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Anyone notice the compass as well as other sensors respond SUPER SLOW. Fire up skymaps and find mars. Go on ill wait... Broken GPS is getting all the talk.
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There's an app called "Android Sensor Data" that can calibrate the accelerometer, but you have to run it at every boot. It doesn't fix the compass, which I expect us just broken.
The future looks so... Vibrant
Yup, it was one of the first things I noticed about the phone. The compas is definitely either broken or just not very good.
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Its not only sky maps but also layer as well, once you stop moving the phone it takes a good 10 to 15 secs to position itself, very laggy, just patiently waiting for the fix now -_-"
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one would think with Samsung preinstalling Layar on the phone the compass would work without a hitch... im hoping its a software issue not updating as frequent.
Based on how a compass works, (magnetism) I would hazard a guess that there is NO software fix. Buy a compass. If it doesn't work, it will never work. Software can't fix a bad magnet. I COULD be wrong...I HOPE I'm wrong...I DOUBT I'm wrong.
Magnets are not software. ):
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I asked T-mobile if there would be a fix for the compass along with the GPS on Twitter. This was their reply:
"TMobile_USA: @fjohnette That's what is believed causing the GPS problem so its possible we will keep you updated. ^SG"
--http://www.twitter.com/TMobile_USA/status/20225466968
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"TMobile_USA: @fjohnette That's what is believed causing the GPS problem so its possible we will keep you updated. ^SG"
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So this means it's possible that they will NOT keep you updated??
Anyway, I think we now have the word of every t-mobile CS rep and tech support person and most (if not all) don't really have any idea. I guess it's worth the effort to keep pestering. It'd sure be more comforting to have an official response.
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Based on how a compass works, (magnetism) I would hazard a guess that there is NO software fix. Buy a compass. If it doesn't work, it will never work. Software can't fix a bad magnet. I COULD be wrong...I HOPE I'm wrong...I DOUBT I'm wrong.
Magnets are not software. ):
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You are completely correct in how a compass works... Basic magnetism... However. Just because our compass doesn't work doesn't mean the magnet bit isn't detecting north as it should. It could easily be that the other sensors that detect which way that magnet is oriented are reporting incorrect data, which is possibly fixable via firmware update. Or that the android itself is doing something wrong with that data, or any combination of the above. And these possible causes are far from exhaustive, just a few possibilities off the top of my head.
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Based on how a compass works, (magnetism) I would hazard a guess that there is NO software fix. Buy a compass. If it doesn't work, it will never work. Software can't fix a bad magnet. I COULD be wrong...I HOPE I'm wrong...I DOUBT I'm wrong.
Magnets are not software. ):
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Yep, but every single thing about how that data is collected, interpreted, and passed on to the operating system is software, not to mention the interaction with the accelerometer sensors as Arr mentioned. Lots of potential points of failure here that have everything to do with software. Fingers crossed that it's not just a borked magnetometer.
Very true. As I said, I REALLY REALLY HOPE they can fix it... I'm just worried that we're going to be stuck with broken hardware. I'll never buy a phone on launch-day again...
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Very true. As I said, I REALLY REALLY HOPE they can fix it... I'm just worried that we're going to be stuck with broken hardware. I'll never buy a phone on launch-day again...
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this is my fear as well. It bugs the **** out of me to see people all over the forums violently defending samsung and saying with absolute certainty that a firmware fix is coming.
How do they know it can be fixed with firmware? I'm not saying that it's impossible, I'll be the first to admit I have no idea how the compass actually works, but to post saying that it will be fixed is so unbelievably stupid and irresponsible that I can only attribute it to buyers remorse manifesting itself as post-purchase rationalization.
Too many idiots to have any sort of productive discussion anywhere.
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this is my fear as well. It bugs the **** out of me to see people all over the forums violently defending samsung and saying with absolute certainty that a firmware fix is coming.
How do they know it can be fixed with firmware? I'm not saying that it's impossible, I'll be the first to admit I have no idea how the compass actually works, but to post saying that it will be fixed is so unbelievably stupid and irresponsible that I can only attribute it to buyers remorse manifesting itself as post-purchase rationalization.
Too many idiots to have any sort of productive discussion anywhere.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7252169&postcount=21
The compass is definitely the one thing that annoys me about this phone. I really like Google Sky Maps and 3D compass and right now they are worthless.
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The compass is definitely the one thing that annoys me about this phone. I really like Google Sky Maps and 3D compass and right now they are worthless.
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Agreed. The GPS issues are getting so much attention that the borked compass is falling by the wayside. I actually use the compass, so this is really annoying.
you guys are brave
I returned the phone after a few days and decided to wait for a fix.
When/if the fix comes, I can easily buy the phone again.
To keep the phone is the same thing as keeping you anxiety level high, waiting for a fix, checking every board twice a day.
Is it worth it?
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The compass is definitely the one thing that annoys me about this phone. I really like Google Sky Maps and 3D compass and right now they are worthless.
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Google Sky maps works fine for me. It does lag slightly when rotating, (which seems to match what others are saying about compass lag), but i don't see how it's worthless. It's dead on for me.
Have you tried Google Street View (Compass Mode) or Yelp's 'Monocle' / Layar?
The compass will sometimes point to magnetic North. But most times, it spins around wildly, or simply points to the wrong direction and does not update correctly.
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Google Sky maps works fine for me. It does lag slightly when rotating, (which seems to match what others are saying about compass lag), but i don't see how it's worthless. It's dead on for me.
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A friend and I bought our phones on the same day. Date on the stickers on the box (which I assume is a build date) is 7/17 on both of them. Side-by-side, Google Sky works perfectly for him, and doesn't work at all for me.
My compass points south no matter what orientation the phone is in, or what direction I face. Sometimes if I just stand still for a very long time, it'll slowly sort of drift in one direction or another, but I haven't had the patience to just wait and see whether it ever actually aligns with where I'm facing or if it's just random variation.
Check my little video on youtube about this issue demonstrating how slow the compass reacts.
YouTube, search for: SvAJrR5Gmy0
or "Samsung Vibrant Compass Issues"
still won't let me post links yet....
I did end up getting the other phone working instead of pointing in only one direction. I factory data reset the phone and tried agan and it started pointing in the correct direction at least, still very slow.
I also suggest looking at sensor data to see how your phone performs:
*#*#1472365#*#* >> Test Application >> Show Sensor data
What's the state of GPS on this phone in todays date ? Did it ever get fixed to be as accurate as other phones ?
GPS files from a leaked rom has seem to "fix" the GPS problems. Personally, my gps works ten times better than it has before. Look under development for the files. You need to flash it using clockwork.
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I have never seen a lock on mine until I flashed the leaked GPS fix by itself. Then everytime I look I see at least 10 and lock on 5-6 at least.
Same here. GPS was all but useless, even with the original fixes. On a very lucky try I would lock 3 sats, but that was extremely rare. Usually the norm was between 0 and 1 locks with location accuracy being within 1200 meters.
Last week I flashed bionix 1.3, which includes one of the fixes, and now my phone will consistently lock to a minimum of 5 and sometimes up to 9 satellites.
It's still not perfect and my location jumps around a bit, but it is accurate to within 50 feet and this is acceptable for my use.
As far as I know there is still no reliable word on an official fix from Samsung as they are busy releasing all sorts of wonderful new tablets and such.
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As far as I know there is still no reliable word on an official fix from Samsung as they are busy releasing all sorts of wonderful new tablets and such.
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man, samsung looks like they screw up on the software side everytime. This time they did good on default software side (thank god no ridiculous cube), but now gps is borked and they are taking sweet time releasing the gps fix.
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GPS files from a leaked rom has seem to "fix" the GPS problems. Personally, my gps works ten times better than it has before. Look under development for the files. You need to flash it using clockwork.
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i used the same thing. Now maps locks in seconds, navigation work. Great fix!!
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What's the state of GPS on this phone in todays date ? Did it ever get fixed to be as accurate as other phones ?
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Same as everyone else: none of the "fixes" worked for me until I used the JI2 leaked GPS files. I flashed with Clockword Mod and I get fast, accurate (~7 meters, which is good enough) locks.
After flashing JI2 GPS has worked every time. For over 2 weeks now straight .. fixed for me 100%
I tried the I9000 JPK Froyo on my Vibrant and get a GPS lock as soon as I opened the map program. good news is coming for sure.
i'm still running stock everything, and i can lock anywhere between 2-6 satellites when outdoors. indoor reception is very poor
Zero problems here .
Just turned on the gps and have lock in 9 satellites.
Still no fix for mine. I think its just broken but I don't want to Send it back because I'm afraid of a hardware locked vibrant.
After this post, The XDA app probably forced closed from my froyo lacking Vibrant
sorry but what app are you guys using to 'lock' satellites?
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sorry but what app are you guys using to 'lock' satellites?
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An app doesn't "lock" a satellite -- the Vibrant (firmware) does. If you use LBSTestMode, you'll see which satellite signals are locked by the asterisk [*] at the end of the signal strength.
Alternatively, if you use Google Maps or Navigation, when the blue circle disappears, it usually indicates you have accuracy <10m, which is good enough for street navigation. You could consider this an informal "lock."
GPS status
There are also apps in the market that will show you locks and more info. I use 'GPS Status'
I initially applied the JI2 leaked update, followed by JI4. Using the GPSTest app, I was able to see a lock on to at least 6 satellites within 5-6 seconds, eventually going up to 13 satellites, depending on how many were visible at the time of the test. The leaked update definitely fixes the satellite lock and compass issue, although the GPS still experiences some very minor inaccuracies as far as positioning is concerned - nothing that renders it useless, though. As far as the official update is concerned, it sure looks like Samsung will not be able to live up to the promise of a September release.
yup, I Knew Samsung wouldnt fix this in Sept. OTA
Who cares, the leaked Rom/Custom roms with JI2 work just fine.
Id rather have that then a stock Rom anyways from Samsung.
I have not 1 issue with this phone other than samsung is backing it. No issues now GPS has been resolved in JI2. For me, its good enough to get me where I need to go.
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yup, I Knew Samsung wouldnt fix this in Sept. OTA
Who cares, the leaked Rom/Custom roms with JI2 work just fine.
Id rather have that then a stock Rom anyways from Samsung.
I have not 1 issue with this phone other than samsung is backing it. No issues now GPS has been resolved in JI2. For me, its good enough to get me where I need to go.
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Agreed. Other than the occasional lag, the phone is pretty much 99% functional applying the leaked update. The problem definitely lies with Samsung, though. A lot of Samsung's apologists say "be patient, they are working on it, it'll be out soon, blah blah blah". Based on the leaked updates, it's painfully obvious that Samsung is working on it; however, based on an average lifecycle of a phone (2 years, give or take a couple of months), 10% of the Vibrant's life is already over, and still no official update. I'm definitely not one of the "I'm selling my Vibrant and leaving T-Mobile" people, but the stalling of the OTA makes me question Samsung's approach to future updates.
JI2 has made the GPS good enough for me to not ditch an otherwise great phone. I get locks on 6-10 sats at all times as compared to 0-2 before flashing.
I'm not surprised, however, by Samsung's silence regarding this issue. Unless they shock us with a massive push of a fix by Thursday, their reputation in the cell phone world will continue to slide.
I am running an unrooted stock vibrant. I got the Ji6 update a few weeks back, and I was told that it would improve my GPS. But apparently my GPS still doesn't work. I know there are alot of tweaks and hacks here on xda that supposedly fix the gps, but id rather wait and get the official fix from samsung. But if the ji6 was it, then im quite dissapointed. Does your stock vibrant still have a wonky GPS? Or did the update fix it for you?
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GPS works great!
I am running Bionix 1.9. Last night on my way home, I was in an unfamiliar area on a small side street and got a little lost. I turned on my GPS and opened up Google Maps. Within two seconds it locked me in and gave me directions home. I noticed the address at the top of the screen where it said I was. I looked over at the house number and street I was on and it was exactly right.
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I am running an unrooted stock vibrant. I got the Ji6 update a few weeks back, and I was told that it would improve my GPS. But apparently my GPS still doesn't work. I know there are alot of tweaks and hacks here on xda that supposedly fix the gps, but id rather wait and get the official fix from samsung. But if the ji6 was it, then im quite dissapointed. Does your stock vibrant still have a wonky GPS? Or did the update fix it for you?
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I've never rooted either, and for me it's still not perfect. Sometimes it works well, but other times the location jumps around, or the phone hangs and has to be rebooted.
I've seen an improvement since the JI6 update, but my experience is if you use it enough you will encounter flakiness still.
Would be nice if subsequent updates improve things, but right now that's just a hope.
Yes I had a similar experience, with my stock vibrant which has the j16 update. Took over 5 mins to lock on to the gps signal.
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What kind of GPS fixes did you do? Or did you just flash the bionix rom? Sorry im new to the whole hacking scene. If the GPS really works as well as you said, I might just consider rooting then..
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I am running an unrooted stock vibrant. I got the Ji6 update a few weeks back, and I was told that it would improve my GPS. But apparently my GPS still doesn't work. I know there are alot of tweaks and hacks here on xda that supposedly fix the gps, but id rather wait and get the official fix from samsung. But if the ji6 was it, then im quite dissapointed. Does your stock vibrant still have a wonky GPS? Or did the update fix it for you?
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I believe it's just plain bad hardware, and it's not competitive with most other current smartphones.
I've tried a bunch of ROMs, with similar results. The update gives you a faster lock and an accurate report on the number of satellites, which is nice, but it doesn't do anything for the core accuracy problems which plague the device and cause tracks/navigation issues. It doesn't help that the compass is also still very wonky, which causes Google Navigation to flake out when I'm stopped at a light.
All in all, it's very disappointing. I'm thinking of switching to the Nexus One due to this issue.
I've got an unrooted Vibrant bought in July 2010 whose GPS rarely worked and almost never locked on any satellites. After J16 I get a quick lock on 6-9 out of 11-12 satellites. I am satisfied with it now 99% of time for navigation purposes. I do sometimes get wandering of the target from Google Earth even when standing still.
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I believe it's just plain bad hardware, and it's not competitive with most other current smartphones.
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I'm not so sure about that. I hooked it up to my bluetooth GPS and it looked good for a little while, maybe a few minutes, when sitting at my desk. Then it started going wacky, progressively bouncing the pointer farther and farther from the real position. It might be the software that's bad. I'm going to experiment with it tomorrow on a long trip and try various settings.
Its a hardware problem..
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I believe it's just plain bad hardware, and it's not competitive with most other current smartphones.
I've tried a bunch of ROMs, with similar results. The update gives you a faster lock and an accurate report on the number of satellites, which is nice, but it doesn't do anything for the core accuracy problems which plague the device and cause tracks/navigation issues. It doesn't help that the compass is also still very wonky, which causes Google Navigation to flake out when I'm stopped at a light.
All in all, it's very disappointing. I'm thinking of switching to the Nexus One due to this issue.
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I have to agree. I had the built in car navigation and the vibrant side by side. The vibrant is 200 yards behind while moving. Even when pointing on the current location, it is wondering around the neighborhood on a 200 yard range.
So what's your explanation for what I see with an external GPS which works fine with a laptop? That a phone hardware problem too?
As far as using the internal I've seen it work for an hour fine and then start flippin out. Then again I've seen it flip out in 5-10 minutes.
Gps is one of those things I rarely think about until I have to actually use it. I just came from a week trip to Atlanta and it connected once during my week stay. The GPS on this phone is crap, I feel bad for anyone that has to use it daily. Luckily I got 3g there and was using google maps to help me find locations. My recent devices Milestone and HD2 connected within seconds. This thing is always searching for a signal with a clear view to the sky.
Im in North Florida if that means anything.
i ran bionix final which i think is the ota ji6, not the kies leak ji6 and the gps didn't work well. but the ji2 gps flash worked great, and the ji6 gps in bionix fusion works great.
you are posting on xda, if you just want to complain go to tmonews or something, otherwise there are a lot of easy fixes that are like 5 clicks away...
GPS works fine for me on JI6, however there seems to be a communications error between certain Google apps and the GPS. I use CoPilot. On Bionix Final my GPS went from good, to ok, to bad, to horrific in a matter of days.
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GPS works fine for me on JI6, however there seems to be a communications error between certain Google apps and the GPS. I use CoPilot. On Bionix Final my GPS went from good, to ok, to bad, to horrific in a matter of days.
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I've seen some issues with Google Nav as well. Did some Googling and it's not just the Galaxy S or Samsnug phones. Many users with different brands and models have reported recent problems with the Nav and Map apps.
Very wonky
Here's a may I did yesterday. All was good fo awhile until I stopped for a turn and it went ape [email protected]*#.
http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msa=0&msid=201142930973527917117.0004944eca8f57406c83e
I can assure you that at no time did I ever go 118 mph. This is just one sample. It does it all the time. I've tried every different firmware I can load including stock and I get the same results. I've tried all of the GPS fixes and nothing. Some days it never even locks. I'm convinced that it is a hardware issue.
GPS works for me most of the time. Sometimes it will show I'm in my house. Sometimes my neighbors. Sometimes down the street. A few times across the city.
I wish it was half as good as the wifi. This thing can pull in an access point like it had a high gain directional antenna built in.
I'm even more convinced it's the software. Now my external GPS won't lock either. Sees 12 sats, I can see the data coming in, but it never locks any sat.
Hi all,
I have almost decided that the Galaxy S is going to be my next phone but just wanted to check what the current state of the GPS problem is (yes I have googled but can't find any definitive answer).
Have samsung fixed this and if so what is GPS reception like, how long does it take to pick up a signal etc. How does the GPS chipset compare to the HTC Hero?
Cheers,
Michael
Its not flawless....but works decent enough. The update frequency is slow and has minor accuracy issues, but something you can live with.
Why not wait for a couple months and get a dual core based phone? or even the nexus s instead
i was leaning towards the Galaxy S due to its relatively low second hand price (I have seen some go for just over £200). Moving from a HTC Hero as I am getting more and more frustrated by how much the keyboard and software in general lags and could do with a bigger screen.
Quite like the look of the HTC Desire HD but battery life concerns me.
Nexus S seems over priced for an average handset to me.
iPhone 4 very nice but too expensive and lack of Googlemaps nav is a big downer.
Everything about the Galaxy S seems nice except for this GPS issue...
It is clearly not fixed.
I tested 3 different Galaxy S with 2.1 and one that I upgraded to 2.2 (JL2) and all of them had a broken GPS. It gets a lock, but it is imprecise. Sometimes it think that you are on the next street.<
Never had this problem with: hero, milestone and optimus one.
what about the 2.2.1 roms? have heard some people have had more success with these... anyone tried these?
mine was useless but is much better with 2.2.1
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It has gone from busted to plausible, but still has a bit to go before actually being confirmed.
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You guys should upgrade to JPY, 2.2.1
I get a lock everytime within 10 seconds
2.2.1 working great 4 me also.. no jumping around or loosing lock while navigating.. have tested 4 over 2 hours now..
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You guys should upgrade to JPY, 2.2.1
I get a lock everytime within 10 seconds
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Lock time has never been an issue for me. The problem is that the GPS is wrong/not precise.
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You guys should upgrade to JPY, 2.2.1
I get a lock everytime within 10 seconds
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Same with JPU 2.2.1 roms are just perfect
If locking is not your problem, Da_G has made some awesome progress in tracking over in the Captivate forum. Try out his updates. Really interesting thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=881941
What we really need is tracks to show how good the latest firmware is...
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Same with JPU 2.2.1 roms are just perfect
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It's not an option for all of us. If I flash a ROM not made for Bell Canada, I loose support for my locale.
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What we really need is tracks to show how good the latest firmware is...
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Tell me how to do the tracks and I will do them. I am also experiencing very (dramatically?) improved GPS after the official update to 2.2. Previously GPS Status was showing a lot of satellites, but only a few (3-5) locked. Now it's 10/10 or 9/9 ... Haven't tested it too much around big buildings though (just briefly and was similar to results from my G1).
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What we really need is tracks to show how good the latest firmware is...
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I'll try to record some track with 2.2.1, but the improvement is noticeable.
Maybe it won't be accurate enough for fitness use, but at least it doesn't jump around in a 100 meter range randomly.
Now, for the first time ever my GPS is useable. Not perfect, but reaches the minimum necessary to be useable.
http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msa=0&msid=200899946886418974283.000498631226c188839f0
Google maps may not be 100% accurate here. Track was recorded from a car. Galaxy S with JPY seems to overshoot on corners, but certainly it is good enough for car navigation.
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GPS works much much better since firmware based en 2.2.1. My lock time switch from 1 or 2 minutes for 5/6 satts to 10/15 seconds with 8/11 satts. Accurancy was a bit better with JPU (nearly always 5 meters) but with JPY it's now between 5 and 10 meters.
TLDR: GPS is quite usable now with 2.2.1 ROM.
Read...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=881941
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=878970
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=853698
Hey guys, I was wondering if anyone may know if the new 4.4 Kit Kat will fix all of the Nexus 7 2013 touch screen problems.
Maybe Asus and Google knows it fixes the issue. That's why they didn't rush to help us in the last few months.
Cross your fingers people and hope this fixes all of our issues. That would be sweet.
Oct 28 4.4 I'm thinking.
I hope that... it's been a headache, and that's the only flaw mine has, the fix here fixes it just temporally.
Can't say whether it will or won't but I can say I really doubt they have the fix already in hand and are holding it back waiting for kit kat.
They've never been shy about putting out releases to fix things and a touchscreen fix is very contained and isolated, not something that touches many areas requiring long code reviews.
Can I just ask what kinde of problems you are reffering to? Multitouch problem has been fixed with the latest update. At least mine was. With a multitouch program I placed all 10 fingers on screen and was moving it arround, and it registrated all fingers and arrows were moving very very smoothly. 60fps+. Also, there is no problem with GPS anymore. The only problem which is actually not a problem, is smal buzz from speakers when watching of listening to something at very low volume, but that is reported for all nexus 7 devices because that is how the speakers are made.
You are saying like nexus 7 2013 is forgotten and this 4.4 is our last hope for the device otherwise its useless to use. Which is far from truth. I have absolutely no problems with it.
I don't know, maybe I use the device too much? But I can definitely say ghost touchs and some multi-touch issues are there and persistent. In fact right now as I was writting this the keyboard went crazy, it's really annoying and I don't even want to start with the horrible experience I'm getting with PS Touch(which I use a lot) thanks to this problem. Sometimes I have to reboot the device when it goes crazy zooming while navigating the internet.
For you guys that your tablet is "perfect", fascinating, good for you, but that doesn't mean the problem doesn't exists anymore, you just got lucky.
I personally have no more touchscreen issues since JSS15Q, but if there is another touchscreen fix in KitKat that would be good to the few unlucky ones still having issue with theirs..
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Can I just ask what kinde of problems you are reffering to? Multitouch problem has been fixed with the latest update. At least mine was. With a multitouch program I placed all 10 fingers on screen and was moving it arround, and it registrated all fingers and arrows were moving very very smoothly. 60fps+. Also, there is no problem with GPS anymore. The only problem which is actually not a problem, is smal buzz from speakers when watching of listening to something at very low volume, but that is reported for all nexus 7 devices because that is how the speakers are made.
You are saying like nexus 7 2013 is forgotten and this 4.4 is our last hope for the device otherwise its useless to use. Which is far from truth. I have absolutely no problems with it.
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The few that had touchscreen problems initially were fixed. 75% of working units were broken in the process. Its a big issue. We have a fix but nothing from Google. There are several screen variances which make it impossible for a single 1 fix all solution.
Google will have to detect each variance and patch accordingly. Probably why it hasn't been released yet because it probably will take a larger testing period then previously mentioned. Even using the XDA fix, some versions can cause several FCs and bugs. Similar to the specific pattern freakout.
With 4.4 on the horizon, it would be best to include it in that. Google probably isn't going to create an OTA and then another one in a few weeks.
Just cross your fingers and hope for an official fix.
GPS was fixed though. I'm not sure about the kernel reboots though. I haven't used the stock kernel nor had reboots since I flashed CM Kanged.
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The few that had touchscreen problems initially were fixed. 75% of working units were broken in the process. Its a big issue. We have a fix but nothing from Google. There are several screen variances which make it impossible for a single 1 fix all solution.
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Any source for that 75% number? Without a proper source it is hard to not consider that as a case of the loud minority.
If it were that serve of a problem we would hear the tech press clamoring about it by now. But nothing was said about N7 touchscreen by the tech press since JSS15Q.
I can't tell you what the real percentages are, but the touchscreen issue is definitely a much bigger problem than your standard problems.
Standard run-of-the-mill issues get a thread with maybe 20 posts. Touchscreen is producing 1000 post threads. So relative to normal problems it is a big problem, but whether that is a 5% vs 1% problem or a 75% vs 1% problem I could not tell you.
There are at least 3 huge threads on Google support forums about this problem:
Multi-touch - reports of improvement, no improvement, and some worse
Multi-touch (continued) - more reports of fixed / not fixed for JSS15R
Multi-touch (continued 2) - more reports of touchscreen issues
BTW I created the xda fix for touchscreen so I'm very familiar with the fixes Google put out and whether they have fixed the issue. JSS15R fixed it for some screens but made it much worse for others.
That's the main reason I haven't sent my Nexus for repair, is not hardware related, or at least that's what I think, please someone correct me if I'm wrong.
NekroWolfen said:
That's the main reason I haven't sent my Nexus for repair, is not hardware related, or at least that's what I think, please someone correct me if I'm wrong.
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Well, actually it is hardware related, but you can't tell if your hardware is one type or another without using Sfhub's process.
Well, thanks for confirming
I personally don't think that all of the touchscreen issues will be fixed with Kit Kat. I feel that Google will he focusing more on a fully operational OS, and that we'll need a dedicated fix to solve our problems.
But I surely hope that I'm wrong.
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any word of usb audio coming via kitkat. ive been waiting for this feature to come to the nexus 7 forever because its keepingme outof my car
Lockeskidney said:
any word of usb audio coming via kitkat. ive been waiting for this feature to come to the nexus 7 forever because its keepingme outof my car
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At this point, questions to me are almost meaningless to ask. We night as well wait for tomorrow. It took long enough to arrive.
It just sucks that I don't have my tablet. I went back to Radio Shack and ordered the 32gb through them, since none of their stores had that version on their shelves, and 16gb was not working out for me. At least I'll get to download it as soon as I get my new device!
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GPS isn't solved to me.
diogobuique said:
GPS isn't solved to me.
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That's a hardware issue, I suggest you to send it back to Google.
Kitkat gave me phantom touch issues, have none before kitkat. :-\
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This process doesn’t wipe the tablet, so your settings, apps and everything else should stay in tact whenever you get back to the system. Remember that you will have lost root at this point, but it’s easy enough to get that back.. Cool resource!
But before kitkat my GPS worked very well