting the jellybean source code propels devs because now this is a new OS, a new AOSP with its own new interesting properties. and because Jelly bean is a small update compared to ICS, now that we have source code, many of the device specific stuff wont be broken by implementing jellybean code into it, therefore building a Jellybean rom is a faster path to AOSP than untangling the current ICS for Galaxy S III
Does that make sense?
mt3g said:
That's easy to understand, and not what I'm asking... what you are saying is its easy to incorporate 4.1 to 4.0, just like it was easy to go to 2.2 to 2.3... I'm asking why is everyone so excited to get 4.1 AOSP, when we don't even have 4.0 AOSP?
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AOSP in this case is talking about the actual Android Open Source Project. so it is a bunch of code. so why are we excited? we've had ICS AOSP code for nearly a year now, what we dont have is AOSP roms. building an ICS AOSP rom is much harder than building a JB Rom, and we currently have icecream sandwich on the SIII even if its touchwized, and undoing touchwiz is quite a bit of work. but Jellybean...Oh Jellybean, now we got the source, we will start getting that baby soon and it'll boost dev on these devices. make sense?
mt3g said:
That's easy to understand, and not what I'm asking... what you are saying is its easy to incorporate 4.1 to 4.0, just like it was easy to go to 2.2 to 2.3... I'm asking why is everyone so excited to get 4.1 AOSP, when we don't even have 4.0 AOSP?
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Not sure if you were trying to come off rude or not, but people are excited because its the newest update, duh. Reason being we don't have 4.0 AOSP is because the phone hasn't been out that long for the US carriers.