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My HD2 makes me feel dirty

Hello friends. I have had my hd2 for about a month and a half now and I have not gotten close to it. My last phone purchase before the hd2 was the g1. I fell for that phone in about an hour. I felt it was at that tome the best phone I had ever had and it was nice and snappy. I had it for 2 years and had no issues ever. Then the touch screen got numbed and it decided to work on and off. I was going to run out and get a new one but I decided that I should just get a newer model. I knew it was going to be htc but the hd2 rePly stuck out foe me. Huge screen Wich felt good in my bear claw hands. And it is so sexy. Hardware is top of the line. I thought I was golden foe at least another 2 years. Yea right. I can't stand this phone. The touch input is not responsive enough to let me type at the speed I feel comfortabl at. And the web browser is not even in the same leauge as the one on the g1. I feel that I got a phone that wasn't me. I feel so bad and it hurts bad. The problem is that I bought it cash on a whim when it was sold out all over for $600.I know a bit high but what can I do. I felt it was fair I figure two years of use is less than a dollar a day for top notch hardware was ok. But this phone is not working for me. I feel bad when I say. Windows mobile killed the hd2. Htc should release some android for this. It seems that windows mobile isn't really the best for me. It may be great but I just fell for android. Now I have this horrid phone and I don't even like it. I actually just got an iPhone 2g and I like it more. And I hate the iPhone but what can I say. I found someone who will take my hd2 and give me a 16gb 3gs and a samsung behold 2. Seems pretty good. I can sll the build for a couple dollars maybe 150 ish and then sll the 3gs for around 400 maybe and then get me a nexus one or maybe I will just hold on to th cash and wait for htc to release another great android phone for tmobile. And no the mytouch slide is not htc top for tmobile I hope. Maybe I should wait till end of summer for some special and then use my renew credit. Tmobile is my only choice. Common tmoble be tops in android again please. The only affordable provider that has 3 lines unlmt talk for $99. I can't leave them

ericm115 said:
Hello friends. I have had my hd2 for about a month and a half now and I have not gotten close to it. My last phone purchase before the hd2 was the g1. I fell for that phone in about an hour. I felt it was at that tome the best phone I had ever had and it was nice and snappy. I had it for 2 years and had no issues ever. Then the touch screen got numbed and it decided to work on and off. I was going to run out and get a new one but I decided that I should just get a newer model. I knew it was going to be htc but the hd2 rePly stuck out foe me. Huge screen Wich felt good in my bear claw hands. And it is so sexy. Hardware is top of the line. I thought I was golden foe at least another 2 years. Yea right. I can't stand this phone. The touch input is not responsive enough to let me type at the speed I feel comfortabl at. And the web browser is not even in the same leauge as the one on the g1. I feel that I got a phone that wasn't me. I feel so bad and it hurts bad. The problem is that I bought it cash on a whim when it was sold out all over for $600.I know a bit high but what can I do. I felt it was fair I figure two years of use is less than a dollar a day for top notch hardware was ok. But this phone is not working for me. I feel bad when I say. Windows mobile killed the hd2. Htc should release some android for this. It seems that windows mobile isn't really the best for me. It may be great but I just fell for android. Now I have this horrid phone and I don't even like it. I actually just got an iPhone 2g and I like it more. And I hate the iPhone but what can I say. I found someone who will take my hd2 and give me a 16gb 3gs and a samsung behold 2. Seems pretty good. I can sll the build for a couple dollars maybe 150 ish and then sll the 3gs for around 400 maybe and then get me a nexus one or maybe I will just hold on to th cash and wait for htc to release another great android phone for tmobile. And no the mytouch slide is not htc top for tmobile I hope. Maybe I should wait till end of summer for some special and then use my renew credit. Tmobile is my only choice. Common tmoble be tops in android again please. The only affordable provider that has 3 lines unlmt talk for $99. I can't leave them
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Sounds like Verizon is a better choice for you phone wise, and t-mobile is your choice for coverage and pricing.
Although T-mobile has some andriod phones the other carriers have the top android/droid phones other than the nexus one. Now you have to find out what one is bigger to you and then figure a solution for the other. HTC will never give this phone anroid but it might be ported by a developer. But doesn't look like any time soon.

Its called the galaxy S. I really think its coming to tmobile just wait for it.

bwest411 said:
Its called the galaxy S. I really think its coming to tmobile just wait for it.
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x2. if you're gonna stick with t-mobile and want to stick with a device that has premium hardware like the hd2, wait for the galaxy s to come out. 4" screen, front camera, rear camera. Super AMOLED display.
i also upgraded from a both a g1 and a mytouch to an hd2. however, i'm not on the same boat as the OP of this thread. i have grown to like win mo 6.5 more and more and have made all the necessary tweaks to make the hd2 the way i want it to run and look in terms of theme and performance.
perhaps you should try flashing a rom or find the necessary .cab files such as cookie's home tab to help you change your mind about ditching this phone.

ryan562 said:
x2. if you're gonna stick with t-mobile and want to stick with a device that has premium hardware like the hd2, wait for the galaxy s to come out. 4" screen, front camera, rear camera. Super AMOLED display.
i also upgraded from a both a g1 and a mytouch to an hd2. however, i'm not on the same boat as the OP of this thread. i have grown to like win mo 6.5 more and more and have made all the necessary tweaks to make the hd2 the way i want it to run and look in terms of theme and performance.
perhaps you should try flashing a rom or find the necessary .cab files such as cookie's home tab to help you change your mind about ditching this phone.
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Exactly. I had mixed feelings about this phone when I first got it, and felt the same way you did. I paid full price for it (because of my hatred for contracts) and felt like I had made a huge mistake and instantly wanted to buy a Nexus One so I could shelf this device. But as I got more involved with the development community and tried different ROMs and 3rd party apps, I began to love it, not only is the performance better, but it is much sexier than it was. I still plan on buying a Nexus One (fandroid ) but by no means am I going to excommunicate myself from this device.
WinMo 6.5 was like an ugly girl with a great personality. You want nothing to do with her until you get to know her
But seriously, do not give up on this phone before testing everything out with it

Thanks for the responses.
I think that i have found the main issue with my phone. I have spbshell on it and i feel restricted. I think im going to just try and make my own rom. with what suites me. I also realized that i have a phone fetish or something. In my collection i have a G1, MyTouch 3g 1.2, iPhone 2g, HTC Hero, HTC HD2, Samsung Behold 2. I have to many phones. most recent was the iPhone 2g and it is not as bad as i thought. i was thinking of getting a iPhone 4 but i cant. I need to find a way to make this hd2 work for me. I hate the battery life also. o well,i guess i could just make a small 2000mah battery pack. that would fix things.
again thanks

Seriously dude, check out some different ROMs, and try Cookie's Home Tab. CHT actually mods the stock Sense interface, which is likely to work much better/smoother, and with less restrictions. Most of the ROMs available get rid of all the bloatware, and add speed/stability to the device.
I was in the same situation as you... and was seriously considering returning my HD2 and picking up the N1 instead. However, after installing several tweak apps and flashing Dinik & Miri's new ROM, I'm VERY satisfied. Works smooth, looks great, and has a lot of the features that I wanted from Android.
It really pays to do your homework, and spend some time modding your device... it takes time and trial/error to figure out what works best for you, but I'm sure you can get your HD2 running as you hoped it would. Just spend some time scouring these forums, and you'll find lots of good info on how to get the most out of your device. It can be a bit overwhelming, as a lot of the info is scattered throughout different subforums, but I'm confident you can find what you're looking for.
Also, it would help to know what mods/tweaks you've done to your HD2 so far, so we make recommendations on what you can do to make you happy with it (I.E.- ROM version, .cabs installed, etc.)

I took the plunge and traded it, I got a great deal. 1 iPhone 3GS and a Nexus one with a cracked screen. Now i have repaired the nexus one. I am happy with my trade. The HD2 had power but i didn't like it, not very fun to use. The 3gs is great and the nexus one is also great. true smaller screen but the ui is much better on both the iphone and nexus one. I wish tmobile would have something lined up for next year that is better than the incredible. If not i see no reason to stay with them. my contracts up in 3 months and they don't really have anything they could offer me to stay. plus the prepaid unlimited all on tmo network for $60 looks nice.

Glad to hear it worked out for you. I honestly love the HD2 and sleep with it nightly. But everyones different and uses different features. How you liking being a Machead?

ericm115 said:
I took the plunge and traded it, I got a great deal. 1 iPhone 3GS and a Nexus one with a cracked screen. Now i have repaired the nexus one. I am happy with my trade. The HD2 had power but i didn't like it, not very fun to use. The 3gs is great and the nexus one is also great. true smaller screen but the ui is much better on both the iphone and nexus one. I wish tmobile would have something lined up for next year that is better than the incredible. If not i see no reason to stay with them. my contracts up in 3 months and they don't really have anything they could offer me to stay. plus the prepaid unlimited all on tmo network for $60 looks nice.
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Sprint carries the HTC EVO 4G, which is the same as an HTC HD2 except running Android, with an 8mp camera that can shoot video in 720p.
I must admit I wish I had signed for that instead, but I'm stuck for 2 years.

Evo's a great phone I just feel it came out at the wrong time. I think by Christmas it will be old news and we may see dual core's. Had it come out at the same time as the HD2 I would be liking it better.

Use upgrade on Aria or Tilt2?

Captivate is too expensive. Is the Aria a faster device than the Tilt2? Is Windows Mobile 6.5 in it's twilight and is it time to move to Android? I'm just concerned with the Aria's small size.

Just going to put my two cents in . I came from an iphone that presented me problems for the 7 months I had it. I tried the Tilt2 first since I originally came from an old Moto Q, and missed WinMo. My best advice is not to waste your time. Yes the screen is a little bigger, but the phone in general is big, and somewhat bulky in my opinion. I have no doubt that with a lot of tweaking it could have benn and could be a good device, I just think going with an Android device is the way to go. I was somewhat leary about the size of the Aria since I was used to the Iphone now, but let me tell you that you really don't notice it. The Aria uses its real estate to its fullest. I have very big hands, and have no problem at all. All touch screen phones will have missed taps every now and then.
So in my opinion I would definitely use my upgrade for an Aria. You won;t be disappointed.

Strongly agree. Aria will not disappoint. Tilt2 may sorely disappoint.
With android you can keep your customization and freedom to mess around with things and still retain the sleek speedy friendly GUI necessary for a wonderful phone/mobile device experience.
You will like the Aria

coming from the Tilt2 i can say it WILL sorely disappoint. Winmo is such a buggy and laggy OS. even slapping a custom ROM to won't make up for it. trust me..i went through 3 different ROMs, although great, none of them helped with the buggy issue. many of times i wanted to chuck my Tilt 2 out the window. the lastest HTC update for it caused the SMS app to be incredibly buggy and laggy.
go with the Aria..you won't be disappointed.

asiancuta said:
coming from the Tilt2 i can say it WILL sorely disappoint. Winmo is such a buggy and laggy OS. even slapping a custom ROM to won't make up for it. trust me..i went through 3 different ROMs, although great, none of them helped with the buggy issue. many of times i wanted to chuck my Tilt 2 out the window. the lastest HTC update for it caused the SMS app to be incredibly buggy and laggy.
go with the Aria..you won't be disappointed.
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I agree with this sentiment. My younger brother got a Tilt2 and I installed custom ROMs on it. Although it made it slightly better, it still pretty much sucked.
Only thing you might miss out on is the hw kb. Once you install Swype you won't miss it too much though really. I came from an HTC Touch Pro.
Get the Aria!

Droid Does.

Don't waste your time with a windows mobile phone that will be outdated in a few months. That phone is a good phone but the cost of it on ATT vs t-mobile, sprint and Verizon is ridiculous. Also no 3.5 headphone jack so you will have to use that dumb but expensive to replace break out box on ATT version. Not to mention if your call log an saved texts messages get too long the phone will slow down until you clear them out. Then theres the stylus issue where you cannot dig into the menu more than 4 screens without whipping out the stylus. Again great hardware on Verizon and sprint but horrible software.
Sent from my HTC Aria using XDA app.

Thundervore said:
Don't waste your time with a windows mobile phone that will be outdated in a few months. That phone is a good phone but the cost of it on ATT vs t-mobile, sprint and Verizon is ridiculous. Also no 3.5 headphone jack so you will have to use that dumb but expensive to replace break out box on ATT version. Not to mention if your call log an saved texts messages get too long the phone will slow down until you clear them out. Then theres the stylus issue where you cannot dig into the menu more than 4 screens without whipping out the stylus. Again great hardware on Verizon and sprint but horrible software.
Sent from my HTC Aria using XDA app.
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o yeah! the touchscreen is a scratch magnet and it's sensitivity...even if you hack it to it's highest in the registry..is still ****ty compared to the quick responsiveness of Aria's. and having to use a stylus for some of the windows onscreen buttons and menu options..RIDICULOUS.
trust us..you'll save yourself a headache and a half.
and just like ALL microsoft/windows products..it slugs down to a crawl after a week of use.

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Captivate is too expensive. Is the Aria a faster device than the Tilt2? Is Windows Mobile 6.5 in it's twilight and is it time to move to Android? I'm just concerned with the Aria's small size.
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Upgrade to the Aria as you see from my signature b4 I got my Aria I had a tilt 2 and trust me the Aria is 100x better
Blackbery Curve 8330>Blackberry Pearl Flip>HTC FUZE>HTC Tilt 2>HTC Aria

asiancuta said:
coming from the Tilt2 i can say it WILL sorely disappoin........many of times i wanted to chuck my Tilt 2 out the window........go with the Aria..you won't be disappointed.
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Lmao threw mine out my second story window there minute I got my Aria Lol
Blackbery Curve 8330>Blackberry Pearl Flip>HTC FUZE>HTC Tilt 2>HTC Aria

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Blackbery Curve 8330>Blackberry Pearl Flip>HTC FUZE>HTC Tilt 2>HTC Aria
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Your sig makes it look like the 8330 is greater than all other phones.

Yeah man the aria owns the tilt 2. I have a tilt 2 and even with all the roms I have run it just blows. heck my fuze was better, and that is saying something.
The aria out of the box is super fast,responsive and easy to use. I am not an aria fanboy, I dont think its the best phone around. I would look at the samsung captivate or the aria if I were you.

use it on the aria. using it on the tilt would be a poor choice.

[Q] What to buy after a G1 ?

So I bricked my G1 yesterday ( bad bad me )
Maybe it's time for a new phone, but I can't find a good alternative so far
If I can't I'll just buy another old one
The things I liked about the G1 ( beside android ofcourse )
1- Keyboard
Keyboard, I do alot of typing and remote shell connection, so a touch screen keyboard doesn't do it for me
The G1 keyboard was really ideal for this
2- Availability of Roms
3- GPS that would work even without network connection , not assisted gps
4- Compass
Things I didn't like but was surviving with
1- Speeeeeed
2- Memory size
3- Camera and Flash
Any suggestions on what phone to get after a good old G1 ?
My touch slide seems like a good alternative,
Has anyone tried it, any feedback ?
Any other suggestions ?

How about the G2? It seems like a fitting successor. The design is not so grand in my opinion, but it should be a top of the line handset. I am a keyboard only type of guy. I am in love with the Epic 4g styling. I like the Touch Pro 2 in terms of design. However the iffy state of Android on the TP2 is a put-off. Stay tuned for the G2. It's going to be a big phone in terms of technology and T-Mobiles hop into HSPA.
http://www.engadget.com/tag/g2/
Or if you want a G1, some fella started a thread in this forum selling his.

I love the G1 & just recently stopped using one, tmobs phone selection as far as to android devices is pretty mediocre in comparison to others, so when time came I dumped then & got an evo... I was a big stickler on the keyboard as well, but an onscreen keyboard on a 4.3 screen isn't so bad, but I do miss the feel of an actual keyboard, you kinda get to know it by touch. But gps, compass all that stuff is pretty much standard android, check out the epic if your looking to jump I think that's qwerty & should be a sweet phone & as far as roms, pretty much if they have rooted the device your gonna find a slew of roms to follow...but if your sticking with tmob then I would just browse there devices forums here to see which seem to have the most support, after having a G1 forever, I had to go get me a suped (?) Up android phone and tmob didn't cut it, I think that samsung phone is there only 1g phone & i don't believe that has a keyboard though... At any rate good luck, heh, if you stick with anything android after the G1 you can't really go wrong anyway.
Sent from my phone.

funkeee
Yeah, G2 looks very interesting, but it's not out yet, and frankly I'm not the 'latest and greatest' type, I prefer to wait untill a new product gets in the market for a few month and stabilizes in terms of price and performance
maxomus
Thanks for the epic tip, will look into it

hhmm, found out the Epic is not out yet as well, looks very interesting though

You'd be broke if you were always getting that latest and greatest.
But the G2 -- IMHO and I am a devout TMobile customer, Did the whole Sidekick line (moved to Android/G1 like 4 weeks before we found out TMobile was not working on a new Sidekick and 4 months before they announced the Sidekick was dead!) TMo knows has secured its immaculate position in Android history as the first carrier on Android. I recall analysts predicting Tmo would miserably fail if not go bankrupt/buyout with the Android platform. How wrong they were!
The HTC Dream is the first phone ever on Android. Its successor, the HTC Vision is quite fitting ---- you cannot really have a Vision without first having a Dream.... (actually its impossible to visualize something without first provoking a dream to correspond to said vision) TMO's pathetic compatitors, Verizon/Sprint and even ATT (yes even ATT!) have had glory days this year, but TMO is about to re-emerge with the next GREAT phone --- the HTC Vision/G2.
G2 probably will never end up being the third Android Developer Phone because the Nexus One probably will still be able to matriculate anything the G2 does.... but what the N1 cannot do, that the G2 may be able to do is dual core processor!!! Ive never ran WinMo before, (spend too much time on Windows anyway) but if the G2 is in fact capable, it will be fun to pwn Ballmer)
In short --- and with the big picture in mind, and the fact that the G2 is the first HDSPA phone which will also be a World Phone and that it has a keyboard adds up to something simple -- the G2 is going to be the BOMB!!!
What is really on my mind that I do not understand is... Danger's Sidekick.... which is now proprietary Microsoft, that was created by Andy Rubin (VP Engineering Android) and HTC are working on... something freaky... the rebirth of the SideDroid. A microsoft phone which can possibly intra-dual-core (both boots runnning simultaneously and in tandem, if not comprehensively and intermingly.... do we do Bing orr do we do Google? or Bing? Google?
Bring it.

androidcues
I agree, G2 will probably be a big hit
but I need a phone now
I think I might just settle for another used G1 for a few months untill G2, Epic are out there in a good price point
wanna send me one of the several one's you have as a birthday gift

It cool they are coming with the G2...I hope it has an 1GHZ Processor.
But if mobile carrier is not a prefernce, the Droid is a good smartphone/w a physical keyboard. The reason I won't get one b/c I don't particularly care for Verizon and I like GSM phones.
Sent from my T-Mobile G1 using XDA App

I loved the G1 because of its clean and simple design.
Do not like the look of the G2 at all.
The Motorola droid x is the best looking device out there at the moment, although apparently the packaged software is dire and motorola have added preventative measures to stop people flashing non-motorola-approved roms.
As a result I would be looking at the Nexus one if i had to choose today. Its restriction free, will have barely no carrier 'fluff' integrated into the rom, and will be supported for a long time.

Wait....Isn't G2 the Hero? I'm confused. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPkeXZbaw3Q&feature=related
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Never mind. I found Its nickname "Vision"

I agree with most of what you said. I got a text from T-Mobile this morning saying the G2 was coming. So I get on the net to check out their own website, it wasn't working. So I search the net to find out anything about it and doesn't appear to be much better. They've increased the megapixels on the camera but only to a 5 when a number of phone have an 8. Also disappointed that there's no flash. Impressed that the screen will be bigger and I'm okay to part with the keyboard as long as the on-screen keyboard is accurate. I've loved my G1 but have recently become very disappointed with the number of apps I'm UNable to download because I run out of memory. If that issue is fixed on the G2 I'll be happy. I've been contemplated ridding myself of T-Mobile only because of the lack of great phones. I have no complaint with service or customer service but would like to see some better phones. I was all about getting and HD2 until I realized it was not carrying the android market. I would like to see more from T-Mobile.

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I agree with most of what you said. I got a text from T-Mobile this morning saying the G2 was coming. So I get on the net to check out their own website, it wasn't working. So I search the net to find out anything about it and doesn't appear to be much better. They've increased the megapixels on the camera but only to a 5 when a number of phone have an 8. Also disappointed that there's no flash. Impressed that the screen will be bigger and I'm okay to part with the keyboard as long as the on-screen keyboard is accurate. I've loved my G1 but have recently become very disappointed with the number of apps I'm UNable to download because I run out of memory. If that issue is fixed on the G2 I'll be happy. I've been contemplated ridding myself of T-Mobile only because of the lack of great phones. I have no complaint with service or customer service but would like to see some better phones. I was all about getting and HD2 until I realized it was not carrying the android market. I would like to see more from T-Mobile.
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Try the vibrant or the mytouch slide. I'm using the vibrant And its the bomb!
Sent from my SGH-T959 using XDA App

It's nice having a truly capable phone after using a g1 for so long aye...
Sent from my phone.

Look, I recently brought a Slide...but im now selling it on ebay and ill save that money for a G2...Ill be goning back to my G1 for now while I wait for the G2 or maybe Mytouch HD to come out. Which ever one comes out first.And im not selling the slide cause its bad or anything, just want something that will last 2yrs. Dont get me wrong the phone is incredible, everything opens so quickly and smoothly all the time. Battery life is good for me too,and i love the design...but i want a phone that will lack support, which i feel this will have too.

If u like the slide out keyboard I would wait for the g2 nice screen size and specs
Sent from my Nexus One using XDA App

Personally, I'll be moving to Sprint and getting the Epic 4G. It's available on Amazon for $200 right now, and that price is sure to fall.

[Q] So I have to decide by Monday

Knowing what you know now about the Epic....
My upgrade time is Monday and I need to replace my old Touch Pro (can you imagine I am still using it). I would like the Epic becuase of the keyboard, and the hardware does look more impressive. However the EVO fanboys are a bit much and you cannot get a good review of Epic from them.
So I am asking you all what do you think... Should I take the Epic and be happy? I have to extend my contract 2 years and I want to be happy with my decision. The angst here over GPS and Froyo has me thinking it might be safer to go to Evo w/o the keyboard... even though I can't stand the attitutudes of the Evo users.
Let me know what you think. Any comments I would appreciate.

For a good unbiased review see engadget. They did a thorough workup of the epic. Also I reccomend using the search function, there are multiple threads just like this and should answer ur questions.
Sent from my Epic 4G

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For a good unbiased review see engadget. They did a thorough workup of the epic. Also I reccomend using the search function, there are multiple threads just like this and should answer ur questions.
Sent from my Epic 4G
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I've read COUNTLESS posts. I am just looking for something a bit updated. It seems things change as the wind blows.

Well the ppl on the froyo leak say gps is fixed so if that and froyo are ur only 2 probs with epic, they will be solved soon with the ota (the leak is kinda buggy) which hopefully will come in the next few weeks.
Sent from my Epic 4G

I like them both. The keyboard sold the epic to me, along with the display.
I love my Epic. I play a lot of games too, so the choice was obvious to me.
Sent from my bathroom, with toilet paper.

I'm upgrading on thursday. I finally decided upon the epic because of the hardware keyboard, the awesome screen and the fact that I don't like sense. I went into the sprint store to get a feel for them. That definitely helped me. There have been a few moments here and there where I think "man, maybe I should get the evo." Especially after seeing how large the user community is. But I always come back to the epic. P.s. If you're the primary line then you should be eligible for yearly upgrades with the everything data plan. So you're only stuck with this phone for a year. Or give it thirty days ad switch to the evo if you're not satisfied.

I just got my epic and love it.
The only other phone I think I would consider is the G2 by T-mobile.
I wish we had froyo already but it should be out in a few weeks.
The epic's display is awesome.

keekah said:
I'm upgrading on thursday. I finally decided upon the epic because of the hardware keyboard, the awesome screen and the fact that I don't like sense. I went into the sprint store to get a feel for them. That definitely helped me. There have been a few moments here and there where I think "man, maybe I should get the evo." Especially after seeing how large the user community is. But I always come back to the epic. P.s. If you're the primary line then you should be eligible for yearly upgrades with the everything data plan. So you're only stuck with this phone for a year. Or give it thirty days ad switch to the evo if you're not satisfied.
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Same here. I originally wanted Evo (didn't we all)... then I investigated Epic and found out its a whole lot more than just a keyboard for $50. The added hardware (processor, display, gpu, etc, etc, etc) make me think its plumb silly to buy an Evo... but man those Evo owners are very loud. No one is saying their phone is bad... obviously its great, but boy do they like to cut down the Epic.
In regards to primary line stuff... its currently set to my wife's line. She is on blackberry, but I will probably upgrade her to an Epic later this year so that we are on the same phone (unless a dual core 3.0 phone comes out... then I get it and she gets the Epic ).

I just jumped from an Evo to the Epic and this is my honest advice. If you are here for roms go with the Evo by far. The support for the Evo on this site and the lack there of for the Epic is like night and day.
If you don't plan on Rooting your phone and wanting everything stock go with the Epic. I don't see how anyone can argue differently.

imwillzillla said:
I just jumped from an Evo to the Epic and this is my honest advice. If you are here for roms go with the Evo by far. The support for the Evo on this site and the lack there of for the Epic is like night and day.
If you don't plan on Rooting your phone and wanting everything stock go with the Epic. I don't see how anyone can argue differently.
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Thanks. Good advice. I like that there is a support community for Evo... but I would only root/flash if I really had to. I am not a power user... couldn't care less about overclocking (at least for now - a year from now who knows).. that being said my Touch Pro is currently unlocked/flashed to MightyROM, so it's not out of the question. I certainly will not be planning to root/flash anytime before official Froyo is released on Epic.

Epic obviously doesn't have same dev community as evo, but we do have a good growing dev community. We have 4 or 5 solid roms out right now and even if that number doesn't grow I'm happy, its about quality not quantity.
Sent from my Epic 4G

skywalkr2, I worked at Sprint for over 8 years (great place to work, left for an amazing opportunity elsewhere) and as a Pre owner, I was RABIDLY anticipating a new device this year to replace my Pre (greatest software on the market, worst hardware). I'm at work now and took a short break to look at my phone and happened to see this thread in the XDA app. As such, I don't have time at this moment to give my full opinion, but I can tell you that NOBODY did more research on this exact question than I did... and I ended up choosing the EVO AFTER I talked my own father into getting an Epic. I'll post the full list of reasons tonight, I just wanted to get in my two cents since obviously everyone in this forum is likely to tell you the Epic is the best. I was afraid you might see an overwhelming number of people telling you to grab an Epic and then you'd stop checking this thread.
I suggest you at least listen to my reasoning before jumping ship.

ravizzle said:
Well the ppl on the froyo leak say gps is fixed so if that and froyo are ur only 2 probs with epic, they will be solved soon with the ota (the leak is kinda buggy) which hopefully will come in the next few weeks.
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Not so fast. The reports I have seen about the GPS are mixed. For example, see this.
It does sound like one of the GPS bugs -- the bogus estimated accuracy of 30.0 meters that we see now on the Epic-- is fixed in the beta release. But to test the most serious bug -- the failure to achieve satellite lock over time because of a time-sensitive cache problem -- it will take more time and effort than these early anecdotal reports can boast. So far I have not seen any Froyo-release beta tester who seems to know how to test the GPS rigorously, and I am not risking my own phone to flash this leaked ROM.
So the overall status of the GPS is unknown, as far as I'm concerned.

WrlsFanatic said:
I was afraid you might see an overwhelming number of people telling you to grab an Epic and then you'd stop checking this thread.
I suggest you at least listen to my reasoning before jumping ship.
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Great. I will definetely listen. It's exactly why I posted over here.

Dear OP,
If I were in your shoe, I'd wait at least till Epic gets Froyo update. Then you can make apples to apples comparison between Epic and EVO (assuming Evo doesn't get 2.3 update).
Or better yet, if you are a bit more patient, wait till january, when HTC Knight (Speedy?) becomes available. If Knights come with 2.2, it's more likely to get updated to 2.3 than current EVO or EPIC. The general consensus here is that neither EVO or Epic will officially get updated to Gingerbread. If you don't want to be stock with TP till January, get a refurb HTC Hero from ebay for about $100.

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Dear OP,
If I were in your shoe, I'd wait at least till Epic gets Froyo update. Then you can make apples to apples comparison between Epic and EVO (assuming Evo doesn't get 2.3 update).
Or better yet, if you are a bit more patient, wait till january, when HTC Knight (Speedy?) becomes available. If Knights come with 2.2, it's more likely to get updated to 2.3 than current EVO or EPIC. The general consensus here is that neither EVO or Epic will officially get updated to Gingerbread.
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Isn't the Knight 3g only?

Just upgraded from my trusty HTC Hero, about an hour ago. I have a lot to get used to, touch wiz is a lot different than sence. Definitely faster an nicer. Next thing to do is root and get rid out the bloat!

fczeuner said:
Just upgraded from my trusty HTC Hero, about an hour ago. I have a lot to get used to, touch wiz is a lot different than sence. Definitely faster an nicer. Next thing to do is root and get rid out the bloat!
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Get launcher po. Its like sense on steroids, and the tw notification bar with toggles is so awesome. I came from hero too.
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I might have some perspective on this question. I had a Touch Pro 2 prior to my Epic. I thought the TP2 was a great phone. Now I don't know how I ever managed with it. So point one is, EITHER the Epic or the Evo will seem like a HUGE step up.
One of the other phones on our plan is an Evo, so I've had a fair chance to experience that phone and my Epic.
I would give both very high marks, and I think that the recent rating (can't remember from what publication) that gave them number one and number two of all phones was correct.
I waited for the Epic because I was used to the keyboard on the TP2, and thought it was very necessary. However, Once I got the Epic, with Swype, I find I almost never use the keyboard. It's still handy once in a while, but now I could live without it, as long as I have Swype.
For a short while we were successful in getting Swype to work on the Evo. When it did, the Evo really would have worked for me as well as the Epic. Alas, it has not proven possible to get the program to work reliably on there.
So oddly, the phone with the keyboard doesn't really need it because it has Swype, and the phone without a keyboard doesn't have Swype, and can't seem to have it.
That comes down to the sole "real" issue for me. Both have been nearly trouble free, and Android just annihilates Windows Mobile.
Radio Shack now has the Epic for $220.00, and the Evo for $150.00. When I bought the difference was $50.00, and then they lowered it within the first 30 days, so my total difference was only $20.00. For $20.00 more, I'd say take the Epic for sure. For $70.00 more, I'd say the scale tips in favor of the Evo.
Again, they're both just great phones. I don't think you can go "wrong" with either.
Harris

So, I have had both phones Epic & Evo. Here is my opinion about both.
Evo had a bigger screen and kickstand that I love and miss till this day. I loved the build qualitiy of the Evo, it just felt so much more durable. The evo is truly a great phone and i miss the heck outta it!
The Epic.... I love it! I love the keyboard, I tried so hard to get use to the on-screen keyboard on the EVO (even tried swype on it) and couldn't use it.. As I am a heavy texter (about 3000+ a month) the keyboard is a must for me. The screen on the Epic is well..... just EPIC! Its amazing! but then again the Evo had the bigger screen....
Both are awesome phones! If I could have both I would use the EVO to watch movies (kickstand) and to customize a lot. But I would def use the Epic as my daily phone. I strongly believe once we receive froyo there will be bigger & better things stored for us.
If you think you can live without a keyboard go for the EVO, but since your use to keyboards like the tp had then I would get the Epic.. (That is if you used it a lot?)
Like I stated both phones are great but I'd have to say Epic with the screen, keyboard & I personally think the camera quality is better on both the front and back. Defiantly the video quality is better on the Epic. 720p on the EVO looked like crap and didn't even look like 720p, the Epic is much crisp & clear IMO.
However I did miss HTC Sense (i loved the animations & clock) but with a couple apps from the market, you can make your phone feel like your using an HTC phone! Good luck on whatever you may choose, I'm sure you will be satisfied with either phone!

What made you choose the G2/Desire Z?

I didnt want to get the G2 at first since I was just infatuated with the vibrants screen but once I got to play with it I needed to have it!
So what made you choose the G2? And how long are you gonna stick with it?
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I just love it
My last 2 phones were a HTC Kaiser and a Touch Pro 2. With both I felt I had never would need another phone.
Well, more and more things were coming to Android only, a lot of apps (Facebook, maps, google's native things) look and work a whole lot better on android, so I thought to switch. I drooled over having 720p HD video.
I wanted to stick with a qwerty.
These all made me want a Desire Z.
...and Santa brought me one... ))

I chosed da g2 after droping my mt3G on the toilet. At first I wanted the vibrant but after reading and seen pics of the g2 it was a perfect match this phone has everythig I hoped for and more rooted about 5 minutes after getting it lol
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moolash said:
My last 2 phones were a HTC Kaiser and a Touch Pro 2. With both I felt I had never would need another phone.
Well, more and more things were coming to Android only, a lot of apps (Facebook, maps, google's native things) look and work a whole lot better on android, so I thought to switch. I drooled over having 720p HD video.
I wanted to stick with a qwerty.
These all made me want a Desire Z.
...and Santa brought me one... ))
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I swear, for a minute I thought your reply was my reply.
Just like you, I went form a kaiser to the TP2 and now the Desire Z. Just like you, I thought my previous phones were the mother of all inventions and I wouldnt need another phone in my lifetime . I would have upgraded in November but I thought I would just hold on to the TP2 until the middle of this year but the dreaded newton rings appeared on the TP2 last week (2nd time in 6months) so I was 'forced' to upgrade. I also must have a physical keyboard but I flirted with the Desire HD and Nexus S. The DHD was just too big and the NS didnt have a keyboard. Despite all the noise about the hinge, I bit the bullet and got the Desire Z and I thank gooness I did. Absolutely no regrets. My TP2 now feels like an early 90s phone.
Just in case anyone is interested, my TP2 with a brand new screen and absolutely no scratches + all accessories and an 8GB microSD card is up for sale @ £150.

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lombardo8 said:
I swear, for a minute I thought your reply was my reply.
Just like you, I went form a kaiser to the TP2 and now the Desire Z. Just like you, I thought my previous phones were the mother of all inventions and I wouldnt need another phone in my lifetime . I would have upgraded in November but I thought I would just hold on to the TP2 until the middle of this year but the dreaded newton rings appeared on the TP2 last week (2nd time in 6months) so I was 'forced' to upgrade. I also must have a physical keyboard but I flirted with the Desire HD and Nexus S. The DHD was just too big and the NS didnt have a keyboard. Despite all the noise about the hinge, I bit the bullet and got the Desire Z and I thank gooness I did. Absolutely no regrets. My TP2 now feels like an early 90s phone.
Just in case anyone is interested, my TP2 with a brand new screen and absolutely no scratches + all accessories and an 8GB microSD card is up for sale @ £150.
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I have to admit I use the qwerty keyboard less frequently on the DZ.
Reason one: it's good to type with touch input, it even support X9 in Hungarian (while the qwerty supports English only) so it completes a lot of words right.
Reason two: I donno if this is a question of getting used to it or not, but the keyboard is a lot worse than on the TP2. I wouldn't dis it, neither the hinge, cause it's not a problem either. It's just more awkward typing on it, plus special chars in hungarian work different than previously on the TP2.
I do not regret the TP2. There are soooo many advantages of the DZ and Android they make me forget the front camera, too.

It was the only decent device my carrier offered other than the SGS which suffered the all too well known corrupted SD due to samsung failure.
I was never too crazy about the keyboard, but have grown to like and use it.
I do miss the SA screen, screen dimensions, and the device dimensions, - but the usability added by sense is amazing. Plus the DZ seems to be much faster and more stable to me based purely on my own usage.

I've gone through so many phones and the g2 impressed me so much that I had to get it. And the fact that it was one of the first phone compatible with hspa.
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I'm coming from the touch pro 2. I was looking to stick with the physical keyboard and it takes a while to get to the one on the g2. I wanted a phone to have wifi calling since I do not get any service in some of my classes at college. Android apps are no iphone apps but they work. Windows mobile is highly customizable and I like being able to have the option to do so on the G2 if ever needed. I will hold on to my G2 for as long as I can or till a dual core, physical qwerty, windows phone 7 with a 4+ screen hits T-Mobile. Well a better one than the dell venue pro.
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I got the G2 because I went from a Sony Ericsson as my 1st phone, Moto Razr as my 2nd, Sidekick 3 as my 3rd, Blackberry Pearl 8120 as my 4th, and G1 as my 5th.
G1 was by far my favorite phone, with the Pearl being in 2nd. I fell in love with Android, then I learned about rooting, and that was a wrap. Went from a Haykuro 1.5, to a JesusFreke 1.5, then I learned about Cyanogen. Man, oh man, were my eyes opened by the XDA community.
From the G1, the 2nd Android phone for TMO came in the form of the myTouch 3G, and I had to have it, because I had transformed into an Android fanboy. From there, I went to an HD2, for the sole fact that I hoped that Android would be ported over to it, which thankfully, is now a reality!
I switched back and forth between the HD2 and the MT3G for a while, then I stuck with the MT3G, because I wanted the genuine Android experience. I wish I bought the N1 when it first came out, but the money wasn't there, so I had to settle.
When the G2 came knocking at TMO's doorstep and I knew about phone specs now and actually saw what the G2 had, I was very impressed, and having owned its big brother, the G1, it was fate that I had to buy it.
Yes, the G2 may have some flaws like the loose hinge and less than great camera in artificial/low light conditions, but I still love this phone and would not want to trade it for an HD7, MT4G, a Galaxy S phone, or anything else offered by TMO right now.
I love this phone and I would not change my decision of purchasing it if I had the opportunity to do it all over again.
Oh, and the fact that it is the first HSPA+ phone for T-Mobile, which there is 4G in my area also is a great perk!

simple, Cyanogen has it!

dontbes said:
I didnt want to get the G2 at first since I was just infatuated with the vibrants screen but once I got to play with it I needed to have it!
So what made you choose the G2? And how long are you gonna stick with it?
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2 dead Galaxy S Vibrants from Bell pushed me to the Desire Z. I wish I got it in the first place.
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Groboto said:
simple, Cyanogen has it!
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That was a selling point for sure!! I started with a Samsung Moment and then A Vibrant. I changed roms like twice a day trying to find "The one". It was kinda like internet dating, lol. I had to replace one of my Vibrants and while I was waiting for the replacement they had the G2 for $0 on black Monday. The rest is history, rooted and CM6. Physically its a beautiful phone imo, though it is protected and covered with an Otterbox. Only gripe is the hinge deal, but I swype 99.9% of the time. Its just a solid phone with awesome support, yeah Cyanogen has one. I'm waiting on something Tegra 2 based to hit TMO before I get another.

I had an original MyTouch 3G, it was slow as molasses on froyo, didn't have a keyboard, and didn't have a 3.5mm jack
the G2 is the only phone released in the last 6 months that fixes these problems. Adding in the 1.7GHz(!) overclock and solid cyanogenmod support made it even better

cyanogenmod .
ahah. I bought it before I knew cyanogenmod had it.
I had the G1, and loved it. Too bad i had to return it cuz ma dad was on my ass for always being on it. what do you except? its android!
So I heard the G2 was coming out and I almost shyt my pants.
its a sexy phone. i dont mind the hinges... one thing that sucks is no front facing camera... but o well.. maybe the G3 will own?

Got a G1 shortly after launch. Tmo upgrade came along not too long ago and so did the follow up phone... the G2. Physical keyboard is a must have for me.
I can't stand a touch screen keyboard.
The new network is also a nice perk.

Let's see.....After putting almost 50 windows roms on my HD2 and of course some Android builds. I realized the phone was getting boring by the day. I missed having a physical keyboard...better apps of course, faster speeds,and better battery life.
Sent from my T-Mobile G2 using XDA App

I wanted a good phone (better than my old omnia) with a working keyboard for which i would not pay much.
I could get a motorola flipout (found it was a poor phone), an xperia x10 mini pro (it would have been good, provided the battery was not that fast empty and unremovable), or some blackberrys with small screens. I would have had to pay more than 400$ for every interesting phone with a nice screen and a keyboard.
Then, virgin mobile made a flash offer on the desire Z. I had to pay around 80$, which was nice, and a sub 40$/month service including unlimited-yet-not-that-much-unlimited internet, unlimited texts and 2hrs/month .
So i got it. Quite impressed by it actually, worth more than what i actually thought, especially now that i know debian can be installed on it
i am new to android, i had an omnia before. The improvement in feeling is huge, but i feel quite concerned about new phones. With windows phone 6.1 i could do what i wanted on it, no need to hack around to install apps that require some special hardware access or root access and so on. I did not have to install a file browser either...
I just hope phone OS designers would stop trying to limit phone usage. Anyway they currently have not succeeded, so thats fine

Simple its indestructible..
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I used to be a hard core crackberry user. My first android was the MT3G- loved it, but just couldn't get used to the touchscreen keyboard while also using a BB. (didn't care much for the iphone- my 5 year old uses it now)
When the HD2 came out, I'm glad I got it asap! The hardware was what made me want it badly.. The screen size was perfect for the onscreen kb, and it was even better when we could run android.. but I got sick of being annoyed on a daily basis. And I suffered from keyboard envy.
I was going to hold out on upgrading until Spring, as I usually did, and had been following the G2 forums since the release. Early December TMo offered me BOGO if we switched back to a contract... I couldn't refuse, and a sexy G2 arrived days later.
I love it. I was concerned with giving up screen real estate, but that quickly passed. My only issue is signal strength- I only get G where I live but forced into an unlimited 4G plan though I'm always on wifi, and the "partner service" doesn't seem to work. No faults of the G2- TMo needs to get their services straight.
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cuz it was called G2, and everyone knew it was gonna be good.