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The Feature Request Thread

In an effort to help cut our clutter down, this thread should be used for all general feature requests.
First request:
Use the other forums for non-develop related posts.
Second request:
Aosp ported to the eris.

jcase said:
...First request:
Use the other forums for non-develop related posts...
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^^ This ^^
A proper tutorial for changing splash1 - DONE
A proper tutorial for boot animations -- including all the ins and outs of image creation/format, programs that are used, and a more complete description of desc.text and how to use it.
I'm all for helping out on those as well pm if anyone would like to exchange info before creating a nicely formatted thread based how to. I'll prolly drop in to chat at some point when I get time too.
PS: I think we should start putting our how-to threads in the general section to avoid people posting randomness in the development section. Since at that point we should be doing minimal development anyway and development related conversation could still take place in the proper forum. Also this could be put in the general forum once people catch on.
All those in favor say Aye.

somebody please make a better dialer... It is the bane of my existence

aosp
Forgive my ignorance, but what is aosp?

theme development
now that we have root has anyone taken a shot at a skin for eris? maybe port some of the wicked cool stuff they have working on the hero side? tons of notification bars, clocks, rosie scrollers...and so much more...just excited to see where our devices can go.
To the devs, thanks for all your effort. For those who are impatient ect just know these guys n gals have work, school, families ect and all they do for us is on their own time...so that being said be courteous and thankful and most of all patient...development has to well...develope....

rom116 said:
Forgive my ignorance, but what is aosp?
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AOSP is the Android Open Source Project, which is the latest open version of Android, Codenamed Eclair at this time. Its roughly the same as Android 2.1 release.

My Requests
All HTC Widgets including the new ones from the desire/ legend (Friendstream, RSS Reader, Today in History etc.)
Re-skinned Sense Bottom Bar (Some Hero Roms have a rectangular one rather than the curved one we have)
Speed/ Battery Optimization

speech to text

A larger camcorder resolution would be nice, at least the resolution the phone runs in. Also an overclocked processor.

Could anyone see about Using Dialer One as the default dialer app? Like when you press "PHONE", Dialer One comes up instead? That would be great.

[Q] Subforums for Sense/Stock builds in the Dev section ?

As it appears people clearly like or dont like HTC Sense, would it be possibly to add these options to the dev forums, its getting really confusing trying to follow/ find anything with the page's updating every second and the random names dev's use to tag there builds

RenZ0R said:
As it appears people clearly like or dont like HTC Sense, would it be possibly to add these options to the dev forums, its getting really confusing trying to follow/ find anything with the page's updating every second and the random names dev's use to tag there builds
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Sorry for my ignorance but do you need someone to hold your hand while crossing the street too?

inny2 said:
Sorry for my ignorance but do you need someone to hold your hand while crossing the street too?
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Nope but obviously someone needs help on learning on how to throw together a witty non valid comment... it's a simple suggestion on cleaning up the forums to make them more user friendly, now, back under your rock troll...

I was going to suggest something similar too.Another thought was to not have so much discriptions on the headings,maybe just the basics of what is there.Then more detailed info when the thread is opened,maybe.I find it pretty confusing the differentiate between some of the builds.
I'm almost changing on a two daily basis my android roms and am very grateful for all the hard work being put into this so keep up the good work and thanks

I have to say its rather easy for me to figure out what type of build it is.
maybe its just me. Usually there is something in the header that tips me off.

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Nope but obviously someone needs help on learning on how to throw together a witty non valid comment... it's a simple suggestion on cleaning up the forums to make them more user friendly, now, back under your rock troll...
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I have to say its rather easy for me to figure out what type of build it is.
maybe its just me. Usually there is something in the header that tips me off.
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I hope you see the difference between me (troll) and you. Check the titles, waste some more time to install all the builds and you will find which developer and what build is what with what.
Thank you!

Your correct, Titles tell us everything
[BUILD]Mdeejay FroYo HD v.3.3 beta|1.24.405.1|kernel: hastarin r 7.1
must therefore be a Stock build.... oh wait, its Sense.
I could list various titles for hours with the amount of releases there is on a weekly basis, see what im getting at here ?
The suggestion I made has nothing to do with testing builds, what developer to use, or any other of the random questions about builds that are flooding the forums, its about a creating a simple sub forum so the two variations of releases can be easily distinguished and found by the user looking for it, and probably give a little leeway to the dev's from the constant requests they get to do a alternative build with/without sense, simple organisation allowing less clutter and less load on the xda servers search function.

No need subforums for Sense/Stock, Stock build is dying, in a few days you won't able to find any stock build in the first few pages, there are will be Sense and EVIL Sense...

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Your correct, Titles tell us everything
[BUILD]Mdeejay FroYo HD v.3.3 beta|1.24.405.1|kernel: hastarin r 7.1
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Isn't HD in the title as Rom from Desire HD?
Plus most developers if not all put some screen shots at the end of their first post.
And we are talking for how many android roms in total? 10? Thats nothing compared to WM roms and GTX themed or Max-Sense. Needless to say the mess with the builds for 6.5 and 6.5.x builds. As soon as people get acquainted with what they have its fine.

A look at the stable roms (videos)

Hi everyone. I uploaded videos of the stable rom available on this forum. Just want to share this with you guys. It can help people choose the good rom for them.
THIS IS ONLY A LOOK AT THE ROMS. I DONT SPEAK OR ANYTHING. NO SOUND.
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2.2 based roms
- FreeX10 Beta4
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=900441
Link to video : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkTMXjMZzgY
-NEW NEW NEW NEW ----> [MOD by CF] TripNMiUI v1.0.3 FreeKernel 003 ! <----- NEW NEW NEW NEW
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1013210
Link to video : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26tJbxRhDEE
(this is not the default theme that comes with the rom but you will see what u can do with this wonderful rom; ! Android 2.3 Gingerbread theme from the MIUI theme chooser!)
- CM6.1.3 Scamble v1.3 (COMING SOON!)
- [Cyanogen6.1.3]gingerbread[v01]
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=947613
Link to video : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Crk9VbLARXo
-( GOING TO UPLOAD A VID FOR VERSION 6 AS SOON AS ITS AVAILABLE FOR EVERYONE!)
[ROM] CM 6.1.3 V4.5 (link to v4.5.7 vid on the video) [Tweaked+Theme+Extras]
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=945264
Link to video : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1-zbbP285U
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2.1 based roms :
Blue Sparks V051 OTA
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=892688
Link to video : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-uTMoWSHWXg
[ROM-2.1-THEMEUPDATE]Honeycomb Look
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=949457
Link to video : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2r7Xyf0A6E
If you think this post dont belong here just delete it please. thx

you should probably blur out your friends phone numbers, etc... lol
Good idea though on the videos..

**** YES finally, great idea.

Good Idea. I linked your Video in my Thread

cm 7 v006 is missing thinki saw the vid yesterday gonna look for it

Dude, sweetness.
I have no idea why noone didn't think of this before(I didn't lol)

alankstiyo said:
cm 7 v006 is missing thinki saw the vid yesterday gonna look for it
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Read the title again my friend,A look at the stable froyo roms (videos),CM7 v006 is based on gingerbread.
@OP,gr8 idea,thums up!
Regards...

then - [Cyanogen6.1.3]gingerbread[v01]???????????????
that's froyo???
okokok my mistake xD

alankstiyo said:
then - [Cyanogen6.1.3]gingerbread[v01]???????????????
that's froyo???
okokok my mistake xD
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it is....
froyo with a gingerbread theme

Yes! Great work! Maybe it's just me, but it would be great if you could also put a description of each ROM in layman's terms. Personally, I don't find most of the descriptions provided by the devs in their first posts very helpful either. Since there is no audio I think it would be very helpful to know what's different about them.
If you are the dev of one of these ROMs or one not listed, maybe you will consider my request as well?

agentJBM said:
Yes! Great work! Maybe it's just me, but it would be great if you could also put a description of each ROM in layman's terms. Personally, I don't find most of the descriptions provided by the devs in their first posts very helpful either. Since there is no audio I think it would be very helpful to know what's different about them.
If you are the dev of one of these ROMs or one not listed, maybe you will consider my request as well?
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They are almost the same... It's android OS. The only difference I can notice is the colors of the interface. Sometimes there some apps mods and difference in the camera UI but everything about this is in the description of each ROMS threads.
TriPNMiUI is the one with the biggest changes. But I show em all in the video.

Someone should sticky this thread!

allskin said:
They are almost the same... It's android OS. The only difference I can notice is the colors of the interface. Sometimes there some apps mods and difference in the camera UI but everything about this is in the description of each ROMS threads.
TriPNMiUI is the one with the biggest changes. But I show em all in the video.
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Which I said I don't find very helpful. Those descriptions assume you understand all the abbreviations and numbers. To someone familiar I am sure it is crystal clear, but for a noob trying to decide between ROMs it's a bit confusing. That's why I asked for it in layman's terms.
In response to your brief description, and please remember I am new to the development aspect... Why do we need/have four nearly identical mostly working ROMs, rather than people working together on one fully functional ROM? Does working on cracking the bootloader or the drivers for the camera require a different skill set than developing one of these ROMs?

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Which I said I don't find very helpful. Those descriptions assume you understand all the abbreviations and numbers. To someone familiar I am sure it is crystal clear, but for a noob trying to decide between ROMs it's a bit confusing. That's why I asked for it in layman's terms.
In response to your brief description, and please remember I am new to the development aspect... Why do we need/have four nearly identical mostly working ROMs, rather than people working together on one fully functional ROM? Does working on cracking the bootloader or the drivers for the camera require a different skill set than developing one of these ROMs?
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One ring to rule them all?
You know what I want to know is where are the lawyers? With the official announcements regarding malware that requires a os update, I'm curious about the liability issues when you are locked in to a contract without a update to your locked device.
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One ring to rule them all?
You know what I want to know is where are the lawyers? With the official announcements regarding malware that requires a os update, I'm curious about the liability issues when you are locked in to a contract without a update to your locked device.
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Now is the time, if any, to flood SE forums, blogs, comments, and email with this legitimate reason to update. No more unique X10 (2.1) user experience versus generic 2.2 being a fair alternative.

Thank you! thank you! thank you!!!!.... you have sorted out and condensed a lot of time showing actually working rom's to update my "first" love but now my girlfriends x10i
Good stuff ... i tell you.. one again thanks

What is the photo widget used in the first video? Its about 1m20s in to the video. Is it part of the arc launcher?

Hi,
1st tought.
You should make the videos with original package and without any add;
2nd tought
Great idea!!! Congrats

@JBM
allskin wasn't trying to not give you the answer in layman's terms, he was merely stating that if its froyo its all the same functionality wise. They all have basically the same speed and features. The difference mainly being visual, which the video works well at showing. If it has CM in the title or Cyanogen Mod it means that it includes a set of personalization options in the settings menu. The only fully working roms are those that are based on 2.1 eclair. Most the number notations are just version numbers which do not corrolate between roms in any way. Trips miui rom is only different because its functionality is designed around behaving like an iPhone. All the same features are still there though.
So really, its as simple as choosing if you want the cm options or not and if you want a iPhone style or not. Between the pics and these here videos, the visual effects/design will depend on what you like.
If you want more advice please feel free to pm me so we don't clog this thread with off topic discussion.
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Compumasta, thanks for answering my question. Sorry, I really didn't think it was off topic. It was more of a clarification, but I am sure others will benefit from your answer as well.

Sick of silly dev roms

I always wanted to share this as some people call themselves developers in this forum by just removing and adding some apps and making roms "look faster". What they is actually going into the app called spare parts and choose the fast transition and fast windows animations. So why not trying these settings on cm7 and see which is faster people? Or any other rom developed by true developers!! I am not saying im against rom development but at least if u are trying to develop then do something unique and not a rom that even my grandma could do
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I agree mostly... the vast majority of roms available for us right now are just themed CM7. that's fine and dandy, but it's particularly amusing to me when people talk smack about CM7 being "slow" or "buggy" etc and then claim their new rom of choice, a CM7 variant, is the best thing since sliced bread.
that said, even theming can be a hell of a task, and extremely time consuming. I appreciate all of the work the development community provides to us (free of charge, mind you).

I don't see what you are trying to get at here. For a start I have tried just about every rom there is and I don't believe I have ever come across one that has window tansitions set to fast by default. We have a really good mix of devs here doing different things and do great work. You need to remember that devs build a rom that they like, quite often it is built for them and they choose to release it to the general public.
One of the great things about this community is choice. A rom that one person loves and another will hate, its all about personal preference.
Do you know anything about developing a rom? I don't but I knw a lot of work goes in to them and the devs do a lot more than change some settings on spare parts to make there rom different, better and faster than the next rom.
Your post in insulting to the devs that work really hard to give us something cool and awesome.
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Well said. You must strive to support to the best of your abilities, the development scene for this respective phone.
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There is a MAJOR difference between Chef and Developers, that's why we have the term Chef for non devs that make ROMs.

I never said not supporting TRUE dev!! Im referring to those that call themselves devs by removing and adding a few apps. Go into other handsets forums and see what i mean. For ouf g2 only a few deserve to be called devs. Thats what im saying..
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I know who your referring to, and if your not referring to someone in particular, there is someone who repackages stuff that offers nothing new and everyone wets there pants over it. Getting on my nerves somewhat.
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TheDeadCpu said:
There is a MAJOR difference between Chef and Developers, that's why we have the term Chef for non devs that make ROMs.
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And does anyone actually use the chef title here on the g2 forum? No....
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I think this thread really exemplifies a major issue in the dev community: The lack of drive for a unified stable product whose basic functions all work properly across a cross section of devices.
Theaming is all well and good, but if MMS doesn't work and you have force crashes on multiple internal apps; what exactly is it all good for? If I can't boot up gps, then what the heck does it matter? If internal components and tweaks are confusing and ill thought out, then why the heck are they being shared?
I really think that the dev community needs to sit down across multiple devices & hash these issues out.

astriaos said:
I think this thread really exemplifies a major issue in the dev community: The lack of drive for a unified stable product whose basic functions all work properly across a cross section of devices.
Theaming is all well and good, but if MMS doesn't work and you have force crashes on multiple internal apps; what exactly is it all good for? If I can't boot up gps, then what the heck does it matter? If internal components and tweaks are confusing and ill thought out, then why the heck are they being shared?
I really think that the dev community needs to sit down across multiple devices & hash these issues out.
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Yohu know what your looking for? A stock rom....they all work! The devs here are pushing the boundries and taking our phones to the edge! Of course not everything will work out of the box and if they fixed everything before they released it they would have to deal with everyone begging for the next release.
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xsteven77x said:
I know who your referring to, and if your not referring to someone in particular, there is someone who repackages stuff that offers nothing new and everyone wets there pants over it. Getting on my nerves somewhat.
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Thats what im talking about. I m glad someone agrees with me.. cheers mate
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kokoskokis544 said:
Thats what im talking about. I m glad someone agrees with me.. cheers mate
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Thought I was the only one too but did not want to be rude or sound ungrateful. I do appreciate every quote on quote devs work and passion for making us roms. But some of these are just stock with the equivelant of removing bloat with titanium backup. No system tweaks. Nothing really even changed. if anything they should just be called bloatless roms or something.
On another note, while I do get annoyed that a lot of stuff is just cyanogen with a slick of paint on it, obviously the work it takes to build a rom from the ground up is not easy. Otherwise we would see a lot more of them. I do understand that and do not take lightly how hard it probably is. Maybe the answer is let's port some roms from other phones? Like insertcoin for example? Or maybe all the devs that are just repackaging stuff get together and form something along the lines of what the bionix team does and all work together to make one super good rom.
I LOVE the choices we have with this phone. Its f-in awesome. But sometimes I feel like its just a placebo with really one 3 to 4 actual unique roms for our g2. I do not know how to make roms, so I'm not acting like this can be done overnight. But some of this just seems like common sense no matter what angle your coming from.
Obviously rmk is a rom god. And suilmagic seems like an up and comer. Pershoots kick ass. I thought for a minute there was many a rumor that eugene was heading our way, which if true would probably cause a dam near astronomical shift in this forum, hope there is some truth to that rumor. Those are devs that stand out to me, if I didn't say your name I just didn't think of you when I was writing this.
Thank you for indulging my two cents. I do not mean to offend anyone whatsoever. I appreciate everything you guys do for us. But let's not sugarcoat the reality of our situation.
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kokoskokis544, welcome to the club
what enrages me the most is the absence of detailed information on what exactly is done to the rom - goes against the community spirit.
I would like to research the changes myself and make sure there's nothing that can damage my phone.

actually, from my point of view, the worst thing is when someone does not give deserved credit - "Grab, use and forget"

petarpLab said:
kokoskokis544, welcome to the club
what enrages me the most is the absence of detailed information on what exactly is done to the rom - goes against the community spirit.
I would like to research the changes myself and make sure there's nothing that can damage my phone.
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I agree that is extremely annoying. And then you ask what is it in it or whats different from other roms and you get a "INSTALL IT STUPID AND FIND OUT"....YA WELL UP YOURS TOO

even decompiling a rom and making minor changes like adding/removing apks and tweaking existing settings takes hours of work. theming is even more time consuming. I don't think most people realize this. the work itself isn't "hard," but the amount of time you have to set aside to be able to do this kind of stuff is extremely tough to come by, at least for me.
in that respect, you should all be grateful for the time ALL devs and chefs, regardless of the substance of their contributions, devote to giving us new stuff to play with.

pmcqueen said:
even decompiling a rom and making minor changes like adding/removing apks and tweaking existing settings takes hours of work. theming is even more time consuming. I don't think most people realize this. the work itself isn't "hard," but the amount of time you have to set aside to be able to do this kind of stuff is extremely tough to come by, at least for me.
in that respect, you should all be grateful for the time ALL devs and chefs, regardless of the substance of their contributions, devote to giving us new stuff to play with.
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I'm glad there is at least one person here that share my point of view.
[sig]My mission is to hit 1000 posts by 23/05/2011[sig]

cjward23 said:
I'm glad there is at least one person here that share my point of view.
[sig]My mission is to hit 1000 posts by 23/05/2011[sig]
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Make that two. I don't really see a reason to get all aggro over something that is free. As to something that "might damage my phone".... um.. what? To my knowledge, the devs (or whatever some may wish to call them) are not into the practice of putting out toxic software for us to download. To make sure, I use this goofy thing called judgement. I'll look at a new ROM, read the dev comments, wait a while, read the feedback comments, and make a decision. Not complicated. If there are a ton of bugs and problems, I'll wait until later versions come out that correct these issues. Or I'll choose another ROM. I honestly don't see the point of complaining about free services and a plethora of options. If people don't like all that, unroot and stay with stock software.

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I'm glad there is at least one person here that share my point of view.
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No, I'm with you too. While I don't know zip about development, I can appreciate the fact that it takes time and effort to create and upload a ROM, even one that is just a tweaked version of someone else's work.
While the OP seems to be complaining about one or a few people in particular, it seems that many people who post ROMs are doing it for the sheer enjoyment, or to create something unique for themselves. Then, they go out of their way to upload and post it on here for others to enjoy. Of course, giving credit when its due, and describing what has been changed (and what hasn't), as previously suggested, are all good points as well.
Its not like there is a whole lot of fortune and glory associated with calling yourself a "developer". If somebody is even calling themselves that, its probably due to lack of a better term, more than anything else. Its a bit cumbersome to go around calling yourself "Guy who modified a ROM for myself, and now posting it for others to enjoy".
Besides, if you don't like a person's ROMs, just don't use them or read his threads. Not enough ROMs tends to be the more common complaint, rather than too many (although obviously quality is a factor as well, not just quantity).

If you really wanna ***** about free services then don't use them, switch phones, go to a different dev community. People do this work for fun, they don't ask for money for the hours of work they put in. You should be appreciative for whatever ROMs we get ,especially if you don't "dev" yourself.
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Coming from HD2 section.

Hi,
Just want to say that im likely coming from HD2 section soon as im getting a GS2.
I'm just a bit gutted as this section doest seem as organized as HD2 section, ie there doesn't seem to be a dating convention (or at least non enforced) so topics seem random.
What I like about HD2 section is that for the most part most devs/cooks etc release to same standard naming rules, ie [date].[ROM/KERNEL].[Rom Title/Version.[Etc].
These standards make things much more orgnized overall and looking at this section sort of brings me back to when I was using the HTC Universal forum
I'm sure I will eventually find my way and learn to get used to going back to less standards, mostly because im sooo looking forward to getting the GS2 so everything else is second

Waaa? Trying checking again, it got everything you stated. =.=
Unless I'm illiterate...
$1 gets you a reply

GRiM-UK said:
What I like about HD2 section is that for the most part most devs/cooks etc release to same standard naming rules, ie [date].[ROM/KERNEL].[Rom Title/Version.[Etc]
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We all had a vote some time ago and voted against those, sorry...

Kailkti said:
Waaa? Trying checking again, it got everything you stated. =.=
Unless I'm illiterate...
$1 gets you a reply
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Then I guess your illiterate.
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We all had a vote some time ago and voted against those, sorry...
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That's a shame.
Cant see why it was voted against tbh.
2 good things about the HD2 forum is 1) Its huge amount of dedicated developer following and 2) Its organization. Even though I visit the forum daily so know which topics are new/updated its nice to see a standard topic title naming convention with date/type/title, That way you can see clearly from browse page which are updated topics with regards to builds instead of dates/titles been in random sequence.
Either way I'll have to learn to adapt back to this random naming as GS2 will be my daily device soon. However I wont miss my HD2 simply because it wont be going anywhere, I will still be using it to try new roms and also as a great backup.

I also came from the HD2 section and finding the GS2 section a bit of a maze, but all is well ) I'm hoping this GS2 will give me as much play as my HD2's did.. still have them, one cracked screen and one that the digitizer is going out on, the screen will stop responding until I press the End button twice.
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HoustonsBirdman said:
I also came from the HD2 section and finding the GS2 section a bit of a maze, but all is well ) I'm hoping this GS2 will give me as much play as my HD2's did.. still have them, one cracked screen and one that the digitizer is going out on, the screen will stop responding until I press the End button twice.
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Well im gunna be honest here, I actually have a iPhone 4S aswell atm but I just cant get used to such a mall screen and although the OS is quite good (as far as stability, ease of use) I just cant get used to having my fecking hand held every step of way and also the feeling of having them tied behind my back at most points. I bought it because I was given it at such a great price that I would have no problem getting rid once I was bored (approx 3 weeks) and then getting my only viable HD2 replacement (hardware wise compared to price). Before the GS2 I just didnt really see any reason to get new device since HD2 had basically (or in allot of cases better) hardware then new native Android devices.
Just made my mind up now and getting rid of the iPhone, keeping my HD2 and having GS2 as main device.
PS. Just want to add, I'm also a Galaxy Tab 7 user and that forum also (for the most part) keeps to a standard way of titling topics so its going to be hard to getting used to the dev sections here.

GRiM-UK said:
Hi,
Just want to say that im likely coming from HD2 section soon as im getting a GS2.
I'm just a bit gutted as this section doest seem as organized as HD2 section, ie there doesn't seem to be a dating convention (or at least non enforced) so topics seem random.
Unfortunately many posters will not follow the rules and post questions in the wrong section .
We also have a greater share of idiotic repeat posts fails to use search posters .
Roms are labelled but they are often updated frequently within that thread and even have kernel changes .
Not saying i disagree with your viewpoint but suggest you contact the mods re your suggestion .
Noobs do find it hard to navigate .
jje
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Almost all of our threads have a [ROM] or [KERNEL] or [KITCHEN] or [GUIDE] tag.
The initial perusal might be somewhat daunting. Once you understand Samsung's ROM releasing conventions, you'll understand why we don't insist on having each thread tagged with a date. I'd recommend reading the first 3 posts of Intratech's thread to give you a start. The series of numbers/letters found in the title of most [ROM] threads is essentially our dating convention (ie XWKK5).
Then maybe sort the forum by the "Stats" column to see what's popular and go from there.

GRiM-UK said:
That's a shame.
Cant see why it was voted against tbh.
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That was a joke, we have a sense of humor here in the gs2 section
crachel summed it up pretty nicely.

GRiM-UK said:
Well im gunna be honest here, I actually have a iPhone 4S aswell atm but I just cant get used to such a mall screen and although the OS is quite good (as far as stability, ease of use) I just cant get used to having my fecking hand held every step of way and also the feeling of having them tied behind my back at most points. I bought it because I was given it at such a great price that I would have no problem getting rid once I was bored (approx 3 weeks) and then getting my only viable HD2 replacement (hardware wise compared to price). Before the GS2 I just didnt really see any reason to get new device since HD2 had basically (or in allot of cases better) hardware then new native Android devices.
Just made my mind up now and getting rid of the iPhone, keeping my HD2 and having GS2 as main device.
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Hey GRiM-UK, if you're coming from the HD2 and have used Hyperdroid, we've got pongster and doctorcete working their magic here yet again. It evolved into something different considering ROMs here are mostly based on stock (Some AOSP, MIUI and CM also) because of proprietary drivers which source isn't always available for sadly...
It does take some getting used to, as I do agree the HD2 forums were easier to understand (And less noobish to me), but you know... Sometimes you have to move on. haha. I mostly read the general page and the original android page, but the decent information a tad all over the place... So good luck!

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Almost all of our threads have a [ROM] or [KERNEL] or [KITCHEN] or [GUIDE] tag.
The initial perusal might be somewhat daunting. Once you understand Samsung's ROM releasing conventions, you'll understand why we don't insist on having each thread tagged with a date. I'd recommend reading the first 3 posts of Intratech's thread to give you a start. The series of numbers/letters found in the title of most [ROM] threads is essentially our dating convention (ie XWKK5).
Then maybe sort the forum by the "Stats" column to see what's popular and go from there.
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I think you misunderstand, Im very familiar with what a Rom and Kernel is and their tags etc and am not a n00b who gets confused.
I'm simply saying that it really benefits the forum when each release has a date tag at beginning of topic title instead of in random position or not at all. It means that all dates are in same line and each release is easily distinguishable by build date an you can check for updates at a glance and not rely on remembering all the version numbers.
Its a really small thing that makes a huge difference, Ill probably end up getting used to not having them but atm its really hard adjusting. The HD2 section is just far superior in organization imho.
For example checkout the HD2 NAND section compare to the Dev sectiosn here...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=928
Please don't think I'm complaining or don't appreciate the work in this section, I'm just a bit disappointed that XDA or section mods hasn't tried to bring the convention to other forums, Guess I just assumed others were same by now.
I guess this will all change when XDA finally starts its release database.

welcome to the SGS2 section my friend!
Its quite different over here as one of the rules of being in the SGS2 section is we must deal with grumpy and abusive coders, who are to busy yelling and abusing than to actually get on working with the code!
You'll soon meet codeworkx soon enough....you lucky devil you....