[POLL]Amon Ra or Clockwork - EVO 4G General

Was wondering which recovery everyone likes and why. Been using Ra since my G1 and I love it. (searched around for one of these and didnt see it. Mods delete if there was already one of these polls)

Amon all the way
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So...since this brought up...I see that some ROMs don't work with some recoveries? Is that correct? I swear it seems some ROMs only work with clockwork...but then I read all over that clockwork is buggy...or doesn't seem to work for everyone...or something.
I was thinking Amon Ra was the way to go.
I'll follow the answers to this one as well.

sablesurfer said:
So...since this brought up...I see that some ROMs don't work with some recoveries? Is that correct? I swear it seems some ROMs only work with clockwork...but then I read all over that clockwork is buggy...or doesn't seem to work for everyone...or something.
I was thinking Amon Ra was the way to go.
I'll follow the answers to this one as well.
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Thats true. As far as I know, there have been issues with Clockwork not wiping correctly(I know someone like that)and causing bootloops after flashing. I dont know of any roms that dont work with Ra, but I believe Rom Manager will only work with Clockwork.

Clockwork since it is compatible with ROM Manager.

Clockwork since it has a back option in the menus. It's also updated frequently.

I've been running clock on the evo. I tried putting amon in but I guess I'm too stupid cause when I tried following the directions, I borked the phone good and it took me awhile to get everything back into working order. I could flash it now with rom manager but I'm kinda afraid after the last fiasco.
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I've found that using both have worked for me the best. If I'm running Fresh Rom I will use Amon Ra's but I'll use clockwork for cm6. Its so easy to jump back and forth between recoveries using rom manager its never really an issue. Either way both developers are awesome and their recoveries both have good things to offer

anyway to switch back to Amon? not feelin the Clockwork im too use to it...

seriousblack25 said:
anyway to switch back to Amon? not feelin the Clockwork im too use to it...
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Use ROM Manager to "flash alternate recovery."

another poll
dglowe343 said:
Was wondering which recovery everyone likes and why.
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i was wondering the same thing exactly!! So a few days ago i asked the question on the Cyanogen forums... I got a lot of good responses and summarized the comments on the first post... check it out here: http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/2562-best-recovery-for-evo-to-use-with-cm6/

I haven't had one single problem with clockwork recovery.

I like the recovery originally included with toastcfl's root found here. it's very similar to Armon's (don't know if things have to be signed or not), but you use the power button to go back instead of the double-press volume (which I find annoying to do).
I just don't like clockwork as much as the other two, that's just the way it is.

Using Amon Ra because I think it's the only recovery fully compatible with DamageControl.
Not sure of the actual "differences" between it and Clockwork - can anyone clarify?

oblivion0 said:
Using Amon Ra because I think it's the only recovery fully compatible with DamageControl.
Not sure of the actual "differences" between it and Clockwork - can anyone clarify?
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I'm using clockwork with Damage Control I've had zero problems so far.

I hate Amon recovery... always have to move my ROM downloads to the root of the SD card... forget it 90% of the time and have to reboot to fix it... and that doesn't work so well if I borked my ROM.
I use Clockwork and have zero issues unless I'm trying to autoflash theme updates and such so I have to do those manually. Otherwise no complaints. And no signing issues with Clockwork either.

Amon_RA's recovery FTW!

Well, since rooting 24 hours ago, I've been using Clockwork via recovery boot (not through ROM Manager) and it's worked flawlessly so far. Backed up my rooted stock setup, flashed Fresh, DC, CM6, and then back to Fresh, wiped between every flash, and I've had no problems. Even flashed some Fresh Tweaks in the recovery boot. I actually flashed Amon Ra to see how I liked it . . . and I didn't. Mostly just navigating was a pain with the volume up+down thing, everything else seems like a wash. My only question is whether the Dalvik cache is really being wiped by Clockwork, since it takes half a second to complete when I select the option. I'm going to test it in a few minutes here.
Going to give Baked Snack a run for a while, we'll see how that holds up.

I have wondered that for awhile, silver. It may sound stupid but at least a confirmation in the log messages below would be nice.
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herbthehammer said:
I have wondered that for awhile, silver. It may sound stupid but at least a confirmation in the log messages below would be nice.
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Okay, I decided to test. Fired up ADB and booted into recovery from Android. Mounted /data and looked inside /data/dalvik-cache. There was a long list of .dex files. Then I unmounted /data and used the Clockwork menu to wipe the Dalvik-cache (this option is located under the "advanced" menu, NOT just the "wipe cache" option). Re-mounted /data and looked inside . . . and the dalvik-cache directory was gone. It took *slightly* longer than normal when I actually hit the button to wipe it (more like .7 seconds instead of .5), but it does appear that my Clockwork v2.5.0.1 is wiping dalvik just fine. And, of course, when I rebooted back into Android (rooted .6 stock at the moment) it took a long time to boot at the 4G screen, as the cache was being rebuilt. Once I was back in, I checked the /data directory again and dalvik-cache was back and full of .dex files again.
So there. No more speculating, just science.
And if you're ever worried about it, you can just use ADB to wipe the dalvik-cache yourself:
Code:
adb shell
mount /data
rm -rf /data/dalvik-cache/*
Then you can use the Clockwork menu to wipe everything else and flash your ROM. These three commands actually just delete everything inside the dalvik-cache directory, whereas Clockwork appears to remove the directory entirely. Doesn't really matter either way, the system will replace the directory if it gets deleted.
Mmm . . . terminal code.

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[q] omg need help. Mytouch 4g stuck on mytouch 4g screen.

Hello,
I need some help. I decided to try out a mod while at work today. i tried it out and didnt like it too much and try to restore my last back up that i did before the change. the phone cut off then back on and was stuck on the mytouch 4g screen and has been this way for about 3 hours.i took the battery out and i went to the hboot screen and tried a factory reset and then the rom manager opened up (v3.0.0.5). from there i went to reboot now and it goes back to the my touch screen. idk what to do and i need help. im new to the droid and am unfamiliar with the terms. can anyone help PLEASE. if possible to gtalk me at j.d.louisy.
thisisjay said:
Hello,
I need some help. I decided to try out a mod while at work today. i tried it out and didnt like it too much and try to restore my last back up that i did before the change. the phone cut off then back on and was stuck on the mytouch 4g screen and has been this way for about 3 hours.i took the battery out and i went to the hboot screen and tried a factory reset and then the rom manager opened up (v3.0.0.5). from there i went to reboot now and it goes back to the my touch screen. idk what to do and i need help. im new to the droid and am unfamiliar with the terms. can anyone help PLEASE. if possible to gtalk me at j.d.louisy.
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calm down take a breather us XDA users got your back, OK take out the battery and put it back in then go to the Hboot ( hold power and volume down) then once you get to the Hboot Settings use volume down to get to RECOVERY (i think its the third one) then once you get into Clockwork Recovery scroll down to (Backup and Restore) click then press (Restore) and then choose your Restore file it usually Year-month-day hope i helped you donate pls if i did
BE SURE TO KEEP THE CHARGER IN!!
p.s. if it turns off while its restoring even with the charger in let it boot into recovery mode and let it charge up a bit
incase you still need help gtalk me [email protected]
and p.s. CWM 3.0.0.5 is for gingerbread only
Certain roms require certain versions of clockworkmod. I don't know if this also applies to restoring from backups, though. Which type of rom did you flash?
If he flashed the add on 3.0.0.5 has ext3/ext4 support. Should be able to flash froyo and TB Rome.
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3.0.0.6 supports ext3/ex4 3.0.0.5 only does Gingerbread
Edit: I'm being a dumbass yea what he said was right I'm overly tired and I have to explain to her why I was being a dumbass and trying to flash through fastboot but what I don't understand is why its still stuck at the boot screen
thisisjay said:
Hello,
I need some help. I decided to try out a mod while at work today. i tried it out and didnt like it too much and try to restore my last back up that i did before the change. the phone cut off then back on and was stuck on the mytouch 4g screen and has been this way for about 3 hours.i took the battery out and i went to the hboot screen and tried a factory reset and then the rom manager opened up (v3.0.0.5). from there i went to reboot now and it goes back to the my touch screen. idk what to do and i need help. im new to the droid and am unfamiliar with the terms. can anyone help PLEASE. if possible to gtalk me at j.d.louisy.
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Three options
Option one: (easiest)
Since you flashed 3.0.0.5 you must flash a Gingerbread ROM, (Which you can download from here ). Make sure to flash the G/apps after you flash the ROM.
Option two:
you can flash a 2.x.x.x Recovery image, or flash 3.0.0.6 via script or manually do it via the HBoot.
Option three:
Flash the PD15IMG and start over from ground one.
thank you so much for the advice and help. i could bang my head on the wall for trying to load gorillasens. i shouldve left it alone. once i get home from work i will give it a try again.
thisisjay said:
thank you so much for the advice and help. i could bang my head on the wall for trying to load gorillasens. i shouldve left it alone. once i get home from work i will give it a try again.
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Ah. i think i see what happened. You rooted your phone. downloaded Clockwork Rom Manager, then flashed a recovery image (which was version 3.x). then tried to flash a 2.2 ROM.
Okay. so what.....
a common mistake but one that can be avoided by doing a little research.
Clockwork's 3.0.0.5 recovery image is only compatible with Gingerbread (2.3) based ROMs.
Clockwork's 2.x recovery image are only compatible with FroYo (2.2) based ROMs.
gorilla is 2.2 So it's not cannot be flashed by the recovery image you are using.
if that is correct then the text in the recovery image should be orange in color. If that is correct.....If i were in your shoes i'd load CM7 w/ the GAPPS > download CWRM from the markert > scroll to the bottom (all clockwork recoveries) and flash the newest 2.x. then boot into recovery / make sure the text is GREEN, not ORANGE, wipe then flash your GorillaSense.
Can you cite a source, because I've also heard people claim that Clockwork 3 is backwards compatible, but there was no evidence either way...?
How would you go about switching from a 2.2 ROM to a 2.3 ROM? Do you have to backup with CWM 2, then install CWM 3 to install the new ROM? Doesn't make a lot of sense to me...?
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Can you cite a source, because I've also heard people claim that Clockwork 3 is backwards compatible, but there was no evidence either way...?
How would you go about switching from a 2.2 ROM to a 2.3 ROM? Do you have to backup with CWM 2, then install CWM 3 to install the new ROM? Doesn't make a lot of sense to me...?
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3.0.0.5 is not backwards compatible, which is the official 3.x that you download via the Application. 3.0.0.6 which is "beta" flashed via the HBoot is backwards compatible.
It's seriously jacked if you ask me.
to go from lets say CM6 > CM7 one would do a nandroid backup of CM6, then go to CWRM flash the 3.0.0.5 recovery image > boot into recovery and flash the CM7.
now to get back to a 2.2 ROM you have to scroll to the bottom of CWRM app's and flash a 2.x version of the recovery then do your nandroid restore, flash the 2.2 recovery image.
From what i've heard once 3.0.0.6 is finished you can use that for everything.
What a pain...
I'm real sketchy about the Clockwork 3 recoveries for the Nexus, because they've been screwing up partitions (mine included). Has there been any problems with Clockwork 3 on the Glacier?
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danger-rat said:
What a pain...
I'm real sketchy about the Clockwork 3 recoveries for the Nexus, because they've been screwing up partitions (mine included). Has there been any problems with Clockwork 3 on the Glacier?
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I haven't had any problems with mine. The only problem that was noted was the 3.0.0.5 prior to the official release wouldn't do Nandroid Backups directly from the application. Some were reporting it work work from the recovery image, but mine never did.
and i have a feeling the reason it's screwing with Partitions is this (CM7/CW3.x) is a Ext4 set up. And CM6/CW2.x is a Ext3 set up.
but since it went official the only problem i've seen is people flashing the the wrong recovery for the wrong ROM. People are flashing 3.x because 3 is higher than 2 so they think it's an upgrade and have no clue on the who/what/when/wheres and whys of what its for.
The partition thing is different for the Nexus, because they are cross compatible to a certain degree. I rolled back to CWM 2, but I can still flash CM7 no probs...
It's interesting to note the differences between the two platforms though (Nexus vs Glacier).
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The partition thing is different for the Nexus, because they are cross compatible to a certain degree. I rolled back to CWM 2, but I can still flash CM7 no probs...
It's interesting to note the differences between the two platforms though (Nexus vs Glacier).
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Yea between Google's way of doing thing and HTC, but i'm sure the chip-set has something to do with that. and with the sexy nexi only having 512Mb of memory the factor of tricking the phone to use the SD card has something to do with it i'm sure.
i have the 3.x recovery and i can flash iceglacier which is a 2.2 rom with out any issues. what i can't do is restore my backup from my other phone onto this replacement i just got. i made the backup with the 3.x recovery but i just keep getting stuck at the mytouch bootup screen... gonna try flashing the 2.x recovery and see if it lets me do the restore.
hey there everyone. just giving an update.......phone is still messed up. we tried putting gingerbread on and no go....tried flashing to PD15IMG and starting over. no go, it kept saying that "main version older <bad>" the phone wont go past the htc screen. im going on day 3 and no phone. *sigh* open for more advice. should i just buy another phone?
OMG OMG OMG i fixed it.......thank you for this post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=957457 i re downloaded the PD(insert file name) and it worked. i broke down in tears. thank you guys sooooo much.
I used the .zip file to restore my mytouch, but now it wont go into Hboot.
I got the same problem and is fixed thanx to this link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=957457
now I have to root the phone again
Thank you
Thank goodness someone had this problem
I just ran into the same issue. whew good thing xda is here!!! Thanks fellas

[Q] MT4G iced glacier; clockwork mod recovery problem

hey guys im having a big and really annoying problem i cant fix hopin in can get some help...
i have the iced glacier 1.1.6 with clockwork 3.0.0.5(rom managerv3.0.1.0). i want to make a backup nanDroid.. so i do and it completes and everythings fine... until i to the restoring part. after it "successfully" restores(yes, i did wipe cache, wipe dalvik, and even wiped eveything in everyorder possible. i restart my phone and it freezes on the mytouch 4g bootup logo. everytime. no matter what. it does let me reinstall the fresh ice glacier rom...
note: when i wipe the dalvik, its almost instantaneous wipe, like it doesnt do it?
there is an error about e:/ not mounted (sd-ext) or something close to that. but still says it worked.
things ive tried...
renaming the file.
moved the file.
reformatted SD.
wipe data...etc twice in a row to make sure it wiped.
any ideas?
You have to revert back to older Recovery 2.5.1.2 or you can install the new 3.0.0.6 as normal CWM won't able to handle it. This same issue has been covered many times. Read the quote below to better understand if you still have problem well then post back ill help.
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you are using the wrong version of Recovery to install the new kernel. I'm guessing #2, because it's very common for people to assume a higher number is better, and use CWM Recovery 3.0.0.5 with Froyo-based ROMs and hose things up really well.
Restoration options, if you are using CWM 3.0.0.5:
a) Restore from the Nandroid backup you made before overlaying your kernel. Oh, yeah, you can't, you didn't make one, otherwise you'd have already done that and wouldn't have posted....
b) Flash the appropriate CWM Recovery (2.5.1.2 for Froyo-based ROMs) using adb from your PC. Reboot into it, find the kernel you wanted to use, and reinstall it.
c) Install a Gingerbread-based ROM, such as CM7.
Pick a,b, or c. If you have any specific questions, please ask.
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i did the 2.5.1.2 first but it didnt work so i thought id try the newest one...but 3.0.0.6? where do i get 3.0.0.6? its not in rom manager. ( i really hate rom manager it never works for me...) and ive never done adb? or anything on my pc. everything ive done is on my phone...
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i did the 2.5.1.2 first but it didnt work so i thought id try the newest one...but 3.0.0.6? where do i get 3.0.0.6? its not in rom manager. ( i really hate rom manager it never works for me...) and ive never done adb? or anything on my pc. everything ive done is on my phone...
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Sorry I was asleep but if you still looking for the solution.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=952433
Go to option's thread and follow his instructions on howto install 3.0.0.6 as it works also.

[Q] Can't boot... have been meticulous... Help please?

This may "wreak of non-search" and I am sorry if it does. While I have searched, the overall panic that one experiences when you suspect a brick and cannot afford to have a brick.... (that, plus a friend purchased this Glacier for me to help me get back on my feet with respect to career/employment, etc., so a good amount of guilt is thrown into this mix)... all prevents me from rationally and methodically searching thread after thread to figure out why I am having the problem I am having.
I will be as precise as possible.
1. Back in Feb., I perm rooted with visionary... then about 2 weeks later, I read that this root was not true radio s=off perm root, so I used adb and the scripts to perm root again--using the wiki as a guide. Saved a copy of the partition 7 bin on my laptop as an added precaution. Also, BTW, I never flashed the engineering HBOOT. It didn't seem essential to do so... PLUS, in almost every guide it warned that this was the most likely chance for one to f*ck up and brick, so in the interest of erring on the side of caution, I skipped that.
2. I kept stock ROM for several weeks after that... just enjoying root and freezing bloatware with Ti, and doing other root-enabled mods... nothing too involved.
3. About 1 week ago, I finally decided to flash my ROM. I had Rom Manager (paid version), and had flashed ClockworkMod Recovery 3.0.0.5. Further, as an FYI, I had/have numerous nandroid backups on the SD, plus several Ti backups of apps/data... even sync'd this with dropbox, so I can access those now (which are not of any help obviously).
4. I first flashed a CM7 nightly build--wiped data and cache, and as far as I know followed the guides precisely. All was well...new ROM worked alright... some bugs, but it was nice to have the new features, etc.. And of course the mental gratification of having 2.3.3 (GB) instead of 2.2.1 (boring old froyo). I updated the nightly maybe 2 times... in each case, I simply flashed without backing up those ROMS or wiping data/cache as they didn't seem necessary, plus I still had all my stock rom nandroid backups on the SD.
5. Then Last night, RC4 came out. I flashed this the same way... no wipe. This morning... after using it for awhile, I started to get forced close problems on numerous apps... and the one that was most bothersome was my Market app... So after trying to Fix Permissions using RM to no avail.... I decided to restore the last nandroid backup of my stock (rooted) ROM. All seemed well while the restore was progressing... I was powered by AC (as always). But when the phone rebooted at the end of the restore, it stayed at the MyTouch splash for a long time... longer than I thought was appropriate (~20 minutes). So, I took out the battery since nothing else responded, and tried to boot into recovery. WHen I tried this, I got 3 quick vibrate alerts, and a blank screen, with the LED flashing every second in an ominous disconcerting way. (!!) Again, I removed battery, then tried to start phone again normally. Same problem.... It won't go past the MyTouch splash.
Since I cannot get into the phone... I am of course panicked... I have ADB on my laptop if needed, but I really am at a loss as to why this happened, and what I can do at this point....
Please, please advise. My utmost appreciation and sincerest gratitude in advance for any assistance.
Thank you!!!
syntropic
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5. Then Last night, RC4 came out. I flashed this the same way... no wipe. This morning... after using it for awhile, I started to get forced close problems on numerous apps... and the one that was most bothersome was my Market app... So after trying to Fix Permissions using RM to no avail.... I decided to restore the last nandroid backup of my stock (rooted) ROM. All seemed well while the restore was progressing... I was powered by AC (as always). But when the phone rebooted at the end of the restore, it stayed at the MyTouch splash for a long time... longer than I thought was appropriate (~20 minutes). So, I took out the battery since nothing else responded, and tried to boot into recovery. WHen I tried this, I got 3 quick vibrate alerts, and a blank screen, with the LED flashing every second in an ominous disconcerting way. (!!) Again, I removed battery, then tried to start phone again normally. Same problem.... It won't go past the MyTouch splash.
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Can you boot in to the bootloader?pull the battery put it in then hold the power button down and the volume rocker down?
should come up to a white screen.
take the battery out and let the phone sit a little bit. this has worked for others to get into hboot then recovery. Also if you get it going INSTALL THE ENG HBOOT! Can really help you with soft brick among other things.
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Can you boot in to the bootloader?pull the battery put it in then hold the power button down and the volume rocker down?
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No... that is what I meant when I said tried to "boot into recovery". And I got the 3 vibrate alerts and a blank screen, and nothing........
take the battery out and let the phone sit a little bit. this has worked for others to get into hboot then recovery. Also if you get it going INSTALL THE ENG HBOOT! Can really help you with soft brick among other things.
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Will do... Thank you. DO you have any idea of where I f*cked up here??
Could be a number of things. Like wipe didn't go through completely , bad download, or just random crap out like a few others. Even flashing with the wrong cwr version can less to your issues. Lol like I said could be a number of things. Sorry I couldn't be more helpful.
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OK... Good news. I am in now in CWR. BTW, this may have been something that was my mistake to begin with. When I originally tried to boot into Bootloader, I held the volume button UP. I just tried both up and down volume hold while powering on. When I hold volume up, I get 3 vibrate alerts and nothing. When I hold volume down, I go straight into the bootloader/HBOOT.
OK.. So as said, I am now in CWR. What is the best course of action here...?? Can I try to restore my nandroid backup (maybe a different one) of my old rooted stock ROM? Should I do a factory reset (prefer not to, but I submit to the advice of my more skilled android fans)?
Just a point in the right direction, and I think we can put this thread to bed. Thanks a million just for holding my hand while I fixed this....
I would wipe EVERYTHING but the sd card where your backup is, then attemp restoring whatever rom you had last. 2.2 and 2.3 use different versions of clock work and don't remember which 3.0.0.5 went with. So use that last one that booted and then updat clock work to 3.0.0.6 as it will flash both 2.2 and 2.3
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syntropic said:
OK... Good news. I am in now in CWR. BTW, this may have been something that was my mistake to begin with. When I originally tried to boot into Bootloader, I held the volume button UP. I just tried both up and down volume hold while powering on. When I hold volume up, I get 3 vibrate alerts and nothing. When I hold volume down, I go straight into the bootloader/HBOOT.
OK.. So as said, I am now in CWR. What is the best course of action here...?? Can I try to restore my nandroid backup (maybe a different one) of my old rooted stock ROM? Should I do a factory reset (prefer not to, but I submit to the advice of my more skilled android fans)?
Just a point in the right direction, and I think we can put this thread to bed. Thanks a million just for holding my hand while I fixed this....
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What recovery are you using? 3.0.0.5? and you're trying to flash a 2.2 ROM. Thats where the problem lies. See my post regarding this. It's in my signature, the green one.
I would wipe EVERYTHING but the sd card where your backup is, then attemp restoring whatever rom you had last. 2.2 and 2.3 use different versions of clock work and don't remember which 3.0.0.5 went with. So use that last one that booted and then updat clock work to 3.0.0.6 as it will flash both 2.2 and 2.3
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OK... and neidlinger... I think I read that post before and didn't quite get the full understanding of it.... I grasp now that you can only restore a 2.2 with a 3.0.0.4 CWR.
EDIT: MUSTKll20... Well, you were right... This is not ROM specific. I tried Re-Flashing RC3, which previously worked fine. Now, since I have CWModRec 3.0.0.5, I need to use a 2.3 ROM.... So I thought I would start with this idea. So, I guess, I need to get whatever is corrupt deleted... So my only question thus remains: How do I wipe everything except the SD from within CWR?
And now that there seems to be a 3.0.0.6 which solves this mismatch trap, why would it not be simpler just to reflash the CM7 RC4, then update CWMod, then just see if my original force close issue is even still occurring, and if so, then I would flash/install eng. HBOOT, "Wipe Everything except SD" (btw, does CW have a selection for that? Is that factory reset? Or will a factory reset wipe my SD.... because obviously that would be bad)
I don't really now how to wipe the internal... Except if I had a terminal and used dd, but as much as I am comfortable with Linux, I still do not understand how the SD and the ROM are separated and why, and how, and what shell commands do what to each....
AND THANKS AGAIN SO MUCH YOU GUYS FOR TAKING TIME TO ANSWER MY CRISIS-INFUSED QUESTIONS!
syntropic said:
OK... and neidlinger... I think I read that post before and didn't quite get the full understanding of it.... I grasp now that you can only restore a 2.2 with a 3.0.0.4 CWR.
And now that there seems to be a 3.0.0.6 which solves this mismatch trap, why would it not be simpler just to reflash the CM7 RC4, then update CWMod, then just see if my original force close issue is even still occurring, and if so, then I would flash/install eng. HBOOT, "Wipe Everything except SD" (btw, does CW have a selection for that? Is that factory reset? Or will a factory reset wipe my SD.... because obviously that would be bad)
I don't really now how to wipe the internal... Except if I had a terminal and used dd, but as much as I am comfortable with Linux, I still do not understand how the SD and the ROM are separated and why, and how, and what shell commands do what to each....
AND THANKS AGAIN SO MUCH YOU GUYS FOR TAKING TIME TO ANSWER MY CRISIS-INFUSED QUESTIONS!
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You can flash CM7RC4, and install 3.0.0.6. That's pretty much the only way you can fix it..
and android phone have a method of using a section of the SD card for their memory banks. I'm not really sure how it works either, but it does. You can wipe the internal w/o wiping the SDcard.
Wiping the phone from with in the recovery image will not touch the SDcard, it will only wipe the internal. You can format the SD card from the Recovery Image, but i'll leave that dog sleep so we do not it accidentally.
last little clean-up question.
Sorry to bump this... last LAST question...
Mustkll20: I realized that you were correct to suggest to wipe everything except the SD... Something is corrupt.
But I am not real sure exactly how to wipe EVERYTHING except the SD, from within CW recovery... Since that is the only mode I have available to me. Once I wipe, I will reinstall CM RC3, then update Clockworkmod Recovery to 3.0.0.6, and then try and download RC4 again using another method, and re-flashing.
I would trial and error this, but do not want to wipe the SD.
Thanks guys... seriously.
You can flash CM7RC4, and install 3.0.0.6. That's pretty much the only way you can fix it..
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I didn't see your reply... ummm. and I do need to wipe.. Because I have tried to re-flash both RC3 and RC4, and I get what must be a "bootloop": During the CM splash, it stops and then reboots---over and over. It never did that before.... so my problem is something else...
I don't know what else there is besides the SD and the ROM, but whatever it is, I need to delete it. So should I do a factory reset???
Also, are you sure you are holding the volume down and pressing power to boot into recovery? The result you described is what happens when you hold the volume up and press power.
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Also, are you sure you are holding the volume down and pressing power to boot into recovery? The result you described is what happens when you hold the volume up and press power.
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Yep... I know the thread is not for thrillseekers (i.e., its boring), but I mention that I discovered this phenomenon... so I really wasn't in all that bad a spot to begin with.
I still need to figure out how to fix my current problem.... all CM RCs (I can only flash 2.3 ROMs because of CW 3.0.0.5) go into what I guess is a bootloop. In other words, they do not ever boot, just crash and restart. And the RC3 ROM I used worked fine before this... so something else is causing this problem. I need to wipe everything I guess, but I just don't know how... without touching the SD card and from within Clockwork Recovery.
Ok. Go into recovery.
1. Wipe data/factory reset
2. wipe cache partition
Both of these are on the main screen.
Go to advanced
3. Wipe Davlik Cache
Go back to main screen
Go into mounts and storage
4. format boot
5. format system
Try all of that. It will not touch your sd card. After doing this flash the ROM again. Keep us updated and good luck.
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Ok. Go into recovery.
{...}
Try all of that. It will not touch your sd card. After doing this flash the ROM again. Keep us updated and good luck.
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Thank you for the concise and thorough response!!!!!!! Id thank you, but have used up my allotment. get ya tommorow!!
And it worked! Thank you!
But.... ummm.... there is no market app. I would think the CM ROM would have this, but apparently it doesn't. I need to install Ti, etc. to restore all my apps.
Does anyone have a download link or at least a version # that is appropriate?
syntropic said:
And it worked! Thank you!
But.... ummm.... there is no market app. I would think the CM ROM would have this, but apparently it doesn't. I need to install Ti, etc. to restore all my apps.
Does anyone have a download link or at least a version # that is appropriate?
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You can thank the Google c&d order for that. Go to cyanogenmod.com. there is a link there for the gapps zip.
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OK... I thoght Gapps.zip was just Google Docs. Luckily, I had that on my SD card from one of my many ROM downloads. I see why they had to make it separate.
But I am installing it, and everything is great... And I learned a lot too... Which can only mean trouble.
Thanks!

Gingerbread 3.0

Where can I find the download link for the new gb.
Dinc
I'm not sure what you're asking for. Honeycomb 3.0 (which is not available for the Incredible) or Gingerbread with Sense 3.0?
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I think gingerbread with sense 3.0. Sorry.
Dinc
There are several roms with what you are looking for in the development forum.
Oh ok. And do these install the same way. I'm still using the old clockwork recovery.
Dinc
Yes they should install like normal. Check the OP's for the ROM though. All require hboot .92 and CWM 3.0.0.x.
I recommend giving JoelZ's kingdm rewind 3d a go. very smooth
Yeah I'm still using the old cwm and I have never messed with cwm3 so how do I install the new newest cwm.
Dinc
You can use rom manager or you can flash the recovery manually in hboot. Files at www.dougpiston.com
RE: Multiple wipes
http://www.cvpcs.org/blog/2011-06-05/time_to_wipe_data/cache
Not trying to start a big debate, just pointing out that wiping multiple times isn't doing anything but adding more time to your flashing process. Hopefully this helps.
I only wipe everything once, flash vr superwipe, then flash rom. Works fine on all.
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k_nivesout said:
Not trying to start a big debate, just pointing out that wiping multiple times isn't doing anything but adding more time to your flashing process. Hopefully this helps.
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You obviously need to wipe three times and then flash the ROM twice. And reboot about 4 times. One each is not enough. Pull your battery a couple of times as well.
Is installing the new cwm the same as flashing a radio.
Dinc
If you take the time to read what I linked, it explains everything. When you're telling your recovery to wipe, it is a routine run within code. Doing a secondary wipe or even a third is just running the same exact command again. Logically, why would CWM run the same exact command differently, necessitating multiple wipes to get the same result?
There's no "randomness" built into the recovery that would result in the command not being run, or run differently, when you select it.
Its not like a physical action, where the more you wipe, the "cleaner" it gets. Again, it is a routine run within code, and it is not variable or random.
If there was any perceived benefit to the wiping procedure that you mentioned, I'm willing to bet that its due to wiping the /system and /boot partitions, which isn't done when you wipe data/factory reset and wipe cache in the main menu. This is something that should be, and usually is, included in the rom's updater script, but may be forgotten by the dev. Some people have mentioned that recovery version 3.0.0.8 does not work well with AMOLED incredibles. I can't speak for that myself, but in the event that there is a problem, the resolution would be using the 3.0.0.7 recovery, not wiping multiple times.
And I don't think you're correct in assuming that "all the devs" recommend the multiple wipe approach, I think you'll see that plenty do not, including the cyanogen dev who wrote the article I linked to (BTW, he is the one that got CM7 on the Droid X, a phone with a locked bootloader, so I'm assuming he might know what he's talking about.)
That is all..
snapper915 said:
Is installing the new cwm the same as flashing a radio.
Dinc
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They are totally different, CWM is a recovery, radios are well, radios. They are flashed the same way though (in bootloader).
Awesome. Thanks. I don't have to rename any thing.
Dinc
cvbcbcmv said:
you mean like PB31IMG.zip? No, nothing like that.
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Sweet. Thanks for everyone's help.
Dinc

ClockWorkMod Recovery Problem

Hi, I used the paid version of ClockWorkMod Recovery to backup, then download the 'Cyclonic Rom'. Well, it rebooted to a 'Cyclonic Rom' startup screen (animated lettering) - but that's it. I'm wary to unplug the battery if it's actually flashing, but this has been going on for 20 minutes or more. Can I pull the battery and see what happens? How long does a new ROM take to install, this is my first one. Thanks.
BTW: These CAPTHCA's are getting tough! This will be the 4th try!
fixed it
I unplugged the battery and did a factory reset/format in ClockWorkMod. I rebooted and all seems well so far.
20 minutes is a looong time for Cyclonic to boot. Is it still working ok? As far as CW goes, I only use Rom Manager to downlod what I want/need. When it comes to flashing I wipe everything manually and flash from recovery. I don't trust the app. But thats me.
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+1 to that. I always use the same Method for Flashing Roms ( The one linked in my Sig ) . Clear everything Manually. I try to never deviate from that. Reason being, after Flashing literally hundreds of times I've found it to be the most reliable way to Flash a Rom. Meaning the least amount of possibilities for issues later on down the road .
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Hi, I used the paid version of ClockWorkMod Recovery to backup, then download the 'Cyclonic Rom'. Well, it rebooted to a 'Cyclonic Rom' startup screen (animated lettering) - but that's it. I'm wary to unplug the battery if it's actually flashing, but this has been going on for 20 minutes or more. Can I pull the battery and see what happens? How long does a new ROM take to install, this is my first one. Thanks.
BTW: These CAPTHCA's are getting tough! This will be the 4th try!
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Flash newsense.
And don't forget to wipe dalvik.
I have been searching (as in using the 'search' function) for a solution or answer to this, but couldn't find anything. This seemed to be the best thread to dig up instead of starting a new one.
Within Clockworkmod, whenever I try to go into recovery (either trying to 'reboot into recovery' or installing a ROM from SD card), it always throws me into Android System Recovery 3e instead of CWM recovery. Of course the stock recovery doesn't recognize my downloaded ROM.
I've also noticed that trying to update a ROM in HBOOT via a new PG06IMG.zip file on SD root is not working, except to wipe all my system and apps data, and then returning me back to rooted 2.2. HBOOT seems to read the new zip file fine, but when I reboot nothing has changed.
I've read wiki and lots of other stuff, but I can't seem to find an answer except that MAYBE that I need a new kernel first??? Okay, let the flaming begin.
jdjohn said:
I have been searching (as in using the 'search' function) for a solution or answer to this, but couldn't find anything. This seemed to be the best thread to dig up instead of starting a new one.
Within Clockworkmod, whenever I try to go into recovery (either trying to 'reboot into recovery' or installing a ROM from SD card), it always throws me into Android System Recovery 3e instead of CWM recovery. Of course the stock recovery doesn't recognize my downloaded ROM.
I've also noticed that trying to update a ROM in HBOOT via a new PG06IMG.zip file on SD root is not working, except to wipe all my system and apps data, and then returning me back to rooted 2.2. HBOOT seems to read the new zip file fine, but when I reboot nothing has changed.
I've read wiki and lots of other stuff, but I can't seem to find an answer except that MAYBE that I need a new kernel first??? Okay, let the flaming begin.
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You need to flash recovery first, it is the first option in ROM Manager. You can't update a ROM with PG06IMG.zip, nor can you do it in the bootloader. Flash the recovery, wipe everything (data, cache, dalvik cache, system, sd-ext) then flash a ROM.
Did you get this sorted?
bilgerryan said:
You need to flash recovery first, it is the first option in ROM Manager. You can't update a ROM with PG06IMG.zip, nor can you do it in the bootloader. Flash the recovery, wipe everything (data, cache, dalvik cache, system, sd-ext) then flash a ROM.
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Chad The Pathfinder said:
Did you get this sorted?
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No, still having trouble. I have flashed ClockworkMod Recovery (version 5.0.2.0) in the ROM Manager app, but when I 'reboot into recovery' within the app, it goes to the Android System Recovery. I'm also confused about the 'apply sdcard:update.zip' option in ASR...seems like that would update something if the file was set up properly.
I guess I need to search for a tutorial on how ASR and HBOOT work. Sorry to bother you guys with the basics.
Try this onehttp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1663531
bilgerryan said:
Try this onehttp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1663531
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Will check it out, thanks! I'm leaving town today, so not sure if I will be able to experiment before I go, but I will not give up!
The only thing I use Rom Manager for is to get the recovery. The way I go into recovery is to turn my shift completely off (do a battery pull to make sure its completely off) then hold the volume down and power buttons at the same time until the bootloader screen comes on. (While there see if it says S-off near the top) then using the volume buttons highlight the recovery option and push the power button. Then when you're there use the volume buttons to navigate through the various fields and hit enter to select. I hope this is helpful to you. Good luck!
Edit: by the way, when you first get to the bootloader screen, it will automaticly do a check showing a few green lines. Thats ok. Just wait until its finnished then go into recovery the way I stated.
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Will check it out, thanks! I'm leaving town today, so not sure if I will be able to experiment before I go, but I will not give up!
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How did you root? It seems as if you have a locked bootloader and/or S-ON if the custom recovery is not taking
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CNexus said:
How did you root? It seems as if you have a locked bootloader and/or S-ON if the custom recovery is not taking
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From bootloader screen:
Speedy XE Eng S-OFF
Hboot-0.93.2011 (PG0610000)
Radio-1.08.01.0111
eMMC-boot
Nov 15 2010, 13:16:46
I haven't tried Dread's CW-Enhanced yet. I just don't understand why the standard CWM recovery from ROM Manager doesn't work. I'm probably missing something obvious.
jdjohn said:
From bootloader screen:
Speedy XE Eng S-OFF
Hboot-0.93.2011 (PG0610000)
Radio-1.08.01.0111
eMMC-boot
Nov 15 2010, 13:16:46
I haven't tried Dread's CW-Enhanced yet. I just don't understand why the standard CWM recovery from ROM Manager doesn't work. I'm probably missing something obvious.
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Just flash Dread's in bootloader, make sure it is named PG06IMG.zip (that is a zero) and place on the root of your SD and go back into the bootloader and hit update when it tells you to.
bilgerryan said:
Just flash Dread's in bootloader, make sure it is named PG06IMG.zip (that is a zero) and place on the root of your SD and go back into the bootloader and hit update when it tells you to.
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Was thinking that myself. Will have to wait til I get back, though...headed out of town. Thanks guys!
jdjohn said:
From bootloader screen:
Speedy XE Eng S-OFF
Hboot-0.93.2011 (PG0610000)
Radio-1.08.01.0111
eMMC-boot
Nov 15 2010, 13:16:46
I haven't tried Dread's CW-Enhanced yet. I just don't understand why the standard CWM recovery from ROM Manager doesn't work. I'm probably missing something obvious.
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Hmm, never mind then, it seemed as if your bootloader was still locked if the recovery wouldnt flash
bilgerryan said:
Just flash Dread's in bootloader, make sure it is named PG06IMG.zip (that is a zero) and place on the root of your SD and go back into the bootloader and hit update when it tells you to.
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Yeah, just do what bilgerryan said (make sure that you download the one that says "flash through bootloader" or something along those lines)
Before flashing, download some md5sum tool and make sure it matches the one given on there
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Finally got back to this and was able to install and use Dread's CW-Enhanced. So far I have only flashed the Speedy Rooted OTA 2.77.651.8 (bascially 2.3.4 rooted). GB had some features I was wanting, but missing, after rooting back to Froyo.
But before continuing on to other ROMs, I was wondering how you guys handle restoring basic apps and data each time you flash a new ROM. Or, do you only use extra play phones for new ROMs and not your daily user? It would seem that every time you flash, you need to restore SuperUser, Titanium, ROM Manager (ClockworkMod, then probably Dread's enhanced image file), Terminal Emulator, etc. And of course contacts and messaging history and other stuff like that.
So far, after flashing a ROM, I usually download Titanium (or MyBackup) and restore apps and data from backups before continuing. Do you just keep certain APK files on your SD card and install from ADB instead of re-downloading from Google Play Store each time?
I flash ROMs on my dd. Usually when I falsh a new ROM (not a nandroid) I fresh install my apps through the play store. Especially if switching between GB, ICS and JB! Some apps work well if carried over by tb but not all. You'll just have to experiment to see what works with your shift and what doesn't.
Also, the recovery only ever needs to be flashed once
What I used to do is backup my current rom with all my data and settings and then wipe + flash a new rom. If i liked it, then I would move my full box of apps and data to the new rom, but restoring data can go wonky so I always made a backup before doing that too. If i didnt like it, I would either restore my original backup for a bit or keep flashing new roms until I either found one I liked or got tired and restored my backup lol

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