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Do you think think there will be anything in the ios4 that will be very unexpected? I think just the implementation of multitasking will be a big improvement for iphone users. Hopefully froyo will get all Android phones up to the same OS level. I am expecting that Gingerbread to be the version that brings a UI overhaul and many other features.
All this competition will benefit us a lot
it's not the OS, its the apps and android is seriously missing the apps. i want to stick with android so bad but the quality of the apps as compared to iphone is pathetic. i hope this changes or i'll be back to apple.
pnd4pnd said:
it's not the OS, its the apps and android is seriously missing the apps. i want to stick with android so bad but the quality of the apps as compared to iphone is pathetic. i hope this changes or i'll be back to apple.
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I agree with you on that android seriously needs to attract some more app developers. Not switching back to apple though.
pnd4pnd said:
it's not the OS, its the apps and android is seriously missing the apps. i want to stick with android so bad but the quality of the apps as compared to iphone is pathetic. i hope this changes or i'll be back to apple.
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I only partially agree. Which apps are present in the Apple Store that are not present in Android Market are you referring to?
Even if the iPhone 4G isn't better than the Nexus, the news and media will make it so that it is better than the Nexus in every shape way and form. Though, that app thing is true - but I do prefer free over paid. App developers have been iWashed by Apple, they won't switch to Android till they really need to.
Don't see why they won't just port their apps though, that way they would be making twice the money..
Most of the games by Gameloft and EA games arn't on android yet.
where to start...
not available:
cbs sports
southwest airlines
beejive
dish network dvr
quality sucks
facebook
msnbc
usatoday
this is just off the top of my head. i dont care about games whatsoever. even the apps that are there don't have the professional look the iphone apps have. google needs to do something to attract developers....
HEY OHHH.... Let the games begin!
Personally, I am excited to see what the future brings us. I know that no matter what, i will be buying the iPhone HD (supposedly, thats its name), and the next google product. Let the games begin!
Just use a bookmark for SWA. Mobile site looks just like an app.
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where to start...
not available:
cbs sports
southwest airlines
beejive
dish network dvr
quality sucks
facebook
msnbc
usatoday
this is just off the top of my head. i dont care about games whatsoever. even the apps that are there don't have the professional look the iphone apps have. google needs to do something to attract developers....
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Where to start:
Available:
Flyscreen
shopsavy
Goggles
Beatiful Widgets
SetCPU
xScope Browser
GDE
Starfield 3D Live Wallpaper
Gesture Searh
I own a Ipod Touch and I can tell you Android have more useful apps than Iphone,but is safe to say they are even.Now in games is different,Android needs Gameloft.
android has beejive. i just uninstalled it 2 days ago...
android has beejive. i just uninstalled it two days ago
Yeah seriously, the Android Marketplace is pathetic in comparison to the AppStore. Half of the apps are "crapps" that are essentially apps using the built in web-browser going to a website.
There's a browser. What's the point of building an app that just goes to one web-page anyway? If iPhone OS 4.0 gets multi-tasking, that will totally neuter the only advantage Android has over the iPhone.
The app quality is lacking. The media player is crap and Google has no good way for me to sync and manage my media unlike the iPhone. And because it's Google, and their revenue does come from people using their web-services, there will be no incentive for them to favour the Android over the iPhone when it comes to the provision of their services. An example of this would be gmail, contacts and calendars push synchronisation. What used to be a unique feature of the Android phone is now available on the iPhone. Pretty much anything I can do on the Android, I can do on the iPhone.
I prefer the ability to mold the os to my needs not mold my needs to the os. This is the major downfall of the iphone for me and I suspect many others, I just cant fiddle around with it enough to satisfy. Unless that changes the iphone will have to spit out naked & horny supermodels before Im on the wagon. Now assuming THAT happens I will be more than willing to set aside my differences.
Agree with the app issue, it needs to have more developers becoming involved.
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where to start...
not available:
cbs sports
southwest airlines
beejive
dish network dvr
quality sucks
facebook
msnbc
usatoday
this is just off the top of my head. i dont care about games whatsoever. even the apps that are there don't have the professional look the iphone apps have. google needs to do something to attract developers....
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Well if you stay an Android user, you'll continue to build an Android user base.
Once that % of users gets high enough, you'll see that developers realize they ought to port their app to the other system. Hence certain cool apps like Swype, Facebook, Digg realize this and have made apps for both platforms.
So yeah, just stay on Android and support a bit more
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Well if you stay an Android user, you'll continue to build an Android user base.
Once that % of users gets high enough, you'll see that developers realize they ought to port their app to the other system. Hence certain cool apps like Swype, Facebook, Digg realize this and have made apps for both platforms.
So yeah, just stay on Android and support a bit more
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I read an interesting article that a lot of the top iPhone app developers are not working on iPad stuff because they are too focused on developing Android. Android seems to have hit a tipping point, and is taking off really fast and furiously. Give it 6 months to a year, and we won't have anymore fan boys flaming our forums with "we have more apps and a better app store" BS.
Want to talk about pointless apps, App Store has them too... how many fart apps? How many "ring-tone packs" counted as an "app"?
This has just started to spread itself around the web - I got the message via mashable but I then hurried along to the Android Marketplace only to find no such app listed. A friend has a 2.1 Desire and he's got it. Another disappointment for Hero and it's 1.5....
I'm on a 2.1 Rom and it works great
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Yes, i think its the best twitter app for android.
But there is no fullscreen widget for the homescreens (such as HTC Peep)
Only half screen size widget which you can see only one tweet
This epitomises the whole 2.1 debacle.
Its an open UI FFS and the market is evilly fragmented and despondent. Google should be applying pressure here to balance this thing out.
Without them the OS would not exist and the manufs could not 'freeride' on the back of it.
All that money and early adoption. I would have been better off sticking with my Kaiser and then waiting for a 2.1 equipped handset.
The 'Desirers' will be in the same position in 4 months though if HTC have a Legend2 or Infinite or whatever they choose to release
.ducks/rolls. Hey - It's not nice to throw things.
Ok, I know it's been asked a million times, so before you cut my heart out and eat it with buttered toast, hear me out. I understand that pin messaging is on a closed network, I have searched the forums here, and numerous other places, and everyone agrees on the same thing.
Blackberry just released the 4.6 JDE publicly.
There is a website, Web2Pin, that provides free priority 1 messages to blackberries; and offers to design services around the BBM platform, but they charge an extraordinary amount of money and deal only with corporations.
My thoughts are that there has to be a secondary licensing system from blackberry, and that there has to be a way to design third party software, because it's obviously been done.
I'm not Java-wise, nor Android-wise, so my logic is most likely flawed, but I thought I'd put it out there and see what happens.
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.ducks/rolls. Hey - It's not nice to throw things.
Ok, I know it's been asked a million times, so before you cut my heart out and eat it with buttered toast, hear me out. I understand that pin messaging is on a closed network, I have searched the forums here, and numerous other places, and everyone agrees on the same thing.
Blackberry just released the 4.6 JDE publicly.
There is a website, Web2Pin, that provides free priority 1 messages to blackberries; and offers to design services around the BBM platform, but they charge an extraordinary amount of money and deal only with corporations.
My thoughts are that there has to be a secondary licensing system from blackberry, and that there has to be a way to design third party software, because it's obviously been done.
I'm not Java-wise, nor Android-wise, so my logic is most likely flawed, but I thought I'd put it out there and see what happens.
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I'm a long time blackberry user (since the 7100 series) I know this has been talked about several times...I know it has something to do with having a valid pin as thats how bbm communicates with the BIS servers. The program would have to clone a pin or something and be able to ping the server and get access I would think...BlackBerry development has reached several third parties but bbm is a core app and liscensed by RIM so I dont know if or how it could be done would be nice...The final insult to injury lol.
@Sunder74
That's what I had originally thought as well. But I also remember a few years ago when there was a little known, functioning application for WM5 that would do pin messaging (I had tested it while I was working Data Tech at a VZW Call Center).
There's also the up and coming Blackberry Application Suite. It currently only works with BES. I've a hunch that it's probably because they're going to sell pin numbers to corporations or bes server admins.
My other thought is, RIM would probably be more open to selling PIN licenses to individuals if there was a functional, stable piece of software (or base coding) for them to advertise alongside it.
Before the Blackberry App store, I remember going to a website that linked to a bunch of OTA installers grouped by category.
I don't just really want this to work. All the pieces seem to be there. Web2pin proves that the licenses can be purchased and used with bis, somehow. BBAS is about to roll out on WM. It's has to be possible.
I know! I'll sit down in my thinking chair and... Think. Think. Think.
I think the issue here is your all thinking inside the box. Android developers should design there own bbm styled app where android users would get AndroidPins and using the exact framework to create a competition and not a way to just communicate to bb people.
Android Messenger
ver 1.0
Android Pins: A9999-A999999999
Can send msgs threw data just like black berries
Would be free and you could make a donation or pay 1$ for the app
you register your number on the app and you recieve a android pin from the server
and basiclly figure out how to send pushes for when the person recieves and opens and responds to the message
the concept is there for android but i dont think people realize that black berry is like apple they try to close source there stuff which is ok but when android is open source you can litterally work on setting this app to work for communicating with apple iphones maybe blackberries too if you have the skill
just throwin around that idea
I do not know if you have ever noticed this, but bbm is RIM's largest ad campaign. There is very little chance that they would sell bbm PIN's.
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actually theres a app being developed for android its called Hello Messenger. Its already out for iOS and Blackberrys, it works just like bbm, with pin numbers and group chats. Follow them on twitter, @hellomessenger. Also theres a Android beta coming out soon, I signed up for it at http://hellomessenger.com/android/. Tell your friends.
Can't Google Talk be categorized here? Seeing as most Android users are using google accounts? Pingchat is coming to Android soon too http://pingchat.com/
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Can't Google Talk be categorized here? Seeing as most Android users are using google accounts? Pingchat is coming to Android soon too http://pingchat.com/
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Its already out. Search in market
there's also whatsapp
im waiting for WhatsApp it is out for iOS, BBOS, they are developing it for Android 2.1+, WM and S60. It uses your mobile number as your pin so to speak.
Whatsapp is already there. I have it installed on my Desire. You download the app and they have to let you logging, because its a preview, but fully working.
Y will search for the link
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"We have authorized your phone to participate in our beta test. The url for installation is
http:// beta.whatsapp.com/WhatsApp.apk
As this is a very early beta, please let us know if you are able to install successfully Any questions or support go to [email protected] When sending us bugs, please use this route Chats > Menu Settings > About > Contact Us so that we may receive logs at the same time."
Send to them an e-mail saying that you have an android phone and that you want to test their soft and you will get an email similar to that one.
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I get a message saying you are not authorized in the beta. How do i get round that?
You have to send an email to the adress posted before. You have yo tell them that you want to try their soft as beta tester in your android phone.
After few hours/days you will get an email like the one i posted allowing you to use the soft.
I forgot yo say that You have to include in the email your full mobile number (with country code), the same that you use in the app. They use it to activate your app.
Me and my friends used blackberry messenger for the longest time. Mainly the groupchat feature because it was basically a live chat room for only your friends to share pics voice records and randomness. Unfortunately both pinchat and whatsapp do not supply a good group chat. pinchat does have a group chat but its garbage compared to the BBmsger group chat and whatsapp is just flawed. I am still in search for a good group chat program that is also cross platform. or at least on android.
Non-BB users underestimate how much people love BBM. If there's going to be a cross-platform alternative, it has to do everything that BBM does as close to the way BBM does it as possible. PingChat and WhatsApp come close, but they aren't going to win over BBM users with their subtle, but important deficiencies. I'm looking forwards to the Android release of Hello! to compare.
The biggest problem is that BBM comes installed on BlackBerry phones, and it's going to be VERY hard convincing BB users to install something else. Android and iPhone users are more happy to install new apps, but having everyone pick one app and stick with it is a challenge as well.
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Non-BB users underestimate how much people love BBM. If there's going to be a cross-platform alternative, it has to do everything that BBM does as close to the way BBM does it as possible. PingChat and WhatsApp come close, but they aren't going to win over BBM users with their subtle, but important deficiencies. I'm looking forwards to the Android release of Hello! to compare.
The biggest problem is that BBM comes installed on BlackBerry phones, and it's going to be VERY hard convincing BB users to install something else. Android and iPhone users are more happy to install new apps, but having everyone pick one app and stick with it is a challenge as well.
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Why not try ICQ, throwing a homage to the original IM. Its got native clients for most, if not all platforms. Its even usually listed as a quick install link on BB. Facebook chat is integrated (on desktop and Android versions, don't knpw about Java/Symbian and iOS). You get a number for anti-spaming (like a PIN if you REALLY want to emulate BB).
Yes, some would say "just use X IM app then." But its the only one with native support other than fring. And I find fring clumsy, plus does not have a desktop version.
I have BBM on my work BB. And I know that its superior in a lot of ways, but willing to bet that the reason a lot of features aren't being duplicated are likely legal, not technical, reasons. So I think this is a viable option until whatsapp or others have the kinks worked out (have yet to have a successful convo in 2 days!). Maybe with enough interest they can get the things we want added.
there is app called crosstalk
but i don't know when they will release it
it's written in the official site it will com at the end of aug
but tell now nothing!!!
check this site for more info
http://www.blueplanetapps.com/products/CrossTalk.aspx
2 quick questions..
Why doesn't google talk use the new google push?(would save battery)
Also can't some one use the new push service google made to power a chat program?
http://code.google.com/apis/feed/push/
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? Hmm.. any one?
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Pmessenger , how do they use this?
http://www.pmessenger.net/faq
http://www.androlib.com/android.application.com-hambelsoftware-pm-iAwD.aspx
Just like the BBM for Blackberry...oh and your welcome
seems like a good app. there is also pingchat2 which is beta right now n im testing it n it works pretty good. chat between bb users, android users n iphone users, group chat also. just gotta figure out a way to chat directly to bbm, i no its a closed protocol, but that would be cool.
It would be a cool application for someone who -
1 - Doesn't have unlimited texts
2 - Has numerous contacts with Android, BB or iPhones
IMHO, might be pretty pointless if you have unlimited messaging.
Either way if you want to give it a shot, post some feedback about it
I've been testing pmessenger for a while now on my blackberry, iphone, and droid. I'm trying to develop something better kinda a bit closer to blackberry messenger.
I'm currently an Android phone user. I have windows 8 on my PC. And I have watched so many WP7.5 and WP8 videos.
Simple question: Why same apps on windows phone don't have many options in the app settings?
I am not talking about "Color Pallete", or "custom ringtones". I do not want them, I can live without them. But still Android stock apps have more options compared to WP stock apps. For eg Gmail stock app gives options like " Sync inboxes and labels" to select labels to sync (only those labels which you want) , then "Signature"
Windows mail app on Windows 8 is very very basic. How is email app for WP8?
And is there this thing true in any sense that WP8 apps provide fewer options (may be app developers also following minimalistic approach from Microsoft).
Also those using WP7.5 or WP8, suppose you just turned on your WP8, and you didn't open email app. So if you get a new email, will the app notify you. I mean you didn't open email app, but will it keep checking my email in background? Is this possible for 3rd party email client apps?
Please provide answer, I want to buy WP8.
You do have more settings in android apps but do you really use them? the answer is...really no.
The email app in wp7.5 is great. The email app in WP8 is also great. The email app in W8 sucks balls, although it is useful for quickly checking the email.
The email will be updated in background. It is called a background task. Don't worry, you won't lose anything over your android phone.
GMail is a special case - there are no "Labels" on any other E-Mail services so an E-Mail-client that is not GMail-only obviously doesn't have those.
Aside from that E-Mail checking in the background (and via Push) works without problems although this is only true for the system mail app. You would not be able to realize sync intervals < 30 minutes for alternative Apps - guess that is why there are none.
Yes, windows phone apps in general have a lot less options and functionality. The goal is simplicity at the sacrifice of functionality. I would say if you are looking for as many options and functions as possible, stick with Android.
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You do have more settings in android apps but do you really use them? the answer is...really no.
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I would not be so quick to suggest that users don't use features / options. If you're talking specifically about Gmail, maaaybe I can buy it. But I am a heavy business user, and I can tell you I customize many of my apps. Gmail is a bad example... Exchange email and the options for Exchange on Android would probably be a better one.
I prefer AOSP for it's size and simplicity from a GUI perspective, but I also download tons of apps I've found to be better than stock.
I considered a move to WP8, but in my opinion, WP8 just doesn't cut it from an app perspective on any level. I will take flexibility over simplicity any day of the week. I hope WP* matures to be a strong alternative to Android / Apple (I've never owned an apple product), but it just isn't there yet.
Simple answer: development is half-assed for WP.
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^ has the xda WP app improved any?
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Nope. After I bought this app, much like WP7, the development stopped.
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mcosmin222 said:
You do have more settings in android apps but do you really use them? the answer is...really no.
The email app in wp7.5 is great. The email app in WP8 is also great. The email app in W8 sucks balls, although it is useful for quickly checking the email.
The email will be updated in background. It is called a background task. Don't worry, you won't lose anything over your android phone.
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wait, losing options to view different folders and boxes -is- an issue. loosing the ability to sync which email addy, at different intervals -is- an issue. more settings (or more importantly, LOSING those settings) -is- definitely an issue. having the flexibility to decide what happens is what makes a smartphone, smart.
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Nope. After I bought this app, much like WP7, the development stopped.
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Agreed. The Android version to this app is great, but the WP version is useless. The Board Express app for WP is much better. If app development really picks up, WP will take off in the eyes of consumers.
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Has board express improved any? Has it gained official tapatalk support?
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Does WP8 have good equaliser like DSP MANGER found in CM7 rooms on android?
I think DSP is the best Equalizer ever on any device or OS.
How do the Nokia Equaliser in WP8 compare with DSP on android?
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You shouldn't need an equaliser. No phone or MP3 should need one. You only need one to make up for bad headphones or lousy DAC.
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Agreed. The Android version to this app is great, but the WP version is useless. The Board Express app for WP is much better. If app development really picks up, WP will take off in the eyes of consumers.
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It's strange, because the XDA WP7 app is literally just the rebranded Board express. But the board express app is better and has significantly less bugs. From where I'm sitting, it looks like the person in charge of the XDA app doesn't actually need to do any coding, he just needs to push through updates from board express but hasn't bothered to. Or maybe board express doesn't give free updates, in which case their "package" is a joke.
They did the same thing with the android version. Copy of Tapatalk.
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You shouldn't need an equaliser. No phone or MP3 should need one. You only need one to make up for bad headphones or lousy DAC.
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Does that mean "no" or "I don't know" ?
Apourv, the Nokia Equalizer on WP8 is decent. It is not as good in terms of versatility and options as DSP, mostly because of both the hardware and software restrictions. Still, it is a marked improvement over what was there is 7.5. Audio wise, WP8 is a better move forward...for example I don't need the volume as loud on the Lumia 810 as I did with the Focus S during commutes. Comparing Dolby to Dolby, what was found in the Lumia 810 is years ahead quality wise of the HTC Mozart. I don't claim to be an audiophile but the sound is cleaner and more natural. I think as much as some think it is a gimmick, walking into a store and listening to music on a HTC One device vs a HTC 8X should show you that WP8 is an audio improvement.
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The idea is to support the necessary functionality but not to add loads of crap on top of that. Many developers (myself included) belief that your App should be tailored to a specific use case and try to fullfill that as best as it can.
Setting sync intervals for every account is of course possible and of course you can select subfolders to be synced (although it gets tricky to unselect them later). Also you can directly pin subfolder to your start screen if you e.g. have one that contains Very High Priroity E-Mails. And of course E-Mail checks in the background for the system App.
In the end the core functionalities reguarly are there but some add-ons or more complicated settings are often removed and replaced with an often reasonable default.
On my phone, I often download web pages on my PC and transfer them to my SD card so I can read them later on my phone on the go.
On WP8 there's no file explorer. Also no alternate browser like Opera, so Absolutely No possibility of that on WP8.
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On my phone, I often download web pages on my PC and transfer them to my SD card so I can read them later on my phone on the go.
On WP8 there's no file explorer. Also no alternate browser like Opera, so Absolutely No possibility of that on WP8.
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Basically, everything you did manually can be done some other way on WP8. A little bit of research goes a long way... There are many services that do what you just described; get a pocket (formerly read it later) account. Get an app for it. Done.
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