Hi, I'm a little confused and will try to explain.
Today I went to my provider shop and added a 2 month trial for surfing on the 3g (or edge, or whatever is available).
Now I see that sometimes "E" or "G" on the display and two arrows.
Then they dissapear and a little time later it's there again.
On the manual I see that it means downloading and uploading, but my browser is not active and I didn't make connection myself.
What I see is that since I added the trial, the "MMS and data" is checkmarked.
When I unmark it, the "E" or "G" network is no longer showing.
Now finally my question: am I (when it is marked) connected to the network, or only when I start the browser?
Or is one or more apps running in the background retrieving/sending data and so consuming my up or download?
Hope someone can explain a little.
Regards,
Francis.
Btw: I searched on the forum but couldn't find some explanation
as long as you see E (EDGE) or G (GPRS) you ARE connected on the network, but not necessarily are you downloading or uploading data. when the up and down arrows light up, data is being transferred to and from the phone. even if the browser is closed, data transfer can still occur since Android uses the internet to download information for e-mails, updates, and other info. you need to uncheck MMS & data if you want to completely turn off your data connection.
Ok, thanks, well explained.
It was what I was thinking. I will keep it off until I want to connect.
Guess the download limit would be reached without knowing and is also battery consuming.
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I am using GPRS/ EDGE. Sometimes when I have NOT used any Internet program, the G or E icon become a pure square G or E only without the 2 arrows. Does it mean it has DISCONNTED the GPRS/EDGE? Now if I launch IE and click a URL, the E/G icon will flashing with a moving 2 arrows and eventually after 1 or 2 seconds, become a "square E/G icon with fixed 2 arrows".
I am wondering, shouldn't the GPRS/EDGE be ALWAYS connected, such that the "G/E icon with fixed 2 arrows" should always appear? What setting I should change in order to make my Xda neo perform that way?
Hi isomania!
1) The icons are interpreted as follows:
Solid G/E - GRPS / EDGE network present, but not connected.
Small G/E with moving arrows - connecting to network.
Small G/E with solid arrows - connected.
2) There is no point to keep GPRS\EDGE connected when no programs are using it, since that would only shorten battery life. If I am not mistaken the timeout on the connection cannot be changed from the device side. I know push mail function sends some data (I think 400 bytes every 120 sec) to keep the connection alive, but it kills the battery and racks up the phone bill (unless you have unlimited data).
Thanks for your explanation. But for me, "connecting GPRS/EDGE" is STILL costing some time (may be 1 to 2 seconds). so i am wondering if I can keep GPRS/EDGE connected all the time I want, so that whenever I want to check POP3 email / go to any website, then I don't need to wait the 1 to 2 seconds connection time. Now THAT'S would be my definition of "always on"
One or two seconds to establish a connection? How will you ever manage having to wait that long? :roll:
isomaniac said:
Thanks for your explanation. But for me, "connecting GPRS/EDGE" is STILL costing some time (may be 1 to 2 seconds). so i am wondering if I can keep GPRS/EDGE connected all the time I want, so that whenever I want to check POP3 email / go to any website, then I don't need to wait the 1 to 2 seconds connection time. Now THAT'S would be my definition of "always on"
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Check the various tweaks n tips floating about, there's always a couple that will force gprs to remain on at all times. The downside isn't battery life, it barely affects that or push mail wouldn't exist. It's that eventually you will lose the signal, the connection will die and you won't notice the difference until you try to use it. Then you have to either toggle flight mode or reset the phone...after you figure out what happened. If you're constantly having to connect to gprs, you may be better served by looking for a disconnect timeout. With that, it'll get the occasional chance to reset the connection, making sure it's active. I have no idea what they are offhand and don't use them but I've come across them in the past so try a search and check the wiki.
The downside isn't battery life, it barely affects that or push mail wouldn't exist.
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Sorry, but I have to disagree.
Maybe if you manage to somehow keep the connection without transmitting anything (not sure this is possible) the battery drain will be minimal.
I am using push mail on my Jamin for only 3 days and the difference in battery drain is very noticeable. In fact even with no mail (I don't sync the rest) to transfer the battery life is cut almost in half.
I read an article where the same is reported for the universal.
i have a question about this related topic, i'm a noob, just got my mda on wed and i called them and added the data plan to my existing line, the guy said it would take about 72 hours for the browser to be surfing the web normally, well today is sunday and i still can't surf, my G icon on top is with arrows moving, and it shows i'm connected to EDGE but my browser only says Locating and never loads anything, please help?
Hi werkmeister47!
Arrows moving means GPRS is trying to connect, but not actually connected.
There are two possibilities:
1) The provider hasn't connected you yet (72 hours??? When I bought a SIM from Orange I was surfing in 5 minutes)
2) Your connection settings are incorrect. You have to contact technical support for exact settings for your network.
Good luck.
Has anyone else had the problem that you go online and surf the web then maybe a couple of hours later you launch Opera again to go online and it just hangs (the data connection not opera)?
The only way to make it connect is to turn off the data connection then it will log back on...
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Has anyone else had the problem that you go online and surf the web then maybe a couple of hours later you launch Opera again to go online and it just hangs (the data connection not opera)?
The only way to make it connect is to turn off the data connection then it will log back on...
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yeh iv been getting that problem for sometime now, its frustrating, sometimes i even have to soft reset to get the data connection working. It shows that the data connection is fine and everything seems connected, but then when you try and update weather or browse the web (anything that uses data) you end up getting an error,
its very similar to the problem you get on your home broadband, your router shows its connected and your dsl and everything is active yet you get a white page on your browser and then you have to reset your router, very very frustrating, so i understand your problem exactly.
I'm wondering if this is anything to do with changing cells on your network?
When you travel to a different cell location although the network says you are still connected (and you can still send/receive calls) the data network has actually dropped and needs refreshing?
I suppose what we are after is a program that can refresh the data network every few mins - don't know if this is possible though?
Here in Germany o2 has a problem with the Qualcomm Chipset. I also have hanging connections. A workaround is to disable HSDPA. Maybe you have the same problem?
same problem here (also o2 Germany)
the 3G icon is there and the bubble says there is a connection for x minutes but opera or google maps mobile report a missing connection after a short time of usage. i have to kill the connection manually and after the connection is reestablished it works again for few minutes...... this is so frustrating...
GPRS
Same problem in Czech republic with O2 provider.
At this moment I found as a fastest way to switch off and on the radio.
I'm using most of the time GPRS connection and this problem is about two times per day so reconnection every day two times is really annoying.
Hopefully somebody will find solution soon...
My problem is slightly different. Sometimes (after using Opera or not) I try to refresh weather and it says "refreshing" but the data connection won't connect (it shows antenna, no arrows with H or 3G). I must then soft reset the PDA to make it work. Any solutions or similar experiences?
Blackstone data connection problems
I have been getting the same problem for sometime now, it is very frustrating, I always have to soft reset to get the data connection working. It shows that the data connection is fine and everything seems connected, but then when you try and update weather or browse the web (anything that uses data) you end up getting an error.
I try to refresh weather and it says "refreshing" but the data connection won't connect (it shows antenna, no arrows with H or 3G). I must then soft reset the PDA to make it work.
I am also wondering if this problem is limited to Blackstone (HTC Touch HD) or extends to HD2 also?
I have noticed that no one ahs posted any solution.
Comeon senior guys PLEASE help us out here.
Many thanks in advance.
Kam2kam, question, What rom are you using, and are you using activesync? If so, have you downloaded any email attachments? I was having the same problem where a couple of times a day I would have to soft reset. The connection would look fine, but if you tried to update anything or browse the net you were met with an error. It was frustrating. I finally narrowed the issue down to activesync and the new manila documents tab. My theory was that when I downloaded an attachment to view in the documents tab activesync would continue to sync the attachment each time it polled for new mail. Since activesync is often slow to sync attachments, my connection to the VPN would timeout before it could finish syncing causing the dreaded "waiting for network". My thought was my VPN connection would freeze thereby preventing my carrier internet from being able to connect; since, at least for me, you cannot have two different data session running simultaneously, i.e. VPN connection and the carrier's connection. The only cure was to soft reset. Ultimately what I did was hunt down any and all email attachments that I had dowloaded, and deleted them all. Since then my data connection went from freezing up twice a day to zero times a day and it's now been over two weeks.
You may not have the same set up as I do, but perhaps there may be something similar going on.
I hope that helps a bit.
Hi everyone...
I have an odd problem with my ToucH HD data connection. Usually it happens by the end of the day.
When I arrive home, I disconnect HDSPA/3G and connect Wifi because my data plan comprises only 100Mb per month.
At the end of the night I disconnect Wifi and connect hSDPA/3G again, but the connection goes crazy.
Usually the weather widget still works (at first), but no other app that needs web connection. No Opera, no MSN, no mail... everything with connection error. Then even the weather widget too...
In the commManager the DataConnection is active and when i click on the H on top of the screen i can see that HSDPA is connected and there is a time counter... counting. I've even tried the "Connection wizard" (i suppose it's its name, since my TouchHD is in portuguese), then a soft-reset, but nothing. Is stays the same apparently connected, but no application being able to connect the internet. Just as if some communication layer that serves the applications had been disconnected from the HSDPA network.
The only way I have to "solve" this problem is by doing a restore of an image i created while the HSDPA connection was working. But I suppose having to do this at least once a day does not seem to be a good remedy, at least in my humble opinion.
Do you have any suggestions? I'm running the latest HTC official ROM for Europe, release Apri 7th.
Thank you in advance.
MD
Hello,
I just bought a Leo. My provider is Vodafone IT.
From the very first moment, while WiFi is present in my house, the phone tried to connect to Internet via UMTS. It does so often when Wifi is temporarily unavailable.
After my old Glofiish M800, one year ago, made me spend 3€ for two consecutive connections for the duration of a half second each (1.50€ on connection then) I requested Vodafone to completely disable Internet access for my SIM card. All I did then was to connect the PDA to USB cable and SPB Weather immediately tried to update weather without even waiting for Net via ActiveSync to become available in a few seconds.
With Leo, I also deleted all network access points from configuration, set all profiles to Office Network and unchecked (my ROM is Italian) "This connection has Internet access" "Questa connessione dispone di accesso a Internet".
What occurs now is that often, but really OFTEN, even during the night, especially when I'm on the road and I'm not interested in Facebook, YouTube or weather, the phone turns on and two popup appear:
One as a notification "Called: " (before deleting AP "Called: web.omnitel.it" "Chiamata effettuata: web.omnitel.it"). The other as error message about problems with GPRS.
I also have to pay great attention to the second popup. Once, but fortunately not today, it went over the lock screen and I was unable to unlock it as the slider was below the popup. I was also unable to close the popup as the screen was locked so I had to soft-reset.
I only installed TomTom and Core Player for now.
I DON'T WANT TO PAY VODAFONE LOTS OF MONEY FOR UMTS ACCESS WITHOUT MY CONSENT, NOR SIGN UP FOR FLAT PLANS AS I HAVE WIRELESS ACCESS IN EVERY PLACE I USUALLY GO!!!
Can somebody help me tell Leo to NEVER TRY to use UMTS? I had to agree with Vodafone that I would have been unable to even send MMSs and perform videocalls until I restore UMTS, but I can't spend this huge money for the sake of weather and for greedy (it's the right word) software that just want to connect to the Internet whenever THEY want (ie. Windows Vista/7 does Windows Update only when Internet is detected, it never tries to connect until you do manually).
Thank you. Please anser me ASAP. If I don't find a solution, I will return the PDA to the seller (it's a great PDA, I wouldn't like to)
settings menu all settings connections connections advanced tab select networks change the top drop down to "my work network"
hope it helps!
Hi, I followed what you suggested and, in order to test faster, I tried to manually update weather from HTC Sense.
First of all, even if I uncheck the Internet access checbox from Office Network ("My work network" you mentioned), I always see it comes back again. I found that "ISP settings" only shows two tabs, and no Internet/proxy checkbox, so I also tested selecting this connection.
I also entered "*" as list of intranet addresses.
Every time I try to update weather, for all of these tests, I see the 3G arrows on top of notification bar flashing for a couple of seconds and the same exact alerts
Does your phone always connect to 3G?
[EDIT] I also tested http://www.htc.com/au/faqs.aspx?p_id=297&cat=264&id=118112, no result. But actually the help page says it clearly: it's normal that the phone will notice errors.
Is there any registry tweak or what?
Hello,
To solve your problem, go to the redfrogfish website, google to find the link. Download and install the Data Controller cab.This enables you to turn on/off the data connection function of the HD2
(I wanted to give you the link, but I am a new user and not allowed to do so)
Good Luck
djechelon said:
Hi, I followed what you suggested and, in order to test faster, I tried to manually update weather from HTC Sense.
First of all, even if I uncheck the Internet access checbox from Office Network ("My work network" you mentioned), I always see it comes back again. I found that "ISP settings" only shows two tabs, and no Internet/proxy checkbox, so I also tested selecting this connection.
I also entered "*" as list of intranet addresses.
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I think you are going further into the settings than i need to.
settings - menu - all settings - connections - connections - switch to advanced tab - click 'select networks'
See my image 1 - setting the top dropdown to 'my work network' (or 'the internet', it gets called slightly diff thing depending on your setup, ,)) means it will look for whatever active connection is available and use that.
I also have a commmanager that has seperate on/off toggles for 3g and data.(see pic 2) So, if i turn off data connection, but leave 3g on, even though i have 3g (well, H) showing available on the top bar, if i go to update the weather it comes up with 'connection error'. If i start opera, it fails, etc etc.
Back into comm manager., turn back on the data toggle, everything works again.
If i turn off 3g, and leave data off, I get the same results.
paulmor said:
Hello,
To solve your problem, go to the redfrogfish website, google to find the link. Download and install the Data Controller cab.This enables you to turn on/off the data connection function of the HD2
(I wanted to give you the link, but I am a new user and not allowed to do so)
Good Luck
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Thank you!
It did solve my problem
Here is the link you couldn't post, as it can be useful to the community:
http://redfrogfish.com/data-controller/
Thanks for the link, had a same problem which is solved now running this program.
hey do you all know top right normally show 3g right? But when it shows a big "E" or big "G", what's the Meaning of that??
I have tried to disable data connection for auto connect, so sometimes i see this 2 big letters appear. Can anyone explain to me pls?
Is it still connected? Really thanks for your advise.
it is still connected however it is on a 2g (slower) connection
oh man.... last month it cost me a bomb with auto internet connection! Then i install BSB Tweaks to disable it. If as you said, "E" or "G" is still connected, do you have any idea how to manually turn off the auto connect function?
Please kindly advise. Appreciate your time...
G is afaik for GSM..the standard connection, but the slowest.
E is for EDGE...its a faster gsm afaik.
3G stands for UMTS and
H is for HSDPA...the fastest available speed for the HD2.
use google or wikipedia for further information.
DN41
edit: its only connected, when the little letter is over the little signal strength.
if there's only the big letter, your phone isnt running a data connection.
whizzkid_cool said:
oh man.... last month it cost me a bomb with auto internet connection! Then i install BSB Tweaks to disable it. If as you said, "E" or "G" is still connected, do you have any idea how to manually turn off the auto connect function?
Please kindly advise. Appreciate your time...
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Do a search on here for 'nodata'. It totally stopped Internet connection for me, except when I wanted it.
or go to settings/connections/connections "programs automatically connects with"...set "firma", because that means w-lan (sorry, thats german ) and not your internet, i.e. "E-Plus Internet"
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DN41 said:
G is afaik for GSM..the standard connection, but the slowest.
E is for EDGE...its a faster gsm afaik.
3G stands for UMTS and
H is for HSDPA...the fastest available speed for the HD2.
use google or wikipedia for further information.
DN41
edit: its only connected, when the little letter is over the little signal strength.
if there's only the big letter, your phone isnt running a data connection.
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Are you saying that if there is only the big letter, even the data connection is up, but i wont get to pay any internet charges since there is nothing to connect?
If use nodata.cab, does it mean i also cannot connect to WIFI? or just cut off the data connection only?
I think this problems is frustrating all the HTC HD2 newbies out there~~
whizzkid_cool said:
Are you saying that if there is only the big letter, even the data connection is up, but i wont get to pay any internet charges since there is nothing to connect?
If use nodata.cab, does it mean i also cannot connect to WIFI? or just cut off the data connection only?
I think this problems is frustrating all the HTC HD2 newbies out there~~
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Nodata only effects telephone data connections, it does not effect WiFi, Bluetooth or GPS.
If you see JUST the big letter G, 3G, E or H then it means that service is available but not being used. If you see the big letter AND the same letter, only smaller, in the telephone signal strength icon, then you are connected to your telephone operator's data and you will be charged (unless you have a data plan).
Just for clarity, G is for GPRS (The slowest data), not GSM
Most data plans bill you by ammount of data transferred, not time connected, so just being connected isn't in itself gonna cost you. There are plans that bill by the minute, but not many.
Also, as fred said above, in your bar along teh top there are two icons, a large one to the left, which shows G E H, whatever, this one is only showing you what connection is on offer from your network, not what you are connected to. To the right of that is your signal icon, and that too shows G E H etc. It is the one on the right that shows how you are actualy connected.
you want an explanation of all the top-bar connection related icons? see my reply in this thread (its the first post after the OP):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=679280
hopefully you'll have no further doubts after reading that.
thank you all for explaining for me! You guys are great! I truly appreciate your helps with the precious answer.
But after i disabled the data connection, weather cant be updated anymore. How can i update it using wifi? ?