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after a brief affair with the hd2.....

coming back to the n1.
long story short, had the n1 since release...sold it to get the hd2. after about 6 weeks with the hd2 i'm selling it. ordered my n1 today and it should arrive tomorrow.
hd2 is a nice device but imo doesnt compare overall to the n1.
no real point to this post other than to state it feels good to come back home.

let me guess, it's the windows mobile. lol

Mokurex said:
let me guess, it's the windows mobile. lol
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pretty much. sense helped alot though

HTC Evo 4g sounds like a winner for you. HD2 form factor+Android.

I had a similar experience, Nexus One then bought the HD2, great hardware, superb device, the problem is Windows Mobile, really bad, so I am back with the Nexus One
Now regarding the EVO, the problem will be Sprint, great device, great OS (Android), not that great service and coverage (no international coverage).
We need an EVO equivalent device with AT&T or Verizon.

i think the 2 areas where the hd2 excelled was screen (however debatable...quality vs quantity) and music (possibly simply for having an eq). just about all other areas i have to give it to the n1.

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HTC Evo 4g sounds like a winner for you. HD2 form factor+Android.
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I love my Nexus but have seriously been thinking about letting it go for a Evo. That phone seems perfect IMO except for that fact that I will greatly miss the trackball notifications

i currently have both right now and i must say i am using the nexus one more due to the fact that android as an OS has better design, navigation, ease-of-use. However, the HD2 is great for browsing, reading douments, PDF etc..

Had nexus since release, bought hd2 just to sell it a week later. missed it too much and managed to snag a free one which I sold again lol. then here I am with nexus one and another hd2 which I've gotten super cheap. I think I am going to well it for good this time. no matter what I do with it, just doesn't compare to Android. great hardware, screen, design, but win mo is a killer. even with spb mobile I can't get rid of the texting lag with keyboard, maps are users when compared to android, horrid app choice, all apps are ugly. with sense, you literally have to go to your computer to change your wallpaper since the device does not like to size it properly and they come out blurry... with custom roms, you can't just update, have to reset the device every time, meh...

My HD2 makes me feel dirty

Hello friends. I have had my hd2 for about a month and a half now and I have not gotten close to it. My last phone purchase before the hd2 was the g1. I fell for that phone in about an hour. I felt it was at that tome the best phone I had ever had and it was nice and snappy. I had it for 2 years and had no issues ever. Then the touch screen got numbed and it decided to work on and off. I was going to run out and get a new one but I decided that I should just get a newer model. I knew it was going to be htc but the hd2 rePly stuck out foe me. Huge screen Wich felt good in my bear claw hands. And it is so sexy. Hardware is top of the line. I thought I was golden foe at least another 2 years. Yea right. I can't stand this phone. The touch input is not responsive enough to let me type at the speed I feel comfortabl at. And the web browser is not even in the same leauge as the one on the g1. I feel that I got a phone that wasn't me. I feel so bad and it hurts bad. The problem is that I bought it cash on a whim when it was sold out all over for $600.I know a bit high but what can I do. I felt it was fair I figure two years of use is less than a dollar a day for top notch hardware was ok. But this phone is not working for me. I feel bad when I say. Windows mobile killed the hd2. Htc should release some android for this. It seems that windows mobile isn't really the best for me. It may be great but I just fell for android. Now I have this horrid phone and I don't even like it. I actually just got an iPhone 2g and I like it more. And I hate the iPhone but what can I say. I found someone who will take my hd2 and give me a 16gb 3gs and a samsung behold 2. Seems pretty good. I can sll the build for a couple dollars maybe 150 ish and then sll the 3gs for around 400 maybe and then get me a nexus one or maybe I will just hold on to th cash and wait for htc to release another great android phone for tmobile. And no the mytouch slide is not htc top for tmobile I hope. Maybe I should wait till end of summer for some special and then use my renew credit. Tmobile is my only choice. Common tmoble be tops in android again please. The only affordable provider that has 3 lines unlmt talk for $99. I can't leave them

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Hello friends. I have had my hd2 for about a month and a half now and I have not gotten close to it. My last phone purchase before the hd2 was the g1. I fell for that phone in about an hour. I felt it was at that tome the best phone I had ever had and it was nice and snappy. I had it for 2 years and had no issues ever. Then the touch screen got numbed and it decided to work on and off. I was going to run out and get a new one but I decided that I should just get a newer model. I knew it was going to be htc but the hd2 rePly stuck out foe me. Huge screen Wich felt good in my bear claw hands. And it is so sexy. Hardware is top of the line. I thought I was golden foe at least another 2 years. Yea right. I can't stand this phone. The touch input is not responsive enough to let me type at the speed I feel comfortabl at. And the web browser is not even in the same leauge as the one on the g1. I feel that I got a phone that wasn't me. I feel so bad and it hurts bad. The problem is that I bought it cash on a whim when it was sold out all over for $600.I know a bit high but what can I do. I felt it was fair I figure two years of use is less than a dollar a day for top notch hardware was ok. But this phone is not working for me. I feel bad when I say. Windows mobile killed the hd2. Htc should release some android for this. It seems that windows mobile isn't really the best for me. It may be great but I just fell for android. Now I have this horrid phone and I don't even like it. I actually just got an iPhone 2g and I like it more. And I hate the iPhone but what can I say. I found someone who will take my hd2 and give me a 16gb 3gs and a samsung behold 2. Seems pretty good. I can sll the build for a couple dollars maybe 150 ish and then sll the 3gs for around 400 maybe and then get me a nexus one or maybe I will just hold on to th cash and wait for htc to release another great android phone for tmobile. And no the mytouch slide is not htc top for tmobile I hope. Maybe I should wait till end of summer for some special and then use my renew credit. Tmobile is my only choice. Common tmoble be tops in android again please. The only affordable provider that has 3 lines unlmt talk for $99. I can't leave them
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Sounds like Verizon is a better choice for you phone wise, and t-mobile is your choice for coverage and pricing.
Although T-mobile has some andriod phones the other carriers have the top android/droid phones other than the nexus one. Now you have to find out what one is bigger to you and then figure a solution for the other. HTC will never give this phone anroid but it might be ported by a developer. But doesn't look like any time soon.

Its called the galaxy S. I really think its coming to tmobile just wait for it.

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Its called the galaxy S. I really think its coming to tmobile just wait for it.
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x2. if you're gonna stick with t-mobile and want to stick with a device that has premium hardware like the hd2, wait for the galaxy s to come out. 4" screen, front camera, rear camera. Super AMOLED display.
i also upgraded from a both a g1 and a mytouch to an hd2. however, i'm not on the same boat as the OP of this thread. i have grown to like win mo 6.5 more and more and have made all the necessary tweaks to make the hd2 the way i want it to run and look in terms of theme and performance.
perhaps you should try flashing a rom or find the necessary .cab files such as cookie's home tab to help you change your mind about ditching this phone.

ryan562 said:
x2. if you're gonna stick with t-mobile and want to stick with a device that has premium hardware like the hd2, wait for the galaxy s to come out. 4" screen, front camera, rear camera. Super AMOLED display.
i also upgraded from a both a g1 and a mytouch to an hd2. however, i'm not on the same boat as the OP of this thread. i have grown to like win mo 6.5 more and more and have made all the necessary tweaks to make the hd2 the way i want it to run and look in terms of theme and performance.
perhaps you should try flashing a rom or find the necessary .cab files such as cookie's home tab to help you change your mind about ditching this phone.
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Exactly. I had mixed feelings about this phone when I first got it, and felt the same way you did. I paid full price for it (because of my hatred for contracts) and felt like I had made a huge mistake and instantly wanted to buy a Nexus One so I could shelf this device. But as I got more involved with the development community and tried different ROMs and 3rd party apps, I began to love it, not only is the performance better, but it is much sexier than it was. I still plan on buying a Nexus One (fandroid ) but by no means am I going to excommunicate myself from this device.
WinMo 6.5 was like an ugly girl with a great personality. You want nothing to do with her until you get to know her
But seriously, do not give up on this phone before testing everything out with it

Thanks for the responses.
I think that i have found the main issue with my phone. I have spbshell on it and i feel restricted. I think im going to just try and make my own rom. with what suites me. I also realized that i have a phone fetish or something. In my collection i have a G1, MyTouch 3g 1.2, iPhone 2g, HTC Hero, HTC HD2, Samsung Behold 2. I have to many phones. most recent was the iPhone 2g and it is not as bad as i thought. i was thinking of getting a iPhone 4 but i cant. I need to find a way to make this hd2 work for me. I hate the battery life also. o well,i guess i could just make a small 2000mah battery pack. that would fix things.
again thanks

Seriously dude, check out some different ROMs, and try Cookie's Home Tab. CHT actually mods the stock Sense interface, which is likely to work much better/smoother, and with less restrictions. Most of the ROMs available get rid of all the bloatware, and add speed/stability to the device.
I was in the same situation as you... and was seriously considering returning my HD2 and picking up the N1 instead. However, after installing several tweak apps and flashing Dinik & Miri's new ROM, I'm VERY satisfied. Works smooth, looks great, and has a lot of the features that I wanted from Android.
It really pays to do your homework, and spend some time modding your device... it takes time and trial/error to figure out what works best for you, but I'm sure you can get your HD2 running as you hoped it would. Just spend some time scouring these forums, and you'll find lots of good info on how to get the most out of your device. It can be a bit overwhelming, as a lot of the info is scattered throughout different subforums, but I'm confident you can find what you're looking for.
Also, it would help to know what mods/tweaks you've done to your HD2 so far, so we make recommendations on what you can do to make you happy with it (I.E.- ROM version, .cabs installed, etc.)

I took the plunge and traded it, I got a great deal. 1 iPhone 3GS and a Nexus one with a cracked screen. Now i have repaired the nexus one. I am happy with my trade. The HD2 had power but i didn't like it, not very fun to use. The 3gs is great and the nexus one is also great. true smaller screen but the ui is much better on both the iphone and nexus one. I wish tmobile would have something lined up for next year that is better than the incredible. If not i see no reason to stay with them. my contracts up in 3 months and they don't really have anything they could offer me to stay. plus the prepaid unlimited all on tmo network for $60 looks nice.

Glad to hear it worked out for you. I honestly love the HD2 and sleep with it nightly. But everyones different and uses different features. How you liking being a Machead?

ericm115 said:
I took the plunge and traded it, I got a great deal. 1 iPhone 3GS and a Nexus one with a cracked screen. Now i have repaired the nexus one. I am happy with my trade. The HD2 had power but i didn't like it, not very fun to use. The 3gs is great and the nexus one is also great. true smaller screen but the ui is much better on both the iphone and nexus one. I wish tmobile would have something lined up for next year that is better than the incredible. If not i see no reason to stay with them. my contracts up in 3 months and they don't really have anything they could offer me to stay. plus the prepaid unlimited all on tmo network for $60 looks nice.
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Sprint carries the HTC EVO 4G, which is the same as an HTC HD2 except running Android, with an 8mp camera that can shoot video in 720p.
I must admit I wish I had signed for that instead, but I'm stuck for 2 years.

Evo's a great phone I just feel it came out at the wrong time. I think by Christmas it will be old news and we may see dual core's. Had it come out at the same time as the HD2 I would be liking it better.

Are there any ex Tilt2/TP2 owners in the house?

I've had a Titl2 2 since March and it's been nothing but fun. However as time went on, bigger and better things started getting made. I am highly considering the Epic and I want to know how you feel about it's overall hardware mechanics. I'm not going to ask for specifics on software since sens and android are to different.

yup i used to have a tilt2 on at&t running energy and xandroid..
when the epic was annou ced i couldnt wait its a more powerful "version" of the tilt2 with all the goodness of fully working android. slightly better battery life bigger and lighter and the screen kicks ass. i even jumped from at&t to sprint for the phone so that should say what my summation is..
if you can get it, you'll be happy. but keep in mind the tilt2 has more dev on it as it's been around longer and we're all waiting for 2.2 before the fun really gets going for roms and mods.

I owned TouchPro2 until a month ago. I had custom ROMs, most recently Energy.
Then I bought Epic4G. Played with on over WiFi for 4 weeks before activating.
Once you get used to its speed, responsiveness and general android flexibility there's no going back! So at the end of 4 weeks - good bye SERO, hello SERO premium.
Rooted/clockworkmod recovery installed, custom ROM/mixup kernel.
The good new things:
1. Android, speed, great display (albeit not so good for ebooks)
2. Tango for "facetime" chat with my brother on iPhone 7000miles away
3. Lots of free aps (ad-supported), but ads dont bother me
4. Integration with google (voice/maps/navigation etc)
5. better form factor and lighter than TP2
My grunts:
1. keyboard is not as good as TP2 (not bad, just TP2 was excellent!)
2. need to get microUSB cables/adapter
3. power button placement - phones tries to slide open every time I press it
4. delays with Froyo (should be here soon!)
5. 4G is not really helpful, I live in 4G area but don't notice much difference (except battery drain)
What I Was Afraid Of But Not Anymore
1. touch-buttons are actually easy to use
2. battery life with new rom is OK, enough for a day
3. screen is actually useable in direct sunlight
4. iphone apps still come out sooner, but android is catching up
5. there's plenty of junk in android market, but easy to rate apps/report spam

TP2 owner here. When Oct1 for SERO prem hit I picked up the epic and gave the TP2 to my daughter. I could not go back.

another tp2 owner here.. the only things i miss about the tp2 are teh community and the keyboard.. Never looking back..

I had the tilt 2, used nrgrom, jumped ship to sprint. I have had the iphone, HTC 8125, 8525, and tilt2, the Epic is the best phone I have had yet. I even got my tech buddy, who made programs for windows mobile phones, to leave at&t and his TP2, to get the Epic.
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Tp2 previous user. All i can say is that i am glad i am off that old piece of sh*t.
Epic Is awesome!!!! Android is so much better then windows mobile. After seeing wp7 i knew it was time to switch to android. WP7 such an ugly UI. Rip off of zune much?

You do realize MS makes zune and wm right?
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I had a TP2 for about a week. The phone I got had a disfunctional M button (had to press it REALLY hard), replaced it and the next phone had a disfunctional B button (same thing), replaced that one and traded it. Thats my experience with a TP2. Coming from a Moment with a capacitive touch screen and going to a TP2 with a resistive touch screen, i was just unable to keep lower quality older technology.

i had a mogul, TP1 and TP2 the only thing i will mis is the game xtract lol its a shame the mogul is still fully functional as if it was still new and the TP broke 4x (full keyboard failure) and the TP2 broke with in 6 mo (stuck in headphone mode)
im glad i picked samsung over htc lol

ex tp2 user here. switched to evo, then moment & now the epic. in recent months if I'm at a sprint store I pick up the tp2 & tinker. can't believe how when I first got that thing I actually thought it was fast lol. must of been the switch from tp1 lol. I admit that keyboard was great though. well now its the epic and when the next best thing comes out it will be that lol.

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i had a mogul, TP1 and TP2 the only thing i will mis is the game xtract lol its a shame the mogul is still fully functional as if it was still new and the TP broke 4x (full keyboard failure) and the TP2 broke with in 6 mo (stuck in headphone mode)
im glad i picked samsung over htc lol
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Oh snap, my TP2 did that after a month (not even). I fixed it, but I forgot what I did.

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Oh snap, my TP2 did that after a month (not even). I fixed it, but I forgot what I did.
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Its called throwing it away. Thats what fixed it for me :O

Great memories
Great memories using TP2, that thing was modded, bricked, flashed, what a great phone to learn from. The Epic is so much faster and i'm glad to have a physical keyboard battery life.. yeah.. so so .. Enjoy the new phone! If the epic would tilt that would have been sweetness.. to bad...

Ex TP2 user. I've had several phones since.
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I'm a new Epic owner (like many former SERO TP2 owners who jumped over to SERO Premium.) I liked my TP2 very much, but the main difference I'm noticing now with the Epic (now that I've got most things set up the way I want) is that I spend less time actually using the phone than I did my TP2. And that's not a knock. On the TP2 I was constantly feeling the need to tweak and adjust things to try to optimize the experience with 3rd party ROMs, UI changes, etc. With the Epic I just USE it like an average joe would. And it's a great experience.
I'm still holding on to my TP2 though as it makes an excellent backup phone (especially since the Android build has progressed rapidly over the last couple months.) Should I ever need it again in a pinch I'll probably be able to run Android full on off the main system memory.

sigma20xx said:
I've had a Titl2 2 since March and it's been nothing but fun. However as time went on, bigger and better things started getting made. I am highly considering the Epic and I want to know how you feel about it's overall hardware mechanics. I'm not going to ask for specifics on software since sens and android are to different.
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I had a TP2 with Sprint since last December. I was a flashaholic with energy roms for many months. I think he got the most out of it for me. I miss his thread community and spent hours tweaking, modding and flashing. Last month the back stopped fitting on right and they sent me a refurb that didn't even work out of the box. I was leaving the next day on a month long business trip and got an early upgrade to try the Epic. It is worth the money to me...even stock out of the box. It is so fast and the screen is awesome. I wasn't sure if I could break the stylus habit, but not a problem...I can hardly remember even needing it. The Epic keyboard, in my opinion, is even better than the TP2...that is saying alot! I know I type faster and make fewer mistakes. I love the spacing and the extra Android buttons. Both are/were wonderful keyboards and I still don't want a phone without a good one.
I'm really glad I switched and will not return my Epic. I'm looking forward to Froyo and evenually rooting and rom upgrades. I am sad to see so few posts for the Epic over at PPCGeeks but the community here for Epic is growing. I think that after 2.2 the developers will get going in greater numbers. I read a comment here somewhere that part of the reason is that the Epic works so well out of the box...what a concept!!! For now...for me...this is the phone!
I am muzik at PPC Geeks...splashmktg here.

Well, everyone in here seems pretty happy. I guess I'll jump on the bandwagon to after 2.2 is released. This way I can get a phone with it already installed.

I had a TP2 for about a year on Sprint. Awesome phone.
Never had any hardware problems with it, who knows how the epic will hold up. Keyboard takes some getting used to but I find myself using it less than I did on the TP2.
The epic is light years better than the TP2 though.
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Another TP2 exile. It's been my primary phone for about 18 months. I would probably still be using it except that it began have random crashes requiring me to restore it from an image. All in all it was a good phone and I enjoyed it. But after using Android for a couple weeks there's no way I'd go back to WinMo 6.

What made you choose the G2/Desire Z?

I didnt want to get the G2 at first since I was just infatuated with the vibrants screen but once I got to play with it I needed to have it!
So what made you choose the G2? And how long are you gonna stick with it?
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I just love it
My last 2 phones were a HTC Kaiser and a Touch Pro 2. With both I felt I had never would need another phone.
Well, more and more things were coming to Android only, a lot of apps (Facebook, maps, google's native things) look and work a whole lot better on android, so I thought to switch. I drooled over having 720p HD video.
I wanted to stick with a qwerty.
These all made me want a Desire Z.
...and Santa brought me one... ))

I chosed da g2 after droping my mt3G on the toilet. At first I wanted the vibrant but after reading and seen pics of the g2 it was a perfect match this phone has everythig I hoped for and more rooted about 5 minutes after getting it lol
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My last 2 phones were a HTC Kaiser and a Touch Pro 2. With both I felt I had never would need another phone.
Well, more and more things were coming to Android only, a lot of apps (Facebook, maps, google's native things) look and work a whole lot better on android, so I thought to switch. I drooled over having 720p HD video.
I wanted to stick with a qwerty.
These all made me want a Desire Z.
...and Santa brought me one... ))
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I swear, for a minute I thought your reply was my reply.
Just like you, I went form a kaiser to the TP2 and now the Desire Z. Just like you, I thought my previous phones were the mother of all inventions and I wouldnt need another phone in my lifetime . I would have upgraded in November but I thought I would just hold on to the TP2 until the middle of this year but the dreaded newton rings appeared on the TP2 last week (2nd time in 6months) so I was 'forced' to upgrade. I also must have a physical keyboard but I flirted with the Desire HD and Nexus S. The DHD was just too big and the NS didnt have a keyboard. Despite all the noise about the hinge, I bit the bullet and got the Desire Z and I thank gooness I did. Absolutely no regrets. My TP2 now feels like an early 90s phone.
Just in case anyone is interested, my TP2 with a brand new screen and absolutely no scratches + all accessories and an 8GB microSD card is up for sale @ £150.

HTC DZ
lombardo8 said:
I swear, for a minute I thought your reply was my reply.
Just like you, I went form a kaiser to the TP2 and now the Desire Z. Just like you, I thought my previous phones were the mother of all inventions and I wouldnt need another phone in my lifetime . I would have upgraded in November but I thought I would just hold on to the TP2 until the middle of this year but the dreaded newton rings appeared on the TP2 last week (2nd time in 6months) so I was 'forced' to upgrade. I also must have a physical keyboard but I flirted with the Desire HD and Nexus S. The DHD was just too big and the NS didnt have a keyboard. Despite all the noise about the hinge, I bit the bullet and got the Desire Z and I thank gooness I did. Absolutely no regrets. My TP2 now feels like an early 90s phone.
Just in case anyone is interested, my TP2 with a brand new screen and absolutely no scratches + all accessories and an 8GB microSD card is up for sale @ £150.
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I have to admit I use the qwerty keyboard less frequently on the DZ.
Reason one: it's good to type with touch input, it even support X9 in Hungarian (while the qwerty supports English only) so it completes a lot of words right.
Reason two: I donno if this is a question of getting used to it or not, but the keyboard is a lot worse than on the TP2. I wouldn't dis it, neither the hinge, cause it's not a problem either. It's just more awkward typing on it, plus special chars in hungarian work different than previously on the TP2.
I do not regret the TP2. There are soooo many advantages of the DZ and Android they make me forget the front camera, too.

It was the only decent device my carrier offered other than the SGS which suffered the all too well known corrupted SD due to samsung failure.
I was never too crazy about the keyboard, but have grown to like and use it.
I do miss the SA screen, screen dimensions, and the device dimensions, - but the usability added by sense is amazing. Plus the DZ seems to be much faster and more stable to me based purely on my own usage.

I've gone through so many phones and the g2 impressed me so much that I had to get it. And the fact that it was one of the first phone compatible with hspa.
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I'm coming from the touch pro 2. I was looking to stick with the physical keyboard and it takes a while to get to the one on the g2. I wanted a phone to have wifi calling since I do not get any service in some of my classes at college. Android apps are no iphone apps but they work. Windows mobile is highly customizable and I like being able to have the option to do so on the G2 if ever needed. I will hold on to my G2 for as long as I can or till a dual core, physical qwerty, windows phone 7 with a 4+ screen hits T-Mobile. Well a better one than the dell venue pro.
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I got the G2 because I went from a Sony Ericsson as my 1st phone, Moto Razr as my 2nd, Sidekick 3 as my 3rd, Blackberry Pearl 8120 as my 4th, and G1 as my 5th.
G1 was by far my favorite phone, with the Pearl being in 2nd. I fell in love with Android, then I learned about rooting, and that was a wrap. Went from a Haykuro 1.5, to a JesusFreke 1.5, then I learned about Cyanogen. Man, oh man, were my eyes opened by the XDA community.
From the G1, the 2nd Android phone for TMO came in the form of the myTouch 3G, and I had to have it, because I had transformed into an Android fanboy. From there, I went to an HD2, for the sole fact that I hoped that Android would be ported over to it, which thankfully, is now a reality!
I switched back and forth between the HD2 and the MT3G for a while, then I stuck with the MT3G, because I wanted the genuine Android experience. I wish I bought the N1 when it first came out, but the money wasn't there, so I had to settle.
When the G2 came knocking at TMO's doorstep and I knew about phone specs now and actually saw what the G2 had, I was very impressed, and having owned its big brother, the G1, it was fate that I had to buy it.
Yes, the G2 may have some flaws like the loose hinge and less than great camera in artificial/low light conditions, but I still love this phone and would not want to trade it for an HD7, MT4G, a Galaxy S phone, or anything else offered by TMO right now.
I love this phone and I would not change my decision of purchasing it if I had the opportunity to do it all over again.
Oh, and the fact that it is the first HSPA+ phone for T-Mobile, which there is 4G in my area also is a great perk!

simple, Cyanogen has it!

dontbes said:
I didnt want to get the G2 at first since I was just infatuated with the vibrants screen but once I got to play with it I needed to have it!
So what made you choose the G2? And how long are you gonna stick with it?
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2 dead Galaxy S Vibrants from Bell pushed me to the Desire Z. I wish I got it in the first place.
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Groboto said:
simple, Cyanogen has it!
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That was a selling point for sure!! I started with a Samsung Moment and then A Vibrant. I changed roms like twice a day trying to find "The one". It was kinda like internet dating, lol. I had to replace one of my Vibrants and while I was waiting for the replacement they had the G2 for $0 on black Monday. The rest is history, rooted and CM6. Physically its a beautiful phone imo, though it is protected and covered with an Otterbox. Only gripe is the hinge deal, but I swype 99.9% of the time. Its just a solid phone with awesome support, yeah Cyanogen has one. I'm waiting on something Tegra 2 based to hit TMO before I get another.

I had an original MyTouch 3G, it was slow as molasses on froyo, didn't have a keyboard, and didn't have a 3.5mm jack
the G2 is the only phone released in the last 6 months that fixes these problems. Adding in the 1.7GHz(!) overclock and solid cyanogenmod support made it even better

cyanogenmod .
ahah. I bought it before I knew cyanogenmod had it.
I had the G1, and loved it. Too bad i had to return it cuz ma dad was on my ass for always being on it. what do you except? its android!
So I heard the G2 was coming out and I almost shyt my pants.
its a sexy phone. i dont mind the hinges... one thing that sucks is no front facing camera... but o well.. maybe the G3 will own?

Got a G1 shortly after launch. Tmo upgrade came along not too long ago and so did the follow up phone... the G2. Physical keyboard is a must have for me.
I can't stand a touch screen keyboard.
The new network is also a nice perk.

Let's see.....After putting almost 50 windows roms on my HD2 and of course some Android builds. I realized the phone was getting boring by the day. I missed having a physical keyboard...better apps of course, faster speeds,and better battery life.
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I wanted a good phone (better than my old omnia) with a working keyboard for which i would not pay much.
I could get a motorola flipout (found it was a poor phone), an xperia x10 mini pro (it would have been good, provided the battery was not that fast empty and unremovable), or some blackberrys with small screens. I would have had to pay more than 400$ for every interesting phone with a nice screen and a keyboard.
Then, virgin mobile made a flash offer on the desire Z. I had to pay around 80$, which was nice, and a sub 40$/month service including unlimited-yet-not-that-much-unlimited internet, unlimited texts and 2hrs/month .
So i got it. Quite impressed by it actually, worth more than what i actually thought, especially now that i know debian can be installed on it
i am new to android, i had an omnia before. The improvement in feeling is huge, but i feel quite concerned about new phones. With windows phone 6.1 i could do what i wanted on it, no need to hack around to install apps that require some special hardware access or root access and so on. I did not have to install a file browser either...
I just hope phone OS designers would stop trying to limit phone usage. Anyway they currently have not succeeded, so thats fine

Simple its indestructible..
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I used to be a hard core crackberry user. My first android was the MT3G- loved it, but just couldn't get used to the touchscreen keyboard while also using a BB. (didn't care much for the iphone- my 5 year old uses it now)
When the HD2 came out, I'm glad I got it asap! The hardware was what made me want it badly.. The screen size was perfect for the onscreen kb, and it was even better when we could run android.. but I got sick of being annoyed on a daily basis. And I suffered from keyboard envy.
I was going to hold out on upgrading until Spring, as I usually did, and had been following the G2 forums since the release. Early December TMo offered me BOGO if we switched back to a contract... I couldn't refuse, and a sexy G2 arrived days later.
I love it. I was concerned with giving up screen real estate, but that quickly passed. My only issue is signal strength- I only get G where I live but forced into an unlimited 4G plan though I'm always on wifi, and the "partner service" doesn't seem to work. No faults of the G2- TMo needs to get their services straight.
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cuz it was called G2, and everyone knew it was gonna be good.

[Q] [4 July] [DISC] Is there any phone as sweet as the HD2?

Well my Hermes is getting a little old and I'm shopping for a new phone. The HD2 seems extremely awesome. I love that I could always fall back to WM6.5 if WP7 and Android don't suit me. It seems this phone is also quite common so with a little patience I should be able to find one at a price I want to pay. The only thing that I'm not crazy about it the lack of a hard keyboard. I see that there is a Toshiba K01/IS02 with a hard keyboard that also has a capacitive screen even though it shipped with WM6.5 but it seems to be a rare and undeveloped phone.
Can anyone tell me if there are any other WM6.5/WP7 phones besides the HD2?

I think no atm,

I too was not keen on no hardware keyboard but ended up getting a T-Mob HD2 because the price was right.
All I can say is typing on screen is far faster than any HTC hardware keyboard I have tried & you can use a mini hardware keyboard via BlueTooth if required.
All in all the lack of hardware keyboard was a step forward for my typing experience ...

For the criteria you are asking HD2 is the best. This is the best dual OS phone out there. And I agree with previous post that screen keyboard is way better. My prevois phone was TyTyn II but I think I like sceen keyboard more than hard keyboard. It just takes a little time to get use to typing on the screen. I am really happy with HD2 and I can not think of the better phone for now that does not cost more than 300 euro and have such features. But the choice is yours. Good luck.
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Wait a sec. No video out? What the dip?

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Wait a sec. No video out? What the dip?
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Indeed that was a big mistake from HTC ... The flagship model at the time with no video out ! between that & the selected battery capacity some HTC designers & market researchers should of been shot ...

Well I'm not sure about w7 but the HTC touch pro 2 can run Android & w6.5..(a bit laggy though & very outdated) & also has tv out I believe. It's been sometime since I've owed it so I can't remember. I text (up 2) 4000 texts each month & Im coming from the mytouch slide which has a keyboard....I have 2 say I really dont miss it. I will admit it took me a good few days b4 I could text as fast as any of my old phones that had a keyboard.
Personally I would suggest to buy a phone that has good development that way you won't be left in the dark. Going from the tp2 to the mytouch was horrible bc I had a phone that was well developed & then went 2 a phone that was slim pickins 2 mod it.
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The Desire HD is sort of like an upgraded HD2. I hear that a lot of devs are also working on it.

I was just like the OP, really excited that I could fall back on to WM6.5 if I didn't like Android or WP7. Then I moved to Android and never looked back.
I do admit the HD2 is a beastly device, I can't think of any other device that is nearly as hackable... the HD2 runs WM6.5, WP7 and Android all basically as if those were all natively supported.
Still though, it will soon be 2 whole years since the HD2 was announced. I personally had one for 18 months before buying a Galaxy SII. The HD2 looks pretty modern on paper... 4.3" screen, Snapdragon processor... but next to a truly modern phone like the GSII the HD2 looks clearly dated.
I put WP7 on the HD2 but it's not really my cup of tea. I also tried going back to WM6.5 but after a year with Android I found it laughably slow and clunky. So I may end up selling the HD2, though it would be by far the hardest device I've ever parted with.
I don't really know what to tell the OP. The HD2 is a hell of a phone and can run the newest versions of WP7, but when you set it next to a newer, official WP7 device you will see the differences. If you don't already own an HD2 I'd advise getting a WP7 phone, maybe one with a better screen than the HD2 has got... unless you really have a need to still be running WinMo 6.5.

wildfire dipped in honey+chocolate sauce is sweet !!

Love the hd2. Got it for it's support of tzone grandfathered plans on 3g. Wm6.5 is a joke. I could not believe how amazing the phone was after removing that dead weight of an os.
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I am too trying to upgrade my HD2. I am thinking of Nexus one. It seems similar in many ways to HD2, but will have a better battery life. My plan is to: sell HD2 + $50 = Brand new Nexus one.
I was also thinking of Moto Defy...

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I am too trying to upgrade my HD2. I am thinking of Nexus one. It seems similar in many ways to HD2, but will have a better battery life. My plan is to: sell HD2 + $50 = Brand new Nexus one.
I was also thinking of Moto Defy...
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I'd recommend looking at a Nexus S... a bit plastic, but the Nexus One is long in the tooth now, in terms of hardware.

Wow thanks for all the input today, Guys! I discovered a couple more things today that are going to affect my phone purchase. The first thing is that the T-Mobile branded HD2 does not support the 850 band and I am an AT&T user so not only would I not get 3G on it, but AT&T generally sends me angry emails when I use like a gig of data while "roaming" on T-Mobile's towers.
I doubt I'm going to be able to get an HD2 that does HSDPA850 at a bargain price so I checked out my upgrade options through AT&T. I am considering the following phones which I can get practically free, and here's my thoughts on each from most to least likely to be my next phone.
Samsung Focus - I've played with this phone at the store and it has the nicest looking screen by far of the three AT&T branded WP7 phones. Looks nice (except no video out). Everyone posting ITT has given me some faith in on-capacitive-screen keyboards and I must have had to work on my Hermes a million times because of the slide mechanism damaging, or more often just twisting the ribbon cable. I guess the only doubt that I have in my heart about this phone is that it's a WP7 only phone and I don't believe in WP7 largely because it's not backwards compatible with any of my WM6.5 apps. It boggles my mind that someone asked why I would want WM compatibility after I have spent nine years using it.
HTC Inspire - Seems like a pretty solid Android phone, and one of only two Android phones in the price range I want to pay (although still $50 more than the Focus). Video out only through DLNA
iPhone 3g 8gb - I think we all know everything we need to know about this animal. It's solid, spare parts are plentiful, and it's extensively developed. I just hate Apple. I don't want to have to install iTunes on my computer and so forth. Still may be my choice purely for resale value.
LG Quantum - Ditto most of the Samsung Focus opinion. Noticeably poorer screen (smaller and backlit LCD vs OLED), but does have a hardware keyboard and is the form factor I am accustomed to from the last six years with Wizard and Hermes. I guess Focus or HD2 would just feel like Wallaby in my pocket though.
Samsung Solstice II - Basically what the Quantum is to the Focus, the Solstice is to the Inspire in the Android arena. Smaller, poorer screen in exchange for a slide out keyboard. DLNA compatible though.
Palm Pre Plus and Palm Pixi - Seem like decent phones but a little too cute for me. Plus I have even greater misgivings about Palm's WebOS than I do about WP7.
Sony Ericcson Vivaz - I carried an Ngage for a while switching back and forth with Wallaby. There seemed to be a lot of development for Symbian back then and it was stable. Probably not the thing to discuss on this forum though..
Anyway, hopefully I'm not derailing my own thread too much or getting it off the topic of the section I posted it in but I appreciate all the replies and would love to hear what everyone thinks. Deciding which phone to get can be a real brain drain! And what's up with hardly anything having video out? My friend's Evo has a freakin' HDMI port right on it!