Anyone notice that it looks like the hardware for the front camera is there on the vibrant? Any chance that could be activated and used with a new rom?
Lol, it's not a FFC.
Apparently you skipped over the stickied thread at the top that says "Read Before Posting" ...this has nothing to do with development.
But to answer your question, that isn't a camera. It's a proximity and light sensor.
When I first looked at my phone out of the box, I was REALLY excited about that as well.
Than my brain kicked in out of my geek coma I was in and realized that it was just sensors.
Reports and reviews from overseas basically say the FFC is basically a POS and really never gets used much for anything.
Basically it's about as powerful as a gameboy camera with ****ty resolution.
I don't miss it.
Someone please delete or at least lock this thread.
androidmonkey said:
Anyone come up with a mod yet to solder LED light on the back of the camera?
Hell, lets make it with 3 LEDs, convert the prox sensor to a FFC, and finally dip the phone in stainless steel so we can have a metal coating....
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Haha better yet gold so its balling out of control. but where are all the rom files i just got rid of my hero and used to flash that thing everyday people need to step it up and get workng on some roms so i can test them and see whats good or bad with them.
From what i am told. The little thing on the front of the phone is a proximety sensor and something else. I always thought it was the cam. and we just had to enable it
but, I guess thats not the case.
HI,
Unfortunately, the front camera does not exist on the vibrant or captivate.
The camera hole would be located to the right of the speaker slit.
There is no hole there.
Probably left out to reduce costs.
It is only on the euro models.
jgimpact said:
Anyone notice that it looks like the hardware for the front camera is there on the vibrant? Any chance that could be activated and used with a new rom?
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can understand your excitement OP, but alas!
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A while back there was a rumor that the video camera was still in the 8525 but they just covered it up with the new silver bezel - anybody care to dismantle to prove/disprove this rumor?
Why would they cover it?
Seemed silly to me to but there were rumors 3 or 4 weeks ago that's what they did. I think the basics of it was that their network wasn't up to snuff for the video so they covered the camera (being cheaper then redesign?) so people wouldn't complain about the extra camera which they couldn't use. I think it's bunk but curious - I don't recommend anybody tear apart their 8525 - I doubt it's there but if you're feeling reckless and want to destroy your new $600 toy - let me know if you find the camera!
It is possible.
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Seemed silly to me to but there were rumors 3 or 4 weeks ago that's what they did. I think the basics of it was that their network wasn't up to snuff for the video so they covered the camera (being cheaper then redesign?) so people wouldn't complain about the extra camera which they couldn't use. I think it's bunk but curious - I don't recommend anybody tear apart their 8525 - I doubt it's there but if you're feeling reckless and want to destroy your new $600 toy - let me know if you find the camera!
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Now I'm just wondering whether some of the more expert folks here could work this one out without dismantling. The coolcamera programme can utilise the front camera as a webcam. Obviously there would be no picture if the camera is covered but I wonder what the programme will do if the camera is not present. Clearly a message saying camera not present would be handy but if it freezes or behaves strangely (some error message) that might be another bit of evidence suggesting the camera is absent. Perhaps someone with device could try using coolcamera to see what happens on front camera setting?
Just a thought
Mike
That's a great idea.
I just tried what you guys suggested with the coolcamera app and when I switched the sensor from main to front, I got a black screen. Of course this would make sense since it is covered up but I didn't get any error message.
Today while looking at the phone more closely, I noticed there is sort've a "flatness" or outline on the bezel where the front camera would be.
I'm a believer that the camera is still present on the phone...just disabled and covered up by the metal bezel on the 8525. I also agree with the fact it wouldn't make sense to redesign the phone just to remove the camera. Instead they could do it cosmetically, in this case, with the metal bezel that is on the 8525.
Assuming that the camera is still present, I'm hoping that a third party company (or HTC) can make a replacement bezel with the front camera opening.
That is amazing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Don't break open those 8525s just yet...
Notice that even when you completely cover the main camera lens, you can still see colors when you cycle through the special effects (sepia, cool, negative). When you switch to the front camera and cycle effects, you get nothing (the screen never changes from black). If the front camera were present, the negative effect at least would be dramatic.
-Sar
Good point Sarumiso. I just tried changing the effects and nothing changed. It could mean that the camera is just disabled, though. Won't know for sure until someone opens up their phone.
cellnut said:
Good point Sarumiso. I just tried changing the effects and nothing changed. It could mean that the camera is just disabled, though. Won't know for sure until someone opens up their phone.
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Good points being made. An error message might at least have suggested camera is not present, unfortunately no errors does not prove things one way or the other.
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so im an avid 8125 guy with my 8525 on the way, will be here tomorrow... anyway, lets pretend for a moment the cam is there, then its more than likely disabled in the cingular rom... would it be possible to flash an actual tytn rom to get the front camera support, then try the testing with the software and cycling through the colors? just a thought
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I just tried what you guys suggested with the coolcamera app and when I switched the sensor from main to front, I got a black screen. Of course this would make sense since it is covered up but I didn't get any error message.
Today while looking at the phone more closely, I noticed there is sort've a "flatness" or outline on the bezel where the front camera would be.
I'm a believer that the camera is still present on the phone...just disabled and covered up by the metal bezel on the 8525. I also agree with the fact it wouldn't make sense to redesign the phone just to remove the camera. Instead they could do it cosmetically, in this case, with the metal bezel that is on the 8525.
Assuming that the camera is still present, I'm hoping that a third party company (or HTC) can make a replacement bezel with the front camera opening.
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Or just take a dremel to it.
here is an idea... is the service manual out there? like one specifically for the 8525, it may tell whether it exists or not. or what company actually does the repairs for the 8525, maybe we contact them and find out... or if all else fails then the manual would give instructions on how to take it apart...
"...anyway, lets pretend for a moment the cam is there, then its more than likely disabled in the cingular rom... would it be possible to flash an actual tytn rom to get the front camera support, then try the testing with the software and cycling through the colors?..."
shogunmark---will you be testing this theory of yours? I would try this myself but I'm too much of a nb to even attempt changing the ROM. Have to read up on all the how to threads. =)
well, i probably will, but its gonna a little while before i can do that, i havent even gotten my 8525 yet, fedex says it will be here tomorrow... i have alot more reading to do though... i am very familiar with cooking roms for my 8125, but from what i read so far it seems like the 8525 is a different animal entirely, so with my busy life its gonna take at least a week or 2 of reading before i make the venture
I've removed the two screws from the other side of the screen. Pried open the display case and bottom of it to about 1/8" and I could see that my phone does NOT have the front facing camera. It has the place for it, but definitely no camera. Would be nice to compare the Tytn's ie/mail/led pcb with the 8525s to see how they differ.
already done: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=284384
I've created a full housing swap to include the fron camera on my 8525. Tutorial includes full instructions with pictures included. See link below
http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=1152710&page=1&pp=15
so im an avid 8125 guy with my 8525 on the way, will be here tomorrow... anyway, lets pretend for a moment the cam is there, then its more than likely disabled in the cingular rom... would it be possible to flash an actual tytn rom to get the front camera support, then try the testing with the software and cycling through the colors? just a thought
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I have everything ready to do this. Camera installed and all. I have unlocked my phone to update to any rom. I'm willing to give this a shot. I just need to know if I where to get the ROm to download. Tis swap is a compete resemblance of the Japanese versionof my 8525, its the htc Z from Japan. http://www.japan.htc.com/product_htcz.htm . I dont know if there is an english versionof this rom to download. I'm ready to do this for everyone I just need direction
It's a shame that those of us that do have the front facing camera that the phone lacks a front facing flash or LED. Would be very handy otherwise those times when the urge comes for yet another self portrait and it happens to be night . . .
(We do not have 3G here in Oman.)
For the total newbie...
I have not yet purchased my Titan and it looks like work might be getting it for me, but one big issue. We are not allowed to have ANY camera's at one facility. I have Googled but seem to only find how to fix the rotation.
Before sinking the money, is there a way to totally disable the camera? All suggestions welcome, it only has to appear to security that it is disabled. So, if the button doesn't work or it is a reg hack I can undo, I am fine.
I am honestly not going to jeopardize my job over a picture, I have zero intention on using the camera there.
Thanks for any and all help to the newb.. Smartphone newb and all!
You can cook your own rom and not add the camera package on it. But then who is going to trust you that your phone don't have camera when they see the the physical camera on the phone regardless you have software for it or not
I do alot of construction for industrial and drug companies in my area. They almost NEVER believe you. You can not physicly have a camera even if it doesnt work. You can however order a Mogul without the camera from a Sprint store or over the phone.
stevenewjersey said:
I do alot of construction for industrial and drug companies in my area. They almost NEVER believe you. You can not physicly have a camera even if it doesnt work. You can however order a Mogul without the camera from a Sprint store or over the phone.
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Really...? I have not heard of this.
Does it still have a spot in the plastic where a camera would be or is it a
different design on the back?
Does anyone have any experience with swapping the housings between the 2? I am getting the Pure tomorrow but prefer the housing of the Diamond 2 whos full housing is available for purchase. Ive done a ton of swaps, even the iphone, but never between htc rebranded devices... any thoughts?
I'm not sure how well that is gonna work out for you. There are different things between the two of them. First the layout of the buttons. But that may not be a problem. The Unlocked Diamond2 has a front facing camera. So there may be an issue there. The device is curved differently so who knows it the Mini USB port will align right.
I'm sure that no one has done it since the Pure has only been out for a few days and some people that are getting it don't even know of the Touch Diamond2 or that the PURE is a Touch Diamond2. The T-mobile EU version is just like the pure but has a FF camera. So if anyone who has that phone and has done a swap can tell you for sure but I doubt it. There could be slight changes the just throw the entire thing off.
I was just thinking about that. I too prefer D2's design over pure's but I needed 3G. I've done many phone customizations and would definitely undertake this task if it's possible.
I think one of you should try and see if it's possible. There are TD2 Housings for sale on ebay. $20. Worth it if it works.
The $20 one may just be the housing. I asked the seller if its the complet 3-peice housing set. If not there are more for under $40 that show pics of the full set and say its the full set in the description. If you don't trust ebay go here and pay the full price. They have original OEM parts for almost any mobile.
CNN.CN
yeah i found the cnn one and will probobly end up doing that, from the pictures they look like they both have everything in the same places, except the front facing camera will not be there. I wouldnt be suprised if you could add that though during the swap...
76flip said:
yeah i found the cnn one and will probobly end up doing that, from the pictures they look like they both have everything in the same places, except the front facing camera will not be there. I wouldnt be suprised if you could add that though during the swap...
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Any updates on the housing swap project? Was it do-able?
Just curious.
You will have to replace the digitizer as well. It's impossible to remove without damage. Also, be careful with the ribbon cables. You need to slide the black retainer slightly to remove them...
BTW....P.M. me if you get into it and get stuck or nervous. I have taken mine apart a good 5 times to get the dust out of it.
swap housing (front facing camera)
76flip said:
yeah i found the cnn one and will probobly end up doing that, from the pictures they look like they both have everything in the same places, except the front facing camera will not be there. I wouldnt be suprised if you could add that though during the swap...
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I have not opened my pure yet but I know past phones that AT&T left the front facing camera off the socket was on the board you just needed the camera itself and plug it in
did anyone try this yet? i really want to do it because the hard plastic gets scratched up really easily and the back cover is starting to look bad.
Ya the Pure is dog ugly compared to the Diamond 2 IMO...I doubt it will be possible though, to do that switch.
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did anyone try this yet? i really want to do it because the hard plastic gets scratched up really easily and the back cover is starting to look bad.
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You guys don't read do you?
Look at Tomtommy306's posts.
Will have video and article up later. Important notes.
Verizon model is thin as.i9000 without the bump and it does have LED flash
Tmobile and att dont have front facing cameras
Tmobile has Avatar movie included with it.
Sprint has all features with slide out keyboard and 4g modem. The keyboard felt excellent.
None have true gyros. Specifically, they use accelrometer and magnometer for 6axis
I took a pic of the sprint model with flash on. Will.have it in the review
nice can't wait.
Hurry up! Just kidding, will be waiting though Sad to hear none have true gyro. Could care less about front facing camera and led flash though. Just me personally.
No mention of FroYo?
I like front facing camera for fring use (when they repair bug)
You say AT&T and T-mobile don't have front cameras, what about Verizon?
just sprint and i9000 have front facing camera
Sorry forgot to put that down. I didn't see a front facing camera on the Verizon model. However, we did ask the Samsung guy there and he said that these models might not be 100% yet. So some could have front facing camera's added and/or LED Flash as well.
But, right now, I don't believe the Verizon model has front facing camera.
Pre-orders start for tmobile on July 1st, however, NO release dates were given. Hopefully, I might get a review sample of the Epic 4G in. I actually saw a few dudes there with the DroidX.
First half of the video is done. Editing the second right now and when it's done I'll put them on youtube. The event was really nice. The roof lounge was pretty cool too. Got some nice stills as well as video.
Did the AT&T device have a rear flash? I can live without a front facing camera, but a rear camera with no flash is simply unacceptable.
@thephawx can you tell me for this WiMAX epic 4g. Can this device work in Europe also or is just for US?
Because in Europe 4g (802.16e) is on 3.5 GHz and in usa 4g (802.16e) is on 2.5 GHz?
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Did the AT&T device have a rear flash? I can live without a front facing camera, but a rear camera with no flash is simply unacceptable.
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AT&T Captivate did NOT have LED Flash. Nor does the T-Mobile Vibrant. The Vibrant looks quite similar to the i9000, minus the home button. The vibrant has four buttons on the bottom for navigation.
Did any of them have notification LED's? That's much more useful to me then a front facing camera or flash.
sigh. No flash confirmed
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPlz6A7v4gw&feature=channel
The device does look sexy though.
@vrhunski
Honestly, I wouldn't know. I'll ask the Sprint/Samsung rep I met tonight though if she has any info.
@landale
I'm pretty sure I saw green led light on the front to the left of front facing camera on the Epic 4G. It was like on the top right of the device.
Also one other thing worth pointing out is the Epic 4G has the speaker on the bottom of the device, instead of the back. I'm pretty sure the Verizon model is the same.
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@vrhunski
Honestly, I wouldn't know. I'll ask the Sprint/Samsung rep I met tonight though if she has any info.
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Thank you!!! I will wait for your response
@dan 6a
Sorry for skipping over you. They said 2.2 will be coming on all four carriers. They didn't specify when though.
Also, there was another thing I forgot to mention that seemed kind of worrying. They tossed around numbers like 16GB *included*. So I don't think that there is any other flash ram inside other than the 2GB NAND.
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@vrhunski
Honestly, I wouldn't know. I'll ask the Sprint/Samsung rep I met tonight though if she has any info.
@landale
I'm pretty sure I saw green led light on the front to the left of front facing camera on the Epic 4G. It was like on the top right of the device.
Also one other thing worth pointing out is the Epic 4G has the speaker on the bottom of the device, instead of the back. I'm pretty sure the Verizon model is the same.
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do any of the other devices have LEDs on the front?
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@dan 6a
Sorry for skipping over you. They said 2.2 will be coming on all four carriers. They didn't specify when though.
Also, there was another thing I forgot to mention that seemed kind of worrying. They tossed around numbers like 16GB *included*. So I don't think that there is any other flash ram inside other than the 2GB NAND.
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T-Mobile Vibrant = 16GB internal
AT&T Captivate = 16GB internal
Verizon Fascinate = 2GB internal
Sprint Epic 4G = 1GB internal
@J-Hop2o6
Thanks man.
If anyone wants to see the video of the Galaxy S event in NYC go here:
Part 1
Part 2
We are going to have an article up later today with all the info from the event and press kits supplied as well as some stills taken with the Galaxy S later today.
Forgive me if this is revealed in the videos, but it seems like the Epic has a soft-touch, Nexus-like back while the Vibrant has more of a smooth plastic back. Is that true?
Helloooo everyone. I only have one question, want to confirm or debunk something with the wider group of people. I may be just over reacting but thats just the jewish part of me considering the rma or a refund, kidding, lol. Whenever I shake my phone by the ear I can hear a lil something being loose in the case of my g6. Do You also experience the same thing? Can it truly be the autofocus thingy, or something else?
I don't hear anything when I shake my phone. Is it your phone, or do you have your phone in a case? If so, have you tried removing and shaking both separately?
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Well, it happens with a firm shake, and the vibration inside is very delicate. Appreciate the feedback
It could be the OIS on the main camera. I don't hear a shaking but my hearing isn't that good either lol
It's the camera stability, it's perfectly normal. If you put your ear next the the camera and shake the phone quickly you should hear it. Also try it while the camera app is open and the stability is working, you shouldn't hear anything.
Damn, I can hear it just the same with the camera app.
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It's the camera stability, it's perfectly normal. If you put your ear next the the camera and shake the phone quickly you should hear it. Also try it while the camera app is open and the stability is working, you shouldn't hear anything.
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Is it because of them dual lenses? The sound does diminish depending on the lense Im using.
CaIJeT09 said:
Damn, I can hear it just the same with the camera app.
Is it because of them dual lenses? The sound does diminish depending on the lense Im using.
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I can hear it and i think thats perfectly normal, probably for every phone. Don't really know what it is but i was always suspecting it was gyroscope or something like that. My LG G3 also had this same sound when shaking.
CaIJeT09 said:
Damn, I can hear it just the same with the camera app.
Is it because of them dual lenses? The sound does diminish depending on the lense Im using.
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It's OIS, or optical image stabilization.
Ok. Thank You all for help! I get real concerned really easy. I only bought my G6 a few days ago. If it wasnt for my 4yo daughter pushing the sim needle into the sound cancellation mic hole on top during my brief absence in the room right after I brought the thing home Id be completely chill rofl. )
Sorry to reply years later, but I just dropped my G6 and then tested it, and shook it hard, and noticed same rattling lol. I took my fiancé's iPhone that also has OIS etc, iPhone 6S that is, and although it sounds tinier, the rattle is still there.
The reason why some owners don't notice the rattle and some do, is because it solely depends on how hard they're shaking their phone AND the direction or way they're shaking it. That is all there is to it.
Your phone is awesome and not broken, at least when it comes to this. You might have a totally different phone by now lol!
Cheers!