Ok so this is my first time using android os and i have to say its awesome. I about had it with windows. My only problem is the Droid x seems more like a pda then a phone. With my HTC Touch Pro 2 i could just start dialing the number on the keypad and it would narrow down my search instantly. With the Droid im stuck to using favorites or scrolling through the list.
Is this a motoblur thing and im just used to the awesomeness of HTC?
Try dialer one from the market.
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I think this is actually the Android standard (unfortunately). The EVO has this type of dial-to-narrow-down-names functionality, but I think that's something HTC added for Sense.
The HTC Android phones with Sense also have this feature. Motorola does not.
You really start to miss sense and HTC when you see all the little things that you don't have on the droid.
ssorensen said:
Ok so this is my first time using android os and i have to say its awesome. I about had it with windows. My only problem is the Droid x seems more like a pda then a phone. With my HTC Touch Pro 2 i could just start dialing the number on the keypad and it would narrow down my search instantly. With the Droid im stuck to using favorites or scrolling through the list.
Is this a motoblur thing and im just used to the awesomeness of HTC?
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This is one of the big reasons I stayed with WinMo for so long. This was default behavior for WinMo since Smartphone 2002 (my first).
I actually left WinMo when the 1st Droid came out, but took it back within my 30 days to get a TouchPro2. Despite a number of replacement dialers in the marketplace, I just couldn't replicate it effectively. I also had issues with Android 2.0 and Exchange, so it just wasn't a clean fit.
I've now dropped my TP2 for the Droid X and still kind of miss this functionality. Not enough to give up the phone this time, but I might investigate some dialers again.
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dezoris said:
The HTC Android phones with Sense also have this feature. Motorola does not.
You really start to miss sense and HTC when you see all the little things that you don't have on the droid.
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They each have improvements they've added. Unfortunately can only get one or the other.
For instance, the DX has the iphone-style text selection (standard Android and HTC text manipulation sucks).
The DX's dialer has done minor pluses, like easier/quicker access to the contacts list. But the HTC dialer is nicer. Not sure I'd say that about Sense overall.
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They each have improvements they've added. Unfortunately can only get one or the other.
For instance, the DX has the iphone-style text selection (standard Android and HTC text manipulation sucks).
The DX's dialer has done minor pluses, like easier/quicker access to the contacts list. But the HTC dialer is nicer. Not sure I'd say that about Sense overall.
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Its true it depends on what you are used to, but one things for sure if you are used to Sense or came from HTC winmo phone you won't like the Droid as much because of the missing functionality.
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I am running darchstars AOSP2.1 ROM and I have two questions for any enterprising devs, if they have time or can tell me the way to do it.
1)I went from using the stock keyboard to betterkeyboard back to the HTC keyboard. In better keyboard you can adjust the vibration for each keypress to be short, is there a way I can change the HTC keyboard to that as well? I'm not afraid of the command line, but I have no idea where I might start with this.
2)I much prefer the HTC dialer app, with the smart dialing. Is there a way to use that instead of the stock android dialer, or a different dialer replacement that has similar functionality?
Thanks again for any responses!
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I am running darchstars AOSP2.1 ROM and I have two questions for any enterprising devs, if they have time or can tell me the way to do it.
1)I went from using the stock keyboard to betterkeyboard back to the HTC keyboard. In better keyboard you can adjust the vibration for each keypress to be short, is there a way I can change the HTC keyboard to that as well? I'm not afraid of the command line, but I have no idea where I might start with this.
2)I much prefer the HTC dialer app, with the smart dialing. Is there a way to use that instead of the stock android dialer, or a different dialer replacement that has similar functionality?
Thanks again for any responses!
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Basically what you want is Gumbo Bare on 2.1?
I'm also interested in this. I'm playing around with an Odroid running AOSP 2.1, I've gotten google bits to run on it, I found a package that includes the framework etc, and works exactly like it should. Very easy to install.
Finding a similar package for senceUI would be of interest to me.
The ability to take a vanillia AOSP add any flavor I want, google bits, SenceUI, Moto Blur... or anything else would be very nice IMO. Instead of the current... I like this rom because it has.... but I wish it had..... Put it together like lego blocks.
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Basically what you want is Gumbo Bare on 2.1?
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Well, not really. I'm looking for a way to edit the HTC keyboard haptic feedback if there's a way, and to find a replacement dialer for any AOSP ROM since I personally don't like the stock one. The keyboard is a little more important to me, but I was just hoping somebody might know what I'm looking for.
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Well, not really. I'm looking for a way to edit the HTC keyboard haptic feedback if there's a way, and to find a replacement dialer for any AOSP ROM since I personally don't like the stock one. The keyboard is a little more important to me, but I was just hoping somebody might know what I'm looking for.
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Look through the 2.1 compatible MetaMorph themes.
Alright, so I have no experience making a ROM, but I figure I might as well learn. I personally am interested in a ROM for the HD2 that just uses Titanium - none of that messy Sense nonsense - and to the best of my knowledge the current ROM chefs aren't too interested in that.
However, considering I can always just turn off Sense, it seems like a lot of work for just me. Is anyone else out there interested in such a thing? I presume you'd want it based on 6.5.x, not the standard 6.5?
If there's enough interest, I'll get started tonight.
Also, if you are interested, please post what other add-ons you'd want pre-installed. I'd like to keep it fairly basic, and allow users to add their own customizations later, but I figure maybe at least 4-column start menu and slider at the bottom.
Would be a good idea to have one. I'd love to have compatible themes as well for it. It's really tough searching for them as nobody is really into that anymore. Titanium would fly on our phones as HTC Sense for WinMo is pretty slow compared to it's Android counterpart. I ran HTC Sense on my Nexus One and it was crazy fast and the Nexus One has less RAM and ROM space than the HD2
I like to use the phone without Sense, but recently with the Elegancia ROM from steve0007 I have been using it with Sense enabled. When I disable Sense, there is a weird issue on the HD2, and I think I experienced it with other ROMs too, where the default menus don't disappear from the screen once I have tapped what I need. They just stay, blocking the screen, and the only solution is a soft reset. It'd be nice to have the ability to enable and disable Sense at will without an issue like this. A ROM without Sense at all might be a solution but I prefer having both options.
Miri has a couple options out, Titanium only or without both. But you have to go over to that 'other site' to get them.
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Miri has a couple options out, Titanium only or without both. But you have to go over to that 'other site' to get them.
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Just checked it out. Looks like its based on 6.5. Nothing wrong with that per se, but without Sense you lose the HTC apps like contacts, calendar, etc and 6.5.x is a nice upgrade over 6.5 in that area.
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I like to use the phone without Sense, but recently with the Elegancia ROM from steve0007 I have been using it with Sense enabled. When I disable Sense, there is a weird issue on the HD2, and I think I experienced it with other ROMs too, where the default menus don't disappear from the screen once I have tapped what I need. They just stay, blocking the screen, and the only solution is a soft reset. It'd be nice to have the ability to enable and disable Sense at will without an issue like this. A ROM without Sense at all might be a solution but I prefer having both options.
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I'm sorry, can you explain this a little more? I've used stock, Energy, and Kumar's ROMs all with Titanium and I don't think I've seen that one.
I'm using a really basic rom right now with HTC's stuff disabled. I prefer the WinMo 6.5 style today screen, SMS app, and speed. I've tried a bunch of roms and sense just bogs the phone down to the point that they keyboard becomes slow and unresponsive and that drives me bonkers!
FYI - I've been playing around with kitchens, and have what appears to be a stable version of a fast, basic, Titanium-only ROM running on my phone.
I'll play around with it some more to sort out bugs and clean up my kitchen a bit more. Look for a thread with the ROM download in the coming days!
I'm relatively new, and will do a search here shortly, but Titanium? My biggest gripe with this phone is the messaging app. It always lags heavily every time I get a new text, as well as other weird time stamp issues. I would be interested in a ROM w/o the HTC messaging app, and if Titanium is it, them I'm game!
Like I said, I will be searching RIGHT after this about what all this is, and if there's a solution to what I'm looking for now.
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I'm relatively new, and will do a search here shortly, but Titanium? My biggest gripe with this phone is the messaging app. It always lags heavily every time I get a new text, as well as other weird time stamp issues. I would be interested in a ROM w/o the HTC messaging app, and if Titanium is it, them I'm game!
Like I said, I will be searching RIGHT after this about what all this is, and if there's a solution to what I'm looking for now.
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Titanium is the default Windows Mobile 6.5 interface. If you want to see what it looks like - go to the settings tab, hit menu->all settings->today, go to the Items tab, and switch to Windows Default.
And you're in luck - I am using the standard Windows Mobile messaging app as well.
I got a ROM building as I type this, I'll let you guys know how it goes
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I'm sorry, can you explain this a little more? I've used stock, Energy, and Kumar's ROMs all with Titanium and I don't think I've seen that one.
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Here is a link to the ROM: forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=654218
It is for the T-Mobile HD2. It is probably the best looking and most stable I have used on any Windows Mobile phone...and I used MANY on my Touch Pro2.
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Titanium is the default Windows Mobile 6.5 interface. If you want to see what it looks like - go to the settings tab, hit menu->all settings->today, go to the Items tab, and switch to Windows Default.
And you're in luck - I am using the standard Windows Mobile messaging app as well.
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How did you get the standard winmo messaging app? Even after I disabled the sense UI it still used the sense messaging...
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How did you get the standard winmo messaging app? Even after I disabled the sense UI it still used the sense messaging...
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Sense UI and HTC messaging client are different but interdependent.
The HTCmessaging client may still function without sense UI.
If you want windows messaging, try here or need a cooked ROM like my Lite version ROM.
How is this coming along?
Anyone have any links to some Titanium ROMs?
i know nrg always puts out a titanium rom
NRG does have a Titanium Rom, however I have noticed a lot of programs are pre-packaged into the Rom that I would never use.
An Elegancia Titanium Rom would be the best of both worlds in my opinion. No fluff and allows for your own additions. Or a NRG Rom without the extras. Just my .02 in what I would like to see.
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How is this coming along?
Anyone have any links to some Titanium ROMs?
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I would recommend either Energy or Kumar's Titanium ROM, depending on what you're looking for.
I had something that was ok, not great, when the more established ROM chefs started putting out Titanium ROMs, so I figured I'd just leave it up to them.
Do you have a link for Kumars Titanium Rom? I see the Lite version but is that the same as Titanium or is there a separate thread which I am not seeing?
I'm going to download the Energy Rom but have a feeling it will still have too much added for my liking.
hi all
am a new Android owner with a HTC Legend.
one thing thats confusing me is that..yes the system reports the firmware as 2.1
however, of all the Android 2.1 clips I've seen...mostly of the Nexus1, there are 5 home screen pages, saw a diagonal ribbon type thing on a Doid stock 2.1 video, a button to open the apps page instead of the drawer, with the apps page being a 3d wheel kinda thing....and so on.
Now, with the Legend, once HTC Sense is disabled, i get Andoid's original (i think) Home screen. this shows up as 'Home version 7' under Manage applications.
And it's NOTHING like what i've seen of 2.1. it looks basic, not so different from one of the earliest versions that ran on an emulator on windows.
the only thing i can make of this...is that f/w 2.1 and Home version 7 are different things. much like HTC Sense is different from f/w 2.1..in that they're both just skins and can be different versions independent of the f/w as long as its supported to run.
can someone clarify?
thank you.
doesnt anyone know?
I can't seem to find the answer to this anywhere...
HTC Legend doesn't have live wallpapers.
ahh so all that I described is part of the live wallpaper?
thanks for clearing that up
HTC Legend doesn't have a trackball.
MyrdhinM said:
HTC Legend doesn't have a trackball.
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yer im aware of that........
anyway it turns out I mightve been looking at some custom launcher and mistaking them for the default home screen after all..
HTC Legend doesn't have Voice Recognition.
yer and htc legend runs iphoneOS
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HTC Legend doesn't have Voice Recognition.
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Rofl.. That just made my day
I'm under the impression that this forum is now filled with dickheads.
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Hi all,
I had previously an iphone 3GS that i lost, and plan to buy the HTC desire HD. But i just tried the G Nexus One, and find the copy/paste not convenient to see the least, and sometimes even impossible.
I saw that new HTC sense had a similar text selection magnifier as the iPhone, and was wondering if the HTC Desire HD ROM new HTC sense had this feature only in HTC apps or if if it was usable accross all apps (like any text app got from some market)
Especially that i do not see any trackpad on the Desire HD, and what i saw on Nexus One is that text selection is hidden by the finger (ohh big finger hiding such tiny characters!)
Can someone put a video of Desire HD ROM it to see text selection magnifier and copy/paste in action accross other downloaded apps than the stock ones ?
Badly wanted this Desire HD, but might reconsider the excellent tactile reactions of iphone screen and copy/paste feature and buy an iphone4 then
GET DHD
it is a beast phone
yea... still waiting ...
I'll make one now
Okay, now this happens regardless of the OS on the phone - Android, Windows Mobile, or Windows Phone.
Basically, when I start trying to type quickly on the HD2, it can't keep up and starts missing out letters etc. but when typing with the same speed on another phone (e.g. an iPhone or a Galaxy SII) they have no trouble keeping up.
Now, is this a fault with my phone or is it that the touch screen just uses older technology and isn't as responsive?
try to use a "multi touch" keyboard for whatever platform you are using and see if that helps.
i think NO such keyboard exists for WM6.5.
i KNOW several such keyboards exist for Android...the HTC Sense keyboard included in most Sense-based Android roms for the HD2 is NOT multi touch, look for "gingerbread keyboard" on the market place. it also works on froyo roms!
for non-Sense-based Android roms for the HD2, most of them come with the stock gingerbread keyboard out of the box, which IS multi touch. if you are using froyo, see previous paragraph!
i think WP7 keyboard is already multi touch.
finally, the HD2 screen hardware can only handle up to TWO touches, which should be ok for typing fast, provided the keyboard is multi touch.
and, if you are already using a multi touch keyboard but desire a bit more responsiveness, consider disabling prediction, auto correction, typewriter sound, and vibration. some keyboards also support "calibration", so you can run that to see if it can learn your finger tap patterns to tune the keyboard's response.
Thanks for the information.
I've already tried the HTC Sense keyboard (currently running Sense 3.5), Gingerbread keyboard, and ICS keyboard, but none of them seem any better than each other.
I have tried calibrating the Sense keyboard, but you say that it doesn't support multi-touch anyway so it doesn't seem like it will be of much use. I don't use vibration feedback or the typewriter sound ever, but I'd find it hard not to use prediction or auto-correction.
From instinct I'd say that this seems far more likely to be a hardware problem than a software problem, so I think it is probably just that the HD2's screen is only 2-point multi-touch, whereas other phones I've tried like the Galaxy SII are 4+. So there's probably not really anything I can do to change this.
Thanks anyway though
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Okay, now this happens regardless of the OS on the phone - Android, Windows Mobile, or Windows Phone.
Basically, when I start trying to type quickly on the HD2, it can't keep up and starts missing out letters etc. but when typing with the same speed on another phone (e.g. an iPhone or a Galaxy SII) they have no trouble keeping up.
Now, is this a fault with my phone or is it that the touch screen just uses older technology and isn't as responsive?
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hi, i had the same problem before. using swiftkey X will help alot.
otherwise, try to unbox heptic feedback(vibration) on your keyboard...since its (in fact) the vibrations that cant keep up with us fast typers
btw, my girlfriend loves my fast fingers
123Me said:
hi, i had the same problem before. using swiftkey X will help alot.
otherwise, try to unbox heptic feedback(vibration) on your keyboard...since its (in fact) the vibrations that cant keep up with us fast typers
btw, my girlfriend loves my fast fingers
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I bet she does
I actually bought Swiftkey X when it was on sale a while back - I wasn't amazingly impressed but I'll try it again now. Thanks for reminding me.
And yeah, I don't like using vibration on the keyboard anyway so I keep that turned off. Probably saves battery too.