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Why not just wait

Ok i know most here like myself want froyo pretty badly. Much respect to the devs here and cm for bringing us froyo but honestly until htc releases the kernel whats the point. From the froyo flashes i have ran they all are nice but there isnt any performance increase over the rest of the roms that have been released so far. Yes according to linpack and quadrant the current froyo is faster but in real world situations it isnt.
This is no way a bash to the developers. They have worked extremely hard so far to get us what we do have. I just say to wait for the kernel to be released and then let the magic happen.
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I like trying new things. I just don't like that eugene and other devs release broken roms and tell us not to "complain" when all we are doing is stating what's broken
Let it be known I'm not trying to start anything. I guess its a reason to wait for offical release because nothin will be broken
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Im not necessarily saying to wait for an official release. Take cyanogen mod 6 for example. They are putting alot of hard work into getting froyo to us but on the stock kernel. Once the kernel is released then there going to have more work on their hands.
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Saneless said:
I like trying new things. I just don't like that eugene and other devs release broken roms and tell us not to "complain" when all we are doing is stating what's broken
Let it be known I'm not trying to start anything. I guess its a reason to wait for offical release because nothin will be broken
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*double take* What? Is everyone here daft? They do this out of the kindness of their cockles and tease us about not complaining and then make updates, anyway! I'm having fun, son! Lighten up, homeslice. Let's kiss.

Personally I really like that these ROMs are out. It's like a ray of hope that 2.2 is coming, regardless of what T-Mobile or HTC decide to do. The one thing I've been really irked about when it comes to the carriers and handset makers is that they don't seem as interested in new technology. When T-Mo says that the myTouch is going to get froyo, I am kind of thinking that there's no reason to hold your breath. Maybe froyo will come, maybe next year, and honestly I don't want to wait that long. So it's nice to see even these ROMs because it means that the stable version is coming, and not on a T-Mo schedule...

im waiting !!!! lol

First off, I really appreciate all the hard work the devs are putting in. I kinda notice that the other new devices are getting more love then the slide but I guess that's due to its lack of "hype" or maybe since it's still fairly new.
I must say I'm joining the waiting boat though. My first slide was a breeze to root and mod. Unfortunately, I took it in for exchange (squeeky battery door and dust under the screen). The new one hasn't been so easy to mod. I managed to root and flash Eugene's SMR5r1, which I had on the old phone and loved. Since then all attempts to get into Clockwork have failed. I'm chillin' until there's an easier method.

daewond3r said:
First off, I really appreciate all the hard work the devs are putting in. I kinda notice that the other new devices are getting more love then the slide but I guess that's due to its lack of "hype" or maybe since it's still fairly new.
I must say I'm joining the waiting boat though. My first slide was a breeze to root and mod. Unfortunately, I took it in for exchange (squeeky battery door and dust under the screen). The new one hasn't been so easy to mod. I managed to root and flash Eugene's SMR5r1, which I had on the old phone and loved. Since then all attempts to get into Clockwork have failed. I'm chillin' until there's an easier method.
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Did you flash Eng-Build? If you didn't then you won't be able to get into Clockwork.

you guys complain way too much. threads like these make the devs shut it down all together. eugene373 has done that before and if these bs threads keep getting created then we can for sure hang it up and wait for the official release. so just be a lil...(f*ck that), A LOT more appreciative of the devs and their work on froyo

we put out buggy alphas because you cant wait.
we say no feedback because we know its broken. we also run our own roms so we are also testing and fixing on fly

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I like how you use the same image for everything, I see you trying to get your post count up.
Anyways, I'm waiting for the official 2.2 as of now, I don't mind the wait, and I don't really like the roms put out right now, I enjoy using the custom Sense UI, that's one of the main reasons I got the slide. I really hope a dev starts improving on the espresso UI more. I appreciate all of the other work devs are doing, but it's too much vanilla android for my taste. After having a G1 and MT3G for a year you kind of want something new

sultan.of.swing said:
Ok i know most here like myself want froyo pretty badly. Much respect to the devs here and cm for bringing us froyo but honestly until htc releases the kernel whats the point. From the froyo flashes i have ran they all are nice but there isnt any performance increase over the rest of the roms that have been released so far. Yes according to linpack and quadrant the current froyo is faster but in real world situations it isnt.
This is no way a bash to the developers. They have worked extremely hard so far to get us what we do have. I just say to wait for the kernel to be released and then let the magic happen.
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Yeah actually you're pretty much totally correct but it's nice to test the froyo fun anyway.
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Anartic said:
I like how you use the same image for everything, I see you trying to get your post count up
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If I wanted to get my post count up I would post stupid threads like this in sections where they don't belong... educate, don't hate.
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Don't hate...motivate...
That being said you and your thread failed thing were funny at first but taken out of moderation all you are doing is trolling and that didn't help either.
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Sleef said:
*double take* What? Is everyone here daft? They do this out of the kindness of their cockles and tease us about not complaining and then make updates, anyway! I'm having fun, son! Lighten up, homeslice. Let's kiss.
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What i was saying was regardless of doing it out of "kindness" you dont have to be a **** to everyone when they ask questions.

Exactly
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Back to the topic...
I kind of agree! I love the stock sense ui and was pretty disappointed when devs strayed from 2.1 sense roms. After trying a couple of froyo roms.. I've decided I'm sticking with smr4 with the sense ui. I WOULD go back to stock but I would miss a2sd waaaaaay too much.
Waiting for official froyo.
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Other phones getting froyo .. not vibrant yet

So other phones are getting froyo, even a leaked version is out and we are stuck with nothing for the vibrant. The Droid 2 has froyo already and it just came out a few days ago. What's up with that? And I'm guessing the only thing we can expect new is browser speed and flash anyhow right? What about Samsung manually fixing that damn lag fix themselves and fully using the power of this device?
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Uhm. there was a leaked version of 2.2 for the Vibrant (international version). What exactly is the point that you're trying to get at?
No there are more features.. JIT is one of the most important ones.
Do some research before making your point, Samsung has already said Froyo is due near September. Be patient. Root your phone if you want to use the "Lagfix."
There are also 10 more threads asking the same thing, we don't need any more of these threads. It'll be out sooner than you know it as long as you stop focusing so much on it.

Excuse u I'm free to generally speak about whatever I want. Like I said, Samsung should have set their phone to maximum performance when releasing it and there wouldn't even have to be a lag fix. I see there's a nationalal release of froyo for devs but I'm curious as to how the Droid 2 got a working froyo already. And don't come in here telling me what I can type. What the heck is wrong with u? I'm smart when it comes to these phones and its unfortunate that u cant understand my point. Get off of my topic
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stepinmyworld said:
Excuse u I'm free to generally speak about whatever I want. Like I said, Samsung should have set their phone to maximum performance when releasing it and there wouldn't even have to be a lag fix. I see there's a nationalal release of froyo for devs but I'm curious as to how the Droid 2 got a working froyo already. And don't come in here telling me what I can type. What the heck is wrong with u? I'm smart when it comes to these phones and its unfortunate that u cant understand my point. Get off of my topic
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If your "smart when it comes to these phones" you would know that motorola has been working on 2.2 since the second it came out. Samsung has a lot more going on with the UI than motorola does, so its not as easy for them to just get it out. Your ignorance to posting the SAME DAMN QUESTION that multiple people have asked is where he gets the right to tell you not to make another pointless thread. It will comes when it comes, until then quit crying.

You know Motorola Droid 2 is the only phone to be released on launch date with Android 2.2? September is a pretty quick date for a Froyo 2.2 compared to:
myTouch 3G (Stock): 1.6
T-Mobile G1 (Stock): 1.6
Motorola Cliq: 1.6
------> Sony Ericsson Xperia: 1.6
------> Dell Streak 5: 1.6
IF ANYTHING Samsung is doing a great job compared to Dell and Sony which will probably be getting Froyo at a LATER date.
The Galaxy S is ranked #1 as highest benchmarks with the lagfix. So I don't get what you mean by "maximium performance." If a number on your Android is bothering you then you should of purchased a Nexus One or a DROID 2 instead. Droid 2 has got a "working froyo" because it LAUNCHED with it and when the phone was being made Motorola, Verizon were probably working together with Google to launch this.
And since you said that you have rights to publish this, I have my rights to express my opinion as well and I think that all these posts saying that the Vibrant isn't on 2.2 isn't going to make the vibrant get it any faster. The phone is relatively new and developers are getting more familiar with Samsung.
Just enjoy the phone for what it is right now, there are certainly a lot more to do on it than a new version of Android. Coming from a G1 (even though I had 2.2) this is a significant milestone for me on how smooth the device is.
Edit: Agreed with fenixnr, pretty much what I said.

stepinmyworld said:
Excuse u I'm free to generally speak about whatever I want. Like I said, Samsung should have set their phone to maximum performance when releasing it and there wouldn't even have to be a lag fix. I see there's a nationalal release of froyo for devs but I'm curious as to how the Droid 2 got a working froyo already. And don't come in here telling me what I can type. What the heck is wrong with u? I'm smart when it comes to these phones and its unfortunate that u cant understand my point. Get off of my topic
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Unfortunately for you, this is a forum, and there are rules and etiquette to abide by.
Your point is easily understood - you want froyo, like NOW. Just chill out, be patient, and learn some manners.
Thanks.

Definitely agree with the others on this. Froyo will come soon enough. Samsung has stated it. There's nothing you can do to change that. The other thing you need to take into consideration between the Droid 2 and the Vibrant.......Droid 2 - Motorola. Vibrant - Samsung.
Different companies.

Do we really need another thread about this? Froyo won't come any faster just coming in here and *****ing about it, so why don't you just relax, do something productive and have fun while waiting for the update. It will be here soon.

Take a deep breath ... woosahh ... woosah .. Froyo will come soon enough ..

I'm clearly abiding by the rules. My topic didn't ask a question, I'm simply getting opinions from you guys as to why froyo was released so quickly on the Droid 2 but I understand now... I realized that Motorola released froyo for the regular Droid a little while ago *well not full release* but I can't stand when someone comes in here and feel the need to type rude stuff to people. I'm grown. If the topic seems pointless like others then allow it to die off and not reply to it if you don't have anything respectful to say. Rude people I yell you. But thanks to the ones that have some type of respect when replying. Smh
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stepinmyworld said:
Excuse u I'm free to generally speak about whatever I want. Like I said, Samsung should have set their phone to maximum performance when releasing it and there wouldn't even have to be a lag fix. I see there's a nationalal release of froyo for devs but I'm curious as to how the Droid 2 got a working froyo already. And don't come in here telling me what I can type. What the heck is wrong with u? I'm smart when it comes to these phones and its unfortunate that u cant understand my point. Get off of my topic
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HAHA, this is awesome. When has any phone, or electronic device for that matter, been released to "its maximum performance" and or have no problems in the history of time? Would you really want that? Have no room for improvement?
While you wait for 2.2 to drop (when ever it does) I would suggest go through the dev forum and try some of great stuff thats out already. Had my phone for 3 weeks and after spending some time all my problems are GONE! Nothing is ever going to perfect, even when 2.2 comes out your phone still might not make you happy. haha
just my .02

stepinmyworld said:
I'm clearly abiding by the rules. My topic didn't ask a question, I'm simply getting opinions from you guys as to why froyo was released so quickly on the Droid 2 but I understand now... I realized that Motorola released froyo for the regular Droid a little while ago *well not full release* but I can't stand when someone comes in here and feel the need to type rude stuff to people. I'm grown. If the topic seems pointless like others then allow it to die off and not reply to it if you don't have anything respectful to say. Rude people I yell you. But thanks to the ones that have some type of respect when replying. Smh
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another reason Moto was quick to release froyo was the fact that they only have to test it for one carrier, Verizon. Samsung needs to test froyo for all the carriers that offer the Galaxy.....which is basically all of them.
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w00t!
Hang the OP time!
The galaxy S phones kick all others to the curb.

I agree unlike others. Froyo has been out since may... they need to get on it. Call me impatient and in gonna agree.... hell even cm6 is taking ages..... yes I'm impatient again.lol

I can't wait for the day we get FROYO on the vibrant. Then the forum can fill up with the "Where's my Gingerbread" threads,

The one thing I hate more than a redundant question is all of the replies that point out the obvious fact that the OP is asking a redundant question.
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jeremiah_mn said:
I can't wait for the day we get FROYO on the vibrant. Then the forum can fill up with the "Where's my Gingerbread" threads,
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Just give me some Zeppole and let's be done with it.

I love when I got onto the forum, there was a topic IDENTICAL to this right next to it.
It's fine that you wanna post w/e you want... but the "opinions" you wanted are right there, check those out first.

simple solution for those who "can't" wait
return your Samsung device and purchase a device that has Froyo, maybe the Nexus one or whatever else has Froyo already out for it.
Problem solved.. then you will have to find the next thing in life to complain about.

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return your Samsung device and purchase a device that has Froyo, maybe the Nexus one or whatever else has Froyo already out for it.
Problem solved.. then you will have to find the next thing in life to complain about.
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maybe you are not well informed but, the n1 is no longer for sale to the general public, and the ones found in the developers market are back ordered....
I love my vibrant, but its kinda upsetting that my 8 month old phone did so many things better than the phone with the best hardware on the market.

Is the epic development thread dead?

We have lost our only true developer...we probably have about 2 or 3 working roms in total....and everytime someone tries to add something new they either get trashed or treated like crap by this so called "community"..i really wish this was more like vibrant or captivate threads...but i guess its not happening

Maybe we need to pony up the cash and buy a dev an epic.
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Quit your yappin. Its not dead, devs are just waiting for a better working Froyo leak.
Android Central: We know everyone out there is waiting on Froyo for their Fascinates, Epics, Captivates, and Vibrants. Samsung has given the carriers their code, and the carriers are testing. We are waiting on them now.

Are you serous? There are devs still here, and they are busy. The only true dev? were you using andromeda before froyo came out? Why don't you be patient until the official froyo is out, the work is coming! Its hard to develop a rom without thee source code and no one is putting their time into 2.1 this late?
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It's not that the dev community is dead. It's more like the calm before the storm. the anticipated official release of froyo is what everyone preparing for. Some are busy cooking roms for the leaked releases while some are digging into other similar official releases to hopefully get a jump start for the epic release.
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orpheostelos said:
We have lost our only true developer...we probably have about 2 or 3 working roms in total....and everytime someone tries to add something new they either get trashed or treated like crap by this so called "community"..i really wish this was more like vibrant or captivate threads...but i guess its not happening
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Why are you even posting this here? This should be in General!! You posting this here alone tells me you dont know what the heck your talking about!!! The only "true" Dev? What the hell are you talking about? Theres plenty of awesume Dev's here!! A lot more than you think!

I've been worried about this as well. While "the only true dev" might be an exaggeration, noobnl was one of our greatest assets. Isn't his Eclair ROM what basically all other ROMs are based off of? How about his Andromeda kernel? One-Click Root? His work with ClockworkMod Recovery? CyanogenMod? I'm hoping collectively all our amazing devs can fill his ginormous shoes. His innovations gave us so much.

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I've been worried about this as well. While "the only true dev" might be an exaggeration, noobnl was one of our greatest assets. Isn't his Eclair ROM what basically all other ROMs are based off of? How about his Andromeda kernel? One-Click Root? His work with ClockworkMod Recovery? CyanogenMod? I'm hoping collectively all our amazing devs can fill his ginormous shoes. His innovations gave us so much.
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Yeah people dint apriciate his work enough,sht I would leave too if people were saying that im withholding roms,so what if i am witholding roms?arent they mine to begin with?and sharing them on xda is a privilege.

Ok I may be wrong about "the only true dev thing"...I just want to understand why our community is isolated from each other...just take a quick peak at the facinate thread,a phone that came out almost a month after the epic...the development area its going smothly there. Even our own carrier has left us on the backdoor...how many updates had we have ...2....compare to 8 0r 7 on the EVO.

ragnarokx said:
I've been worried about this as well. While "the only true dev" might be an exaggeration, noobnl was one of our greatest assets. Isn't his Eclair ROM what basically all other ROMs are based off of? How about his Andromeda kernel? One-Click Root? His work with ClockworkMod Recovery? CyanogenMod? I'm hoping collectively all our amazing devs can fill his ginormous shoes. His innovations gave us so much.
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One-Click Root: A script. Very simple. The hack on the adb daemon (rageagainstthecage) that it uses works on every > 2.1 Android phone and was done by a brilliant dev at c-skills.blogspot.com I believe.
Andromeda: Another kernel. Mine wasn't based of his at all. Devins is based off mine, and possibly a few of noobs tweaks haven't checked. Hero's wasn't based on it. Not sure about fluffkernel or any of the others.
Clockwork: Point for you. He did get the ramdisk working with it, but koush did most of the work on the final version.
Cyanogenmod: WesGarner's work for the Vibrant, but with an Epic kernel & ramdisk.
Not saying he didn't do anything, but I AM saying that people blow everything out of proportion without realizing how simple some of it is, either from ignorance or just misunderstanding.

It's the holidays. Cut them some slack.

orpheostelos said:
We have lost our only true developer...we probably have about 2 or 3 working roms in total....and everytime someone tries to add something new they either get trashed or treated like crap by this so called "community"..i really wish this was more like vibrant or captivate threads...but i guess its not happening
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There are lots of great developers/modders on the EPIC forum including noobl. Right now, without the final release of FROYO and without FROYO sources, everyone is on a standby.
For the 2.1 ROMS, EPIC Exp and Syndicate are both great 2.1 ROMS. There are several great 2.1 kernals as well. With so many great 2.1 options, not much more that can be tweaked that is truly interesting.
If you're interested in playing with beta 2.2 roms, there are few great options there as well. In fact, within 24 hours of the DK18 leak, there were three ROMS to choose from. Not bad.
Regardless, you'll see this forum pick up pretty quick after the final release of 2.2 and 2.2 sources.
Of course by the time 2.2 comes out for EPIC, google will release gingerbread and everyone will be asking when gingerbread will be coming out for EPIC. Not going to hold my breath for that one.

I came from the hero and that dev community was amazing. The debs here are great but it definitely isn't as exciting as I feel the hero rout experience was. I recall thread suggestions and devs quickly entering with an affirmative answer or why it wasnt possible. I made a simple request about the vanilla lock screen and never heard anything. I do love what the devs have done though.
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OP = Chicken Little

While this community is great it seems deadcompared to the evo community but I blame samsung for this and them taking there sweet ass time pushing out 2.2...if its not out by december 5th I'm selling my epic for good and will stick with my evo
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if its not out by december 5th I'm selling my epic for good and will stick with my evo
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Might as well get a head start now. Not trying to spread doom and gloom, but that date will sadly come and go before we see Froyo.

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Might as well get a head start now. Not trying to spread doom and gloom, but that date will sadly come and go before we see Froyo.
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Please tell us the reason for that is Samsung is actually trying to fix all the issues..and not them implementing say bloat ware or being slackers,,right?

Selling your EPICs or switch them back for the EVO won't help minimize the problem that we have here....we need to think of a way to get the drama out of this forums ....to keep it clean of negativate things, come on pleople...this isn't the place to start whining cus your girlfriend dumped you or cuz you personal issues with yourself....we all have different reason to be here....beta testing, developing, to improve our phones or even to mess with it up to point we either break our phone or make them better than anybody else's

A lot of what you guys are seeing is vert similar to the moment community. When I had my moment things always got dramatic. I think it was mainly out of frustration towards sprint. You see it even now there are rumors that froyo is being pushed back but sprint won't say a damn word either way and in the end they will conduct themselves in a way that will make epic owners feel slighted their pr dept must suck. I say e ask ban together and make this pioneer great because like with rhett moment spring isn't going to make out great our dev's are going too. And fyi i don't think noob will ever be gone he just went underground. He's working behind the scenes he loves deving too much
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We have lost our only true developer...
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You guys are awesome.

Whats up guys ...
Hope you all enjoy Gingerbread it seems to be close to release and comming along pretty good ...
I also want to thank the Devs and all of the people who's hard work goes into making Kernels, Themes, Roms,How to videos ...
This has been my favorite forum (even with its ups and downs -_- )on XDA all of you guys are awesome
Thanks!! for making the epic a truly Epic phone.
Keep up the good work guys hope you guys enjoy what time you have left here.
before i leave though ...
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I got one for each of you

Thanks! ................

Great post
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Where you going? There are still treats to be had!
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I know ... i'm on he fence ... there are so many douches on the 3vo forums
appearantly im a "wannabe mod"
so w/e ...

iSaint said:
I know ... i'm on he fence ... there are so many douches on the 3vo forums
appearantly im a "wannabe mod"
so w/e ...
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Lol I'm sorry your going to have a hard time there, so many trolls heading that way
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iSaint said:
I know ... i'm on he fence ... there are so many douches on the 3vo forums
appearantly im a "wannabe mod"
so w/e ...
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Stay here! We know you here. Lol
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I won't be going to the Within, but I'll be sending decent people there.
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Its amazing the maturity of the people on the Epic forums compared to the Evo forums ... it's ridiculous

woot woot!

Ditto on the Within. I haven't truely made up my mind just yet (although I hate the screen, cams and battery life on the evo3d). I don't get my upgrade til September (epic release date) after calling Sprint about premier gold vs silver (thanks again guys!) and my plan is to wait about a month (if necessary) to see what Cyanogenmod prospects look like on both platforms. If the within has good progress at least being made, within for sure. But if it's a small dev community (don't get me wrong, ours is certainly quality over quantity ) again working on a very different us variant with issues, it may be enough to make me take the Evo3D. I love its resolution like you wouldn't believe, but I think the screen looks like crap because of the 3d surface on top of it. Plus qualcomm crappy battery life, 720p 5mp only cameras... should be interesting!
I don't think I'm alone in saying though the epic taught me a very valuable lesson. Never buy on release day. Its hard I know but the epic is great, we've STILL got great devs hard at work, and gingerbread and flash look better than on a mac (which almost always suck with fash). I'll wait it out a bit. If I upgrade it'll be mostly for software support, mods and a bit more running ram for multitasking.
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This is basically my thoughts ... i think im going to wait ... but you can order the Evo 3d online now ...
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Ditto on the Within. I haven't truely made up my mind just yet (although I hate the screen, cams and battery life on the evo3d). I don't get my upgrade til September (epic release date) after calling Sprint about premier gold vs silver (thanks again guys!) and my plan is to wait about a month (if necessary) to see what Cyanogenmod prospects look like on both platforms. If the within has good progress at least being made, within for sure. But if it's a small dev community (don't get me wrong, ours is certainly quality over quantity ) again working on a very different us variant with issues, it may be enough to make me take the Evo3D. I love its resolution like you wouldn't believe, but I think the screen looks like crap because of the 3d surface on top of it. Plus qualcomm crappy battery life, 720p 5mp only cameras... should be interesting!
I don't think I'm alone in saying though the epic taught me a very valuable lesson. Never buy on release day. Its hard I know but the epic is great, we've STILL got great devs hard at work, and gingerbread and flash look better than on a mac (which almost always suck with fash). I'll wait it out a bit. If I upgrade it'll be mostly for software support, mods and a bit more running ram for multitasking.
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Mystery's ability to do what he did with froyo makes me wonder what we'll get from ACS regarding GB. This release was sick. It's the froyo we were all seeking. I think we're on track to see our phones rise as their reliability continue to cruise. I know people still joining older phones for cost reasons. We'll have another wave enter our community down the road. It's all cyclical. The Within crowd will be demanding before they learn patience. Be strong, grasshoppers.

That reminds me, in preparation for my trip to Amsterdam and Germany I was updating my old TP2 (for the sim card slot, last year I got 6.5-7mbps on vodafone germany, for ten euros for the month prepaid! Way faster than 3g sprint, kinda funny). They still have active development going on! Its awesome, I love the community! June 6th for the rom, then they've got a very nice froyo (and somewhat unstable gingerbread) in both nand flash or haret boot. Amazing. That and the wpa-supplicant ad-hoc hack for the epic and I'll be tethering my epic to the tp2, google voice and skype, ten euros prepaid internet and I'll be good to go! Did I mention I love the community?!
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iSaint said:
I know ... i'm on he fence ... there are so many douches on the 3vo forums
appearantly im a "wannabe mod"
so w/e ...
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Ya, getting the 3d on friday. But I've noticed to, to many a-holes on evo threads.
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iSaint said:
I know ... i'm on he fence ... there are so many douches on the 3vo forums
appearantly im a "wannabe mod"
so w/e ...
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I saw that post... I think everyone there will be a lot nicer once they actually get their phones.

readingkeeper said:
I saw that post... I think everyone there will be a lot nicer once they actually get their phones.
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They're already backordered (gives me an excuse not to be with them)... so im not getting it Samsung Within it is then ...

iSaint said:
They're already backordered (gives me an excuse not to be with them)... so im not getting it Samsung Within it is then ...
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I would wait, a little longer for better phone

davidrules7778 said:
I would wait, a little longer for better phone
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Yea i don't really have a choice now ... my mom spent the money i saved up for it ...
She said she'll pay for the Within.. so $200 and im guessing the Within will be more .. so im making interest

SamsungJohn is back

So SamsungJohn is back and since the Vibrant has not received an update to Gingerbread I think we might get a final answer as to whether not we are getting it.
(I honestly couldn't care less I'm happy with my phone but it would be nice to know for sure).
So SamsungJohn, do you have any information like you did with Froyo?

vibrant gets ICS in 2 days

reuthermonkey said:
vibrant gets ICS in 2 days
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screw ics, we're jumping straight to honey bun

bfranklin1986 said:
screw ics, we're jumping straight to honey bun
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Errr.... We're getting Mold Bread
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So SamsungJohn is back and since the Vibrant has not received an update to Gingerbread I think we might get a final answer as to whether not we are getting it.
(I honestly couldn't care less I'm happy with my phone but it would be nice to know for sure).
So SamsungJohn, do you have any information like you did with Froyo?
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Wait how do you know he's back has he been posting lately?

xriderx66 said:
Wait how do you know he's back has he been posting lately?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1291758

sahil04 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1291758
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Yea sorry to burst your bubble, but im pretty sure his big announcements are going to be to announce upcoming nexus devices.
I doubt we are going to see an official Gingerbread release for the vibrant because it doesnt just pop up over night, an official release require extensive testing, the likes of which usually result in leaks or at the very least somewhat substantiated rumors. If you recall in our wait for Froyo we saw countless leaks over the span of several months.
I for one cannot wait to see the announcement for the prime and other nexus devices. Im through with carrier branded devices.

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Yea sorry to burst your bubble, but im pretty sure his big announcements are going to be to announce upcoming nexus devices.
I doubt we are going to see an official Gingerbread release for the vibrant because it doesnt just pop up over night, an official release require extensive testing, the likes of which usually result in leaks or at the very least somewhat substantiated rumors. If you recall in our wait for Froyo we saw countless leaks over the span of several months.
I for one cannot wait to see the announcement for the prime and other nexus devices. Im through with carrier branded devices.
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Oh I already know that the big announcement is probably in relation to the upcoming Nexus device. What I was talking about is post #15 where he says:
Thanks Chainfire, please do stay in touch. As for me, I'm going to check out some of the XDA Samsung forums and see what's been going on.
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Vibrant is a Samsung device so I thought he'd come in here and people might be interested in getting a definitive answer whether or not the Vibrant will be getting updated or not from a legit source.

sahil04 said:
Vibrant is a Samsung device so I thought he'd come in here and people might be interested in getting a definitive answer whether or not the Vibrant will be getting updated or not from a legit source.
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Ah my bad, i only read the first page :x lol

I got his attention:
SamsungJohn,
I'm not meaning to harrass you at all, but is there any way you could shed some light on whether or not the Samsung Vibrant will be getting a gingerbread update?
It has been in question for a long time now, seeing as the other SGS devices got it... we are all kind of wondering why it was left in the dust. I mean, Gingerbread improves on the CPU the Vibrant is equipped with, bringing it to its full potential more-so than Froyo.
I, and many others purchased the phone on a 2 year contract with updates in mind. Its only a year old phone, it seems kind of rude that it has already been abandoned (if that is the case) I know you don't make all the decisions there at Samsung, but If you can see it from our point of view, could you maybe speak with someone that does have control over the situation?
I love the Hardware, beautiful screen, and Samsung in general... But please John, tell them they are going to lose future customers if they drop phones after such a short amount of time. It irritates people who bought a phone with the SGS label, and already people are seeing it as inferior to device to those of the same timeframe, such as the G2... Because HTC has kept the phone updated and their customers happy, Many of them will return to HTC for their next device.
Thanks for your time, and being a part of this community.
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His Response:
Hello imitebewrong,
I haven't heard anything about the update for the Vibrant. As soon as I get some valuable information I will let you know.
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Seriously I'm not hoping anymore, I'll just be disappointed anyway.
I just hope we'll be have a port of custom rom ICS.

Why don't you guys just use this as a freaking learning lesson. Don't purchase anymore Samsung phones (exception Samsung made Nexus).

SamsungVibrant said:
Don't purchase anymore Samsung phones (exception Samsung made Nexus).
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Way to contradict yourself.

SamsungVibrant said:
Why don't you guys just use this as a freaking learning lesson. Don't purchase anymore Samsung phones (exception Samsung made Nexus).
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Lol! Samsung is quality and there notches above everyone else and everyone knows that. Plus we have XDA for updates in my opinion
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Maybe your energy should be focused at Tmobile, who had proven track record of not providing updates.
I do believe that going with non carrier based phones is the correct track.
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SamsungVibrant said:
Why don't you guys just use this as a freaking learning lesson. Don't purchase anymore Samsung phones (exception Samsung made Nexus).
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No.
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I am not sure what SamsungJohn's official title or job is but he is certainly not in customer relations. He has never given a decent straight forward answer. I almost think I would rather have a lower quality phone that gets updates than a high quality hardware phone that never gets updated.
I love my phone but not releasing updates has made me think my next phone and tablet will not be a Samsung device. I have a 2.2.1 wifi Galaxy Tab that has never seen an update and a Vibrant with only one update. And to be fair, the update to FroYo on the Vibrant was something that it should have shipped with to begin with. To compound the issue we get no response or time frames on any updates. That is just horrible customer service.

Thanks for the hardworking of T-mobile or Samsung,
I wont get any Android products without "Nexus" in their ass

I will stay with T-mobile because it suits my current needs. 2 lines $130, unlimited un-throttled data on both; but I will never buy another phone that is not Nexus.
I almost rather be the douche with an Iphone, know it's being locked down, have less features, etc, but know I will have a working gps and support in 6 months. Being able to make calls....well they are all just holding the phone wrong anyway.

adamcooks said:
Maybe your energy should be focused at Tmobile, who had proven track record of not providing updates.
I do believe that going with non carrier based phones is the correct track.
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I'm really not sure when people are going to get it. It's Tmobile to blame, not Samsung.