I'm using the TF3D Audio tab to play music. Works pretty well, but a load of my albums have track ordering screwed: track 1 and track 5/6/7 are reversed. Tried deleting the library and resetting, retagging my songs - no help. Anyone else seeing this? Any ideas how to fix song order?
No-one else has this problem?
rickgillyon said:
I'm using the TF3D Audio tab to play music. Works pretty well, but a load of my albums have track ordering screwed: track 1 and track 5/6/7 are reversed. Tried deleting the library and resetting, retagging my songs - no help. Anyone else seeing this? Any ideas how to fix song order?
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Hi Rick,
I also have this problem. It's always track 1 that is swapped with track 5, 6 or 7 as you describe.
I've checked all throught the tags on the WMA files for the albums i've installed and they are perfect. Looking at the other details there seems no reason why the tracks have swapped around in the order.
Anybody got any ideas, cus I'm at a loss to see why?
I don't really want to get into having to create a playlist for every album just so the tracks are in the right order!
Any help much appreciated
cheers, Jimmy
Thanks Jimmy, can't find any solution though, and doesn't seem like many have this issue. Back to Pocket Player I guess!
how are you putting the songs onto your hd? active sync or fiel transfer?
when i used active synce i found a lot of the artists and song titles missing in touch flo. when i file transfered stuff manually into the music folder everything came up as it should
Had this too with 2 of my albums, then it hit me: they were the only two albums with wma files, so I converted to mp3 and now it's all ok.
I have this problem with tracks from iTunes (m4a). For me it's usually track one and seven that are swapped around, but sometimes things are even more muddled. I can't actually work out how the order is derived. It's not by file size, file name or date created. Really weird.
As mentioned above, if you load MP3 files then files are listed in track order. This has been driving me bonkers. I wonder if newer versions of the TouchFlo Audio manager still have this problem. Anyone able to confirm? (I'm making the assumption that it is the HTC audiomanager that is playing the music files behind the scenes, but I don't even know if this is the case. Must put Task Manager on my phone and see what's running!) .
Me too...
Same issue here... any bright spark out there capable of working out a fix (prefer not to use MP3 due to file size issues...)
I'm still having issues with the music player. I am trying to persevere with the HTC music as I like the interface, and not found another music player yet that I do like the interface on.
Over the past couple of days I've been having issues as it's not been transfering my artwork across, and also tracks appear in random orders in many albums (but not all) on the phone. I have solved the cover art problem by adding the music files using the phone as a hard drive rather than through active sync, but the tracks still appear in a random order.
I have tried using monkey media, and media jukebox to arrange my files and add artwork. The tracks appear in the right order in every music program I use, whether it be monkey media, windows media, or simply opening them up from my music on my laptop. Also, if I open up the files on the phone from my laptop the tracks are in the correct order. Can anyone solve this issue for me please? It's been causing me a headache for the past 48 hours now and I think a blood vessel is about to burst Oh, I've tried adding files from my itnes folder as well, but I get the same problem. I'm not 100% sure, but I think the order of the tracks differs each time I try adding them to the phone
Someone told me to change the tags using mp3tag, but when I run this program it won't let me change the tags, and besides I wouldn't know what to change them to. In the column that says tags, they all just say WMA anyway.
Cheers
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I'm still having issues with the music player. I am trying to persevere with the HTC music as I like the interface, and not found another music player yet that I do like the interface on.
Over the past couple of days I've been having issues as it's not been transfering my artwork across, and also tracks appear in random orders in many albums (but not all) on the phone. I have solved the cover art problem by adding the music files using the phone as a hard drive rather than through active sync, but the tracks still appear in a random order.
I have tried using monkey media, and media jukebox to arrange my files and add artwork. The tracks appear in the right order in every music program I use, whether it be monkey media, windows media, or simply opening them up from my music on my laptop. Also, if I open up the files on the phone from my laptop the tracks are in the correct order. Can anyone solve this issue for me please? It's been causing me a headache for the past 48 hours now and I think a blood vessel is about to burst Oh, I've tried adding files from my itnes folder as well, but I get the same problem. I'm not 100% sure, but I think the order of the tracks differs each time I try adding them to the phone
Someone told me to change the tags using mp3tag, but when I run this program it won't let me change the tags, and besides I wouldn't know what to change them to. In the column that says tags, they all just say WMA anyway.
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I think I saw this yesterday after I reinstalled everything following the new ROM upgrade, it was annoying me but this is what I done...
Slide to the music panel/tab and wait patiently while the screen in black and appear frozen for a while. I think it is actually 'loading' the list of all of the music tracks as 'now playing'.
If, when this has loaded, you tap the library button, then randomly slide to the artist tab to select a track, and play it, it clears the 'now playing' queue to the track you have just selected. You can then go back in and create play lists etc. as you would want to usually.
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I think I saw this yesterday after I reinstalled everything following the new ROM upgrade, it was annoying me but this is what I done...
Slide to the music panel/tab and wait patiently while the screen in black and appear frozen for a while. I think it is actually 'loading' the list of all of the music tracks as 'now playing'.
If, when this has loaded, you tap the library button, then randomly slide to the artist tab to select a track, and play it, it clears the 'now playing' queue to the track you have just selected. You can then go back in and create play lists etc. as you would want to usually.
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Hi, Thanks for your reply, but I'm not sure you fully understood what I meant?
If I wait for the media to load and tap the library button it doesn't matter if I go to artist>album or directly to album, the tracks displayed for the album or in the wrong order, and play in the wrong order eg on my Dido album "Here with me" is listed as the 11th track, when actually it should be the 1st. I don't want to, and shouldn't have to create a playlist for each album just so that the tracks play in the right order. Is there a way to get the HTC music player to organise the tracks so they are listed and play in the right order, ie track 1 first, track 2 second etc? It's so frustrating
Oh, sorry. I thought you were describing the thing I had...
Sorry, I don't know how to help you, hopefully someone else will be able to assist you.
Are you sure you don't have Shuffle switched on as that will randomise your songs. It's the icon with two arrows crossing one another to the right of the word Music on the Music tab in Sense.
2 things...
First, what format are your songs ripped in?
Second, you're probably better off letting the music player get the album art for you. Just click the CD icon in the top left of the screen and it will automatically do that for you. It's obviously better to let it handle as much as it can natively.
have you tried looking at the advanced tag editor in windows media player to see what order your tracks are actually in?.as for the album art,I use mp3 tag,its an easy program to use and works everytime. I know how feel as iv come across this myself and it did my head in lol. keep us informed.....
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2 things...
First, what format are your songs ripped in?
Second, you're probably better off letting the music player get the album art for you. Just click the CD icon in the top left of the screen and it will automatically do that for you. It's obviously better to let it handle as much as it can natively.
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My songs are in WMA format, but I've also tried M4a (ie itunes)
The trouble with letting the program find the artwork is that it can't find a lot of them
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have you tried looking at the advanced tag editor in windows media player to see what order your tracks are actually in?.as for the album art,I use mp3 tag,its an easy program to use and works everytime. I know how feel as iv come across this myself and it did my head in lol. keep us informed.....
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I'm not sure where the advanced tag editor is in windows medaia player?
If I open windows media on my laptop and change the list options to details, across the top of the window I have the following columns:-
#, Title, Length, Rating, Cont. Artist, Album, Genre, release Year, Composer, Size, Parental Rating, and if I right click on the columns I can add the column "Tag". However there is nothing in the tag column for any of the tracks???
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Are you sure you don't have Shuffle switched on as that will randomise your songs. It's the icon with two arrows crossing one another to the right of the word Music on the Music tab in Sense.
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Yep, I'm sure. Plus it's not jsut that the tracks are playing in a random order, they're listed in a random order when you go into the album.
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Yep, I'm sure. Plus it's not jsut that the tracks are playing in a random order, they're listed in a random order when you go into the album.
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The problem is definitely the ID3 tags.
I can't help you any further than that I'm afraid, as I've been using MP3 format for years now, and every piece of music that I possess is in that format. It's still the most universal format, and therefore works flawlessly on most devices.
I do know that m4a stores the tag values differently to ID3, so they may not be read succesfully. I don't know how wma stores the values, if at all!
I'd recommend getting a piece of software like Sony Sound Forge so you can do a batch conversion and make everything MP3. After that, use something like WinAmp to automatically populate the ID3 tags for you. Once you've done that, the previous suggestion I made about album art will definitely work, so just don't bother doing anything manually for that.
That's all I can suggest. It's a lengthy process, but done right it will definitely solve your current problem.
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I'm not sure where the advanced tag editor is in windows medaia player?
If I open windows media on my laptop and change the list options to details, across the top of the window I have the following columns:-
#, Title, Length, Rating, Cont. Artist, Album, Genre, release Year, Composer, Size, Parental Rating, and if I right click on the columns I can add the column "Tag". However there is nothing in the tag column for any of the tracks???
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right click on the track in wmp and you will see an option for advanced tag editor. click that and see if the track number is the same as it shows in the actual track listing of the album. if i were you mate id convert everything to mp3 format, i just find that things like album art and track listings seem to work better, but thats just me.....
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The problem is definitely the ID3 tags.
I can't help you any further than that I'm afraid, as I've been using MP3 format for years now, and every piece of music that I possess is in that format. It's still the most universal format, and therefore works flawlessly on most devices.
I do know that m4a stores the tag values differently to ID3, so they may not be read succesfully. I don't know how wma stores the values, if at all!
I'd recommend getting a piece of software like Sony Sound Forge so you can do a batch conversion and make everything MP3. After that, use something like WinAmp to automatically populate the ID3 tags for you. Once you've done that, the previous suggestion I made about album art will definitely work, so just don't bother doing anything manually for that.
That's all I can suggest. It's a lengthy process, but done right it will definitely solve your current problem.
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totally agree bud. when i got into the digital music scene what seems like years ago now, all my collection was wma and i had nothing but hassle when transfering to other devices, the same as the op is having regarding mixed up tracks and missing art. after a lenghty process of converting everything to mp3 everything worked fine. i suggest its what the op does to solve the problem........if i were the op id convert the album thats giving him issues into mp3 format and transfer it onto his phone to see if it solves it. let us know op how you get on............
You may have already tried this.
But here goes if you go to your album on the pc then right click properties then goto details on each song that will tell you what number the track is & album artist etc that is the way the hd2 lists them from the properties not just the name of the song.
This is probably the first thing you tried but thought i would tell you anyway.
johncmolyneux said:
The problem is definitely the ID3 tags.
I can't help you any further than that I'm afraid, as I've been using MP3 format for years now, and every piece of music that I possess is in that format. It's still the most universal format, and therefore works flawlessly on most devices.
I do know that m4a stores the tag values differently to ID3, so they may not be read succesfully. I don't know how wma stores the values, if at all!
I'd recommend getting a piece of software like Sony Sound Forge so you can do a batch conversion and make everything MP3. After that, use something like WinAmp to automatically populate the ID3 tags for you. Once you've done that, the previous suggestion I made about album art will definitely work, so just don't bother doing anything manually for that.
That's all I can suggest. It's a lengthy process, but done right it will definitely solve your current problem.
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I'll convert everything to MP3. I did start re-ripping my CD's as MP3's at top quality (I only ripped my wma at 128kbs), but I can't for the life of me find them I'm hoping they're on my other laptop when I get home, otherwise I'll have to do it all again I'll post on here when I done this and tried it and let you know the outcome.
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You may have already tried this.
But here goes if you go to your album on the pc then right click properties then goto details on each song that will tell you what number the track is & album artist etc that is the way the hd2 lists them from the properties not just the name of the song.
This is probably the first thing you tried but thought i would tell you anyway.
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Yeah, I've tried this and they are listed in the right way. There are no tags though so hoping this may be the issue as already mentioned.
Thanks though
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I'll convert everything to MP3. I did start re-ripping my CD's as MP3's at top quality (I only ripped my wma at 128kbs), but I can't for the life of me find them I'm hoping they're on my other laptop when I get home, otherwise I'll have to do it all again I'll post on here when I done this and tried it and let you know the outcome.
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Good luck mate. It may take a while, but it's well worth doing.
Incidentally, don't forget the good advice from donwhann - try 1 album first and make sure you're happy with the results before converting everything. If it turns out to be something else then you'd be mighty angry lol
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right click on the track in wmp and you will see an option for advanced tag editor. .....
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I don't get an option for advanced tag editor if I right click in wmp, or my library. Even if I go into properties that option isn't there?
I'm running the latest version of wmp.
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I don't get an option for advanced tag editor if I right click in wmp, or my library. Even if I go into properties that option isn't there?
I'm running the latest version of wmp.
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strange.......iv just tried it myself now and its there. are you right clicking on an individual track listed in an album?, stick at it mate, if your like me its a must have to have your music all sorted and looking good lol. keep us informed......
Funny I have always had this same problem. I didn't find the tag editor either BUT I just put the TAG column in my list and if I click by the song IN THAT COLUMN it opens up a text window for adding a tag. Nothing to say that the option is there just opened the text window. Might try that.
Can anyone confirm if the HTC music player app as part of sense can display the embedded art in MP3 files?
I have a very organised collection.. and all the MP3's have (one piece of) embedded art which works in Media Player, and on my iRiver MP3 players with Rockbox..
But on my Hero.. no art is shown.
I understand it should be.. can anyone shed any light on this?
(I'm on Modaco 3.1, but the same thing happened with the Stock ROM as well so I suspect it's somethign I've done wrong.)
All the tags are perfect and all the art was added with mp3tag which seems to be recommended for this job by a quick google..
I've run out of ideas!
sambartle said:
Can anyone confirm if the HTC music player app as part of sense can display the embedded art in MP3 files?
I have a very organised collection.. and all the MP3's have (one piece of) embedded art which works in Media Player, and on my iRiver MP3 players with Rockbox..
But on my Hero.. no art is shown.
I understand it should be.. can anyone shed any light on this?
(I'm on Modaco 3.1, but the same thing happened with the Stock ROM as well so I suspect it's somethign I've done wrong.)
All the tags are perfect and all the art was added with mp3tag which seems to be recommended for this job by a quick google..
I've run out of ideas!
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try this: download and install itunes, if you're not on mac.
then obviously, import all of your music
tell me if itunes shows your cover art so I can help you further
Works on Mine
My Missus is the Queen of MetaData and has an immaculate set of MP3s together with Album Art etc.
It's all displayed correctly on mine (Modaco 3.1)
Sorry it's not a solution but it may help in fault finding.
Brynn
Yes the art is all visible in iTunes.
It's weird.. I've actually found a few tracks where it does work.. but they are identical to other tracks where it doesnt.
It seems to prefer smaller artwork, in an exact square shape.. but even changing other tracks to that doesnt guarantee it will be shown.. which is more annoying!!
I can't help you with making it more automatic, but a program called Album Art Grabber is in the Market and it works wonders. Someone here on xda made it, although I can't recall who. They should be able to shed some light on how Android accesses album art.
Or, having AlbumArt.jpg in the same folder as the music should do the trick!
There are some free PC-based utilities to get these as a batch-job for you I think, but I use script in Amarok (CopyCover2) which stores the playing album's image there for me.
Download a tagger (Sorry I can't suggest anything I'm on linux) that allows you to view both ID3v1 and ID3v2 tags (there is one, I used to use it but I don't remember the name).
If you're using ID3v1, copy them over to ID3v2 or viceversa.
This may solve your problem, chances are your music is tagged with ID3v1 and Hero only supports ID3v2.
I took my PAYG Samsung Galaxy S II back to O2 (UK) for a refund today, after 2 days of use. Love the speed, thinness, screen quality and size. TouchWiz is dire - but can be replaced with Launcher Pro. I could not live with the fact that most of my music files came up with <unknown artist> and no cover art. I use DoubleTwist to synchronise (after a fashion!) iTunes playlists to my Android devices. The same music files that appear correctly on the Nexus S and the Xoom would not show the artist/cover art information on the SGS2. So I know the files are tagged correctly. I also tried a direct copy of music files from my iMac to the SGS2, but same issue. Tried the stock music app as well as DoubleTwist and the Samsung Music hub - the media details were missing whatever the player.
I have spent many hours getting my media files correctly tagged and cannot live with a device that ignores all my hard work. May seem a small point and I can't understand how this could happen.
Has anyone else experienced the same problem and is there a cure?
Did you try PowerAmp? That works perfectly fine...that scans all the tags and brings up the details. I never use the stock music player cos it's not that good imo.
Everything else sucks compared to PowerAmp.
I think Doubletwist was your problem, I've seen another user at Androidforums who had the same thing, his files were fine when he just sideloaded them.
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I think Doubletwist was your problem, I've seen another user at Androidforums who had the same thing, his files were fine when he just sideloaded them.
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I agree DoubleTwist is far from ideal, but it has worked OK to move music to the Nexus S and the Xoom - with all information complete. I also tried side-loading an album that showed with no artist information or cover art after the DoubleTwist sync and it made no difference. PowerAmp may be a good player on the device, but does it handle music transfer (from a Mac), as I need to move music in an iTunes playlist to my phones - too cumbersome to move files individually.
im using FLAC files with winamp and had no real issues, tho i did notice this morning that some tracks arent in the correct order but id have to check my tagging before i make assumtions
other than that not had one problem with them, you sure you didnt really want to take your phone back anyway seems a small matter to return such a nice phone for when it can probably be fixed
I'm not an iTunes user, so I don't know what the other softwares are, but I am aware there are several other options you could try to sync across from iTunes. Maybe give some others a try?
Found the following thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1062137&highlight=media
Seems that the SGS2 does not recognise artists (and presumably cover art) tags if the file is in M4a format. That would explain why some of my files were OK and others not. Most of my iTunes library is in M4a format, purchased from iTunes. Way too much work to convert everything to MP3 and no reason why this popular format is not supported, as it is supported on every other Android phone (including my Samsung Nexus S).
It was me that started that thread and I still have not found a solution, which is annoying, hopefully someone smarter than me will find an answer!
Just seams an odd thing as no other phone I've ever had has had this problem! And I'm not going to convert all my music either! Maybe someone will get the stock music app working?
It is really strange as I tried the Samsung Music Hub, the stock music player and DoubleTwist and they all could not read the tags. So it must be something that Samsung has done to the file format on this particular phone. I doubt it is an application fault, so it is up to Samsung to acknowledge and fix this oddity. I returned mine and will now wait for the HTC Sensation.
I seem to be having a problem with the tagging on my FLAC files. i have tried using KIES to insure it was a problem with media monkey (which i have been using most of the time), basicly it isnt displaying the tags for FLAC properly if at all. most annoying thing for me is track order, it just puts them in any order it wants and it is really annoying
i transfered over an album in mp3 format and the tags work fine ;/
anyone have a fix or an idea about that
thanks
Crucio
I'll bne ripping one of my albums to Flac to try it out for my review, will let you know results. Have you tried another player, PowerAMP maybe?
I've always had trouble with FLAC on my Galaxy S; only PowerAMP could show the tags correctly. I'm insanely meticulous with my tagging as well.
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I've always had trouble with FLAC on my Galaxy S; only PowerAMP could show the tags correctly. I'm insanely meticulous with my tagging as well.
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Same i hate things that are tagged baddly, i dont understand it i think it takes more time to tag something badly than to do it right
I used power amp to play my files, it displays track information and coverart and the usual stuff.
The odd thing is if i long press a track and go to info i can see the track numbers listed there and they are correct, they just dont display in the correct order and i cant see a way to sort them in to the right sequence ;/
thanks for the replys also ^^
Crucio_