So I've had a Sprint Hero since it came out and love whats being done on it. I recently purchased a Samsung Moment, and there is some progress happening, but i'm not sure in which direction. We have root, and recovery mode that can apparently update via .zip from sd. I'm wondering why recovery mode is not being used at all for our updates? This is how we do it on the hero and its much more convenient. We have to use odin for the moment and am curious why. As far as I can tell there are only a small handful of people working on the device and are doing great but idk, it just seems different having to actually go back to flashing devices. Are there other android devices that need flashing when rooted? I really don't know what I'm asking here. Maybe just looking for a handout of some genius from xda? lol
look mate....there will be nonhtc forums over here in a short while,so i suggest you to go to "new forums on xda" thread in the about section and request moment to be added....or contact "svetius" via pm ..he leads the project
so when you get the forum,it will be a piece of cake to gather some people who could work on the moment...so i think that would be your best shot
I know I'm just crabbin I was wondering whether or not anyone knows if anyone's going to start developing custom roms for this thing. Obviously I cant develop myself but be interested to know if my expense for this thing is going really worth it or not. I figured with all the development for the galaxy outline thing should be a breeze a developed for this point. I have noticed that the viewsonic g tablit seems to be having a lot of activity. Let me know all of your opinions
Hey guys. Let me first start off saying I hope I'm in the right section here. This seems more plausible than the Q&A to me for some reason.
I was just seeking some information (for me and all other US potential buyers) on how/which/where/what to get this device? If anyone could just even attempt to answer one question, I would GREATLY appreciate it. My questions are not simple "do you like dis device?!", rather, they pertain to development:
1) Is there a difference between the International version and the 'US' version (if there are different versions)? I will not be buying this device on carrier contract and was wondering, when I buy it online, should I be aware of different versions with different radios, etc... I will be using this device with a microSIM on T-Mo USA HSPA+.
2) What are the odds of achieving S-Off? I understand HTC is offering a 'dev' edition but does NOT offer S-Off. Kind of a stab in the back for 'devs' if you ask me. I know this is SUPER early in development to even wonder, just throwing it out there wondering how well developers may support this device in the future. My main purpose of buying a new device is for a strong future in development (both stock updates and 3rd party support) in the long run.
3) Where/when/how/what? If that didn't make Sense?!?!: I noticed the 'dev' edition will be priced at 6hundred something USD (article linked above) and was wondering if this would be cheaper/more expensive than the regular unlocked man? I hope they don't retail this bad boy ridiculously expensive like Sammy over there with the new Cosmo 14 or whatever that device is.
Thank you so much guys! Any help would be super appreciated as mentioned before. Peace Please don't ripe me a new one if this thread is out of place!
There are several old threads about dual-booting, and using this particular phone. I want Windows 6.5 or less and/or a desktop version of windows (because of certain apps)... and Android 4.0+ Is it possible? Would this phone be too slow... Is there a better phone that could do it? Is there no phone that could do it?
robertkjr3d said:
There are several old threads about dual-booting, and using this particular phone. I want Windows 6.5 or less and/or a desktop version of windows (because of certain apps)... and Android 4.0+ Is it possible? Would this phone be too slow... Is there a better phone that could do it? Is there no phone that could do it?
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I'm not sure about desktop Windows but as for Android just place the ROM folder on the root of your SD card then run CLRCAD and HARET and it should work just fine. No other phone can do it as well as the HD2 (if they can do it at all).
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I'm not sure about desktop Windows but as for Android just place the ROM folder on the root of your SD card then run CLRCAD and HARET and it should work just fine. No other phone can do it as well as the HD2 (if they can do it at all).
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Thankx for replying... I've posted on a few forums and haven't received anything till now. Anyway: So what you are saying is buy this HD2 phone preloaded with the Win 6.5 OS... Then put Android 4.0+ on the SDCard and boot into that. I would really want to run Android most of the time. I would connect the Android OS to my AT&T and make calls with it... and only use Win 6.5 rarely.
Questions:
1) Are there examples of people actually doing this? recently?... or just back in the days of 2.2 which as I mentioned in the 1st thread, i found many google links/forum threads on.
2) Can I still get to the Android market and all normal apps, and not have other DRM issues?
3) Since the OS is actually on the SDCard, and I hit the reset, would it automatically go to Windows, when I reset?
robertkjr3d said:
Thankx for replying... I've posted on a few forums and haven't received anything till now. Anyway: So what you are saying is buy this HD2 phone preloaded with the Win 6.5 OS... Then put Android 4.0+ on the SDCard and boot into that. I would really want to run Android most of the time. I would connect the Android OS to my AT&T and make calls with it... and only use Win 6.5 rarely.
Questions:
1) Are there examples of people actually doing this? recently?... or just back in the days of 2.2 which as I mentioned in the 1st thread, i found many google links/forum threads on.
2) Can I still get to the Android market and all normal apps, and not have other DRM issues?
3) Since the OS is actually on the SDCard, and I hit the reset, would it automatically go to Windows, when I reset?
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Come on, you don't even have to search to get your answer, just browse to the SD Android development forum. You're just being lazy now.
Nigeldg said:
I'm not sure about desktop Windows but as for Android just place the ROM folder on the root of your SD card then run CLRCAD and HARET and it should work just fine. No other phone can do it as well as the HD2 (if they can do it at all).
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Come on, you don't even have to search to get your answer, just browse to the SD Android development forum. You're just being lazy now.
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From Star Trek: Sarek said: "It is difficult to answer, when one does not understand the question." Or in my case, it was difficult to go looking for the answer, when not understanding how supposedly easy it was to find. Us IT people are in the business of making others feel stupid often, but we don't have to flaunt it.
Yes this is a good link, that now you have so eloquently pointed out: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1986437
robertkjr3d said:
From Star Trek: Sarek said: "It is difficult to answer, when one does not understand the question." Or in my case, it was difficult to go looking for the answer, when not understanding how supposedly easy it was to find. Us IT people are in the business of making others feel stupid often, but we don't have to flaunt it.
Yes this is a good link, that now you have so eloquently pointed out: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1986437
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There's a difference between not knowing/understanding and simply not trying. This was quite obviously the latter. I'm not trying to make you feel stupid at all, in fact you're probably the opposite since you're going to buy an HD2 . I'm just saying that you weren't exactly trying to find the answer and just wanted to be spoon fed, and as someone who's new to this you're probably going to have a lot of questions along the way and it's better to learn how to find the answers yourself than to just get given them because it's faster and better for everyone.
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There's a difference between not knowing/understanding and simply not trying. This was quite obviously the latter. I'm not trying to make you feel stupid at all, in fact you're probably the opposite since you're going to buy an HD2 . I'm just saying that you weren't exactly trying to find the answer and just wanted to be spoon fed, and as someone who's new to this you're probably going to have a lot of questions along the way and it's better to learn how to find the answers yourself than to just get given them because it's faster and better for everyone.
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If you wish to keep noobs as noobs, and turn them away, then continue to use sarcasm. But if you wish to turn noobs into contributors, and receive more thanks, than you treat them with respect. --- I've been looking for weeks for the right place. I wish to upgrade my phone soon, but not in that big of a hurry.
You wish me to defend myself? OK. Your XDA site is huge with a vast array of forum links. I was not aware I would need to look under HTC development'. I didn't know it had anything to do with Development.... Sorry (why am I apologizing to you?). To me software development is when someone programs an application that runs on a Win-mobile and/or Android device better known as an 'app'. Or what I do... I am a software developer for the asp.net environment. When searching for dual-booting as I said in the 1st thread I get tons of threads from years ago about Android 2.2. The same happens when searching from google. Is it really that easy to find as you say? Unless like you, you know exactly where to look. 'It is easy to find the answers, when you know right where to look', 'you understood the question'... but I did not know where even to look!
robertkjr3d said:
If you wish to keep noobs as noobs, and turn them away, then continue to use sarcasm. But if you wish to turn noobs into contributors, and receive more thanks, than you treat them with respect. --- I've been looking for weeks for the right place. I wish to upgrade my phone soon, but not in that big of a hurry.
You wish me to defend myself? OK. Your XDA site is huge with a vast array of forum links. I was not aware I would need to look under HTC development'. I didn't know it had anything to do with Development.... Sorry (why am I apologizing to you?). To me software development is when someone programs an application that runs on a Win-mobile and/or Android device better known as an 'app'. Or what I do... I am a software developer for the asp.net environment. When searching for dual-booting as I said in the 1st thread I get tons of threads from years ago about Android 2.2. The same happens when searching from google. Is it really that easy to find as you say? Unless like you, you know exactly where to look. 'It is easy to find the answers, when you know right where to look', 'you understood the question'... but I did not know where even to look!
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There was no sarcasm in my post at all, but now I'm going to be quite blunt. You're acting like an idiot. I understand why you may think software development is to do with apps but when there are two separate forums for NAND and SD then it should be obvious that it's not. I was 14 and I managed to figure out how to install SD Android without any help whatsoever, I refuse to believe that a software programmer couldn't figure it out. You wished to dual boot WinMo and Android on your SD card on an HTC HD2:
1. Find XDA
2. Find the HD2 forum
3. Oh look, it has a section called 'Android'. The answer's probably in there somewhere
4. I want to boot Android on my SD card. Conveniently, there's a forum dedicated to SD Android. I wonder if there are modern ROMs there
5. Whoa, threads with ICS and JB ROMs as well as guides on how to install them. I guess I've found my solution.
Yes, it's just as easy to find as I say if not easier. Steps 1, 2, 3 and 4 could have been solved with Google.
I couldn't care less about thanks, they're not a very good reflection of... well, anything really. I've seen people with 0 thanks post amazingly useful guides (in fact I think the guide I first followed to flash NAND Android was someone's first post) and people with thousands of thanks ask 'best ROM' questions. Whilst it would be great to turn more people into contributors it'll be impossible for you to become one if you don't put any effort in yourself.
Because this thread went off the rails I am going to close it, but here's the quick rundown:
if you want to dual-boot WM6.5 and Android, you can do so using the haret method mentioned. Yes it is fully featured (market etc.) and yes when you restart you boot back into WM6.5, but you can boot into Android really fast after that if you want.
You can also dual-boot WP7 with Android, put Android on NAND or other options.
Searching really is the key, I know the HD2 forums can be a bit daunting and some things are going to be a bit hard to find but generally speaking if it has anything to do with Android (like dual booting from WM6.5) you will find it stickied in the Android forum.
Check stuff out here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=743
I know it is great having having a plethora of ROMs available for the S7 Edge and S7 but with the many ROMs out there they all seem similar to one another with minor differences. I know creating a new ROM is hard, (congrats to Fevax for cracking Lineage) but other then that, it seems like 'oh another version of the wheel', I know people do this as a hobby and I can't tell people to stop, however try do something original like possible do a Port of Lg or One plus.
I know people will say, if I want a lg port I should get a lg phone, or porting isn't easy and I should do of myself, but with the many talented people on this forum, why can't something like this happen.
Get a LG. Or make your own ROM. Or stop your ungrateful whining.
Big man behind the keyboard
1. Did you even read my question
2. Samsung has one of the best build quality of any phones, that's why I go to Samsung
3. What is so bad about asking for something if you are willing to pay
4. What ever happened to having a discussion on why it wouldn't work
5. So just because I have a sumsung, I can't see what a LG or HTC might operate like;
what you are saying is like;
If you want AOSP get a Nexus or a Pixel, Samsung is only TW
or you use a Mac and you want to use Windows or Linux on your device to, get a different computer for each OS.
6. I was asking for a service and I didn't push No Developers to do it.
So just because you sit behind a keyboard and belittle new members who just want answers to questions, makes you feel better then good luck to you for getting a insignificant win today.
New ideas come from everywhere, I didn't post this on an existing forum because I was asking a question, which forums are made for.
I will say you won't care what I wrote and will do a keyboard warrior tantrum.
I have been on this forum since Galaxy S1 and yes I haven't created an account until now but I didn't need to.
I do support the developers when something innovate arrives like AOSP working on the S7 or the few modded ROMs show up.
Just like any customer, you ask if something new is in the works and not expected to be called ungrateful.
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1. Did you even read my question
2. Samsung has one of the best build quality of any phones, that's why I go to Samsung
3. What is so bad about asking for something if you are willing to pay
4. What ever happened to having a discussion on why it wouldn't work
5. So just because I have a sumsung, I can't see what a LG or HTC might operate like;
what you are saying is like;
If you want AOSP get a Nexus or a Pixel, Samsung is only TW
or you use a Mac and you want to use Windows or Linux on your device to, get a different computer for each OS.
6. I was asking for a service and I didn't push No Developers to do it.
So just because you sit behind a keyboard and belittle new members who just want answers to questions, makes you feel better then good luck to you for getting a insignificant win today.
New ideas come from everywhere, I didn't post this on an existing forum because I was asking a question, which forums are made for.
I will say you won't care what I wrote and will do a keyboard warrior tantrum.
I have been on this forum since Galaxy S1 and yes I haven't created an account until now but I didn't need to.
I do support the developers when something innovate arrives like AOSP working on the S7 or the few modded ROMs show up.
Just like any customer, you ask if something new is in the works and not expected to be called ungrateful.
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To be fair you do sound like you are whinging. You never mentioned paying someone and never made a request for aROM, you just moaned that there is what you see as a lack of creativity.
You haven't asked developers for anything. You just moaned that you aren't getting what you want.
Perhaps you meant something else but worded it wrong, but I don't think your post will go down well to be honest as it just seems like a flame toward the hard working devs on XDA.
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To be fair you do sound like you are whinging. You never mentioned paying someone and never made a request for aROM, you just moaned that there is what you see as a lack of creativity.
You haven't asked developers for anything. You just moaned that you aren't getting what you want.
Perhaps you meant something else but worded it wrong, but I don't think your post will go down well to be honest as it just seems like a flame toward the hard working devs on XDA.
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Thank you a response someone knows how to give, and it was just an inquiry.
Wogleb12 said:
1. Did you even read my question
2. Samsung has one of the best build quality of any phones, that's why I go to Samsung
3. What is so bad about asking for something if you are willing to pay
4. What ever happened to having a discussion on why it wouldn't work
5. So just because I have a sumsung, I can't see what a LG or HTC might operate like;
what you are saying is like;
If you want AOSP get a Nexus or a Pixel, Samsung is only TW
or you use a Mac and you want to use Windows or Linux on your device to, get a different computer for each OS.
6. I was asking for a service and I didn't push No Developers to do it.
So just because you sit behind a keyboard and belittle new members who just want answers to questions, makes you feel better then good luck to you for getting a insignificant win today.
New ideas come from everywhere, I didn't post this on an existing forum because I was asking a question, which forums are made for.
I will say you won't care what I wrote and will do a keyboard warrior tantrum.
I have been on this forum since Galaxy S1 and yes I haven't created an account until now but I didn't need to.
I do support the developers when something innovate arrives like AOSP working on the S7 or the few modded ROMs show up.
Just like any customer, you ask if something new is in the works and not expected to be called ungrateful.
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1. Yes.
2. Me too.
3. Where did you say you were "willing to pay"?
4. No discussion to be had. Devs make ROMS and make them available as they see fit. Their work, their time.
5. Not saying that at all. Like.
6. Sweet way of "asking for a service" you have. Telling devs their work is "another version of the wheel" will really endear you to them.
Didn't know you were new, nor do I care. My answer would have been the same.
As @riso123 suggests - you come over as a moaner. If that's not your intention, choose your words better.