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Where does my storage space go

Hello
I have a question.
I looked at my storage space today (in settings) and it shows as 16gb used and 11gb free. But i dont have apps that large.
So my question is. Is this an error or when its not what uses so much storage space?
I looked trough my apps and none uses enough storage to fill this much space.
What did i overlook?
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Do you have the 32GB or 16GB model? Also, which section are you looking at?
I have the 16 GB model, so my "Internal Storage" section reads 12.51GB total space. The graph breaks it down as 4.55GB of media files and 0.49GB (500MB) for applications, with 7.47GB remaining free space.
Unfortunately, you have not provided near enough information for us to assist effectively. More detail please.

Google map takes 256 mb itself and can grow with cache .
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Its the 32 gb model
The 16 gb used are just applications. 700MB for media and 11 gb free.
So the space adds up correctly to the 32 gb version
But i have only like 35 apps installed. Most of them i have on my phone too
I looked under applications and none of the downloaded apps (even with data and cache) are big enough by themself or summed together to fill 16gb. Did not look trough all app that came preinstalled though.
So i am wondering where the storage space goes.
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Where did all my internal memory go?

I am trying to free up some space on my internal storage. When looking at the memory used out of total available it looks like there is almost 4 gigs unaccounted for. The memory used for Android OS is accounted for already. Not sure if I am missing something simple.
Thanks!

suggestions required on choosing 16gb or 32 gb variant

Dear experts..
please help me in choosing 16gb or 32 gb variant of moto g4 plus.
I liked the specs of moto g4 plus and have been looking to buy it since a very long time. and equally so scared of reading negative reviews.
Iam a very moderate mobile user , my requirements :
1. occassional calling - less than 1 hr on call / day
2.browsing
3.less than 1hr on social media / day
4. occasional usage of camera,music,videos
5. never touch any games apps
Now iam confused between choosing 16gb/2gb vs 32gb/3gb because of 2 reasons
1. there is difference of 3000 INR between these variants in india currently,
2. the negative reviews
- why should i spend 3000 more bucks on a mobile which "MIGHT " creats issues in future ? so i want to go for a lower version of this same mobile for lesser price?
please clarify these doubts :
- for my above mentioned requirements, is 2gb ram really sufficient ?
- iam having Strontium Nitro 32GB 70MB/s UHS-1 Class 10 microsdhc Memory card, i want to use this SD card as permanant internal storage. does it support as internal storage memory ? and is it advisable to do so ? will there be any lags ?
-Of the 16 gb internal memory, i guess only 9 gb is available, If i update g4plus OS to nougat and in future to android O , how much internal space would left to me in 16gb. ? can i compensate this space issue with SD card ?
- apart from Ram and space is there any thing that would bother me among these two variants in future ? ? iam going to use it atleast for 3 years..
Please kindly enlighten me, iam so confused.
Thanks in advance...
stay blessed...
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pinke93 said:
Dear experts..
please help me in choosing 16gb or 32 gb variant of moto g4 plus.
I liked the specs of moto g4 plus and have been looking to buy it since a very long time. and equally so scared of reading negative reviews.
Iam a very moderate mobile user , my requirements :
1. occassional calling - less than 1 hr on call / day
2.browsing
3.less than 1hr on social media / day
4. occasional usage of camera,music,videos
5. never touch any games apps
Now iam confused between choosing 16gb/2gb vs 32gb/3gb because of 2 reasons
1. there is difference of 3000 INR between these variants in india currently,
2. the negative reviews
- why should i spend 3000 more bucks on a mobile which "MIGHT " creats issues in future ? so i want to go for a lower version of this same mobile for lesser price?
please clarify these doubts :
- for my above mentioned requirements, is 2gb ram really sufficient ?
- iam having Strontium Nitro 32GB 70MB/s UHS-1 Class 10 microsdhc Memory card, i want to use this SD card as permanant internal storage. does it support as internal storage memory ? and is it advisable to do so ? will there be any lags ?
-Of the 16 gb internal memory, i guess only 9 gb is available, If i update g4plus OS to nougat and in future to android O , how much internal space would left to me in 16gb. ? can i compensate this space issue with SD card ?
- apart from Ram and space is there any thing that would bother me among these two variants in future ? ? iam going to use it atleast for 3 years..
Please kindly enlighten me, iam so confused.
Thanks in advance...
stay blessed...
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You can go for the 16gb/2gb version

pinke93 said:
Dear experts..
please help me in choosing 16gb or 32 gb variant of moto g4 plus.... Please kindly enlighten me, iam so confused.
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~ "for my above mentioned requirements, is 2gb ram really sufficient ?"
2GB RAM is sufficient ONLY if you'd be carrying out these activities one at a time. Running social media app such as FB for an hour, whilst also browsing and/or listening to music, streaming media, is VERY likely to cause noticeable lag.
~ "Strontium Nitro 32GB 70MB/s UHS-1 Class 10 microsdhc Memory card, i want to use this SD card as permanant internal storage. does it support as internal storage memory ? and is it advisable to do so ? will there be any lags ?"
By permanent internal storage you most likely meant adoptable storage, which IS SUPPORTED by both 16gb and 32gb variants. IME you can never truly replace the efficiency of the inbuilt storage, specially for operations that would require constant yet quick I/O ops. Even while using your ext sdcard as adoptable storage its best practice to prioritize large external app data for the secondary storage - example offline YouTube content or camera RAW files.
Plus, external SD cards are not designed to endure rigorous read write operations and have a much smaller write cycle life. Besides, you may want to keep i mind that ext cards, are more prone to data corruption, and also if the card is ejected /damaged by mistake it'd crash the system given its functioning as internal storage.
As for the lags, not very noticeable in terms of animations, transitions or UI latency, but definitely in app launches, high load operations such as graphic rich games or image editing and saving edited files.
~ "Of the 16 gb internal memory, i guess only 9 gb is available, If i update g4plus OS to nougat and in future to android O , how much internal space would left to me in 16gb. ? can i compensate this space issue with SD card ?"
9 GB initial space in internal memory is rather low by today's standards. Even if you have set ext card as adoptable storage, several apps which have been designed for pre MM APIs vigorously cache data to internal drive by default, and unless you heavily tweak app data storage parameters you are likely to find much of 9gb taken up in no time.
So to specifically answer your question, yes you can compense for the low storage with am ext card but you'd be runnining a fairly tight ship, while also having to constantly keep check on storage performance.
~ " apart from Ram and space is there any thing that would bother me among these two variants in future ? ? iam going to use it atleast for 3 years.."
AFAIK storage & RAM are the only differences between the two variants. You should though do an accurate and detailed comparison on a site such as phonearena to be sure.
Bottomline: if the difference in price isn't unaffordable, you'd have much happier 3 years of use with the 32gb one.
All the best!
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One thing I noted was that you're planning to use a UHS-1 memory card as adoptable storage. If so, I'd suggest upgrading to a UHS-3 memory card if you can (this doesn't just apply to our device, it's more general advice for adoptable storage). It's more expensive, but the write speeds of UHS-3 cards are rated at 30 MB/s minimum, whereas for UHS-1 I recall the minimum write speed is 10 MB/s - 10 MB/s may be too slow for operations (and your device may notify you of that). UHS-3 cards seem to work better for adoptable storage (though as frances91 points out, they will not keep up with the internal flash memory). Look for UHS-3 (or U3) markings, I think they also come with v30 markings - here's an example: https://www.amazon.co.uk/d/Memory-Cards/SanDisk-Extreme-microSDXC-Memory-Adapter/B01HXR51DI
Also, adoptable storage may mean that some apps get installed to your SD card rather than internal storage, which means that certain app functions (e.g. widgets) will not function until you move them to your internal storage. In addition to what frances91 has noted about data corruption (rare, but can happen), your adopted SD card is encrypted by your device, and so may not function if you eject/flash another system on your device until you erase the SD card. You therefore may wish to keep the SD card as portable storage, so apps are defaulting to internal storage for installation, and keeping your music/photos on your SD card. As portable storage, you can then eject the SD card as you wish.
I agree with frances91 though - if you see yourself using the device for 3+ years, I suggest spending the extra money now and buying the 3 GB/32 GB version to future proof yourself. Just ensure, if you see yourself flashing custom ROMs in the future, that the device you buy is not an Amazon Prime Exclusive (I didn't see one on Amazon India, just something to watch for).

Thank you very much @ echo92 , Frances91, killerhEmU .. will surely consider your points and buy it accordingly.. thanks for spending your valuable time to answer .
stay blessed

Micro SD as internal adoptable storage?

I bought a 128 GB Samsung EVO microSDXC Memory Card U3, Grade 3, Class 10, from Amazon and was wondering if it is a good idea to use it as internal adoptable storage. Will it affect performance so bad? I just have one week with my Mi A1 and it is working great, 64 GB is plenty for what I need for now, but I guess it will be great not to worry about data space for apps, movies or photos. So, what do you think?

+1 question

I have the 32gb A1 and use a Samsun 64gb SD as internal storage for a total of 96gb (around 90 usable) and it works a treat. I have around 30gb of apps already so the SD is being used a little and I couldn't tell which apps use it at all. They all feel equally quick.
No issues to report, highly recommend

S10+ 1TB System Memory usage

Hi everyone,
I'm wondering if everyone else has a ton of bloat on system for their 1TB version? My current system memory is at 86.4GB which is quite a lot.
If you do have the 1TB version, how much storage is system memory taking up?

Verizon 1TB, 87.4GB for system

Memory ≠ storage!
I'm seeing similar, ~83GB from fresh reset on unlocked USA version.
As far as memory is concerned it frequently goes over 6GB used. That's a lot however the device does have 12GB and unused memory is wasted memory.

Indeed memory does not equal storage, I'm just a bit surprised that overall storage used by the system is a beefy 80+GB, I'm curious if the other models with different storage configurations have different sizes and what are some under the hood differences due to such.
Edit: Forgot to mention, thanks for replying! I'll try and look into some other models with different storage configs and see what they have.

I don't know how you got that screen but on my 128gb model the system partition (guessing) is around 20-25 GB,. I have 99gb showing as available with very few apps and no data (2 day old phone) so system size must be somewhere in the 20 to 25 range

Swimguy14 said:
I don't know how you got that screen but on my 128gb model the system partition (guessing) is around 20-25 GB,. I have 99gb showing as available with very few apps and no data (2 day old phone) so system size must be somewhere in the 20 to 25 range
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It's in Device Care > Storage > Storage Settings (3 dot menu)
On my old 64GB S8+ the system took up 10GB but is independent from the 64GB free space on it.
Edit: Misquoted, fixed.

Thanks, according to that page, system is 19gigs on my 128model

This is the 512GB model for reference.
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UK Exynos 128
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Listen from 6:00 mins this guy explains why the use is so high out of the box it is normal

gerickjohn said:
Hi everyone,
I'm wondering if everyone else has a ton of bloat on system for their 1TB version? My current system memory is at 86.4GB which is quite a lot.
If you do have the 1TB version, how much storage is system memory taking up?
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The system has to allocate a certain amount of storage aside for switching storage sectors since all memory types have a finite amount of write and erase cycles. The system will take a block of storage that has been written to and erased, and reserve it as unavailable to the user. It will then free up an unused section of storage equal to what it had taken away. The more storage your phone has, the larger the system reserved storage is going to be. It's to prolong the life of the storage module and account for any bad sectors on the storage module.