I know these roms don't use partitions but do use ads2sd (install to sd). Do you have to check a box like 2.1 to activate? Do all programs that are installed go to the sd or just ones that have it built in their programs?
With my rom(and likely the other CM6 based roms) you can move any app to SD, you just hit the 'move to sd' button in the app manager. You do need to enable the 'any app' part for apps that don't specifically support it.
I've tried to move all my apps to sd from cyanogen settings, but this way my home screen takes 3-4 seconds every time to load all the icons.
so i had to reinstall all my apps into the internal memory.
any advice?
Tks
Certain apps do not perform well from the SD card, do not put any apps that load widgets onto the SD card either it can cause them to stop loading. Just put games or things like that on it.
right, by using all widgets and apps from the internal memory, it works better, but sometimes it still takes some seconds to load the home icons.
i'm also using the overclock at the maximum rate, installed in the internal memory, and a task killer to kill all the apps to free memory.
i'm not very very happy about this version 2.2 on g1: is it just my problem or is it a known problem?
Probably i'll go back to the 2.1
tks a lot.
ominide said:
right, by using all widgets and apps from the internal memory, it works better, but sometimes it still takes some seconds to load the home icons.
i'm also using the overclock at the maximum rate, installed in the internal memory, and a task killer to kill all the apps to free memory.
i'm not very very happy about this version 2.2 on g1: is it just my problem or is it a known problem?
Probably i'll go back to the 2.1
tks a lot.
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How fast is your SD card? Sounds like just a slow card.
ominide said:
right, by using all widgets and apps from the internal memory, it works better, but sometimes it still takes some seconds to load the home icons.
i'm also using the overclock at the maximum rate, installed in the internal memory, and a task killer to kill all the apps to free memory.
i'm not very very happy about this version 2.2 on g1: is it just my problem or is it a known problem?
Probably i'll go back to the 2.1
tks a lot.
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g1? This is an Eris forum. Anyway, apps are loading slowly because you keep killing them.
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i'm sorry, i didn't noticed the eris forum.
my sd is a 8gb, class 4, with partition and swap 64mb.
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I am trying to work out what is using all the memory on my Magic 32B. After rebooting I am left with only 15Mb which is causing it to run dog slow.
After rebooting I notice that apps I hardly use are running and consuming memory;
MP3 store, facebook, Tunewiki. Those together are using nearly 10Mb. Can I stop them running at startup?
What is the best application to use to manage RAM?
I cannot understand why there is so little RAM available? This device has 192MB? As I have moved my Apps2SD can I reallocate space from internal storage to be used as RAM?
How much free RAM should I be looking to have in order for the phone to run fast?
Should I be looking to use a Swap file? I have already moved by apps to SD...
Sorry if i am asking stupid questions. Relative Noob to Android
aidanbree said:
I am trying to work out what is using all the memory on my Magic 32B. After rebooting I am left with only 15Mb which is causing it to run dog slow.
After rebooting I notice that apps I hardly use are running and consuming memory;
MP3 store, facebook, Tunewiki. Those together are using nearly 10Mb. Can I stop them running at startup?
What is the best application to use to manage RAM?
I cannot understand why there is so little RAM available? This device has 192MB? As I have moved my Apps2SD can I reallocate space from internal storage to be used as RAM?
How much free RAM should I be looking to have in order for the phone to run fast?
Should I be looking to use a Swap file? I have already moved by apps to SD...
Sorry if i am asking stupid questions. Relative Noob to Android
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First off, if you are rooted you should format your SDcard. Second of all what ROM are you using if your not running stock.
I am running Cyanogen's current rom 4.2.13
I repartitioned my SD card to use App2SD. At that time I was able to reallocate space rather than format.
Cheers
Aidan
My I9000 is very laggy. Not always, just most of the time.
Closing com.sec.android.app.samsungapps.una & Daily Briefings with TasKiller gets me back around 30 MB, available memory now back around 60MB & phone now useable.
I've found a couple of samsung apps in system/app, SamsungWidget_WeatherClock.apk is 8.9MB, I think that's the culprit. How do I stop it running? Do I just delete it? (I'd probably copy it to the SD card & backup just in case.)
Are there any others i should get rid of/prevent from starting?
wavemechanic said:
My I9000 is very laggy. Not always, just most of the time.
Closing com.sec.android.app.samsungapps.una & Daily Briefings with TasKiller gets me back around 30 MB, available memory now back around 60MB & phone now useable.
I've found a couple of samsung apps in system/app, SamsungWidget_WeatherClock.apk is 8.9MB, I think that's the culprit. How do I stop it running? Do I just delete it? (I'd probably copy it to the SD card & backup just in case.)
Are there any others i should get rid of/prevent from starting?
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I use LauncherPro so I don't (can't) use any Samsung Widgets. However, I was using touchwiz for a while, I didn't have many memory issues with it. If the widget is running you can just click and hold the widget and move it to the trash, you don't need to back it up (it'll still be installed). There are many other things running that the Samsung TaskKiller doesn't pick up, that said, Android from what I read and see myself doesn't need much more than 30-50mb free at any time (though when I'm going to start surfing and doing a lot of activity I do try to free up around 150mb, just incase) and if you happen to push the boundary it'll free up memory for you.
If you want to be able to kill more tasks get ATK (advanced task killer).
After what ive read android dont page memory the way computers do, when it runs out of working memory. Reason is lack of memory i guess. But with several gigabytes of memory in internal storage, whats the problem?
With winmo I had to share working memory with installed software (if not installing on sd).
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With winmo I had to share working memory with installed software (if not installing on sd).
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No lah. Ram & rom, different.
Can those of you that notice screen freezes check your available memory at the time of the freeze. Im noticing that my build works perfectly until I get under 190mb available and it get progressively worse with the more memory in use. At around 100mb I start getting long wake times.
I have also removed three screens of icons and widgets to stop items from reloading after I kill the app. I have also reenabled my gsensor and auto-rotate (I had used gscript to disable it). Again as long as my memory stays above 200mb the system is GREAT, even with the gsensor active.
I did not notice any freezes after initial load, but as I started accumulating apps and widgets I think I have hit a choke point with memory.
I hope I am on to something.
Also, Im using TasKiller to kill apps with "Kill on Screen Off" enabled.
I am interested in seeing what people are experiencing. As I have stopped using task managers and have reverted to allowing android to do its thing. I have also turned of the screen rotation. I do not experience long wakes or screen freeze normally.only when my setcpu power profile falls below 572mhz do wakes become slower.
I tried to stop using task killers but i cant uninstall TasKiller as mattc has put it into the ROM so if I uninstall it it comes back on reboot. So I figure if he put there, it must be worth using.
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I tried to stop using task killers but i cant uninstall TasKiller as mattc has put it into the ROM so if I uninstall it it comes back on reboot. So I figure if he put there, it must be worth using.
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You would think that but I dont think people have an understanding of how android works vs winmo. In winmo Apps run all willynilly and dont shut down when memory is needed.
I will do my best to explain basic over view as i saw it
Your home screen is always in memory as it is considered a frontend app.
When you open a app it keeps the home screen in memory.
Now say this app is gmail. gmail opens and you open a link that opens a web browser. Now Say you decide to open a game but you have no more memory.
Android decides which app can be killed to make room for the new app.
since gmail was opened prior to the browser it is considered the oldest.
Android creates a saved state as you will. But only of the position in which you were at in gmail. It can then auto populate that info at a later time.
Then once you are done with the game If you press back it will bring up the web browser. If you press back again it will access that gmail saved state to bring you back to that point in the app killing off the game as its un-needed.
http://developer.android.com/guide/topics/fundamentals.html
this link is more info. they can explain it better than i could
jmmmmm said:
I tried to stop using task killers but i cant uninstall TasKiller as mattc has put it into the ROM so if I uninstall it it comes back on reboot. So I figure if he put there, it must be worth using.
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Remove the APK for TasKiller in the AndroidApps folder, boot into android and uninstall. Then it won't be back.
I just flashed the 2.12.50_2 on my hd2 tmous version
i had a completely stock radio 2.06.xx I flashed mattc 1ndroid version 1.7
and it would freeze on the lock screen....is that a radio issue or a WM Rom underneath it issue??
hazard99 said:
You would think that but I dont think people have an understanding of how android works vs winmo. In winmo Apps run all willynilly and dont shut down when memory is needed.
I will do my best to explain basic over view as i saw it
Your home screen is always in memory as it is considered a frontend app.
When you open a app it keeps the home screen in memory.
Now say this app is gmail. gmail opens and you open a link that opens a web browser. Now Say you decide to open a game but you have no more memory.
Android decides which app can be killed to make room for the new app.
since gmail was opened prior to the browser it is considered the oldest.
Android creates a saved state as you will. But only of the position in which you were at in gmail. It can then auto populate that info at a later time.
Then once you are done with the game If you press back it will bring up the web browser. If you press back again it will access that gmail saved state to bring you back to that point in the app killing off the game as its un-needed.
http://developer.android.com/guide/topics/fundamentals.html
this link is more info. they can explain it better than i could
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I'm not running out off memory, it's that memory is getting really low. That's the part I don't understand. I have a gig of system memory, where is it all going? How do I get down to 100 meg when I have nothing running? I'm trying to research android memory usage so I can figure this out. I know that since I started keeping my memory above 200... zero screen freezes. That speaks volumes to me. I wish I understood more.
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I need a little help getting android to load on my hd2, im using energy rom but everytime I try to flash froyo it freezes in lock screen our language selection screen
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I'm not running out off memory, it's that memory is getting really low. That's the part I don't understand. I have a gig of system memory, where is it all going? How do I get down to 100 meg when I have nothing running? I'm trying to research android memory usage so I can figure this out. I know that since I started keeping my memory above 200... zero screen freezes. That speaks volumes to me. I wish I understood more.
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ROM 1GB;
RAM 576MB
Rom where winmo is stored.
Ram where apps get loaded and part of android is running.
Do you have auto rotation turned off?
I experience very few freezes if any with it turned off
there is a toggle on the power widget when I do need it.
poulosjr said:
I need a little help getting android to load on my hd2, im using energy rom but everytime I try to flash froyo it freezes in lock screen our language selection screen
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Personally I am using radio 2.11 and energy rom as I always have. i have no problems whats so ever so try another winmo rom.
hazard99 said:
ROM 1GB;
RAM 576MB
Rom where winmo is stored.
Ram where apps get loaded and part of android is running.
Do you have auto rotation turned off?
I experience very few freezes if any with it turned off
there is a toggle on the power widget when I do need it.
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So do apps run in the 576MB RAM memory space?
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So do apps run in the 576MB RAM memory space?
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yes but you wont get that full amount due to other things running
What good is internal memory on Droid X ? How can you access it and what can you put on there ?
It's faster than SD Card memory because it's built into the phone and doesn't have to pass data as far. You have 8 gigs of it built into the Droid X. I bet you could access it with the Android SDK methods, but I'm not sure if you can put it into mass storage mode like your SD Card.
TL;DR Internal memory faster than SD Card
The internal memory is the default location that all your apps are installed to if you do not choose to use app2sd to run them off of your sd card.
Sent from my DROIDX using XDA App
amathophobia said:
The internal memory is the default location that all your apps are installed to if you do not choose to use app2sd to run them off of your sd card.
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are you sure ? haven't people been complaining of low memory space for apps, like only a few hundred MB.
I have tons of apps and don't use apps2sd for any of them (it gives me nothing but problems). Haven't had a single problem with not enough space.
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are you sure ? haven't people been complaining of low memory space for apps, like only a few hundred MB.
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there's RAM and there's internal memory. RAM is where the ACTIVE apps run, not where they are stored. There is only a few hundred megs of RAM, but thats fine. Internal task killer will start killing them if you managed to drop it below a certain level from running too many apps at once i.e. autokiller settings <> ATK.
What i wish is that apps with libraries could store the library in the internal rather than in the SDcard, it would help with clutter on the SDcard, and probably access faster too...
Ok Apps2SD don't work with 2.1, too bad!
But I have an idea that maybe can work?
Back few years ago I was using Palm software that run software from SD; really not directly from SD as these install soft on demand in RAM.These where very succefull software or add to regular launcher
All stuff that didnt need to stay on RAM (for background purpose) could go to SD like games or others.
The software was not in RAM but a shortcut was and call the SD launcher, launcher install app in RAM and when exiting application the launcher send back data and app to SD or just data and uninstall app.
It was of course a delay for running and exiting but who cares!
Is there anything like that for Android?
Thank you