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My son woke me up in the morning i bent over to look at the time knocking my HD2 all of 2 foot onto my laminate flooring..... screen has completely shattered!! this is one fragile device. Thankfully its insured through Vodafone I took it into the store today, but there doubtfull it can be fixed as it also chipped a piece of casing off as well. Now I'm a bit concerned they have no stock of the HD2 . I'll be gutted if thats the case.
Another reason why I wont be having kids...
Hi, I rang Vodafone today and I think they have a few replacement unitsleft, as they said they'd bee shipping me out one in the next few days... see my thread here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=611939
I hope its actually a HD2 they are shipping me and not another phone, fingers crossed!!
The direct replacement number they gave me was 08448540430 but I'm not sure if thats the right one for insurance but you can try it. Let me know how you get on
Sounds promising, thanks! If I get another i'll be wrapping it in cotton wool...
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Sounds promising, thanks! If I get another i'll be wrapping it in cotton wool...
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If I could I'd cover it in adamantium...
This is quite worrying. I mean sure dropping a phone would not be considered "normal use" but surely it should have been taken into account when designing the unit that phones do get dropped?
My Touch Pro has hit the deck on more than one occassion and it's unscathed!! I'm not the careless type either, I look after my tech but these things happen. It's worrying that a 2ft drop onto laminate could cause the screen to completely shatter.
Strange, dropped mine 6 feet onto a tile floor yesterday, i was like nooooooooooooo!, picked it up, still perfect, must have been lucky.
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This is quite worrying. I mean sure dropping a phone would not be considered "normal use" but surely it should have been taken into account when designing the unit that phones do get dropped?
My Touch Pro has hit the deck on more than one occassion and it's unscathed!! I'm not the careless type either, I look after my tech but these things happen. It's worrying that a 2ft drop onto laminate could cause the screen to completely shatter.
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Your Touch Pro also happens to have a plastic screen. Sounds stupid comparing it to a thin glass screen, doesn't it? You make it sounds like it's the coming of the apocalypse because the HD2 is the first of its kind to have screen cracked when dropped. Take a look at iphones, droids, hero, etc...
People here freaked out because it's probably the first capacitive screen they've owned and continue using it like it's plastic like past HTC phones. Be extra careful. Period.
You were extremely fortunate, either that or I was extremely unfortunate. Ive been reading about the HD2 apparently theres alot of internal stress so although the screen is pretty much scratch proof its not so good on when struck. Very annoying as Ive been very protective of this phone
its actually pretty tough
in my drunken state on new years eve I dropped my phone from shoulder height onto tar! some little dents on the bottom but 100% fine! Impressed...
stefanfuchsuk said:
in my drunken state on new years eve I dropped my phone from shoulder height onto tar! some little dents on the bottom but 100% fine! Impressed...
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Being intoxicated whilst using this phone is what I fear the most...
lude219 said:
Your Touch Pro also happens to have a plastic screen. Sounds stupid comparing it to a thin glass screen, doesn't it? You make it sounds like it's the coming of the apocalypse because the HD2 is the first of its kind to have screen cracked when dropped. Take a look at iphones, droids, hero, etc...
People here freaked out because it's probably the first capacitive screen they've owned and continue using it like it's plastic like past HTC phones. Be extra careful. Period.
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I'm not saying your wrong, but things like "drops" should be taken into account at the design stage of a device such as a phone.
Your car keys are not meant to be dropped, but they'd survive wouldnt they? A mobile phone, by it's very nature, is prone to a drop or two over it's lifetime...
Your reply is very condescending and poorly thought out.
Seems like the phone is a bit like an egg. Squeeze an egg from the top and it won't break. Squeeze from the middle however...! So some drop the phone and it shocks the "middle" while others drop it and it shocks the "top". Some are lucky, some are not. Hey ho, them's the breaks! (No pun intended)
HTC HD2 very fragil
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My son woke me up in the morning i bent over to look at the time knocking my HD2 all of 2 foot onto my laminate flooring..... screen has completely shattered!! this is one fragile device. Thankfully its insured through Vodafone I took it into the store today, but there doubtfull it can be fixed as it also chipped a piece of casing off as well. Now I'm a bit concerned they have no stock of the HD2 . I'll be gutted if thats the case.
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I recall at list 7 users in this forum having broken screen and so on, so it seems to be taken in consideration >> a hard protector box be highly recommended.
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in my drunken state on new years eve I dropped my phone from shoulder height onto tar! some little dents on the bottom but 100% fine! Impressed...
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My son woke me up in the morning i bent over to look at the time knocking my HD2 all of 2 foot onto my laminate flooring..... screen has completely shattered!! this is one fragile device. Thankfully its insured through Vodafone I took it into the store today, but there doubtfull it can be fixed as it also chipped a piece of casing off as well. Now I'm a bit concerned they have no stock of the HD2 . I'll be gutted if thats the case.
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Seriously. I let it drop like every god damned day from the 24th to the 1rst, and it's still pristine. no scratches. I even let it drop from my height (6 feet 2) while drunk and playing with a girl who tried to snap it out of my hands, my heart skipped a beat, but when I took it up, again, no scratches. I was like, God exists!
But neverthless, I ordered three different cases. I don't want to run out of luck.
Dropped mine from 1,5 meter on a stone floor, nothing happend....
Thank god!
I've dropped my HD2 more than 6 times already (usually from holding height, so about 4 feet) sometimes with the leather case sometimes without. It is still in perfect condition. Come to think about it, it think it always landed on the ends so that may prove the egg theory. I do not have it insured so I'm not gonna go prove that theory just yet
It really must depend the way it lands, but trust me 2 foot (bedside cabinet height) was enough to write off my new love lol. Or maybe someone didnt build mine and the other poor bast*rds phones right... maybe forgot to do up a few screws haha, but anyway all I'll say is be damned careful and take out that insurance it really is worth it.
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It really must depend the way it lands, but trust me 2 foot (bedside cabinet height) was enough to write off my new love lol. Or maybe someone didnt build mine and the other poor bast*rds phones right... maybe forgot to do up a few screws haha, but anyway all I'll say is be damned careful and take out that insurance it really is worth it.
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Friday afternoon unit maybe!
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I'm not saying your wrong, but things like "drops" should be taken into account at the design stage of a device such as a phone.
Your car keys are not meant to be dropped, but they'd survive wouldnt they? A mobile phone, by it's very nature, is prone to a drop or two over it's lifetime...
Your reply is very condescending and poorly thought out.
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Condescending? Poorly thought out? Like how you're comparing dropping your brick of a phone with plastic screen to a thin one with GLASS screen? LOL. I'm not even going to vilify that judging by your lack of common sense and logic.
Of course it's taken into account during the construction of the phone. Some people enjoy the finer things in life, and that means sacrificing some structural integrity for form factor. I'm sure being as naive as you are, you probably didn't think about that. You see, Syphon, the HD2 is like a Ferrari F430 comparing to your Civic of a Touch Pro. It has carbon fiber exterior mated with 490 ponies strapped to the back, and like any other cars out there, it has been crash-tested. It's expensive because of lightweight material, because of exquisite engine design, and because of engineering. All this to ensure that the driver gets the most thrill and satisfaction out of driving it. These cars are well maintained and pampered due to the common sense that these owners have and to be able to understand that these toys are expensive and you'd take the utmost precaution to enjoy them. Now the majority of the people who own these cars are smart, successful people who take pride in taking care of their valuables...the kind of stuff that you lack.
Your Civic, on the other hand, are a dime a dozen...and are the stuff that junkyards are made of. They're cheap, easily to get thrown around and can be easily fixed. The fact of the matter is, your civic is nothing more but a rolling scrap metal that attracts door dings, bird poo, and a variety of things that happen to a car with as much of a presence as a piece of rock. In case you're still clueless, your touch pro should never be compared to an HD2. It's a giant slab of plastic that doubles as a door stop.
Now, I was going to stop but you made another grand of a post. In case you haven't noticed, most car key FOBs are PLASTIC. Yep. Quite a shocker huh? You know what else is a shocker? It doesn't have a screen. All it is, is a small PCB board with a round battery attached to it. Though I wouldnt expect you to understand that based on your inane inability to understand what plastic is and what glass is. I suggest having a running start and smashing your head through your car window so you'll know what the difference is.
....I should aso tell you to put on a helmet to protect that smart brain of yours.
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i made this video of me putting my evo in a running sink for 3 min and still working. any idea why????
hax...
I have no idea how that worked, but if you add some salt in that water, I don't think it'll live
Do you believe in magic?
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Are you serious?
Swyped from my Evo 4G
Running water over phones is not known to break them as much as you might think. Drop it in a pool though and its a goner.
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Running water over phones is not known to break them as much as you might think. Drop it in a pool though and its a goner.
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Did you watch the video?
It was submerged in a full sink, he might as well have had it in a pool.
Dude, why the **** would you put your EVO in water in the first place?
Anyone else notice that it was stuck on the "HTC EVO 4G" Boot screen for almost 4 minutes?
Was this a real phone, or one of the retail displays?
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i made this video of me putting my evo in a running sink for 3 min and still working. any idea why????
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From your reaction on the video, you were expecting it to stop working and ruin the phone. Why would you want to do this in the first place? It reminds me of all those kids out there that intentionally break every toy they get just to break it. Do you break every PED you get?
I call BS. The water would run into the speaker slot at the top and through the cracks, and the screen doesn't change the entire time.
Im pretty sure it was stuck on the boot screen, that's probably why he's getting a new one but...... last time i checked the boot screen is white with black letters. Could be mistaken though
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Did you watch the video?
It was submerged in a full sink, he might as well have had it in a pool.
Dude, why the **** would you put your EVO in water in the first place?
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did YOU watch the video? he clearly says at the beginning that he's returning the phone back to sprint and wants to kill it before he does.
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did YOU watch the video? he clearly says at the beginning that he's returning the phone back to sprint and wants to kill it before he does.
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But that's a terrible way to kill it. The water damage sticker on the inside will change color, and that could potentially void his warranty. I'm not 100% sure about that, but there are a hundred better ways to break your phone than water damage.
yeah, he probably doesn't know that there's a water damage sticker. tough luck on his part if he actually does break his phone and they won't replace it!
I thought it was a display/dummy phone until he turned the light off. That is unless he rigged up a led inside a dummy phone, which is feasible.
Low voltage electronics are usually fine when submerged and then dried out. Ive had my kids put hugely expensive digital cameras into the dog bowls, toilets etc. My friend Chris just dumped his iPhone4 into a swimming pool, besides a little fog on the screen and a set off moisture sticker its fine.
actually I'm getting my new phone on monday.
Try it again only put a bunch of salt in the water. That will finish it.
I had an electronics class in high-school where our teacher put all kinds of electronics in different fluids. All of the lower voltage dc stuff would work until you put salt in the water. And a lot of times would still work whenever you dry it off.
On a side note. Yes there are pink water damage stickers but am I the only one that removes them with an exacto knife before using the phone? I just hide them in a safe place in my filing cabinet and then if I do have to send my phone in for warranty I just pop them back in and they never know. Just watch out. There is usually one on the outside casing and one of the battery and maybe even one inside the phones casing.
I don't do this to be deceitful honestly. I do it because the humidity is so bad in southern Illinois that all of my phones water stickers would turn flat pink and look like they had been submerged even when they never even saw water. A lot of times just setting my phone down in the bathroom while taking a shower would set them off as well, from all the steam.
From my experience the EVOs are in no way water resistant. I placed a few drops of water on the screen to apply the invisible shield and the water went right through the sides and inside the screen. Who makes a $500 phone without a sealed glass on top?
Anyways, I was extremely disappointed but the guys at Sprint were nice enough to get me a free replacement.
Why is his EVO 4G boot screen black with white text? Mine is the other way around (white with black text)?!
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Why is his EVO 4G boot screen black with white text? Mine is the other way around (white with black text)?!
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=714177
This thread is for all the people who cry about the plastic on the new Nexus S phone.
First of all, my sister has a Galaxy S phone i9000 to be precise, and it's been a pain to watch her drop the phone again and again... slippery fingers I guess.. lol The phone has a few scratches but that's all.
I don't even wanna know what would happen to my N1 if I did that to it. Every picture I saw of the N1 dropped was either a broken screen or the housing was damaged to a point it had to be replaced. Because of ONE drop!! I'm thankfull I've never dropped it since I have it on launch day.
So please tell me what's a better solution the Samsung plastic that actualy protects your phone or an aluminium case that will get all banged up?
I vote for the plastic. It sucks because it's glossy, if google fixes this and gives us a matt + some gloss accents would really look cool.
All the drops of my Nexus, and no signs yet. Hope that it stays this way.
Useless thread, if you ask me. Zero basis for any actual comparison.
Jack_R1 said:
All the drops of my Nexus, and no signs yet. Hope that it stays this way.
Useless thread, if you ask me. Zero basis for any actual comparison.
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I have both... Give me (enough) money and I will do a drop test.
I dropped mine (from chest height, onto tarmac) on it's top left corner. Just has a small stratch there.
I've dropped my Nexus from chest height onto a stone floor, one 2-3 occasions now. Clearly I'm lucky, but there's no sign of external damage.
My N1 fell when I was hanging my mothers curtain, about 2 meters high....not a scratch. Dropped it more than once and that baby just refuses to die. BEST PHONE EVER.
This could have easily been discussed in the many other threads about plastic Galaxy's.
The only thing that should be dropped is this thread.
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This could have easily been discussed in the many other threads about plastic Galaxy's.
The only thing that should be dropped is this thread.
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So why post in it? Sorry that would make too much sense to not post in a thread you dont approve of.
OP clearly you haven't seen this video.
Dropped mine plenty of times. Not a scratch.
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I was walking with too many things in my hand and the N1 decided to slip out mid stride and bounce across the pavement...2 small scratches top left corner...
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the point is, the aluminum case has much less "give" then plastic... so our screens wont shatter as easy
The Nexus S is going to be great... We shouldn't get discourage by some shiny plastic... a phone case can easy fix that.
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The Nexus S is going to be great... We shouldn't get discourage by some shiny plastic... a phone case can easy fix that.
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most of us dont use phone cases is the point... it adds bulk to what most of us consider a "perfect sized" phone...
Fail thread , is FAIL
Galaxy S design & materials are awesome, That "plastic" you mean , make this device better than others for weight and elegance
I've dropped my n1 many times...running, getting out of car, drunkenness...still looks brand spanking new
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Yea I've dropped mine several times and I only have 1 tiny scratch on the back battery cover. The rest of the phone looks brand new. I'm using it completely naked after watching the screen torture tests.
I love it. The matte finish really helps protect the phone. We had several Samsung Blackjacks with the same matte finish and when we sold them YEARS later they still looked brand new out of the box.
looks like all the people posted here were lucky in their drop "tests"
but we have people posing on forums:
- that they just sat down with N1 in pocket and it cracked the screen.
- first drop totaly warped the body
- screen cracks from first drops etc.
Again I say I hope I don't drop it once, even though I have the Otterbox commuter series case that feels quite strong.
But I still belive that even though aluminium bodies do have more strenght, they have a higher chance to break something inside the phone due to full shock the phone recieves from the drop, unlike plastic that bends and crumbles on hit and absorbs much of the force from falling.
Aluminium seem it's harder to replace, specialy the unibody designs that HTC does. It's harder to make, harder to service, etc... by that probably the service costs go up to.
Plastic bodies and a snap to take a apart, make and replace.
what do you all think about this? Am I wrong?
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The Nexus S is going to be great... We shouldn't get discourage by some shiny plastic... a phone case can easy fix that.
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That's what Jobs said...
First of all, I'm a big guy (just under 300lbs.). Yesterday I caught my toe as I was going up on my porch and started stumbling. It's a narrow porch and I did not have enough distance to catch my balance. So, I turned to my side and took a dive off of the two foot high porch into the ground. Yes, I'm still sore.
The unfortunate thing is, I wear my phone on my belt on that side and I landed squarely on it.
Once I checked myself out for injuries, I thought "My phone! I just paid $400 for it and I bet I smashed it!".
I look at it and there are no visible signs of damage. Then I try to turn it on. Nothing. So, the whole time I'm getting cleaned up from the incident, I'm thinking "What could be wrong?" Whatever it was, I was fully intending on trying to fix it myself. Once I was ready for work I decided to take the battery out and look under it for hidden damage. It looked fine. I popped the battery back in and tried to turn it on. Bingo! It works fine. I guess the jarring very briefly disconnected the battery which locked it up.
Just like the half dozen other HTC phones I've owned, this is one tough phone.
Maybe you just thought you landed squarely on it. Maybe something else like the cased itself absorbed most of the shock. But it def is great that your phone isnt broken.
I landed on my side once on concrete and broke a canon camera that was in my pocket lol.
It has to do with the way the force is transferred through it, the proportion of the weight that it was subjected to... damaging blows are not necessarily high force hits, but high CONCENTRATION hits onto surfaces that have no give, like being dropped on a corner onto concrete. Being smushed between a big guy's belt and the lawn is not a real test of durability.
I'm sorry if I gave the impression that I considered this some kind of torture test. I understand the physics of the fall. But, from the way my side hurt where the phone was crushed into it, it definitely took a licking and kept on ticking.
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Who is this? Bill Nye the Science Guy?
Whaaa?
Who is this? Is this Bill Nye "The Science Guy"?
Utorrent76 said:
Who is this? Bill Nye the Science Guy?
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Lmfao!
Yeah, it does depend on how the shock was delivered from your holster to the phone. If you're a big guy and have a lot of gut on you (no offense), then your body also absorbed some of the shock from falling, and you're gut held the phone in place. It's hard to explain over text, being a biology major, I know somewhat of physics and how it works on the human body.
I just switched from an iPhone 3gs with a plastic back and I was actually afraid to hold it too tightly in case I broke it! G2 is a huge improvement for sure.. It's nice not to have a fragile phone that isn't a ten year old Nokia.
That's good to know. I've dropped mine 5 times (wood floor/carpet), and there's only a scratch on the battery cover from the 1st drop.
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Dropped mine today for the 1st time since..Got it on launch..Not a scratch or dent..Fell face flat on tile floor..No damage at all Had a friend who dropped his iphone on carpet and broke the screen!!
Dude I want to kill myself right now. Got two 1cm scratches on the middle bottom of my xoom. Not noticeable when the screen is on but jesus christ. It was with a ****en water bottle no metal.
I'm dying inside, need help. Anyway of minimizing this?
I bought this from verizon the day of release, is it possible to return and cancel contract? This sounds rediculous but I would love to restart the whole purchase process......****KKKKK
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Hey that rhymes
Small particles which are harder than gorilla glass can stick to either the glass surface or the plastic surface of your water bottle. Accidentally rub them into the glass with the water bottle and you can definitely scratch the glass.
Gorilla glass absolutely requires a screen protector.
As for the return, most places just make sure the serial number matches and the parts are in the box (cables, charger, etc). Never had anyone look closely at the display. Though if they saw it, I'm sure they would reject the return.
any suggestions? ive thought about saying there is a defect in the software/hardware...to do an exchange..or purchasing one off contacting and switching?!
help me people..HELP MEE
If it's not noticeable when you're using it I'm sure you'll forget about it. No need to lie.
Calm down and take a few days to think about if you really care that much.
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Small particles which are harder than gorilla glass can stick to either the glass surface or the plastic surface of your water bottle. Accidentally rub them into the glass with the water bottle and you can definitely scratch the glass.
Gorilla glass absolutely requires a screen protector.
As for the return, most places just make sure the serial number matches and the parts are in the box (cables, charger, etc). Never had anyone look closely at the display. Though if they saw it, I'm sure they would reject the return.
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I don't know about that. My droid X doesn't have a scratch on it and I've given it a couple of knocks!
z06mike said:
I don't know about that. My droid X doesn't have a scratch on it and I've given it a couple of knocks!
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Exactly, I've dropped my evo countless times and it's perfect still.
You scratched it dude.... sorry for the bad luck but don't cheat the store.
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You scratched it dude.... sorry for the bad luck but don't cheat the store.
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+1 to this.
**** happens, then you die. It doesn't impact use/performance so what's the big deal, now you won't be as upset when you do it again, and you know you're going to do it again!
yeah man but i have had my nexus one for over a year with no screen, no scratches. and thats with No gorilla glass.
this thing with its 'gorilla glass' was surrounded by a freaken poland spring bottle and got scratched?!
anyways, im going to the store, wiping everything...saying there is a horrible glitch where my accounts get dropped/no notifications/random reboots and hopefully the technician will buy it. oh, and ill spread abunch of oily finger prints to ward off the scratches...whatever the case..i did **** up but jesus, thats just wierd..wish me luck with my scumbaggery
Plastic or glass?
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Plastic or glass?
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This, if it were a glass water bottle it's your own fault. Glass + glass == scratch no matter what.
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I don't know about that. My droid X doesn't have a scratch on it and I've given it a couple of knocks!
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And there are other people who have scratched such screens. It can happen. So why bother risking it when a screen protector can be had for under $10? Well maybe under $20 for a tablet.
i agree with the others: don't take it back to the store just because of 2 tiny scratches. With time, you will forget it. If it's not really visible when using, why stress? It's hard for you to go to sleep knowing that your xoom is not being used with a scratch on it?
I remember when I scratched the hell out of my 42-inch plasma tv when I was moving a few years ago. I was so upset, especially at the guy who let the door close on the screen. Once the tv was turned on, couldn't see the scratch, so I stopped worrying and my stress levels went down dramatically
dudeimgeorge said:
Dude I want to kill myself right now. Got two 1cm scratches on the middle bottom of my xoom. Not noticeable when the screen is on but jesus christ. It was with a ****en water bottle no metal.
I'm dying inside, need help. Anyway of minimizing this?
I bought this from verizon the day of release, is it possible to return and cancel contract? This sounds rediculous but I would love to restart the whole purchase process......****KKKKK
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Whatever you try be careful as you may cause more damage. Personally, I would try a small amount of toothpaste on a microfiber cloth. This method completely removed a scratch on my Epic 4G (Gorilla glass).
I'm actually pretty surprised by this.
My Samsung Vibrant has gorilla glass and has taken a serious pounding from not even caring about the keys in my pocket to actually falling face down on the sidewalk.
This is why I got insurance on my Xoom from BB.
it was a PLASTIC poland spring bottle.
im so sick to my stomach over the purchase amount and how fast it scratched. its disheartning...i mean, i have a nexus S now too (dropped 524 for it) and it doesnt have anything...
granted..i left the bottle in my duffle bag with my xoom, but seriously...nothing else in there..i guess i am freaking out but i dont get it.
i know its a low life move but im within my 14days return policy and maybe i can get away with making up false claims of software issues without the technician being too penetrating in operating it...and if so..ill walk away, head in lap, and accept the scratches.
ill post the damn pictures of it right now
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yeah man but i have had my nexus one for over a year with no screen, no scratches. and thats with No gorilla glass.
this thing with its 'gorilla glass' was surrounded by a freaken poland spring bottle and got scratched?!
anyways, im going to the store, wiping everything...saying there is a horrible glitch where my accounts get dropped/no notifications/random reboots and hopefully the technician will buy it. oh, and ill spread abunch of oily finger prints to ward off the scratches...whatever the case..i did **** up but jesus, thats just wierd..wish me luck with my scumbaggery
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Good luck man, I'd be rright there with you if that happened to me. It is your own idiocracy for not having a screen protector on I left the plastin on that said where the volume and whatnot on my xoom for two days till I got a screen protector.
But either way I'm rooting for you, let me know how things turn out.
And for the haters I know its his fault and it really don't effect anything significant, but can you honestly say you wouldn't try the same thing? I mean its not like he had it in a bag with a handful of coins, it was a water bottle, imagine that being you. Trying to be all healthy by drinking water only for it to turn on you and chomp up your new multi hundred dollar device's screen.
Now the real story, you left it in a duffel bag unprotected? I did that once with my kindle and the screen cracked. What do you expect will happen?