Hi, can anyone advise as to why I lose the all sounds on an Orange Branded M3100 phone, other that Microsoft voice command 1.6 no other software has been installed! The details of the ROM are as follows
Operator Version: 14.123.1.614
ROM Version: 1.23.61.4
ROM Date: 07/13/06
Radio Version: 1.06.00.00
Protocol Version: 32.37.7010.01H
Here what happens no sound on the phone, reset the phone sound is now back, after a while, don’t know how long but the sound disappears, you get no ringing sound, menu click sounds nothing, reset the phone again and all is back, so it would suggest that it’s not a hardware failure but a software failure, how can I stop the orange branding installing itself after a cold reset in case something there is causing the problem, has anyone else came across this problem?
This is a brand new phone only received it Friday, does it need to go back?
Kind Regards
Dogo
I've recently noticed on my 8525 too, after a while it seems to just go on silent but the setting isn't changed it still set to on and no sound comes out of the phone no matter what program is used.
Phew, I thought it was just me..
I have noticed it may be something to do with the Bluetooth ear piece, although it always seems to happen when I have left the phone a while. and never when I try to check for the problem
To isolate whether this is hard or software you could try doing a full backup. Do a hard reset and let the device run for as long as it would normally take to show the problem, without any additional software. But do run wifi and power intensive applications to warm up the device - as this can cause internal connector problems.
If the problem is gone, this will tend towards a software problem although not an absolute guarantee. There are some issues that are related to both soft and hardware!! For example the screen fading to white issue can be caused by running (power intense) software that makes the device warm and that in turn causes pressure to be put on the screen.
A final thought, the speaker connection block is next to the stylus tip. There have been cases of the inserting and removing of the stylus causing the connector to become loose. This can cause intermittent sound or no sound at all. The warranty voiding fix is easy. Remove back and check connection is tight. No further dismantling needed. Ensure camera toggle arm is engaged before putting screws back in. (Rear Speaker)
The front speaker can also have issues. has spring contacts that can become slack - poor contact with m/board. There is a thread on checking this.
Mike
No Sound, not a Stylus issue
8525, ms voice dial 1.6,
HTweakC 2.0,
SBP Mobile Shell 1.0.0 build 2632.
ROM 1.34.502.1
radio 1.16.00.00
This has been happening about a week, nothing new installed. On Saturday I missed 12 calls because it was "auto-muted" nothing was on mute, just no ring sounds or anything else. I thought it might be some setting, I suspected that it didn't come back after I had set on vibrate for a meeting, so I went through everything, looks good. had to soft reset for audio to come back. Happened again Yesterday morning after being on charger, had to soft reset, happened again this morning after being on charger, had to soft reset. I'm suspicious of the charge ciruits, the phone was placed on a night-stand and I checked to make sure sound was working AFTER i plugged the charger in (i am an on-call engineer for hospitals) when I got up this AM the first thing I checked was the sound, no sound. Had to do a soft reset and sound is fine.
THIS IS VERY, VERY, VERY troubling.
i cant say that my sound has been "loose"
thefunkygibbon said:
i cant say that my sound has been "loose"
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yep, I agree. My keyboard slider might be loose, but never had problems with the sound.
No sound - possible solutions
I too have had the no sound problem, but I also have a solution (well it seems to work for me and a few other people I know)
I have found that if I have more than about 800 sms messages on the phone (combined count across inbox, sent items, deleted etc...) my phone will decide sometimes to stop making any sounds.
Other symptoms include thew screen not going back to the background when problems are "closed" (well press the X button), sometimes not changing from portrait to landscape.
Hitting the reset key temporarily fixes the problem, but it strike again at any time...
I have seen this on both the official UK orange firmwares
As a side note, more than about 1000 sms messages and 5 unread sms messages and the phone will lock up about 10 seconds after the phone boots up. You have to be quick when the phone boots to go in to the sms inbox and delete 1 message before the phone locks up. This can be a bit tricky but i have done it a few times
from readingmany related threads, it looks like there are several causes for this issue. for me, it was definitely microsoft voice command 1.5 and 1.6. I turned off any notifications from voice command and my problem went away. no calendar voice announcements, no callerid, no bluetooth routing announcements, etc. voice command simply doesn't give up control of the audio sometimes, and it appears to occur most when it wakes up and announces something.
All I use voice command for now is voicedial. try that a while and see if you are fixed.
1.5 was worse, but 1.6 does it too.
good luck!
wes
saga continues
It did it again, twice in one day. Picked up the phone, (it had been resting on the table for several hours). No sound, I tested by placing a call and turning speaker on.. this works! So the speaker (rear) is fine as well as the front (ear).
After I heard the speaker on speaker phone I tried hearing the dial tones or other sounds, none. No incoming ring.
Device and phone volume on FULL
Turn volume off, vibrate, on, off on, and from phone screen turn to vibrate then back to sound
Vibrate still works for inbound calls
Turn voice command off and on
Go to phone (in settings and play the ring I've chosen) and suddenly it’s working again?
I'll try the turning all but phone options in voice command to no-notify. But to tell you straight, this is silly, one more day of this and it's probably (unfortuately) crackberry city for me. I simply can't have a phone that doesn't ring. I guess some ittertation of an O2 would do.. but I'm not too keen on plopping down another 5bills....
any ideas?
labrati said:
It did it again, twice in one day. Picked up the phone, (it had been resting on the table for several hours). No sound, I tested by placing a call and turning speaker on.. this works! So the speaker (rear) is fine as well as the front (ear).
After I heard the speaker on speaker phone I tried hearing the dial tones or other sounds, none. No incoming ring.
Device and phone volume on FULL
Turn volume off, vibrate, on, off on, and from phone screen turn to vibrate then back to sound
Vibrate still works for inbound calls
Turn voice command off and on
Go to phone (in settings and play the ring I've chosen) and suddenly it’s working again?
I'll try the turning all but phone options in voice command to no-notify. But to tell you straight, this is silly, one more day of this and it's probably (unfortuately) crackberry city for me. I simply can't have a phone that doesn't ring. I guess some ittertation of an O2 would do.. but I'm not too keen on plopping down another 5bills....
any ideas?
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I have just read your last two posts. I am wondering whether you are saying you have a sound/ringer problem OR whether you mean the phone sometimes crashes and therefore does not ring (i.e. you then need a soft reset) and sometimes you discover you've missed a call but never heard it ring.
If the above is true then I think you need to look for the solutions for avoiding hangs/freezing. I can guide you to these or a search will show them. It certainly does not appear that you have any physical problem with the speaker/earpieces.
Mike
dogo said:
Phew , I thought it was just me..
I have noticed it may be something to do with the Bluetooth ear piece, although it always seems to happen when I have left the phone a while. and never when I try to check for the problem
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Hi, I never had a sound issue untill I started usin my HT820's, but have noticed a few times lately that my device sounds arent working, (I dont mean always through to the bluetooth headset) and I just power off/on the device, I dont get that many calls, so I havent missed any, and wasnt sure if it was rom or bluetooth related for sure, but I do usually leave my bluetooth on, just not always the headsets, it also doesnt happen a whole lot.
Loose connector
I'm not sure if this will help anyone, but i was losing sound on my 8525. I had dropped my phone twice and the rear speaker connection had gotten loose so i opened it up following the directions at http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=1152710&page=1&pp=15
and now i have sound again.
Continued Issues
Mike, thanks, the issue isn't with the phone locking up at all, it's been very stable, I think I've soft-reset probably 3 times in two months.
The phone literally will stop emitting any sounds. I can still hear if I place a call and if I place that call on speaker phone it's fine. However if you call the phone, try to play an audio file, etc there is no sound that emits from the device.
It did it AGAIN today, I tested, was able to place a call and put it on speaker and called it with my other phone, the pop up screen announcing the inbound call came up and everything else on the phone worked as it should (except no ring). I then went to settings phone and hit ok (top right of screen). BAM.. sound was working on the device again, inbound calls ring, able to play audio etc.
I did note one other possible anomaly, I have my PTT mapped to initiate voice command, when trying to use this I was unable to initiate voice command. After going to phone and pressing OK, voice command started working again. W/O voice command I'm sunk, I have 500+ contacts.
I placed a call to AT&T and I'm back on the "chronic retention" list.. ughhh.. I went through 8 treo's last time. I don't want another basket of refurbs to deal with, I like WM so much better than previous interfaces.. any ideas are very, very, very welcome.
-mike
More information
This morning, the sound was gone again, but I went into settings and started playing to see what else might induce it to work again, I tried voice command again, disabled and re-enabled, that didn't work.
I then went into sounds and that didn't work, went into Today, and Buttons neither of those worked, but when I went into input (didn't do anything, just opened it and closed it) sound started working again.
Hopefully, none of you guys have a newer ROM with the loud startup animation and attempted to turn down that volume via the registry as outlined in the wiki. Unfortunately, doing that also lowers the speaker volume so I just disabled the animation instead. Phone and bluetooth sounds fine but mp3 and everything else were also lowered to a whatever level depending on the startupanimation volume you set.
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It did it to me again yesterday, this time only going to settings phone and pressing OK would make sound come back.
Today, the phone refused to dial or emit any sound. Would not come back after soft reset (would not dial, no sound) had to do a hard-reset (removed battery). After first soft reset a windows came up to advise that mobile voice command couldn't start...
For a darn near $500.00 phone this is pretty sad. Love the phone but gee whiz...
Daily occurance
Well, it does it every single day at least once a day, and I've noticed the phone has slowed a lot, sometimes during SMS or email the cursor goes away or I have to wait 20-30 seconds for words to complete typing after I've finished. I guess I'll get my refurb next week. Perhaps go back to palm.. dunno...
possible fix?
I turned OFF the SMS message sounds and it seems to be working w/o losing sounds again! I'll let it run for a couple of days and see if this is the deal, but I now have no audio announcement for ActiveSync, POP email, SMS, or MMS. I do have audio/vib for missed calls. Anyway, it's been up and running fine all day. Good Grief.
no fix in sight
On hold with ATT right now for another phone. It did it again today at about 10AM. Strange, it may be time sequential, but it didn't do it at all yesterday.. it was great to have the phone ring.
I upgraded my XV6800 to 6.1 using the official upgrade. It's giving me trouble answering calls. When a call comes in I see the notification but when I try to press the Green phone button or the left soft button labeled 'Answer' it doesn't do it! It's like the keys are slow or something. When I use the soft button is DOES flash the soft button label like it recognized the button press. But it does not answer the call! I've had this happen at least a dozen times now so I know it's not just me fumbling with the keys. 9 times of of 10 I can't answer a call!
I've tried hard resetting the device and the symptom persists. I've tried using it without the microSD card loaded. Still the same trouble.
Has anyone else seen this? Or can you recommend a solution?
so your saying it doesn't show "connected"?
I had something similar to what your describing but it would show as "connected" on my phone. I couldn't hear anything when I'd answer. I realized after several attempts it was that the phone was paired to my cars bluetooth... I was trying to dial my phone as I was walking away from my car but I was still within 30 ft of the car... so all speaker and microphone was still being redirected to the cars system. lol. Same can happen with a bluetooth headset where the conversation (speaker/mic) is redirected to the headset that may be in your pocket or on the kitchen counter. But it would at least show as "connected" on the phone.
I feel stupid/foolish for shareing that experience but figured just maybe its what your experiencing.
Thanks,
Ben
*edit: by the way... when I had the 6.1 vzw upgrade I had no problem placeing and receiving calls, with the exception of the "user error" I described above. You could always try rolling back to 6.0 and upgrade again. Did you install any other new software after the upgrade to 6.1?
I have been experiencing something similar. PPC 6800 (not Verizon) with 6.0. When phone is locked and call comes in, can’t answer with the button or with BT. 6800 keeps ringing long after caller goes to voice mail. The only way to escape is soft reset. I’m running the original ROM & Radio that came with the 6800.
ygohome said:
so your saying it doesn't show "connected"?
I had something similar to what your describing but it would show as "connected" on my phone. I couldn't hear anything when I'd answer. I realized after several attempts it was that the phone was paired to my cars bluetooth... I was trying to dial my phone as I was walking away from my car but I was still within 30 ft of the car... so all speaker and microphone was still being redirected to the cars system. lol. Same can happen with a bluetooth headset where the conversation (speaker/mic) is redirected to the headset that may be in your pocket or on the kitchen counter. But it would at least show as "connected" on the phone.
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Nope, never shows connected. It's like the UI has gotten hung somewhere and isn't passing control over to the phone app.
No bluetooth pairings have ever been done to this phone, not before the upgrade and certainly none since. BT isn't even enabled.
Tim may be on to something regarding the lock situation. I've found the lock method a lot less friendly than before 6.1. Can't quite pin it down but it just doesn't seem to unlock properly. Again, it seems to be related to something making the phone 'slow'. On-screen keypresses in the Lock app don't seem to register with the same speed as before 6.1. I can tap a couple of them and not see anything on the screen, then they all run through (showing the screen buttons getting pressed).
My Xv6800 Verizon Does The Same Thing. I Push The Green Hard Button To Answer And It Takes Like 5 Seconds To Answer. It Seems To Happen More When I Have Programs Like Internet Explorer Up, But There Is Still Plenty Of Memory So I Cant See Why It Would Be So Slow. Its Just Frustrating Because Sometimes It Takes So Long The Call Goes To Voicemail And Nobody (fiancee Included) Believes Me! Any Help From Anyone?
fyi... i use an auto close program so when I close an application it really closes. I don't have the slow response or ability to not answer within 5 secs, etc. maybe it is a low memory issue you are experiencing. I don't lock my phone so that may be it too. Sorry I'm not much help here.
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fyi... i use an auto close program so when I close an application it really closes. I don't have the slow response or ability to not answer within 5 secs, etc. maybe it is a low memory issue you are experiencing. I don't lock my phone so that may be it too. Sorry I'm not much help here.
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No, it's definitely not a low memory issue. It's doing this fresh after a reboot having had no other apps even started.
So here's my issue.
During a call if i recieve a SMS/MMS/Email, my earpiece volume drops dramatically and i can use the volume rocker and put it too full and it still doesn't get back to a decent level.
So i was wondering if anyone else has noticed this and is having this small problem, other than that i am completely happy with the phone so far , haven't touched my iPhone since i recieved the Nexus One Jan 7th
P.S. i have SMS Popup app installed and same problem, so i have tried removing the app and still no cure
I haven't tried this on SpeakerPhone or BT Headset
I can 2nd this bug.
Along side, if you were to use any touch tone to send DTMF tones while on the phone (say you're entering your credit card or something), it also goes down real low. This is definitely a bug.
C
ya ....argh!!...hopefully a firmware update fix
I have experienced the bug as well...but what is even more strange is that if I get another text message or email and it causes the phone to vibrate the in-call volume shoots up even louder than it was before. I think it may have something to do with dual microphone and background noise cancellation this phone has.
No problem for me?
Just thought I'd offer some more input, but I don't think my phone is experiencing this problem..? I am currently on the phone with T-Mo, and had to enter numbers via the number pad while in the call, and the volume didn't adjust (neither up or down) at all.
I'm glad I found this thread. I should have read through all of the posts in XDA before starting a brand new thread about this. Sorry guys! I even have this issue listed on google's help forum with some ppl indicating the same. The call volume decrease for me when a call comes in. I have to put the phone on speaker, then take it off speaker in order to get the volume back to where it was. I use to have the volume decrease during an active call when a email or text comes in, but a small work around was to set the ringtone and notifications to silent in settings and in text and emails. Does anyone know if this is a software or hardware issue? or if there will be an OTA update to fix? This phone is amazing otherwise...I know there isn't a TON of ppl reporting this, so I hope google doesnt forget about us. I received a replacement that did the same thing along with new bugs the original didn't have, so I sent it back.
I have it also. Just thought it was me!
@johnboywilson, do you think google will come out with an OTA update for this? This is technically my first android phone, so im not sure how often they come out with updates, or if they get to all the issues no matte how few ppl might be having them. I had WinMo before, and they were pretty good at getting to bugs, sometimes even if just a handful of ppl have them. I had a samsung behold II for 2 weeks. I've only been using android for a little over a month now.
next time this happens will someone try swapping to speaker phone then back to handset and see if it goes back to where it was. I've had a problem a couple times where I couldn't hear the caller, switched to speaker phone, heard them fine, switch back to handset and the volume was back to normal. I honestly dont remember if I had received a notification at the time or not but I'd be curious to know if it is the same thing.
@zjchaser, if you had seen my two previous posts, you would have seen that I use the speaker phone on then off method to correct the volume decreasing when a call, text or email comes in while on a call. This is just a work around and not a fix. I need to know if we will get an OTA update to correct???
@Mrplennium I`m sure they will. if you go onto google support pages you will see what questions people are asking and what faults other people are experiencing.
@zjchaser I have had that problem too. If im on a call and i switch between speaker phone and handset the sound goes off. If i then make a new call the sound is still off and i have to switch between speaker and handset to get it to come back on!
Still love the phone though..
@johnboywilson, I hope you are right. I am one of those ppl that started a thread on the google forum about this issue, and others have been reporting it. I was just fearful that this is one of those issues that's in the minority, so google might skip over it. I hope that's not the case. Other than that, this is by far the BEST phone i've ever owned. I have no other issues with it.
I use the wired headset mostly, but I can confirm this as well. It isn't just another call or SMS for me that causes it...anything that adds a notification (SMS, plugging in to USB, email...anything!). The volume either goes crazy up, or crazy down. It seems to alternate.
It went down the other day after an email during a call, so I had to put the rocker all the way up just so it would sound normal. Shortly thereafter, I got a text and lost my hearing for about 10 mins...the phone can get very loud.
Seriously, this needs to be fixed.
Yup, it happens through the wired headset as well. I think it's def a software issue. Hope you have google people patrolling this site and seeing these issues as well. The first OTA update is coming this week, but for the 3G issue. No one knows what other possible fixes might be included.
Even received a replacement that did the same thing. Not sure why some ppl have working devices, and others have these software glitches. I doubt i'll ever be an early adopter again.
WOW! ok, after 3 preliminary tests, I can conclude that the OTA update has resolved this issue!!!!! YEEPEEE!!!!!!!! Now the phone is PERFECT! I will keep monitoring the situation throughout the day to see if it stays that way, which I can't imagine why it wouldn't!!!THANK YOU GOOGLE!!!!
it didnt fix the problem when i did the update,still have low incall volume
If you have low incall volume - rise it, or flash a kernel with volume boost hack. This bug has been resolved months ago. You're talking about something else.
Okay guys so I have a Moto X and an HTC Stereoclip.
Upon first pairing everything is fine and dandy. Volume levels are as expected. Once I disconnect when I get to the parking lot at work and reconnect when I get inside work the volume is SUUUUUUPER LOW!!! The only way to fix this is to go to my bluetooth settings on my phone and "forget" the HTC Stereoclip. On the initial pairing everything is okay again. There is no way I'm going to keep re-pairing it the long way each time I want to use the stereoclip.
The problem is with the phone though. As I have a Galaxy Note 3 that I use with the stereoclip as well but it has no volume issues pairing and re-pairing.
Do I have a bad unit?
I've noticed on mine, occasionally, the volume will be super low when I get back in my car. As soon as the song changes, or any other notification sound happens, the volume immediately jumps back to where it was (full). I haven't figured out exactly how to reproduce the issue, but since it only happens very rarely, I haven't spent much time on it.
Had the same thing sometimes on my Note 2. I'm guessing it's a bug, but I'm not sure what causes it, nor have I ever been in a position to really troubleshoot it when it happens. By the time I could troubleshoot, I forget about it.