t8585 and us tmobile hd2 - HD2 General

hi, this is actually mi first post here, but i am a little confuse. i have a t-mobile US hd2 and i'm looking for some accessories on ebay but some of them say that are for the t8585 but not compatible for the t-mobile us hd2. is there a real difference between them? i might think some software can be difference but are they different is size?
is this for real?

There is a size difference between the U.S. and the International versions. The U.S. version is larger and the phone jack is a bit different. The send key is green and the end key is red on the U.S. version. The keys on the International version are all white. The internal flash memory is 1024mb and the ram is 576mb on the U.S. version, while on the International version they are 512mb and 512 mb. The roms and radios are NOT interchangable between the two, but apps and themes generally are.

thanks freeincolorado

the size difference is fairly small (1.5mm), but it's enough to keep cases from fitting or aligning properly (like the camera lens and bottom ports, etc). From what I've seen, even the battery cover on the back is slightly different between the two, just fyi (US version has a small foam insert, T8585 version doesn't for some reason)

I got a digitizer off eBay t8585 they said it was for tmobile but when i got it it was the soder on one.
wall taking my hd2 apart I damaged the lcd ribincable.
IF i get a international lcd with the solder on connection for the international digitizer will it work with the tmobile hd2.
I put my two digitizers together to see if there is a size difference. I cant see one so maybe if I use both international lcd and digitizer together it will work in the tmobile version?

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t8585 and us tmobile hd2

hi, this is actually mi first post here, but i am a little confuse. i have a t-mobile US hd2 and i'm looking for some accessories on ebay but some of them say that are for the t8585 but not compatible for the t-mobile us hd2. is there a real difference between them? i might think some software can be difference but are they different is size?
is this for real?
The international HD2 and the TMOUS versions are different and depending on the accessory, may not be compatible. It has to do with the shape of the phone. So cases, vehicle mounts, etc. might not work. I have purchased several items for my TMOUS HD2 that i had to modify in order to make it fit. Again, depending on the item it may be impossible to make it fit right. If the seller says it's not compatable with US version, I would take their word for it.
So to answer your question simply: Yes. This is for real.
Thanks Faelok,
i almost buy a car mount even seeing it says not for US HD2, i guess i have to read all the info when buying accessories for it thanks again
That is the difference
http://pocketnow.com/thought/t-mobile-hd2-vs-htc-hd2-comparison

T-Mobile Digitizer + LCD Broken, which one to get?

Hi.
I have a T-Mobile HD2 with:
Digitizer Broken (solderless)
LCD Broken (P/N 60H00300-00P)
Do you think there is any possibility to use a complete assembly with :
Digitizer (soldered)
LCD (P/N 60H00295-00P)
Is it compatible? Any length difference?
Best Regards.
No one knows?
US T-Mobile housing is 1.5mm longer than HTC T8585.
But maybe if you change entire lcd+digitizer assembly it will fit.
I ask this because of a shortage on US T-Mobile HD2 lcd...
I have a broken lcd on my tmous hd2 and am looking for a new lcd. The one that came out of my phone is the solderless one with the small pin connector you just clamp down. The lcd part # on it is 83h00242-05. And the touch screen part # is 60h00300-00p. Ive looked on ebay for just the lcd but they all seem to be for the one you have to solder, part # 60h00295 i think. If anyone finds the solderless lcd one could you post a link on here to it?
i came across this
http://cgi.ebay.com/T-MOBILE-HTC-HD...N-INTEGRATED-/170528488088?pt=PDA_Accessories
its for the full lcd and digitizer assembled
my glass is broken so im getting that one
http://cgi.ebay.com/OEM-HTC-HD2-T85...izer-New-USA-/220634364402?pt=PDA_Accessories
i know changing it is going to be a nightmare but im gona give it a shot, hopefully i wont make it worse lol
My LCD screeb broken yesterday. I have tmobile HTC HD2.But my touchscreen works fine.
Do I need to purchase this one
http://cgi.ebay.com/OEM-HTC-HD2-T85...220634364402?pt=PDA_Accessories#ht_2748wt_698
or
http://cgi.ebay.com/T-MOBILE-HTC-HD...70528488088?pt=PDA_Accessories#ht_1845wt_1014
Please let me know.
Thanks
If it is an HTC (non US T-Mobile HD2) then you should get this:
http://cgi.ebay.com/HTC-Touch-HD2-H...Accessories&hash=item43a1246e01#ht_750wt_1139
It is soldered.
You should RE CHECK by disassembling and check the part numbers. You are going to need to disassemble anyways.
Just to clarify, there are only 2 digitizers available, USA version and non-USA version. If you buy the Digitizer/LCD combo (already together), it doesn't matter which you get although the USA version will say T-Mobile on top. Both 60H00300-00P and 60H00295-00P are the same other than the way the digitizer connects to the LCD (soldered- 295, connected- 300). Hope this helps.
ookba said:
Just to clarify, there are only 2 digitizers available, USA version and non-USA version. If you buy the Digitizer/LCD combo (already together), it doesn't matter which you get although the USA version will say T-Mobile on top. Both 60H00300-00P and 60H00295-00P are the same other than the way the digitizer connects to the LCD (soldered- 295, connected- 300). Hope this helps.
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You are right, but I heard that NON US model's digitizer is 2mm shorter that US one.
That would mean that the whole housing is different and probably won't fit.
I've only used US T-Mobile version of HD2 so can't confirm this.
It will be very nice to know if a US version would work with a NON US motherboard and vice versa.
Best Regards.
MGA2009 said:
You are right, but I heard that NON US model's digitizer is 2mm shorter that US one.
That would mean that the whole housing is different and probably won't fit.
I've only used US T-Mobile version of HD2 so can't confirm this.
It will be very nice to know if a US version would work with a NON US motherboard and vice versa.
Best Regards.
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I can confirm that the 60H00300-00P part # USA TMO digitizer is identical to the non-US one, 60H00295-00P in length, width, and size. The only difference is the way the LCD and digitizer mount to each other. You cannot use a TMO digitizer with a non-US LCD and vice versa. I had an opportunity to compare a T8585 (US) and a T9193 (non-US) and the only differences are in the housing and motherboard. The MB on the T8585 (US) is a tiny bit bigger, thats why TMO had to use a slightly larger housing. Everything else is the same (except for frequencies, etc.). I am currently using a 60H00300-00P (US) in my T9193 (non-US) without any problems at all.
ookba said:
I can confirm that the 60H00300-00P part # USA TMO digitizer is identical to the non-US one, 60H00295-00P in length, width, and size. The only difference is the way the LCD and digitizer mount to each other. You cannot use a TMO digitizer with a non-US LCD and vice versa. I had an opportunity to compare a T8585 (US) and a T9193 (non-US) and the only differences are in the housing and motherboard. The MB on the T8585 (US) is a tiny bit bigger, thats why TMO had to use a slightly larger housing. Everything else is the same (except for frequencies, etc.). I am currently using a 60H00300-00P (US) in my T9193 (non-US) without any problems at all.
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Nice, so as long as they are a matching pair it doesn't matter, you can put a matching LCD+Digitizer from a non-TMO HD 2 into a TMO HD 2 and vice versa?
Steeltippin said:
Nice, so as long as they are a matching pair it doesn't matter, you can put a matching LCD+Digitizer from a non-TMO HD 2 into a TMO HD 2 and vice versa?
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Anyone tried if the Digitizer/LCD combo (pre-assembled) are really interchangeable???
I have a HD2 (EU-version) where the LCD+digitizer+touch glass is broken. I will buy a digitizer/LCD combo because that will be easier, and as far as I can understand there are two versions;
one combo with the 60H00300-00P (US, non-soldered), and
one combo with the 60H00295-00P (non-US, soldered).
I have a US-version combo at hand, but I need to be absolute sure if the US-version combo fits and work with my EU-phone before I buy.
So, again; anyone really tried if it works??
Any news on this matter? Thank you.
You can find the screen+LCD on ebay for about $70, but the quarlity is so so easy to break when you make the change.
as said before by ookba it should work.
ookba said:
I can confirm that the 60H00300-00P part # USA TMO digitizer is identical to the non-US one, 60H00295-00P in length, width, and size. The only difference is the way the LCD and digitizer mount to each other. You cannot use a TMO digitizer with a non-US LCD and vice versa. I had an opportunity to compare a T8585 (US) and a T9193 (non-US) and the only differences are in the housing and motherboard. The MB on the T8585 (US) is a tiny bit bigger, thats why TMO had to use a slightly larger housing. Everything else is the same (except for frequencies, etc.). I am currently using a 60H00300-00P (US) in my T9193 (non-US) without any problems at all.
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Mandrakeroot said:
Anyone tried if the Digitizer/LCD combo (pre-assembled) are really interchangeable???
I have a HD2 (EU-version) where the LCD+digitizer+touch glass is broken. I will buy a digitizer/LCD combo because that will be easier, and as far as I can understand there are two versions;
one combo with the 60H00300-00P (US, non-soldered), and
one combo with the 60H00295-00P (non-US, soldered).
I have a US-version combo at hand, but I need to be absolute sure if the US-version combo fits and work with my EU-phone before I buy.
So, again; anyone really tried if it works??
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Can you confirm that too?
I'm going to buy the US lcd + touchscreen for my EU HD2, to avoid soldering... hope it's gonna work
Get the combo because I have been seeing alot of videos on the soldered ones and the touchscreen stop working, so stick to the combo
klhd said:
as said before by ookba it should work.
Can you confirm that too?
I'm going to buy the US lcd + touchscreen for my EU HD2, to avoid soldering... hope it's gonna work
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Don't worry, it'll work for sure:
the 2 versions of combo(EU & US) are interchangeable with no reserve!
Hi everyone
I have broke lcd on my htc hd2 and now i want to order a new one.
But I have problem, I dont know wich lcd is good for my htc hd2.
My P/N of lcd is 83H00294-01 and 60H00300-00P US-512 version (not T-mobile).
I have look on ebay and find this replacment for lcd, but I dont know is this lcd good. (w w w.ebay.com/itm/Replacement-LCD-Display-Screen-For-HTC-HD2-T8585-/190677003886?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2c653c] 2e6e#ht_1122wt_1396)
Please help me.
Thanks, and sorry for my bad English.

Help understanding "T8585"

Ok, I'm guessing Leo and Tmobile HD2's are built the same?
I'm looking to buy a case that accommodates the extendeded battery. Came across this site that details a fit for the "T8585". Is that the Leo version or USA? Or are they one in the same?
Link.
http://www.mugen-power-batteries.co...uipped-with-extended-hli-t8585xl-battery.html
Thanks.
The T8585 is a european leo. From my understanding the TMOUS ones are very slightly longer but i could be wrong on that. The actual battery covers are identical afaik but i would email the supplier and ask them if it is suitable. If they have their wits about them i would suspect they know.
TmoUSA has a longer screen to accommodate the logo. How much longer? like 1mm (?)...hardly noticeable.

[Q] Case differences for T-Mobile version

Hi everyone,
as you see from my profile I'm an italian guy. I recently came to USA to visit my girlfriend and I found on the Marketplace an T-Mobile HD2 for very cheap which definitively is in very bad conditions planning to fix it completely and making it a new phone.
So I found a new housing here which I guess would be for a T8585.
I heard T-Mobile model has a 2mm difference somewhere... so would that be a problem?
Cnn.cn has two different housings for the T8585 and the T-Mobile version... so.. I wouldn't want to pay three times the price! Do you know any better place to find it for cheaper?
Also... do you know if the digitizer is melted with the screen or if it is splitted from that?
I also heard there are two different digitizer connectors from the T8585 and the T-Mobile version... is the T-Mobile version the one which requires soldering :S?

mainboard: "international" put => TMOUS ??

Simple question please: can a mainboard from "international" (or "european") type of HD2 be put into TMOUS (T-Moble US) HD2? (as a replacement, the original MB seems to have overheat hangups issue - but its much easier and cheaper to buy "international" version)
ictimai said:
Simple question please: can a mainboard from "international" (or "european") type of HD2 be put into TMOUS (T-Moble US) HD2? (as a replacement, the original MB seems to have overheat hangups issue - but its much easier and cheaper to buy "international" version)
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Theoretically, it is possible (some did it already), but don't expect to fit perfectly!
bib*oops said:
Theoretically, it is possible (some did it already), but don't expect to fit perfectly!
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How to understand this "imperfection"?
People say, the screen might be of a different kind (solderred vs. pinned). Is it true?
ictimai said:
How to understand this "imperfection"?
People say, the screen might be of a different kind (solderred vs. pinned). Is it true?
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It doesn't matter the screen(as long as you don't replace digitizer, which are 2 versions:soldered or with insert pin!) in order to replace motherboard!
So, the does the digitizer' kind be matched with the mainboard or is it pin-inserted or soldered to a screen (and screen to a mainboard)?
Digi to LCD & as all LCD to mainboard ribbons are same of no issue.
Main issue of International mainboard in TMOUS is board is shorter & micro usb & headphone jack fall short in the TMOUS housing ...
Get a TMOUS board as waste of effort with an international board ...
Mister B said:
Main issue of International mainboard in TMOUS is board is shorter & micro usb & headphone jack fall short in the TMOUS housing ...
Get a TMOUS board as waste of effort with an international board ...
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Thank you! However may I ask you yet again about these micro usb & headphone jack which fall short - would they appear as inaccessible at all from outside of housing?
If not please, suggest where could I buy tmous mainboard from, as here in Europe there are just 'international' versions present on all auction sites...
To make micro usb & headset jack fit you need to modify connector plug moldings by cutting them back so plugs will go in further without restriction.
I would make the effort to find a good TMOUS board, must be a few TMOUS devices with dead or cracked digi for spares.
Put in a wanted request here on xda.
Other option is go to a international version housing to match board.
Would only buy auction site if seller has 100% feedback & a good reason for have a spare board as too easy for people to lie & sell faulty parts on eBay & reading a few threads on here & my personal inbox messages confirms the auction issues ...
Mister B said:
Other option is go to a international version housing to match board.
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I've got an offer to replace international MB for 100$ (with already MB provied). The guy guarantees it fits perfectly to the TMOUS phone, and he has small repair shop in my town (so he's fully accountable) and swears he's got fixed many such devices already. So how is it possible compared to your explanation? (Is he going to replace housing too maybe?)
Plz, tell me which part of an international case should be placed together with MB? It is definitelly easier and cheaper to buy such a set (euMB+case) than TMoUS mainbard itself...
Presumably it is not necessary to change the whole housing, is it?
rear cover & probably centre chassis (check chassis part supplies & see if parts numbered different).
Can't really see a small shop having dealt with that many TMOUS models for international board swap.
It can & does work but without the ports altered or case changed it not the best.
Personally I would aim at getting an international model with broken or dead digi & swap your led/digi to it & job done plus you got a lot of parts spare or for sale to recoup maybe 50% of the outlay.
Mister B said:
Personally I would aim at getting an international model with broken or dead digi & swap your led/digi to it & job done plus you got a lot of parts spare or for sale to recoup maybe 50% of the outlay.
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Just have bought international MB (+ central chasis) from Polish auction site for as much as 38$ (with guarantee of return if not helped) - haven't pondered too much as it seems great bargain. However now I see this bargain rather akward to consummate :/ Please, give me some advice what to do with the whole set: TMoUS phone with faulty MB + international MB with central chasis? Would you advise to return this MB to the seller?
Get an international back cover & you should be good to go.
BTW, what about firmware/ROM? Where does it sit? In a chip on MB? Or maybe the flash memory module stays somewhere else so the MB change will leave it unaffected...
So, is it necessary to flash the international version of ROM before first run after the MB change? There are so many warnings what distaster would happen if someone confused ROM versions (international vs. US)...
Of course there are ROMs good for both versions, e.g. Paranoid, but presently I've got TMOUS WM 6.5.5 flashed (to accurately test hardware under 'model' sw conditions)
All on mainboard
So, I have replaced the MB, the international version put into TMoUS without any other parts replacements! The TMoUS housing indeed is slighty longer but just by so minute difference (half of millimeter) it poses no problem at all, and both plugs (USB & jack) fit firmly! (The only glitch was I had to trimm millimeter of plastics inside as USB connector didn't fit in, but it was so trifle as probabely even not worth to mention...)
So, WHAT A DIFFERENCE now! That TMoUS MB was terribly thermally worn off!
Please, give some suggestion what to do now - with e.g. that faulty TMoUS MB? To throw away or is it still possible to recover anything valuable from it?
Please, tell me also if it is worth to protect somehow the "new" MB to prevent it from this thermal tearing off (and how to make it)?

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