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Hey guys, need some help. I've searched around and tried to do different things but I'm afraid that I might be stuck (due to my limited knowledge of working with androids).
So I rooted my Fascinate and installed ROM manager and clockwork recovery onto it. Well, after fiddling around with it for a few weeks, I feel like I’ve gotten my self into a position where I’ve lost the way back. So now, I’ve tried unrooting using a couple of methods (update.zip and one click unroot) but it fails every time. This led me to believe that root/super user was not gone from my system (Super User icon/app is still there). This morning, I installed Titanium Back up and it said it couldn’t start because my phone is not rooted. I go into the Super User app and no app has requested it. I’m just kinda lost at this point and want my phone back to the state when I had first purchased it.
Now I know there is the Odin way, however, his post says that his files include superuser and busybox already installed – this I don’t want. I want the unrooted factory Samsung Fascinate state back. I was thinking about using the “factory reset” option in the settings but wanted to get your opinion on this before proceeding (since several posts said to do it where as others said don’t do this way).
Can someone help this clueless android n00b? Please?
If you do a factory reset superuser will still be installed.
When I did Oden restore i think I had to re-root my phone.
You could also root your pone again, then un-root to remove superuser.
Why do you care? My wife and I both have gotten replacements because of hardware defects. Both phones were rooted and they never questioned it either time.
This thread contains ODIN files for a completely stock device:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=782204
No root/bb/su.
NKT said:
This thread contains ODIN files for a completely stock device:
No root/bb/su.
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Actually, the system file in that thread does have SU/Superuser.apk/Busybox, but otherwise it's stock.
atrich0608 said:
You could also root your pone again, then un-root to remove superuser.
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This did the trick!!
I used the the z4root app from appbrain, rooted and unrooted. SU = Gone!! Amazing!
Thank you!!
Hey all-
My Bravo's USB port is borked, won't hold a connection any longer, so I've got an RMA for repair. My understanding is that if the phone is rooted, the warranty is void. So, I'm assuming I have to unroot (used SuperOneClick to root, and will use it to unroot) it before shipping it back to Motorola. My questions are:
Do I need to uninstall any apps I installed while the phone was rooted?
Is there anything else I need to do to the phone before returning it?
Many thanks for any and all advice.
Scrondar said:
Hey all-
My Bravo's USB port is borked, won't hold a connection any longer, so I've got an RMA for repair. My understanding is that if the phone is rooted, the warranty is void. So, I'm assuming I have to unroot (used SuperOneClick to root, and will use it to unroot) it before shipping it back to Motorola. My questions are:
Do I need to uninstall any apps I installed while the phone was rooted?
Is there anything else I need to do to the phone before returning it?
Many thanks for any and all advice.
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Just go into android recovery and wipe data/factory reset.
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Just go into android recovery and wipe data/factory reset.
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Took me a while to find it, but I finally figured out how to get into recovery. Thanks.
FWIW, I did the stock ROM recovery wipe, but superuser was still in my app drawer on reboot, so apparently this doesn't unroot the phone. Sent it out anyway, with a security lock. If they can get past this (and I bet they can, but hopefully won't bother) and decide I've voided the warranty, guess I'll just live with crappy USB port.
Scrondar said:
FWIW, I did the stock ROM recovery wipe, but superuser was still in my app drawer on reboot, so apparently this doesn't unroot the phone. Sent it out anyway, with a security lock. If they can get past this (and I bet they can, but hopefully won't bother) and decide I've voided the warranty, guess I'll just live with crappy USB port.
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You need to flash with RSD Lite!!
You need to flash with RSD Lite!!
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Well, since the USB port was non-functional, flashing with anything was out. I'm hoping they just see the port is useless and send me a new one or refurb. I really like the phone and, if Motorola discovers it's rooted and voids my warranty, I'll have to start over with a new model. Just got off chat with an AT&T sales rep and there was nothing they were willing to do for me, except steer me to a local store.
I was using my wife's Captivate last night. Not bad, but more of a handful than the Bravo.
So, for those of you sitting on the edge of your seats wondering how this warranty return went, I got the phone back the other day, no problemo. Same phone, so somehow the repair wizards were able to put a new USB port in. Groovy.
I am still wondering why, when I did a factory restore, Superuser remained installed. My being able to root the device and use ADB to install .apk packages from the command line is the limit of my knowledge (now using Side Load Wonder Machine instead). My attempts at getting SuperOneCLick to unroot the phone all met with failure, so I sent the phone in with fingers crossed; now I would very much like to use BandroidX's BravoX ROM, but am not sure how to proceed at this point. Any help is much appreciated.
First off... Motorola has released an official app that allows installing of apks from unknown sources so you don't have to use SLWM. The exact name slips my mind, bravo non market enabler maybe? Do a little searching in the market and you'll find it.
As for flashing bandroidx's rom... he has instructions in his release thread. If you need more detailed instructions, post back and i can help you out more.
Remember to be cautious and be prepared to flash the 2.2.1 sbf if something goes wrong.
Ah, yes, thanks. Bravo Sideload Enabler. Who knew? I'll read up on the BravoX ROM again, but that thread does go on.
Hey can somebody upload the apk file of motorola sideloader enabler for bravo?
I cant download it here in my country, I live outside US.
Please!!!
I need the install-recovery.sh file found here on your I337-UCUAMF3. Must have root access.
/system/etc/install-recovery.sh
like an idiot, i didnt make a backup of that file, and I deleted it not realizing that there is no recovery for UCUAMF3 and tried to install a custom recovery.
Now I cant get into the normal recovery mode and gets stuck in odin mode, in order to boot up i have to do the restart option when i do a physical button boot into odin. its annoying and i want to go back to stock and wait until there is a bootloader unlock and recovery for UCUAMF3.
unfortunately I cant do a factory reset because during the reset process it boots back into odin mode, and recovery doesnt work.
my thinking is if i can get back this install-recovery.sh it will be able to do a factory reset? Also do I need to unroot to go back to factory settings? Any thoughts? Thanks again for any help, and yes ive learned my lesson, spend at least 20 minutes searching the EXACT model/baseband and make sure the guide is for your device..
You can't return to stock, there is no odin flashable firmware. Don't do anymore messing with your phone. You'll just make it worse. Your going to have to live with it the way it is until there is firmware available. As an alternative, best buy can flash it back to stock.
Edit, see this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=45359306
i cant just do a factory reset in settings? im pretty sure the problem is that it cant boot into the stock recovery because of the deletion of 'install-recovery.sh'
my phone once, already had the odin bootloop thing, then i fixed it so it could boot up normally, but thats because i still had the 'install-recovery.sh' on there...any chance you send that file my way? once i have that im pretty sure ill be able to do a factory reset and remove root.
jd1639 said:
Edit, see this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=45359306
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read that, but their problem seems like their devices wont boot at all. mines does boot, and did normally when i had 'install-recovery.sh'
im pretty sure that file is device specific and varies from device, ive found the file but not one that was from an ATT S4 running UCUAMF3, there is already root access for UCUAMF3 so it someone should be able to copy that file since i was able to delete it?
I don't have mf3. What the f are you messing with stuff like that for when you're on mf3. You need to do some more research on the limitations of returning your device to stock if you mess something up. You're going to end up with an expensive brick.
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You can't return to stock, there is no odin flashable firmware. Don't do anymore messing with your phone. You'll just make it worse. Your going to have to live with it the way it is until there is firmware available. As an alternative, best buy can flash it back to stock.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=45359306
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jd1639 said:
I don't have mf3. What the f are you messing with stuff like that for when you're on mf3. You need to do some more research on the limitations of returning your device to stock if you mess something up. You're going to end up with an expensive brick.
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yeah it was an accident on my part....do you have i337? is there a difference at all between the 'install-recovery.sh' on i337 and i337 with mf3?
UPDATE: just did a power off and a reboot, phone booted fine into android, none of the odin-mode stuff..
also go here, it could help...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2413746
I've rooted with King Root. Since I have got troubles with GPS and need to send phone for repair, I need to completely unroot with no trace that phone was rooted. Do you know hot to do it...? I've found that after unroot via King root RW is still mentioned while booting, so it's not clean unroot... Please explain if you can step by step.
Thank you very much.
Martin
Can you just do a factory reset from the recovery menu? Before I bought mine on Ebay I asked the seller about rooting and what if it bricks, he just said I can send it back within a month with no questions asked more or less.
Droid_Nut said:
Can you just do a factory reset from the recovery menu? Before I bought mine on Ebay I asked the seller about rooting and what if it bricks, he just said I can send it back within a month with no questions asked more or less.
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Didn't try yet, in the meantime rather asking. Now did Nandroid backup and trying to find out if I can flash it without root in COS recovery or need to root again, install Nadroid backup and restore vie this app.
Also in Nandroid backup is missing script for Lenovo ZUk Z1 and no chance to find it, so I will cross fingers that it will not cause additional problem during recovering from backup...
Droid_Nut said:
Can you just do a factory reset from the recovery menu? Before I bought mine on Ebay I asked the seller about rooting and what if it bricks, he just said I can send it back within a month with no questions asked more or less.
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Tried factory reset and full wipe and still not updatable, OTA update ends with same log "system was RW mounted" so it seems it's irreversible if you root. Very bad news, so you can't then apply warranty.
Do you have anybody advice how to reset into facotry default without any trace device was rooted..?????
You could try this toolkit, but you will need stock rom. http://forum.xda-developers.com/zuk-z1/development/win-zuk-z1-toolkit-0-1-alpha-t3235964
So it seems, it's not possible to make safe root and unroot on ZUk Z1 device as far as I know. Maybe somehow very difficult. That's not great news indeed. It's my first phone ever not possible root / unroot safely. And it's giving me feeling that Z1 despite it's great device in terms of hardware is not good choice. Also quite surprised how far away from well tuned OS is current release. I can't understand, why just CM didn't develop OS with possible root right or didn't incorporate full device backup. Honestly I don't care so much and probably neither other users about root, if natively in OS is complete backup / recovery. And... If I can do root without possibility go back (reclaiming warranty or not functional OTA update), then it makes me think, if really Z1 via CM is good choice or not. Despite really nice HW and materials... Pitty
martin_cz said:
I've rooted with King Root. Since I have got troubles with GPS and need to send phone for repair, I need to completely unroot with no trace that phone was rooted. Do you know hot to do it...? I've found that after unroot via King root RW is still mentioned while booting, so it's not clean unroot... Please explain if you can step by step.
Thank you very much.
Martin
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No you should have read how to do it before you touched the phone. XDA is not a spoon feeding centre. It's for people who want to help themselves. If you had done the reading and had an issue with getting a part of the process to work, yes, but to blindly rush in and want it sorted out because of your own +++++ I must sound like a #### but you learn then act. Everyone has 4 posts and a screwed up phone wanting help. Errr there is a link between the two.
1.Flash a clean COS image via Twrp
2.Flash a clean COS recovery via twrp or adb sideload
3.Lock the bootloader
This morning my phone notified me that there was an update available. I ran the update, and now my phone is pretty much completely unusable. If I try to make a call the phone app closes. If I try to text the messaging app closes. The phone also reboots every few minutes on its own.
I did the samsung support chat, they had me put the phone in safemode which didn't help at all. They suggested I do a factory reset, but I haven't been able to backup my phone without it restarting.
I'm skeptical the factory reset would help, anyway.
I'm thinking about just taking it into the verizon store and having them replace it (it's still under warranty), but I'm wondering if I could get an upgrade for the inconvenience.
Any ideas? Thoughts?
Thanks!
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This morning my phone notified me that there was an update available. I ran the update, and now my phone is pretty much completely unusable. If I try to make a call the phone app closes. If I try to text the messaging app closes. The phone also reboots every few minutes on its own.
I did the samsung support chat, they had me put the phone in safemode which didn't help at all. They suggested I do a factory reset, but I haven't been able to backup my phone without it restarting.
I'm skeptical the factory reset would help, anyway.
I'm thinking about just taking it into the verizon store and having them replace it (it's still under warranty), but I'm wondering if I could get an upgrade for the inconvenience.
Any ideas? Thoughts?
Thanks!
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I would Odin using home_csc to avoid wiping all data and either use qc5 or qa4 depending on which is available. Doubtful they'd offer an upgrade over a replacement
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I would Odin using home_csc to avoid wiping all data and either use qc5 or qa4 depending on which is available. Doubtful they'd offer an upgrade over a replacement
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Okay, thanks. I did some rooting and ROMing back when I had a rezound, but haven't done anything of the sort on my S7. This method won't void my warranty, will it?
I know it's probably wishful thinking for the upgrade, but dang. Having to go a day without a phone and then through the trouble of replacing it seems like it should be worth something!
JMBush1007 said:
Okay, thanks. I did some rooting and ROMing back when I had a rezound, but haven't done anything of the sort on my S7. This method won't void my warranty, will it?
I know it's probably wishful thinking for the upgrade, but dang. Having to go a day without a phone and then through the trouble of replacing it seems like it should be worth something!
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The rezound was a beast for this process. Like Simon says to get soff. But, know won't trip with Odin at all if you are using.stock fw
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The rezound was a beast for this process. Like Simon says to get soff. But, know won't trip with Odin at all if you are using.stock fw
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I would think having s-off or root would be grounds for not covering on warranty, no? Or you're just saying that it's easy to get off on this device, not that I should?
I just got back from the Verizon store and the guy helping me saw the SuperSU app, which was there simply from being transferred over from google automatically from my last phone, and warned me that I may have tripped Knox and may not be covered by warranty if I had. He tried to look on the phone to see if it had, and he thought it was but said he wasn't sure because he hadn't done it in a while.
Like I said, I haven't done any thing like that, except today I did press pwr dwn + pwr + home, then I hit continue, so maybe that did it?
Anyway, if I can fix this myself I would like to just for times sake. However, since (presumably) it's under warranty still I don't want to do anything to it that will void that.
We got it to do a factory reset with much effort, finally having to copy paste my pin after typing it into the calculator and pasting it in the pin screen for the reset. Now it is stuck in the initialization mode, of the reset process and rebooting.
So, sorry to press further, but if you're sure this will not void my warranty, I will try the odin tool. I'm getting conflicting information on the interwebs about this. I want to make sure I get the right files and do it right, so do you mind linking? I've seen some stock flashes say they void the warranty. Although maybe I have already anyway?
Thanks again.
JMBush1007 said:
I would think having s-off or root would be grounds for not covering on warranty, no? Or you're just saying that it's easy to get off on this device, not that I should?
I just got back from the Verizon store and the guy helping me saw the SuperSU app, which was there simply from being transferred over from google automatically from my last phone, and warned me that I may have tripped Knox and may not be covered by warranty if I had. He tried to look on the phone to see if it had, and he thought it was but said he wasn't sure because he hadn't done it in a while.
Like I said, I haven't done any thing like that, except today I did press pwr dwn + pwr + home, then I hit continue, so maybe that did it?
Anyway, if I can fix this myself I would like to just for times sake. However, since (presumably) it's under warranty still I don't want to do anything to it that will void that.
We got it to do a factory reset with much effort, finally having to copy paste my pin after typing it into the calculator and pasting it in the pin screen for the reset. Now it is stuck in the initialization mode, of the reset process and rebooting.
So, sorry to press further, but if you're sure this will not void my warranty, I will try the odin tool. I'm getting conflicting information on the interwebs about this. I want to make sure I get the right files and do it right, so do you mind linking? I've seen some stock flashes say they void the warranty. Although maybe I have already anyway?
Thanks again.
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It will not trip knox. So far the only thing that would trip knox is flashing a custom recovery, which we can't do. I have used the eng boot kernel a few times and still haven't tripped knox. What you're doing is flashing stock firmware back to the device in the same manner that they would at any phone shop to repair it.
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It will not trip knox. So far the only thing that would trip knox is flashing a custom recovery, which we can't do. I have used the eng boot kernel a few times and still haven't tripped knox. What you're doing is flashing stock firmware back to the device in the same manner that they would at any phone shop to repair it.
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Alright, thanks for the reassurance.
Unfortunately, after apparent successful attempts using odin, the phone is still exhibiting the same behavior with closed app notifications, not showing the keyboard at times, and restarting. Guess I will be make a service request tomorrow, unless you have any other ideas?
Odin is a factory Samsung tool and will not flash anything to your phone that isn't allowed, due to the locked bootloader. What is your full build number? I can walk you through the steps of reflashing with Odin.
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Odin is a factory Samsung tool and will not flash anything to your phone that isn't allowed, due to the locked bootloader. What is your full build number? I can walk you through the steps of reflashing with Odin.
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I tried flashing QC5 a few different times, and also QA4 after that, and it just kept rebooting after the initialization screen. I loaded all 4 files, and got (1 succeeded / 0 failed) message from odin each time.
However, just now I went on Verizon's support chat to get a warranty replacement issued. I entertained Jennifer, the tier two from the windy city, and booted up in safemode. Everything seems to be working fine now! Although I did get a few close app notifications after changing from high performance mode to optimized.. but the phone is still up and running fine since then. I've been able to text and make calls for the first time since running the update yesterday morning. I'm hoping everything stays stable.
Also, I'm wondering whether it makes sense to try running the update again through the phones system update mechanism.
Thanks for the help!
The only option now is to force factory reset and clean out everything after flashing
From what I gather, you have already done a factory reset, haven't you? When you flashed with Odin, did you use HOME_CSC or CSC_VZW?
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From what I gather, you have already done a factory reset, haven't you? When you flashed with Odin, did you use HOME_CSC or CSC_VZW?
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Yes, yes, and yes. I did a factory reset and everything has been erased. I tried using both at different times. My last one was with QA4, and I used CSC_VZW iirc.
My phone is still going strong with no reboots since I started it up this morning!
Welp, things still seem to be running smoothly.
I do keep getting update notifications though. I'm tempted to press my luck and install the update.
Opinions? I'd be a lot more confident had it started working immediately after I flashed with Odin. The fact that I finally turned it off for the night after it cycled through several boot loops with different installs makes me wonder what the problem/solution actually was.
I guess I'll try it. It is still under warranty, and would probably be best to find out if there's an issue with it now rather than later.
I have the latest update and never exhibited the issues you have. Since you've done the factory reset, it probably wouldn't hurt to do the update. I have a feeling it should be good now. If not, then you know the update is bad. Only way to know is to try. Hoefully, it should work for you. It's been excellent for myself and many others.
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I have the latest update and never exhibited the issues you have. Since you've done the factory reset, it probably wouldn't hurt to do the update. I have a feeling it should be good now. If not, then you know the update is bad. Only way to know is to try. Hoefully, it should work for you. It's been excellent for myself and many others.
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Yup, ran the update and everything is good!
Thanks for all the help, everyone.