HD2 has internally 576MB RAM, with some WM ROMs is possible unlock all of them. Is possible the same with Android? For example by edit startup.txt?
576MB apples ?
dcordes said:
576MB apples ?
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he probably means ram
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576MB apples ?
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Lol..someone should have used Google Translate. If he says it has 576mb internally, then I think he means storage, right? I'm not sure, so I'm most likely wrong.
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Lol..someone should have used Google Translate. If he says it has 576mb internally, then I think he means storage, right? I'm not sure, so I'm most likely wrong.
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lol, but he says unlocked and 576 and the only thing that was unlocked to 576 was ram
yeah its possible.
if you flash a .50 radio, the full 576mb ram is enabled.
DN41
people... you are missing the point here.
he meant to enable more ram inside android. just like windows mobile.with radio 50 and custom roms we enable the 576 MB RAM in our HD2 while running Windows Mobile.
but the big question is: could it be done inside androids running in HD2?
and even if it's not possible to enable that much of ram. is it possible to get the highest amount of ram. because more people (including me) are using android in day to day usage.
developers, please advice advice.
thanks.
what about for those of us who use the 1 gig snapdragon?
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what about for those of us who use the 1 gig snapdragon?
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android is already utilizing the 1 ghz processor.
wait until its possible to flash android on the NAND...if thats not possible, i'm pretty sure, you can never use the "full" ram...
but why should someone use it? i think its never full on android, even when you havent got the full ram enabled.
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DN41 said:
wait until its possible to flash android on the NAND...if thats not possible, i'm pretty sure, you can never use the "full" ram...
but why should someone use it? i think its never full on android, even when you havent got the full ram enabled.
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we do realize its not possible to use all of the 576 mb ram. because the "system" will use part of it to run it self. but the point is to have more ram anyway.
because now when we boot into android we only get 256 mb . half of this is used by android .and when we use the browser or watch youtube it gets really low "like 25 mb only available:.
currently we dont have access to all 576mb of RAM when using android.
I suppose we will get it at some point but this will need to be written into the kernel (at a guess)
Thanks David, very much. First really valuable reply! But I hoped in other reply :-(
so would a new zimage possibly fix this or is a new rom the only way to fix the button sized amount of ram cyanogen is giving me?
Lol, are you actually reading this forum guys?
I've just read one and a half pages of nonsense except David, whose info was some way of valuable.
At the moment, there isn't a full ram map written into the zimage (kernel), neither the start parameters adress the full range of 576MB. For some reasons I'm not aware of all tries to remap and enable the full memory failed so far (there are a bunch of topics out there).
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Lol, are you actually reading this forum guys?
I've just read one and a half pages of nonsense except David, whose info was some way of valuable.
At the moment, there isn't a full ram map written into the zimage (kernel), neither the start parameters adress the full range of 576MB. For some reasons I'm not aware of all tries to remap and enable the full memory failed so far (there are a bunch of topics out there).
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yeah i read the forum dude, and i asked a question about zimage or rom. simples.
hewlett777 said:
yeah i read the forum dude, and i asked a question about zimage or rom. simples.
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if you look at the zImage autobuilds, you can see that they've been able to SLIGHTLY increase the ram usage, but until it's running by itself(i.e. boot straight into android, no winmo at all) I doubt they'd be able to use the full amount.
So, it's all in the zImage. Roms can't change this.
It is possible....
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Thanks David, very much. First really valuable reply! But I hoped in other reply :-(
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Yes it is possible, in fact I tested a new kernel (zImage) last night that makes 384 MB available (compared to 256 MB right now). It boots unbelievably quick (like less than 15 seconds!) and the phone runs much smoother, really amazingly quick. When I boot up Android with only 256 MB of RAM allocated to it, I have a maximum of 120 MB free (usually less like 115, 110 or less).
With 384 MB allocated i had about 250 MB free, much better. Last night's kernel had some issues left (wifi not working, issues waking up).
Apparently it's been fixed already so we should have a new kernel available today.
Cotulla on his end is working on getting the 512 MB kernel working and he's close apparently. I think the remaining memory (the remaining 64 MB) will be used for the system or for the 3D buffer..... Not sure though...
Also your current Android build will work fine, all you'll have to do is replace the zImage and edit the startup.txt (to change the memory allocation values) and that's it. It might get a little bit more complex (like maybe replacing the wifi module) but all in all with proper instructions you should be able to do it in a few minutes.
Well let's wait and see... But 384 MB available already makes a huge difference so that's great news...
Hope this helps....
PS: I am amazed at the number of useless posts in response to your question.....
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Lol, are you actually reading this forum guys?
I've just read one and a half pages of nonsense except David, whose info was some way of valuable.
At the moment, there isn't a full ram map written into the zimage (kernel), neither the start parameters adress the full range of 576MB. For some reasons I'm not aware of all tries to remap and enable the full memory failed so far (there are a bunch of topics out there).
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Is their an HD2 forum or Community page or maybe even an IRC room with a more knowledgeable or atleast selective userbase? The devs are incredibly intelligent, but the amount of know nothings makes filtering out the noise headache inducing. Seems XDA is getting too big for its own good.
boba23 said:
#htc-linux on freenode. Open for everyone. I listened in this afternoon, while cotulla was talking about 515mb kernel e.g.
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I'll head there now, Thanks!
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i have a few questions, why does HTC say the HD2 device has 448 MB RAM, 512 MB ROM but my device has less
ok heres my info form my device...
STORAGE :-
ACTUAL SIZE : 181.60MB
USED : 72.34
FREE : 109.26
TOTAL PROGRAM :-
ACTUAL SIZE : 336.97
USED : 152.59
FREE : 184.38
so my question is why do i only have 336mb of ram and not 448mb wheres the missing 112mb, also why do i have 181mb of flash when im meant to have 512mb ?
thanks you in advance and sorry for the noob questions
while I know for many this is gratingly simple.. I too would like to be de-mystified.. There are a lot of people who have moved to winmo for this device and consequently a lot of people are clueless about the inner workings of the platform.
Your patience, and advice is much appreciated!
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while I know for many this is gratingly simple.. I too would like to be de-mystified.. There are a lot of people who have moved to winmo for this device and consequently a lot of people are clueless about the inner workings of the platform.
Your patience, and advice is much appreciated!
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great post matey, i hope we get the winmo techies on ower side and help us, with this little problem
An answer for you
Nothing to see here...
@grapefruitstudio
emm thank you that explain alot in one post, i understand now,
No worries
No worries mate, loads of this stuff is baffling the first time round. Happy to help
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No worries mate, loads of this stuff is baffling the first time round. Happy to help
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another question if you don't mind, storage memory is simple it stores my data / installed apps, but what does the program memory do exactly?
I'll get my coat...
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another question if you don't mind, storage memory is simple it stores my data / installed apps, but what does the program memory do exactly?
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Hi Damien,
Well this I decided to look up on the web to get the confirmation for you and it made me realise my last post was, in fact, utter tosh!! Soz
It appears it was not you who was misunderstanding this, It was me. As such I eat humble pie and turn to google....
So to put the record straight this is how it is:
The Program Memory is in fact your RAM. This figure your getting is normal, having done some digging on leo forums, it appears the Leo has some of the advertised 448M RAM dedicated to the GPU. As such you wont see the whole 448MB, however what the hell it's going to do with over 100MB of video memory I don't know.
On the old Windows mobile devices the ROM and RAM used to be the same thing (When old device specs included 'XXMB ROM' both those figures I showed you combined was the ROM size) things have changed!!
So where has the rest of your 512MB of ROM gone?
When your device is flashed with it's operating system that takes up XXMB of your 512MB and the remaining ammount for space (your 181MB) is whats left over from the OS install and any software/reservations HTC have put on.
Again my appologies for the misleading post, I'll make sure I check my stuff before posting...
If your interested in reading up on the whole ROM RAM thing you can check out these:
http://www.pocketpccentral.net/help/ipaq/pmem_explained.htm
http://blogs.msdn.com/windowsmobile/archive/2005/08/19/453784.aspx
They are both for WM 5 but persistant storage is the same for 6
wow thansk for the info and the links will read up on them now, great posts
My HD2 is the same. Says 448 MB Ram on hardware info page but 336MB on task manager.. Annoying. So this is normal then?
I just got a Nexus One and under SD Card and Phone Storage it shows that I only have 194 MB free. Is that right? I thought it came with 512 MB free?
I looked online and couldn't find anything so I thought I would ask the Pros.
Thanks in advance.
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I just got a Nexus One and under SD Card and Phone Storage it shows that I only have 194 MB free. Is that right? I thought it came with 512 MB free?
I looked online and couldn't find anything so I thought I would ask the Pros.
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Looks like their gonna unlock the other half of the 512mb of storage with the Froyo update
You for real?? So, they all come with 512MB, but you can only use 194 MB at the moment?
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You for real?? So, they all come with 512MB, but you can only use 194 MB at the moment?
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Yeah =P
Dunno why but just like on the Motorola Droid how they have an 800mghz processor and they clock it down to 550mghz (probably to make sure the first batch don't fry and then unlock the full features later)
The current kernel can't support more than that, with FroYo and the new kernel you'll be able to utilize all of it.
If you want to take advantage of all of it now, unlock, root, and flash a rom with the highmem kernel (damn near all of them).
I think you guys are confused. It sounds like he is talking about the phones internal storage, not RAM. The place where everything is installed.
192MB is quite a bit of space for downloading new apps since most are only a few megs at most. The reason you don't have all 512 available is because Android and the default apps are taking up space as well.
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the internal storage. The OS itself and the other built in apps take space so that's the reason you only have that amount.
First and foremost, If this question has been asked and answered before, forgive me. Secondly, anyone opting to flame me for asking this question will get their post deleted.
Now for the question:
Is there a single build out there that uses the full 576mb of RAM that comes in our devices? If so then please point me to that build(don't think this is gonna happen). If not then could a developer please explain why this hasn't been done and what needs to be done to get it working?
I'm not asking this as a noob. I've been using Android exclusively on my device for some time now with limited WM usage, only to change builds and boot back into Android and I'm pretty familiar with it. This doesn't mean I'm a Linux coder/developer, I'm just saying I'm not unfamiliar with the OS.
I welcome all replies as long as they're not argumentative or trolling in nature.
Thanks
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edit: I just stumbled across this thread. Skip to page two.
Im assuming the reason we don't see all ram used with these android builds is because the base wm rom they're using. For instance I use cleanex rom which has 350 ram available when booting android.. then the android system loads and I usually have around 300-305 available.
Now I've noticed with other wm roms once I boot into android I may only have 230-250 available... contrary to what people say I think wm does have background programs running once android boots... because there is no way android os takes over 250MB ram to operate...
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contrary to what people say I think wm does have background programs running once android boots... because there is no way android os takes over 250MB ram to operate...
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Dude, no windows kernel or programs are in memory when the android kernel is loaded.
Can a dev please clarify on this whether or not any windows is still left in memory?
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Im assuming the reason we don't see all ram used with these android builds is because the base wm rom they're using. For instance I use cleanex rom which has 350 ram available when booting android.. then the android system loads and I usually have around 300-305 available.
Now I've noticed with other wm roms once I boot into android I may only have 230-250 available... contrary to what people say I think wm does have background programs running once android boots... because there is no way android os takes over 250MB ram to operate...
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Are you sure about that 350mb free ram??
about that 250mb free of ram is kinda correct.. i'll give it a shot..
Yeah check out the cleanex wm rom has tons of memory free... its a light weight rom perfect for android
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OK AFAIK
When Haret kills windows it registers the total available memory on RAM eg 250-300MB
now HARET uses most of the information on RAM left by WimMo to initialize hardware for android to run properly,
The only solution for a build to use 576MB ram is NAND
I'm no dev or hacker, the above is what i understand from reading open to correction
Best regds
Afaik, Haret does keep a lot of the hardware initialized by winmo, but that has nothing to do with the ram after Linux is loaded. All ram is free and available to Linux, so I'm not sure why all ram isn't used. I thought it was all being used, with some being set aside for the os... maybe some set aside for video memory too??
I'm curious about this too, now. We need to get one of the devs to clear this up. I was under the impression that it was all being used, but it's not all user accessible or shown to the user because the os uses a certain amount. We should point a Dev to this thread.
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Any 'Awesome' answers?
Okay Im curious about this too. I just flashed my own lite WinMo rom, to see if it would make a difference, and I wasnt paying attentionso let me ask here if maybe I did something that goes along the lines of the questioning. My WinMo Rom is 80mb, flashed it, and it said Storage free 870mb and only 8mb used, under program it said 100mb used and 370 free, when I booted Android up after loading I went into the system panel lite and under storage it says:
System Storage Capacity: 309.7
Available 15.1(?!?!?!) is that right?
Application Storage: 1011.8
Available 684.2
I am using the Carbon Evo remix by motoman. Looking at the system storage capacity of 309.7 and available 15.1 do those numbers even look right? And from the Figures I stated, does that shed any light about getting to the 512mb mark? ALso when I do a task kill using ATK and TK, ATK says that my memory available is 270mb.
Hope this helps.
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Okay Im curious about this too. I just flashed my own lite WinMo rom, to see if it would make a difference, and I wasnt paying attentionso let me ask here if maybe I did something that goes along the lines of the questioning. My WinMo Rom is 80mb, flashed it, and it said Storage free 870mb and only 8mb used, under program it said 100mb used and 370 free, when I booted Android up after loading I went into the system panel lite and under storage it says:
System Storage Capacity: 309.7
Available 15.1(?!?!?!) is that right?
Application Storage: 1011.8
Available 684.2
I am using the Carbon Evo remix by motoman. Looking at the system storage capacity of 309.7 and available 15.1 do those numbers even look right? And from the Figures I stated, does that shed any light about getting to the 512mb mark? ALso when I do a task kill using ATK and TK, ATK says that my memory available is 270mb.
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I think you're reading your 16gb SD where it says 15.1. I'm pretty sure you are just reading your storage, which has nothing to do with ram.
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I think you're reading your 16gb SD where it says 15.1. I'm pretty sure you are just reading your storage, which has nothing to do with ram.
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Yes.. thats what i thought too..
EDIT: I have tried cleanEx and i still have the same RAM available!
The way I understand it, the full ram on the hd2 has been mapped out. While the unit does have 576mb of memory, it's shared among user memory and other system uses like graphics.
For a short time people were running the full ram kernel with 512mb or 576mb and they noticed right away the display were getting corrupted.
I'm not a dev, this explanation was posted by others. It's in the thread zhegoggles posted too, on page 20.
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I think you're reading your 16gb SD where it says 15.1. I'm pretty sure you are just reading your storage, which has nothing to do with ram.
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Sorry but I have an 8gb sd card running my android not a 16gb.
And system panel says 15.1mb not gb, its 309.7mb storage capacity and 15.1mb available, so obviously thats not it, but I am trying to see how much smaller I can make winmo to run android and see if that number changes any more or less.
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Sorry but I have an 8gb sd card running my android not a 16gb.
And system panel says 15.1mb not gb, its 309.7mb storage capacity and 15.1mb available, so obviously thats not it, but I am trying to see how much smaller I can make winmo to run android and see if that number changes any more or less.
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309.7mb is the size of your system.ext2 partition. 15.1mb is what's left on it. It does not matter as you're not adding anything to it, any apps you install goes into the data.img.
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Sorry but I have an 8gb sd card running my android not a 16gb.
And system panel says 15.1mb not gb, its 309.7mb storage capacity and 15.1mb available, so obviously thats not it, but I am trying to see how much smaller I can make winmo to run android and see if that number changes any more or less.
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Either way, storage capacity is not ram. Changing winmo roms does not effect your androids ram or storage capacity.
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Either way, storage capacity is not ram. Changing winmo roms does not effect your androids ram or storage capacity.
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way to burst my bubble there I got my WinMo down to near 40 mb and was hoping, (Not a linux person), I thought I read somewhere that winmo being in memory hampers linux, unless they were blowing smoke.
If thats the case, then how do you find out about memory then? If all the info is file based then how does one know what your using thru android?
I thought the HD2 has 488mb of RAM. If you read on the specs page it says 488MB of RAM.
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I thought the HD2 has 488mb of RAM. If you read on the specs page it says 488MB of RAM.
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International HD2 by default has 488MB with 88MB hidden can be unlocked by using custom roms
TMOUS HD2 has 576MB by default
So we all know tmobile was lying about the 4gb internal memory available (should have been @ least 8 in the first place anyways) and instead we see around 1.5 or so. I'm just wandering if the dev/hackers are looking into a way to counter this and unlock the extra internal memory were supposed to have from stock.
There is no way to unlock the extra memory, it's set like that in the factory. See the Wiki for a detailed explanation.
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if they can find a way to repartition the 1.5GB into 4GB, which i think is impossible. The wiki explains a lot.
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So we all know tmobile was lying about the 4gb internal memory available (should have been @ least 8 in the first place anyways) and instead we see around 1.5 or so. I'm just wandering if the dev/hackers are looking into a way to counter this and unlock the extra internal memory were supposed to have from stock.
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They did not lie there is that much its just being used for differnt functions dont get your panties in a twist kiddo
ionic7 said:
They did not lie there is that much its just being used for differnt functions dont get your panties in a twist kiddo
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No, it actually *IS* a lie.
The physical part is capable of being 4GB, but half of it was sacrificed **permanently** in order to boost performance and integrity.
There is more than 1.5 available though, its actually about 2.1 total available, 1.5 of which is in the USERDATA partition, the rest is in the SYSTEM and other partitions.
Full explanation located in Wiki
If anyone wants the details on the magically "missing" 2Gb of memory, there is a good explanation in the Wiki.
The consensus is that the hardware has 4Gb but it is permanently partitioned to serve as a 2Gb device with good redundancy and speed.
Explanation: The "missing" 2Gb
Wow, this whole missing memory theme won't ever die, I wish it would already.
Hey everyone, some people are claiming that the latest update (the one after Lollipop) either fixed or drastically improved the memory management problems. If you recieved the update, can you share your experience with us?
I saw some threads about the RAM issue, but none regarding the update, so I decided to create this one. Looking forward for the answers.
I updated vía OTA file. It does improve memory management in my opinion, but i think it's not fully fixed. It closes apps sometimes. But its way better thsn before the update
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I updated vía OTA file. It does improve memory management in my opinion, but i think it's not fully fixed. It closes apps sometimes. But its way better thsn before the update
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Did you perform a factory reset after the update like some users recommend?
Yes it has been Improved,even after installing a lots of apps including Facebook,messenger,whatsapp,battery doctor,truecaller,gravity screen etc i am getting around 400-350 MB ram free...
Apps installed in Internet or external memory not in ram main point is when you get 350+ram this these are running in background?
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Yes it has been Improved,even after installing a lots of apps including Facebook,messenger,whatsapp,battery doctor,truecaller,gravity screen etc i am getting around 400-350 MB ram free...
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At what point do apps start getting killed? Can you post a screenshot to show us your RAM usage?
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At what point do apps start getting killed? Can you post a screenshot to show us your RAM usage?
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Only one app is there which I have seen automatically killed i.e. Google play music. Even on KitKat only this app was getting killed automatically, on any other app I didn't faced this kind of problem.I am also using KitKat developed by android x86 project on my dell laptop which has 3GB ram, even on that play music gets killed automatically.
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At what point do apps start getting killed? Can you post a screenshot to show us your RAM usage?
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Here's the screenshot
Memory management is much improved, but it still isn't entirely fixed.
I don't understand why people want so much free memory though. Do you guys realize that excessive free memory had a direct correlation to your apps to closing? You want as much memory used as possible while leaving just enough free to load new applications.
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Memory management is much improved, but it still isn't entirely fixed.
I don't understand why people want so much free memory though.
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Yes, you do. What I don't understand is how Motorola sift through all the bull**** from people who have no idea how memory managent works under linux/android in order to decide whether the thresholds really are too aggressive or not.
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Memory management is much improved, but it still isn't entirely fixed.
I don't understand why people want so much free memory though. Do you guys realize that excessive free memory had a direct correlation to your apps to closing? You want as much memory used as possible while leaving just enough free to load new applications.
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I don't think people really want tons of free RAM, they were just trying to avoid reaching the threshold (before the update). Apps on the foreground were simply getting killed even though there was a good amount of free RAM left, therefore people were leaving more free RAM available to avoid things like this, even though free RAM is useless.
By the way, thanks everyone for their replies so far
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I don't think people really want tons of free RAM, they were just trying to avoid reaching the threshold (before the update). Apps on the foreground were simply getting killed even though there was a good amount of free RAM left, therefore people were leaving more free RAM available to avoid things like this, even though free RAM is useless.
By the way, thanks everyone for their replies so far
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Free RAM is "headroom", it is not useless. Imagine trying to prepare a multi-course meal on a kitchen worktop with no free space to spread out and work (the worktop is an analogy to RAM) - having room to move is a MUST. That's basic programming knowledge - always dealloc (release RAM) when you're done with it.
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Free RAM is "headroom", it is not useless. Imagine trying to prepare a multi-course meal on a kitchen worktop with no free space to spread out and work (the worktop is an analogy to RAM) - having room to move is a MUST. That's basic programming knowledge - always dealloc (release RAM) when you're done with it.
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And at the application level, Android decides which app you're most done with and kills the process, yeah... But caching when possible obviously improves performance and reduces power usage. People complaining that they only have 300MB of RAM free instead of 400MB should just go and buy a phone that is excessively powerful for their needs, lol.
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And at the application level, Android decides which app you're most done with and kills the process, yeah... But caching when possible obviously improves performance and reduces power usage. People complaining that they only have 300MB of RAM free instead of 400MB should just go and buy a phone that is excessively powerful for their needs, lol.
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I think Google need to investigate RAM compression, such as Apple do in Mac OS X now.
Memory management has definitely improved IMO. Less apps get killed, plus little or no reloading on chrome, so all in all, I'm reasonably satisfied with the update. But I think Motorola can even do better
Btw here's an article on the free RAM is wasted RAM issue.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20163493&postcount=6695
Pretty insightful, to say the least.
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Memory management has definitely improved IMO. Less apps get killed, plus little or no reloading on chrome, so all in all, I'm reasonably satisfied with the update. But I think Motorola can even do better
Btw here's an article on the free RAM is wasted RAM issue.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20163493&postcount=6695
Pretty insightful, to say the least.
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That "article" is just another XDA link. With respect, I'd like to see a credible article, not one from XDA itself. The author isn't even capable of basic, coherent grammar; if he can make mistakes at such a primitive level, SO early in the "article", I'll pass, thanks.
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That "article" is just another XDA link. With respect, I'd like to see a credible article, not one from XDA itself. The author isn't even capable of basic, coherent grammar; if he can make mistakes at such a primitive level, SO early in the "article", I'll pass, thanks.
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Judgmental much, and that too based on the level of english. Way to go.
lol, dude this guy is a respectable developer here on XDA. He sure know more than you do.
Oh and how about you answer my question on your troll post first.
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Judgmental much, and that too based on the level of english. Way to go.
lol, dude this guy is a respectable developer here on XDA. He sure know more than you do.
Oh and how about you answer my question on your troll post first.
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"He sure know more than you do"
How can any one person know who "knows more" than another person, least of all a stranger? We all have different and unique levels of knowledge, over hugely vast and varying fields of interest.
I come to XDA to grab things I need, not for intelligent discussion, and you're serving to further affirm that decision is a rational one.
Bah, you're probably 15 years old... why am I trying to reason with you? :laugh:
mahendru1992 said:
Judgmental much, and that too based on the level of english. Way to go.
lol, dude this guy is a respectable developer here on XDA. He sure know more than you do.
Oh and how about you answer my question on your troll post first.
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Jeeeez dude
Simmer down. The escalation in the tone of your opinion is way too steep :silly:
Try to maintain a level of tolerance before blarting out
Sorry if I didn't make myself clear, I was just pointing out that users wanted to have more free RAM because apps were getting killed when RAM was below ~150MB.
Also, please stop this useless argument you guys are having, ofending which other won't help at all.