I know that there was a way to force the user-agent to display as desktop in other android phones, i.e. go into browser, type "about:debug" in the address bar, go into setting, then UA then select desktop. I tried this on my new Vibrant cause I was sick of it defaulting to the mobile sites and it caused automatic FC in the browser. Had to clear browser data to get it working again. Anybody have other ideas on how to do this?
Not sure how to do it on the stock browser, but I know that Skyfire browser has a toggle button built in for this.
Yeah I guess that most other browsers do. Stock browser = Fail.
I have dolphin browser and skyfire installed so I can open BBC in full.
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Is there an easy way to make all pages 'think' that the browser is a desktop? Like if I go to google.com I want it to take me to classic instantly, and any other sites that automatically adjust to mobile sites if it detects a phone.
If you use Dolphin Browser you can set the user agent to desktop and it will load all pages that way.
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How does dolphin compare to the stock browser?
Dolphin HD is slow in my opinion, you could also try opera mini 5.1.
I still prefer the stock browser.
here is a trick to always view your favorite websites in desktop view. I don't know how to make every site open as desktop, just your most frequent ones.
Go to a website.. such as www.google.com
it will auto open mobile view...scroll down in the website and click on desktop. once desktop view opens.. set this page as a bookmark... now everytime you access the pg via bookmark, it will go to desktop view.
another option, if you want to set google.com desktop as your homepage.
again click desktop, when desktop google comes up, copy the link, paste this new link as your homepage. and your phone will automatically go into desktop google everytime you open your browser.
you can bookmark many webpages, so just set up your most favoritely frequented sites to be bookmarked as desktop view. simple!
There is a code you can enter into your browser that gives you more settings. One of those is the ability to make your phone appear as a desktop, not a phone.
However, I tried this and my browser crashed and I had to delete all data and cache to get it to work again. This DID work on the Nexus One when flash came out (allowed us to watch hulu.com)
The string is about:debug, then go to web settings. Last option is ua string. Change to desktop. Again though, I DO NOT recommend doing this.
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There is a code you can enter into your browser that gives you more settings. One of those is the ability to make your phone appear as a desktop, not a phone.
However, I tried this and my browser crashed and I had to delete all data and cache to get it to work again. This DID work on the Nexus One when flash came out (allowed us to watch hulu.com)
The string is about:debug, then go to web settings. Last option is ua string. Change to desktop. Again though, I DO NOT recommend doing this.
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Can't seem to find this option :S
I don't know about everyone esle but i like SKYFIRE browser from the market: allows you to choose between Android, Desktop or Iphone i think as your default loading method. It's very speedy to load in desktop mode. Try that out
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I don't know about everyone esle but i like SKYFIRE browser from the market: allows you to choose between Android, Desktop or Iphone i think as your default loading method. It's very speedy to load in desktop mode. Try that out
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Yep, this works well. A few pages still detect the presence of a mobile browser, but 9 out of 10 pages load the desktop versions.
I always experienced Skyfire on other phones as laggy. Does it run as fast as Android stock browser?
Okay so I did the about:debug in the stock android browser, then went into the more setting and changed the uaprof to desktop. Yet, sites like ebay, and stuff keep coming up as the mobile version even after clearing cache, history, and anything else I could to try to solve this issue. The odd part is the Eris, and Incredible don't fully have the issue as once it is set to desktop the browser mainly goes to desktop pages vs what the X does. Any ideas how to solve this issue? Google was no real help I don't think. Thankies.
Edit: do I need to check normal rendering to have this work correctly?
I know that Skyfire Browser has an option to quickly toggle between the Mobile and Desktop version of websites
I've recently received my DHD and noticed that the internet browsing experience is slightly different than what I used to with Opera on Windows Mobile (HD2).
One of the specific annoyances I had was trying to force the full site to load rather than mobile versions of sites (eg. Engadget vs. Engadget Mobile).
Even choosing to view the "Full Version" of certain websites I am still redirected to view mobile versions - not presented with the versions that would appear on a Desktop browser.
I have done some searching in XDA (and the web) and the only thing I was able to find were references to WindowsMobile to change the Custom User-Agent under User Prefs (In Opera Browser type, "Opera:Config" -> User Prefs -> Custom User-Agent). I have changed this but it does not appear to work.
I came across http://www.zytrax.com/tech/web/browser_ids.htm but am not sure which Browser string I should try to use.
(Have tried IE settings as well as identifying my current desktop browser setting - Chrome - and inserting that) Additionally, I have also attempted to change the User Agent ("Opera:Config" -> User Agent) by incrementing the number and that does not appear to work either.
Attempting to connect to "About:debug" (in hopes of seeing some other settings somewhere) tells me that it failed to connect to the debugger at the default address/port.
I'm a little stuck as to where to go from here.
Has anyone else experienced this or managed to amend successfully?
Well, after further searching I still haven't been able to have the Opera Browser default to show me a Desktop view of web pages that seem to aggressively divert you to mobile versions of their sites.
However, I did download Dolphin Browser HD from the market and the settings page listed this as an option that works very well.
Based on my short experience with it, I actually think DolphinHD is actually a much better choice of browser for Android.
I see a lot of folks complaining about a poor web browsing experience. Perhaps this will help.......
There is a hidden settings menu that you can access by doing the following:
* type "about:debug" in the URL line and press enter/go
* select the "settings" menu (squiggle lines) top right corner
* select Debug, UA, and Desktop
* back out of this and again type "about:debug" in the URL line
This should tell other websites to display web pages in a non-mobile format. I have not yet tried, Netflix, Hulu, etc... but I believe these sites will work properly thus removing the need for the android apps. Please confirm.
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I see a lot of folks complaining about a poor web browsing experience. Perhaps this will help.......
There is a hidden settings menu that you can access by doing the following:
* type "about:debug" in the URL line and press enter/go
* select the "settings" menu (squiggle lines) top right corner
* select Debug, UA, and Desktop
* back out of this and again type "about:debug" in the URL line
This should permanently tell other websites to display web pages in a non-mobile format. I have not yet tried, Netflix, Hulu, etc... but I believe these sites will work properly thus removing the need for the android apps. Please confirm.
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Works fine but we need something that is permanent, have to do this everey time browser has been killed
I know I know....
I just minimize the browser and it holds me until I reboot...
just close the browser
the setting are kept...
I ve done this a while before, and didn't have to change to desktop again after...
but for me that option should be... in setting directly and not in a debug mode
works fine...therenare also options for rendering.."render single cloumn"nsounds interesting
I can't get this to work with Hulu, though. I have the latest flash installed, as well as the latest Adobe Air, and when I go to Hulu, I am still told that my platform is not supported at this time.
Can anyone confirm that it is working with Hulu and the stock browser? How about with Dolphin or even Mozilla?
it just does not work, it always goes to the default page it is not accepting about:debug any ideas??
thx
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it just does not work, it always goes to the default page it is not accepting about:debug any ideas??
thx
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After you type about:debug nothing will change. Select the menu square in the upper right hand corner of your browser. Select settings. Then select debug. The setting for the ua string are in there.
thx alot mate, looks mich better know.
You can use Dolphin HD. It uses the same rendering engine (which means flash enabled) and can set the user agent to desktop permanently.
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I can't get this to work with Hulu, though. I have the latest flash installed, as well as the latest Adobe Air, and when I go to Hulu, I am still told that my platform is not supported at this time.
Can anyone confirm that it is working with Hulu and the stock browser? How about with Dolphin or even Mozilla?
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you are correct.... hulu reads that you are using the mobile flash even in desktop ua
I use dolphin HD it has that option in its setttings.
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Dolphin sucks in a major way. They even acknowledge that they have a known bug with web pages simply not opening.
Can't use Netflix because Silverlight needs to be installed and as far as I know that can only be done on a tab running Windows.
The setting stays in my browser even after boot, thanks for the tip.
The setting stays for me, but I always have to type about:debug to get websites to detect it correctly.
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The setting stays for me, but I always have to type about:debug to get websites to detect it correctly.
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I too have to do the same thing. I'm not sure if this will be fixed with 3.1. On my thunderbolt it always works and loads full pages instead of mobile.
Is there away we can use Tasker to set something every time we open a web page.
about:debug did not work for me (stock browser no OTA update).
When I select the settings menu I have additional options for "Dump navigation cache" and "Dump V8 counters" but not a Debug option.
Am I missing something?
UPDATE: Ugh! I just realized I needed to select settings FROM the menu - sorry!
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Can't use Netflix because Silverlight needs to be installed and as far as I know that can only be done on a tab running Windows.
The setting stays in my browser even after boot, thanks for the tip.
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Maybe in a browser, but there is an app for that - I have Netflix on my Evo. There's about a half dozen Android devices that can run Netflix and many others are able to trick Netflix by making it think it is a different device.
Ok, I have read literally hundreds of posts concerning desktop vs mobile mode in the browser. I have tried several browsers, and have switched them all into desktop mode via the settings. But, none, including the stock browser and Dolphin seem to work as promised. So, I have several questions:
1. What is it that allows a website to recognize an android phone or tablet and an
ipod touch as a mobile device?
2. Is there any way to permanently change "whatever" so that all websites
recognize my tablet and ipod touch as a desktop?
I'm using opera mobile and all pages works fine on desktop mode
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I'm using opera mobile and all pages works fine on desktop mode
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I tried one version of Opera last week and had no luck. Today, I downloaded Opera Mobile as you suggested and it worked just fine. Thanks for the suggestion.
But, the still should be a permanent fix for all Browsers. And, I would still like to know how a website recognizes a mobile device.
I believe they check the OS, not the browser, then redirect accordingly.
Running Honney Vil and stock browser and not seeing that problem, so probably does check the os, don't really know.
This is all based on what your browser "broadcasts" to the web server. I remember way back in the day, some custom ROMs had an option in the settings menu, even on the native browser, to set your browser type to one of many options, including "Android OS", "BlackBerry", "IE", "FireFox" etc... Most web sites are the ones in control of which page to display to you based on what browser it detects hitting the page. Below is an example of one of my web site's access log
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[IP Masked} - - [24/Aug/2011:14:55:57 -0400] "GET /forums/viewtopic.php?p=28441 HTTP/1.1" 200 11347 "-" "Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; Baiduspider/2.0; +http://www.baidu.com/search/spider.html)"
[IP Masked] - - [24/Aug/2011:14:56:09 -0400] "POST /forums/posting.php?mode=reply&f=11&t=2900 HTTP/1.1" 200 3144 "http://[URL Masked]/forums/posting.php?mode=reply&f=11&t=2900" "Mozilla/5.0 (Linux; U; Android 2.3.3; en-us; DROID X2 Build/4.5.1A-DTN-117-15) AppleWebKit/533.1 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/4.0 Mobile Safari/533.1"
It's from those logs where it says things like "Android 2.3.3" that tells a server which site to load. Unfortunately, most developers have hard coded anything as "Android" to be shown the mobile browser. Other browsers, like Dolphin and Opera, are either broadcasting a different type of browser, or give the option to.
I have the settings in the stock browser set to viewing mode:desktop (under the advanced tab of the browser settings) and have not come accross any pages that get redirected to mobile. I'm running stock 3.1
Right, you send USER_AGENT info when you connect to a site and based on that - typically what the OS is - the site can redirect.
With 3.0.1 you had to type about:debug in the browser to get the debug menu in settings and there you could change the user agent string. In 3.1 we have that in the advanced menu but I still prefer the old way;-). Don't forget to clear the cache after you do that because the browser might have cached the redirect to the mobile site.
Thanks for all the info. I have the stock browser, Dolphin and Opera Mobile. I have the user agent configured to Desktop in all 3 browsers. All 3 work on most, but not all sites. Only Opera works on all sites that I have tried. It is very disconcerting for sure as I really prefer the stock browser.
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Thanks for all the info. I have the stock browser, Dolphin and Opera Mobile. I have the user agent configured to Desktop in all 3 browsers. All 3 work on most, but not all sites. Only Opera works on all sites that I have tried. It is very disconcerting for sure as I really prefer the stock browser.
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Well, then it goes back to what I posted about the web sites themselves properly delivering the right site based on the user agent (thanks for reminding me of the name user agent gammaRascal!). The web designer has to write code to account for all the various user agents.
There are some other differences too. Try this website in the stock browser,
dolphin and Opera: http://newyork.yankees.mlb.com/index.jsp?c_id=nyy
With the stock browser, the standings right below the picture on the left, is not complete.
with Dolphin, all looks like as on my PC.
with Opera, the page does not fit the screen.