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HTC Magician - no more updates

Not sure if there will be anymore ROM updates in 2006. Pretty much manufacturers will concentrate on their new releases.

Yes, when the 1.13 ROM was released, I heard rumours that that was the last update we're getting.

I believe you guys are right, the Magician has reached the end of its life span. But there never was a generic WWE version of the 1.13, only a few localized builds, right? And how about that weird Radio 1.13? It was never used in an official build.
Looks to me like they just suddenly said 'enough is enough' and then pulled the plug on the Magician...

Am I missing something ?
Hiya,
I saw you guys talking about Rom v1.13 and as far as I know, there is only Rom v1.12 WWE.
Is there any new release ?
Regards,
Bright Star

What exactly do you want? My 1.12 Rom together with the Radio 1.13 works just perfectly, nothing to complain about. Why people always want updates just for the updates' sake? I think we should be happy that we got such a good support for the Magician in the past - this is not common with all Pocket Pcs. I am completely satisfied with my Magician and the current software.

What exactly do you want? My 1.12 Rom together with the Radio 1.13 works just perfectly, nothing to complain about. Why people always want updates just for the updates' sake? I think we should be happy that we got such a good support for the Magician in the past - this is not common with all Pocket Pcs. I am completely satisfied with my Magician and the current software.

So ****ing true!

Re: Am I missing something ?
Bright Star said:
Hiya,
I saw you guys talking about Rom v1.13 and as far as I know, there is only Rom v1.12 WWE.
Is there any new release ?
Regards,
Bright Star
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Check the ftp or http://www.t-mobile.nl/zakelijk/htdocs/page/service/mda_compact_upgrade.asp
It's complete with radio 1.12 & BB support in the ext-rom.
Cheers, M

The Magician still has a lot of bugs. The more you push your device, the more bugs you will find. Just check around and you will know. But there's also quite a few silly bugs, that should have been fixed ages ago.
For example:
1. A generic bug that everyone have (to the best of my knowledge): if you are in the inbox while receiving a message, the envelope at the top of the screen will have to be removed manually, since it doesn't go away automatically after you have read the message.
2. A more specific bug. I believe this one is related to the setup of your telephony provider, but I am not quite sure. Still, it is a Magician-only bug: After a reboot, a text message will have to be received before the device is 100% logged onto the network. Until then calls can't go through, but are automatically transferred to voice mail. I have this specific bug and replacing the handset didn't help. Neither did upgrading the ROM.
So saying that ppl want updates just for the updates sake, simply isn't true.

HBK said:
The Magician still has a lot of bugs. The more you push your device, the more bugs you will find. Just check around and you will know. But there's also quite a few silly bugs, that should have been fixed ages ago.
For example:
1. A generic bug that everyone have (to the best of my knowledge): if you are in the inbox while receiving a message, the envelope at the top of the screen will have to be removed manually, since it doesn't go away automatically after you have read the message.
2. A more specific bug. I believe this one is related to the setup of your telephony provider, but I am not quite sure. Still, it is a Magician-only bug: After a reboot, a text message will have to be received before the device is 100% logged onto the network. Until then calls can't go through, but are automatically transferred to voice mail. I have this specific bug and replacing the handset didn't help. Neither did upgrading the ROM.
So saying that ppl want updates just for the updates sake, simply isn't true.
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1. Cant say I've noticed.
2. Does not happen with me.

Same to me, the camera annoys me more.
Overall this is the best device I ever had.
Regards, M

HBK said:
The Magician still has a lot of bugs. The more you push your device, the more bugs you will find. Just check around and you will know. But there's also quite a few silly bugs, that should have been fixed ages ago.
For example:
1. A generic bug that everyone have (to the best of my knowledge): if you are in the inbox while receiving a message, the envelope at the top of the screen will have to be removed manually, since it doesn't go away automatically after you have read the message.
2. A more specific bug. I believe this one is related to the setup of your telephony provider, but I am not quite sure. Still, it is a Magician-only bug: After a reboot, a text message will have to be received before the device is 100% logged onto the network. Until then calls can't go through, but are automatically transferred to voice mail. I have this specific bug and replacing the handset didn't help. Neither did upgrading the ROM.
So saying that ppl want updates just for the updates sake, simply isn't true.
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1. I haven't noticed this.
2. This doesn't happen with mine.

Jeez, guys! Just because you haven't 'noticed' something, doesn't mean it isn't there! I have been a software developer and professional bug hunter since 1996, so I notice these things, simply because it's my job.
It's also my job to narrow down the bug as much as possible, and in case of bug #2, I can tell you it's related to the Magician being listed as 'busy' on some centrals until the first message is received. So for those of you on centrals with this problem (Ericsson?), just disable the 'forward on busy' setting and you should be ok...

HBK, have you seen any other people on other providers have this bug? I've never heard of it.
The message icon I know only too well, though. It annoys me but it's not a huge issue.
I'm still on 1.11WWE with radio 1.13. Haven't felt a need to upgrade to 1.12 or even the T-mobile (or whatever) 1.13.
I run heaps of programs, many made by small developers that can be a little unstable and not install too neatly but aI gotta say that the operating system isn't bad compared to Microsoft's usual standard of bugs. You just gotta take a look at the latest WMF exploit in XP, 2000 SP4 etc. They'll never get that operating system right! Ok, so can't really compare the 2 but I can't say something good about Microsoft without bashing them in the same post! That's just not me!

HBK,
No offence, but error 2 seems to be very specific though must be highly irritating when you have it. Course there are many bugs, some M$ , some Magician related. Guess we all have to live with them forever, development won't ever be faultless due to several money related aspects of which I'm sure you will encounter in your work too.
Bottomline: my Nokia's have been much more stable & reliable. My Magician is much more capable & fun and my greatest irritation is the number of soft-resets a day due to a hanging camera app. or memory leaks. Sure it's partially all my third party apps & it's a (P)PC with a M$ OS, so I won't recommend a PPC to someone who just wants a phone with some extra's. Much to unreliable/unstable/frustrating. To me it's a hobby & I can live with it. When a patch comes along I try it & judge for myself. Still I'm quite happy with it.
Can't really make out if you're pissed or not (think not), if you are pls try to relax &, I know it's difficult, try to forget your work a bit & have fun with your magician it is possible ;-)
Cheers, M

@jimmy-bish
Actually, I have heard of a few other ppl here in DK having this problem, but it is very rare. That is also the reason why everyone, including the (German) technician who worked on my Magician, thought it was a hardware bug and replaced the motherboard. This means that now I only have the cover left of my original Magician, the rest has been replaced, but still the problem remains...
I have given up on Radio 1.13, since is was never officially released. Instead I am running the latest NL release of 1.13 with Radio 1.12 and Big Storage. Only the MMS part of the Ext. ROM is installed. All in all I believe this to be the best solution, running the latest released software with as few addons as possible.
MS is like a woman: you can't live with MS, and you can't live without! Even though they create heaps of problems, I sure am happy they are here, providing a lot of software we use everyday.
@oltp
Yes, it IS very specific. But please notice that I am not running my Magician on some home made network. I am a costumer of the largest mobile telephony provider in Denmark. This means that they run officially released software on their centrals and thus each and every phone released should be able to run on it, without any exception. Of course it is the responsibility of the phone manufacturer to make sure their product runs under all normally occuring circumstances and in this case, they have failed to do so. So there you have it, a bug in the Magician.
No, I am not pissed off. Although a bit frustrated, perhaps

I can confirm that both bugs exist and still.

You still have to seperate between bugs that are caused by the OS and cannot be corrected by manufacturer specific updates and bugs that are caused by the hardware, which certainly also cannot be corrected by an update. Besides that both bugs don't sound anywhere severe to me, the first one must be OS specific, the second one - well, I didn't ever realize it and never had this behavior. My device logs into the network without problems and without having to receive any messages. I never heard about or experienced myself problems with incoming calls.
I would recommend everyone to use Radio 1.13 since 1.12 was really crappy and 1.13 made a big difference for me and many others. Since that version, I don't have anything to complain about anymore.

dandie, what specific issues did the Radio 1.13 solve for you?

Please notice that the two bugs mentioned were only used as examples. They were just on top of my head. I believe a good handfull of other bugs are already described on this forum. No doubt a lot of people experience other bugs every day, but just aren't as loud about it.
@Dandie
Of course both bugs are Magician specific, or they would have been well known on all MS Mobile sites, regardles of devices. Just like the one with the SD card being deleted by WM2003SE, from time to time.
What do you mean that it isn't a severe problem if you can't receive calls on your phone? Are you kidding?
In many countries, including Denmark, ppl on average send/receive hundreds of messages each month, so bug #1 is a problem many times each day for a lot of us.
So what is a severe problem then? Does the device have to explode in your face on a daily basis or something like that?
I used the Radio 1.13 for several months and even though it seemed ok, it didn't fix any problems. So I went back to the latest Radio released, the 1.12.

I Have A Couple of Questions before I Purchase A Titan

Hey everybody,
I've been looking for a phone to replace my Verizon Centro (I love the phone, but hate the OS), and my decision has come down to the HTC Titan and the Samsung i760 - I'm pretty sure y'all can tell I'm on a budget with this. Anyways, I found a Titan on eBay with the GPS patched, upgraded to WinMo 6.5, and has is set so tethering the phone with a laptop and using it as a modem won't cost extra. I've also found one that's dirt cheap but without any patches.
Now, I've been searching the forums and found out how to do the first two. Those seem easy enough as long as I'm patient. I can not, however, find out how to deal with the tethering issue. I've tried all the search options and I haven't found it. I'm hoping someone can point me to a thread or site that talks about it.
Lastly, I'd also like to ask you all your opinions of the phone itself. It seems to have gotten good reviews, but I'd like to hear from people who actually know what their phone can do.
Thanks for your time and any help you can give me.

i just got the phone...this reply wont be of much help but i really like it...
i like the office programs and the wifi..
bit on the heavy side but quality!
hope someone can be of more use!

I've had mine for about a year and really like it. It has a lot of features that were pretty ahead of its time that are still considered high-end:
stereo bluetooth, gps, touch screen, wi-fi, camera w/ flash
After unlocking it, putting on custom ROMs and enabling aGPS, this phone will make most people happy. The biggest drawback (and this should not be overlooked) is that it only has 64MB of RAM. That's pretty meager for an otherwise very powerful phone, and causes it to lag sometimes. Running multiple programs can sometimes grind your phone to a halt. Even with that said, I love my phone and would recommend it...primarily to someone who is not afraid to be proactive about flashing your phone or being judicious with installed programs.
I would also recommend buying the "unpatched" phone. Learning how to unlock and flash will get you pretty intimate with how you phone works and why. It'll help you out in the long run, especially if something ever goes wrong. Plus, it's not terribly difficult.
And for the tethering issue, try to get your hands on the latest version of WMWifiRouter before it became a paid program. I think it's v 0.92. It turns your phone into a wireless router that shares your data connection over wifi. I use it all the time and it is fantastic.

btonetbone said:
I've had mine for about a year and really like it. It has a lot of features that were pretty ahead of its time that are still considered high-end:
stereo bluetooth, gps, touch screen, wi-fi, camera w/ flash
After unlocking it, putting on custom ROMs and enabling aGPS, this phone will make most people happy. The biggest drawback (and this should not be overlooked) is that it only has 64MB of RAM. That's pretty meager for an otherwise very powerful phone, and causes it to lag sometimes. Running multiple programs can sometimes grind your phone to a halt. Even with that said, I love my phone and would recommend it...primarily to someone who is not afraid to be proactive about flashing your phone or being judicious with installed programs.
I would also recommend buying the "unpatched" phone. Learning how to unlock and flash will get you pretty intimate with how you phone works and why. It'll help you out in the long run, especially if something ever goes wrong. Plus, it's not terribly difficult.
And for the tethering issue, try to get your hands on the latest version of WMWifiRouter before it became a paid program. I think it's v 0.92. It turns your phone into a wireless router that shares your data connection over wifi. I use it all the time and it is fantastic.
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Couldn't have said it better. I had my Titan for about a year aswell and it finally died when it feel out of my buddies truck. Luckily I had Sprint TEP so I got a Touch Pro for free. I loved my Titan though, even with the lack of ram, I was able to do anything I needed to do. I would also suggest you buy the un-patched one. Learning to do the things yourself will help you alot in the long run.
I have attached a cab of WMWifiRouter that was mentioned in the previous post and the internet sharing fix as well. Also, if you do get it, check out my site http://dwizzy130.webs.com/ to see some of the very lite on ram themes I have made that all work on the Titan.
If you have anymore questions, you can pm me or get my email on the contact me page of my site.
I hope this helps you make a decision,
dwizzy130

Thanks for your help guys! I decided to take your advice go with the unpatched one. Believe it or not, I was able to pick it up for $65, and it included the box and everything that came with it. Now I get to spend the next 4 days obsessing over when it will get here.

MrPenguin_2 said:
Thanks for your help guys! I decided to take your advice go with the unpatched one. Believe it or not, I was able to pick it up for $65, and it included the box and everything that came with it. Now I get to spend the next 4 days obsessing over when it will get here.
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Good choice, and hope you enjoy your phone!

MrPenguin_2 said:
Thanks for your help guys! I decided to take your advice go with the unpatched one.
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Great choice! After you have activated and got the phone working on its stock version be sure to copy down all the info in your Start > Settings > System Tab > Device Information. This will be helpful later if you get in a jam, and then start flashing away using the SD-memory card method. It's just faster and easier!
As for ROM choices, you'll get varying opinions but I mostly like my phone as a PHONE first and then as a Contact/Calendar PIM second, and then everything else considered. Which is why the DCD ROM's are my favorite because it's fast and leaves me with plenty of memory to install only apps that I intend to use!

Hey everybody, it's me again. Well, my phone is supposed to arrive tomorrow, and I've got most of the files downloaded and ready to go. All I need now is a ROM to flash it with. I've spent several hours looking around, so my question now is: would flashing to 6.5 be worth it (I've read quite a bit about the memory leaks), or should I go with dcd's titan ROM 3.3.4 for 6.1? Thanks again!

Htc 6800 rules
MrPenguin_2 said:
Hey everybody, it's me again. Well, my phone is supposed to arrive tomorrow, and I've got most of the files downloaded and ready to go. All I need now is a ROM to flash it with. I've spent several hours looking around, so my question now is: would flashing to 6.5 be worth it (I've read quite a bit about the memory leaks), or should I go with dcd's titan ROM 3.3.4 for 6.1? Thanks again!
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Hi,
I got hooked on the 6700 (Apache) back when Qwerst was had cheapest data plan, $15.
When I had issues with the functionallity of the unit, they sent me the 6800.
I found PPC Kitchen to be the most straight-foreward and fully selectable kitchen.
Just keep in mind that some of the apps that you choose, will cause other apps to become un-available. Like AdvancedConfig, (I select it first, then I can add other apps & it will not become un-selectable, unlike finding it later in the list, after selecting other apps).
There is also a program called "QPST".
This is important to copy the information from the phone while it is stock.
If your unit comes with Windows Mobile 6.1, get it setup with your carrier first, that way CustServ. Can walk you through setting up connections on your phone.
Any way there are very many helpful people using the fourms, with verry useful information, so enjoy your experience with the XDA & PPC Kitchen & don't forget PPC Geeks too.
Feel free to pm me.
Cac2us

Samsung Saga 6.5??

No love for the Saga??

I love it... and check for news about once every two weeks. Haven't heard anything.

hello fellow IL person... im hoping for a 6.5 cooked rom

note... I posted a message over on PDAPhoneHome.com and everythingwm.com and then found this thread... since it is similar in nature to my questions, I thought I would reply to this one instead of starting a new thread.
Greetings fellow frustrated Saga owners!
Wish I hadn't updated…
I, like many of you, now wish that I had not installed the update on my Saga.
It worked great before!... But now I am experiencing many of the same bugs that have already been mentioned on this forum.
I am pretty tolerant of bugs in general and I don't mind trying to find workarounds for them. Often, the workarounds add more functionality then would normally be there anyway… Plus I enjoy learning how things work.
Biggest problem…
The one thing that I can't stand is the loss of signal strength I have seen since updating! My data connection dies several times per day and I have to soft reset to get it back. Sometimes it is hours before I realize this has happened so I am not always getting my email right away. (Who has time to check their phone every few minutes to see if it has stopped synching or not?)
Other times it seems like it just stops synching for no reason. I use both an exchange server (MailStreet) and Windows Live and they both have this problem. Sometimes I check my phone when I go on break at Noon and I will notice that it hasn't synched since 9:30 AM or sometimes longer than that, yet there is no error message (like it tried to synch and couldn't) and I open the browser and can get on the internet. It is like it doesn't even try to synch. I have both of them set to synch every 15 minutes (greatly increases battery life btw) 24 hours a day. Then there are other times, it synchs more often than every 15 minutes… so I don't know what is going on!
Getting worse?…
Is it just me or do the signal issues seem to be getting worse? Or maybe it is just in my area? This past week I have actually started getting errors saying that it couldn't connect (whereas before, it just wouldn't connect... no errors)... and it seems to be happening more frequently.
Finally… my question…
What I would like to know is if anyone is working on a "cooked" ROM for the Saga. Either 6.1 or 6.5 would work for me. I have heard some good things about 6.5 (like dramatically increased performance), but I haven't heard about anyone working on this for the Saga. Waiting for Verizon to come out with another update is just a lesson in frustration and honestly I am not sure I would trust it if they did release one.
I consider myself to be a pretty tech savvy person and even enjoy some light programming on occasion (the .net framework is awesome… Something Microsoft got right!!), yet I am reasonably certain that cooking up my own ROM is beyond my skills (though I am willing to give it a shot if someone can point me to a clear guide)
Follow-up question…
If no one is working on this and no helpful guide is available, then I am wondering if a ROM from a similar phone can be used (maybe with a few modifications required?). For instance, is the Epix similar enough that we could use a ROM designed for it on the Saga? (There is a 6.5 ROM for the Epix that can be found here) Or does the fact that its hardware is GSM only make it out of the question?
More questions…
If using a ROM from a similar phone is possible is there a way to backup the current ROM so that it could be restored if the other ROM doesn't work? If so then I would probably be willing to use my phone as a guinea pig. Yes, I understand that there is a possibility that it could brick my phone and I am willing to accept the risk if there is a good chance that it will work. I have an old blackberry that I can use if something goes really wrong.
So I guess the real question is… How similar do the phones have to be? Or does it have to be identical hardware?
Any insight would be appreciated...
Steven

Id like to know the same answers! The Omnia, which came out at the same time will be upgradable to 6.5, so why did samsung release a phone that wont be at the same time as one that could?
i wonder if an omnia rom could be altered for the samsung?

Lets see some love for the Saga with 6.5, also any news on the Sags 2?

Revisiting old thread
I've still got a brand new Saga that I'd love to use if I could get a stable build of 6.1 or 6.5. The "update" from Verizon made the Saga useless with its instability and constant lock-ups.
I would really appreciate some of the experts here building a clean ROM for the Saga.
Thanks.

It's arrived! But need help!

Ok, so it came first thing this morning. I've spent the last few days reading up on the forum, and was wanting to flash a new rom (for the customised screens etc)
Now, I know I'm a NOOB in the biggest sense of the word when it comes to WM but some of the abbreviations in the guides are confusing me, can someone please explain them to me, or excatley what i need to be doing (just until i work my way round a bit!)
I know that there's a noobs guide, and i have read it honest, but i don't wanna be bricking it!
Pwweeease?

Make sure you have windows mobile device center installed on your pc. Connect the hd2 via usb to your computer (with the cable included with your hd2) and wait until windows mobile device center says it is connected.
To put an official rom on your hd2, download the rom and run the .exe included in the package. Follow the steps onscreen and you're done.
To put a custom rom on your hd2, you need to flash hardspl first. Steps are explained in detail here . Basically it involves connecting your hd2 to the pc, running the hardspl .exe file on your pc, and following the onscreen steps. Then that is done, and you will have to run the .exe file included in the custom rom package, and follow the onscreen steps again. To be safe you won't have any bugs, do a hard reset of your hd2 just after flashing the custom rom. Look here how to do that, it is explained at nr. 15. Pretty easy
good luck

if you make sure your hd2 battery doesn't run out (higher than 50% is usually said), and you make sure your pc doesn't shut down or do anything weird while updating, and you don't disconnect the cable while you are flashing, chances are practically 0 you will brick it.
What abbreviations are confusing you?

Cheers for the quick reply mate, i don't wanna come across as a complete knob (although i probably am already!)
TBH, it was things like hardspl and the other one, sspl or something?
If i put a customised ROM on it, is there any way of going back or is that it then?
Also, is windows 6.5.3 worth it? It's new out of the box, so have no idea whats what yet.
What, if any roms would people suggest? Also, do push notifications for twitter and facebook work? I've found already that the stock FB app that comes with it doesn't let you see people's comments on status's etc
All very confusing so far, but I'm still not reaching for the iphone back.....Yet!

northernneil said:
Cheers for the quick reply mate, i don't wanna come across as a complete knob (although i probably am already!)
TBH, it was things like hardspl and the other one, sspl or something?
If i put a customised ROM on it, is there any way of going back or is that it then?
Also, is windows 6.5.3 worth it? It's new out of the box, so have no idea whats what yet.
What, if any roms would people suggest? Also, do push notifications for twitter and facebook work? I've found already that the stock FB app that comes with it doesn't let you see people's comments on status's etc
All very confusing so far, but I'm still not reaching for the iphone back.....Yet!
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best to check what you have got on the device before you start upgrading..lol
when my phone arrived most of the updates from htc were on it already..

Forget about sspl (softspl), you don't need it. Hardspl is "better" (to keep things simple)
Flashing a new rom will delete all your settings, installed programs, etc etc. So backup what you need before flashing (you can use microsoft MyPhone -which is preinstalled on hd2's- to backup certain things).
About going back, yea you can 'go back', in case you can download the rom that is currently on your hd2. It is probably official hd2 rom version 1.48, but of course i'm not sure. But i don't think you would want to go back, there is no reason to. Unless you hate new roms, but you can always find one that is undebatably better and more up to date than the rom you are using now.
Yea windows mobile 6.5.3 is nice and in some ways a little better than 6.5, but it doesn't work 100% correctly with HTC sense. There are some graphical glitches with this on 6.5.3 roms.
I prefer Dutty's 0.3a rom (here) because it is basically the same as your stock rom, but with up to date software, up to date windows mobile 6.5, updated htc sense - and everything works flawlessly for me.
Haven't tried push notifications for facebook or twitter, so can't comment on that. 6.5.3 roms have some graphical glitches with HTC sense. Many other 6.5 roms have other customizations that I don't like.
Forget about the iPhone, the hd2 baby is miles and miles better (yes i've used the iPhone).
if you need more recommendations, shoot

Cheers for that mate. I'm gonna put sprog to bed and give it a go!
You are correct in the fact that it is a stock 1.48 rom shipped on the phone, please excuse my ignorance, this is my first wm phone! I'm an expert on the iphone now though lol!
I did read about flashing with bepe's thing, is that still needed?
Hopefully i'll find some decent FB and twitter apps that does push (I'm addicted lol!)
Umm, then to sort out google activsync again!

"bepe's thing" is hardspl, which is needed only once (ever) to unlock your phone to enable flashing custom roms. So yes, you need to do it when you want to flash a custom rom.

I don't want to be a damp rag or anything but I'd personally use the phone for a week or two before installing any custom ROMs. When I received my phone it was perfect, lasted 2 days easy on one charge (with everything set to auto update) and had no camera issues. I then installed the unofficial 1.48 and now the battery struggles to get 2 days even with most auto updates turned off and the camera developed the over exposure issue. Now I regret updating it and am slightly hesitant to do it again.
Also, most custom ROMs at the moment do not have very major upgrades to them and are usually just very slightly tweaked. I'm waiting for something more worthwhile to be released (like WM6.5.3 with a fully functional Sense) before I go and HSPL my phone. Take a look at this user for an example of what might happen.
But then again I may be acting over cautious and might not be enjoying the full power and epic-ness out of my HD2.

meegulthwarp said:
I don't want to be a damp rag or anything but I'd personally use the phone for a week or two before installing any custom ROMs. When I received my phone it was perfect, lasted 2 days easy on one charge (with everything set to auto update) and had no camera issues. I then installed the unofficial 1.48 and now the battery struggles to get 2 days even with most auto updates turned off and the camera developed the over exposure issue. Now I regret updating it and am slightly hesitant to do it again.
Also, most custom ROMs at the moment do not have very major upgrades to them and are usually just very slightly tweaked. I'm waiting for something more worthwhile to be released (like WM6.5.3 with a fully functional Sense) before I go and HSPL my phone. Take a look at this user for an example of what might happen.
But then again I may be acting over cautious and might not be enjoying the full power and epic-ness out of my HD2.
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What is unofficial 1.48? There is an official 1.48, and most unofficial custom roms are based on a higher rom version than 1.48. I think you're being a little over cautious, I have flashed practically millions of roms on HTC devices and never experienced a problem. The problems you are having with battery and camera are probably related to your custom rom choice and/or your settings.
But you're right that there isn't a world of difference between the stock rom and newest custom roms, the hd2 is a relatively new device. Still, I feel you can't go wrong by updating the rom to a good custom one, and it will be better than the stock rom. Dutty's holy grail 0.3a is my recommendation, but to each one his own.

Slow down mate!
Northerneil,
I know you are dying to get into your device and flash roms like there's no tomorrow. I say STOP, slow down, take your time.
I would get to know how your device works the way it is first. One good thing about this is that if there any hardware problems you can return the device as an exchange without having to undo loads of changes that are NOT warranty friendly.
Next, READ, READ and READ again. Flashing roms sounds quite simple and the process has improved tremendously. The problem isn't flashing a rom; its knowing how to recover if it all goes wrong. Its getting to know the pitfalls and how to get out of them e.g your device rebooting for no reason, which is a problem some serial flashers are having right now.
Welcome on board, hope you heed my advice although I appreciate you are a big boy and can do what you want. However a bricked device can take a long time to fix, even if you know what you are doing, and if you are lvery ucky.
WB
PS: Feel free to PM me if you want to know more about certain functions and abbreviations. You need to know as much as possible before you start tinkering with your device.

barty22 said:
What is unofficial 1.48? There is an official 1.48, and most unofficial custom roms are based on a higher rom version than 1.48. I think you're being a little over cautious, I have flashed practically millions of roms on HTC devices and never experienced a problem. The problems you are having with battery and camera are probably related to your custom rom choice and/or your settings.
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By "unofficial" I was referring to the 1.48 405 WWE that was available for download before HTC made it official on their website.
I am still running that "unofficial" 1.48 ROM with the stock settings so I doubt that these problems have anything to do with my settings.

Please do not upgrade to the last version posted in htc web page!!

All, I just repeated my flashing of the last official upgrade posted on Oct 19th 2010 for the HD2 in the HTC web page, Support area. It makes the unit go TERRIBLY SLOW ALL THE TIMES!!, the memory consumption can arrive up to 90% with NO APPLICATION OPEN!!!!!!!! IT IS A DISASTER!! I think that if HTC see a forum here it will pay attention and remove that upgrade from web page. At least for the Chezck region. The phone said it had an amount of memory free when you installed programs, but when you went to see the value in the About area, the numbers were very different. I just moved back to the previous version.

you have hspl installed still, would be my guess.
if not, do a hard reset and start over. perhaps even flash it again.

Sir 90% of the problems on the latest stock Rom 3.14, isn't the fold of Device/Rom
But the user!
Stock Rom 3.14 isn't compatible with HSPL.
Is this a problem of HTC??? No!!!
Because this is a product create by users not support by HTC.

I've been using it for2 wks and I find it extremely stable and very fast. So except for some bugs n issues that I've already reported to HTC hoping for a hotfix soon (lack of slide down menu and inability to use other phone features during a phone call, poor radio reach/higher battery drain being a couple of ones that bother me the most), it's worth giving it a try if you want a speedy and crash free experience for a while.
Btw, in my case, the upgrade was from stock ROM 1.66, and no HSPL/cooked Roms ever installed.

Tethering with Rom 3.14?
Does the new rom permit tethering via Tools/Internet Sharing?

mandel4026 said:
Does the new rom permit tethering via Tools/Internet Sharing?
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Hi mandel4026,
I wonder why do you doubt the 'Tethering' option in the HTC official ROM upgrade.
The HTC website mentions:
'Tethering:
* Internet Sharing through USB or Bluetooth
* Wi-Fi Router'
as it's specification. I believe that they wouldn't turn-off the feature this ways through a ROM upgrade.

mandel is worried that he thinks since tmobile will charge seperately for tethering now, the new rom upgrade for tmobile will have the function bundled to tmobile applications and not as default in device tools like in roms elsewhere outside the US...i think it may not be the case, mandel

lovanova said:
I've been using it for2 wks and I find it extremely stable and very fast. So except for some bugs n issues that I've already reported to HTC hoping for a hotfix soon (lack of slide down menu and inability to use other phone features during a phone call, poor radio reach/higher battery drain being a couple of ones that bother me the most), it's worth giving it a try if you want a speedy and crash free experience for a while.
Btw, in my case, the upgrade was from stock ROM 1.66, and no HSPL/cooked Roms ever installed.
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I have updated to 3.4 and on the whole it works great but I also have the issue that in a call there is no slide down menu as in the prvious and none of the functions work - not even bringing up the keypad or putting it on speaker!!
Has anybody found a fix for this or do we need to wait for a hotfix from HTC??

DexterDuck said:
I have updated to 3.4 and on the whole it works great but I also have the issue that in a call there is no slide down menu as in the prvious and none of the functions work - not even bringing up the keypad or putting it on speaker!!
Has anybody found a fix for this or do we need to wait for a hotfix from HTC??
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slide down menu in call can be shown/hidden by using bsb tweaks

DexterDuck said:
I have updated to 3.4 and on the whole it works great but I also have the issue that in a call there is no slide down menu as in the prvious and none of the functions work - not even bringing up the keypad or putting it on speaker!!
Has anybody found a fix for this or do we need to wait for a hotfix from HTC??
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Has thee been an official 02 one yet or are you using one from elsewhere?

Imperator Nick said:
Has thee been an official 02 one yet or are you using one from elsewhere?
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no, not yet. watch this page
http://www.htc.com/uk/supportdownloadlist.aspx?p_id=297&act=sd&cat=all

phone screens work perfectly for me, speaker buttons and keypad much easier to access without that slide down panel

just installed it....will see how slow it is

lovanova said:
I've been using it for2 wks and I find it extremely stable and very fast. So except for some bugs n issues that I've already reported to HTC hoping for a hotfix soon (lack of slide down menu and inability to use other phone features during a phone call, poor radio reach/higher battery drain being a couple of ones that bother me the most), it's worth giving it a try if you want a speedy and crash free experience for a while.
Btw, in my case, the upgrade was from stock ROM 1.66, and no HSPL/cooked Roms ever installed.
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Ho! that's really stable then
Minor issues, who wants to use the phone features or bother about radio or battery efficiency??
I see that the HTC support are still doing good...
PS: do yourself a favor, replace their "romgarbage" and try some on this forum.
I had Artemis 29 for months with nearly no issues. It also solved all HTC rom issue I had!

samsamuel said:
you have hspl installed still, would be my guess.
if not, do a hard reset and start over. perhaps even flash it again.
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hi guys, i have the same problem with memory and another strange problem is, i cannot install some of my medical programs. Is there anyway to restore the old HSPL? or any other solution. I tested some of the customized and they were unstable, so i prefer to use the stock rom? so any solution for HSPL restoring?

htchd2sucks said:
Ho! that's really stable then
Minor issues, who wants to use the phone features or bother about radio or battery efficiency??
I see that the HTC support are still doing good...
PS: do yourself a favor, replace their "romgarbage" and try some on this forum.
I had Artemis 29 for months with nearly no issues. It also solved all HTC rom issue I had!
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Ok, I gotta admit I use another phone for calls usually, son HD2 isn't my primary phone for that matter.
I'm still on the fence about cooked Roms, I believe they aren't bug free either and besides, I'm worried about software conflicts (?), so I'm not sure. Not to mention all the hassle if ever needed to revert to stock roms. I guess a bit of 'bricking' phobia too.