I've recently received my DHD and noticed that the internet browsing experience is slightly different than what I used to with Opera on Windows Mobile (HD2).
One of the specific annoyances I had was trying to force the full site to load rather than mobile versions of sites (eg. Engadget vs. Engadget Mobile).
Even choosing to view the "Full Version" of certain websites I am still redirected to view mobile versions - not presented with the versions that would appear on a Desktop browser.
I have done some searching in XDA (and the web) and the only thing I was able to find were references to WindowsMobile to change the Custom User-Agent under User Prefs (In Opera Browser type, "Opera:Config" -> User Prefs -> Custom User-Agent). I have changed this but it does not appear to work.
I came across http://www.zytrax.com/tech/web/browser_ids.htm but am not sure which Browser string I should try to use.
(Have tried IE settings as well as identifying my current desktop browser setting - Chrome - and inserting that) Additionally, I have also attempted to change the User Agent ("Opera:Config" -> User Agent) by incrementing the number and that does not appear to work either.
Attempting to connect to "About:debug" (in hopes of seeing some other settings somewhere) tells me that it failed to connect to the debugger at the default address/port.
I'm a little stuck as to where to go from here.
Has anyone else experienced this or managed to amend successfully?
Well, after further searching I still haven't been able to have the Opera Browser default to show me a Desktop view of web pages that seem to aggressively divert you to mobile versions of their sites.
However, I did download Dolphin Browser HD from the market and the settings page listed this as an option that works very well.
Based on my short experience with it, I actually think DolphinHD is actually a much better choice of browser for Android.
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I go to youtube.com but it redirects to 'http://m.youtube.com/?client=mv-vf-uk'. When I click on 'View desktop version' it justs redirects me to that same site.
When I copy the link location of the 'View desktop version' link it is actually 'http://www.youtube.com/?nomobile=1&client=mv-vf-uk&gl=GB&hl=en-GB'
I have tried 'http://www.youtube.com/?nomobile=GB&hl=en-GB' and 'http://www.youtube.com/?nomobile' but they still redirect me to to 'http://m.youtube.com/?client=mv-vf-uk'
Does anyone have a solution to my problem?
Do a search on the forum to change your "user agent".
Currently websites are detecting that you are on a mobile device and re-directs you to a mobile version of the site if available.
Changing your user agent will full the website into thinking your another device instead.
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I can get the full youtube site on my xperia, but it won't play any of the videos when i select them. Any ideas to what i could do?
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antmagpie said:
I can get the full youtube site on my xperia, but it won't play any of the videos when i select them. Any ideas to what i could do?
Thanks
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search a few pages back for desktop youtube / flash on the xperia.
i can goto youtube.com - pick any video and it plays straight in the page in opera, works a treat.
Incidentally, when youtube detects your on a mobile, there is a "View desktop version" url at the bottom of the page - same with most sites.
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Do a search on the forum to change your "user agent".
Currently websites are detecting that you are on a mobile device and re-directs you to a mobile version of the site if available.
Changing your user agent will full the website into thinking your another device instead.
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you wouldnt happen to have the link would you? when i search for user agent it comes up with too many results to sort thru
Did a quick search on google and i changed the value of HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Internet Settings\5.0\User Agent\Platform to Windows NT 5.0 and then Windows NT 5.1 but neither of them worked. I performed a soft reset after each registy change.
I have also gone into about:config on Opera and channged the 'User Agent' feild to 3 to spoof sites into thinking that its IE6 but it still doesnt work'.I also performed a soft reset after this.
Any ideas on this one? There must be other people out there with Vodafone X1s who are having/solved this problem
My Vodafone X1 with a Vodafone SIM reaches normal YouTube just fine. Think I just clicked on the link at the bottom of the mobile version.
Saying that, I can't actually watch the video, just get a grey screen and after a while some RGB bars.
Really? That sucks ass, mine just keeps going to the mobile version with the webpage http://m.youtube.com/?client=mv-vf-uk... very annoying.
Try installing http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=127398&d=1225817419
Sthoeft said all he did was install that and he coud view the videos on the full youtube site
Solution:
- Clear cache and cookies in opera
- close Opera
- Retry, but click on "Show Desktop version" at the youtube landing page.
Worked for me.
Are you sure you don't have "mobile view" ticked in settings?
Find show desktop version and install myflash on your device, then youtube works on your pc.
Has anyone with a Voda UK device managed to get this working? I'm still constantly getting redirected to m.youtube.com, etc.
steelydan said:
Has anyone with a Voda UK device managed to get this working? I'm still constantly getting redirected to m.youtube.com, etc.
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type opera:config into the address bar and then change the user agent there.
i changed the user agent to 3 and then had to change another setting but i can't remember exactly what it was - it was pretty obvious (it had vodafone in the string) and was in user prefs if i remember ...
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type opera:config into the address bar and then change the user agent there.
i changed the user agent to 3 and then had to change another setting but i can't remember exactly what it was - it was pretty obvious (it had vodafone in the string) and was in user prefs if i remember ...
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Changed that settings and removed the custom user agent string under "user prefs" and now not getting redirected!
Cheers!
a couple of comments;
1. My X1i can access desktop version of Youtube w/o modifying any registry setting. Yes, first time when you access it'll bring you to the mobile version instead (m.youtube.com), but there should be a link (very small print though, you need to scan through to pick it up) in the mobile page that will enables you to jump to the desktop version. You shouldn't be required to modify your X1i in order for that to happen.
2. Even if you can go to the desktop version, you won't be able to play the video if you do not have Flashlite 3.1 installed. Do a google, once you install, you will be able to play the youtube video like you would on your PC/desktop.
3. A more efficient way to access *ALL* the youtube videos will be using an application specifically designed to access Youtube. Do a google in this forum, there's a tried and tested Youtube application that works on X1i.
4. LAstly, if you really need to find the setting to inform the site that your device is not X1i, User String may not necessary be the only value that the web site would look. See this link http://www.ppcsg.com/index.php?showtopic=103290&pid=766907&st=0&#entry766907
I think what people fail to mention is that the full Youtube website works over wi-fi just fine.. though when connected through hsdpa/gprs (via vodafone live) we automatically get redirected to the mobile version of the website, no matter what.
This is also why the "youtubeplay" app cannot access the cookie for FLV playback.
Has anyone found a way around this problem?
On your phone go to live.vodafone.com, then go to Info -> My Phone Bill. In there you will find "Web Preferences". Change the display option to "Do not adapt any sites".
Hope this helps.
Scott
RoleX1 said:
I think what people fail to mention is that the full Youtube website works over wi-fi just fine.. though when connected through hsdpa/gprs (via vodafone live) we automatically get redirected to the mobile version of the website, no matter what.
This is also why the "youtubeplay" app cannot access the cookie for FLV playback.
Has anyone found a way around this problem?
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can explain more about the problem?
I dont' have any problem using the youtube app to access all the youtube videos.
The Voda X1 are set to use the Wap APN instead of the Internet one, which makes some third party apps which connect to the internet not work correctly. Try changing Settings -> Connections -> Connections -> Advance -> Select Networks to WEB
I don't know if anyone else has tried this, but the google box that you can bring up on the Sense tab (the one for internet) is different than the one when you open the Opera Browser that is right under the address bar. The difference between the two is the one on the Sense tab gives you the results of the search, but anytime you click on any of the links for your results its TEXT ONLY. The one on the Opera Browser has links that takes you to the site, but still lets it stay as a "desktop" looking site. Anyone know why it does that? Is it a glitch? Can it be fixed?
I agree. I would like to know as well.
In the tab: you can change it in registry to the following and it will do every google search in desktop version :
google.com/search?hl=en-US&output=html&q=%s
however, if you are in the browser already, and did a google search, it will come up in mobile search results.
How can we change the one in browser to desktop searchers?
Hmm never noticed this before,might be a good idea to
change it to give proper search results
The search bar that you refer to invokes Google's specilaized mobile view rendering service. Essentially what Google does is to take all the websites out there and convert them to a mobile friendly version before diplaying it on your screen.
That's why it is different from the Desktop View and even the Opera Mobile View because Google is dong the conversion, not the browser.
It's quite handy if you want quick access to text information.
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How can we change the one in browser to desktop searchers?
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custom user agent.
as you are now opera is telling google it is a mobile browser. spoof for example the FireFox desktop use agent and you will see desktop google.
as for the search tab, as mentioned above you can force the results and even use a different search engine if you like.
more details here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=656897
Is there an easy way to make all pages 'think' that the browser is a desktop? Like if I go to google.com I want it to take me to classic instantly, and any other sites that automatically adjust to mobile sites if it detects a phone.
If you use Dolphin Browser you can set the user agent to desktop and it will load all pages that way.
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How does dolphin compare to the stock browser?
Dolphin HD is slow in my opinion, you could also try opera mini 5.1.
I still prefer the stock browser.
here is a trick to always view your favorite websites in desktop view. I don't know how to make every site open as desktop, just your most frequent ones.
Go to a website.. such as www.google.com
it will auto open mobile view...scroll down in the website and click on desktop. once desktop view opens.. set this page as a bookmark... now everytime you access the pg via bookmark, it will go to desktop view.
another option, if you want to set google.com desktop as your homepage.
again click desktop, when desktop google comes up, copy the link, paste this new link as your homepage. and your phone will automatically go into desktop google everytime you open your browser.
you can bookmark many webpages, so just set up your most favoritely frequented sites to be bookmarked as desktop view. simple!
There is a code you can enter into your browser that gives you more settings. One of those is the ability to make your phone appear as a desktop, not a phone.
However, I tried this and my browser crashed and I had to delete all data and cache to get it to work again. This DID work on the Nexus One when flash came out (allowed us to watch hulu.com)
The string is about:debug, then go to web settings. Last option is ua string. Change to desktop. Again though, I DO NOT recommend doing this.
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There is a code you can enter into your browser that gives you more settings. One of those is the ability to make your phone appear as a desktop, not a phone.
However, I tried this and my browser crashed and I had to delete all data and cache to get it to work again. This DID work on the Nexus One when flash came out (allowed us to watch hulu.com)
The string is about:debug, then go to web settings. Last option is ua string. Change to desktop. Again though, I DO NOT recommend doing this.
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Can't seem to find this option :S
I don't know about everyone esle but i like SKYFIRE browser from the market: allows you to choose between Android, Desktop or Iphone i think as your default loading method. It's very speedy to load in desktop mode. Try that out
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I don't know about everyone esle but i like SKYFIRE browser from the market: allows you to choose between Android, Desktop or Iphone i think as your default loading method. It's very speedy to load in desktop mode. Try that out
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Yep, this works well. A few pages still detect the presence of a mobile browser, but 9 out of 10 pages load the desktop versions.
I always experienced Skyfire on other phones as laggy. Does it run as fast as Android stock browser?
Google is Your Friend. I googled it and Here Is the Istructions. I Tried it and It Works Perfect. After These Steps Opera Will Open Full Desktop Web Pages. Opera is One of The Only Browsers That has like NO Typing Lag so This is Very Useful (To me Atleast) Here it Is:
1. Install the Opera Desktop browser on a computer (opera.com)
2. In Address Bar Type opera:about
3. Copy the exact user agent onto a piece of paper (Or Notepad)
4. Install the Opera Mobile browser (from android market)
5. On Tablet Address Bar Type opera:config (In Opera Mobile Browser)
6. Go to User Prefs and Find Custom User Agent
7. Copy the Opera Desktop User Agent you wrote down onto The Custom User Agent Box
8. Push Save and Restart Opera Mobile.
Now All Web Pages open In Full Desktop Mode. Enjoy. Flash Still Doesnt Work but This is Still the Fastest Web Browser for HC Tablets Atm.
Edite : This is just the steps I took. Other User Agents should work fine too i.e Internet explorer or Firefox. ***
To those lazy people, just input some random useragent and it should work fine for 99% sites out there (with the exception of some that ONLY accepts a certain browser (mostly IE only)). This will cause statistic collection to have weird entries of browsers being used depending on the useragent you pick
Ok, I have read literally hundreds of posts concerning desktop vs mobile mode in the browser. I have tried several browsers, and have switched them all into desktop mode via the settings. But, none, including the stock browser and Dolphin seem to work as promised. So, I have several questions:
1. What is it that allows a website to recognize an android phone or tablet and an
ipod touch as a mobile device?
2. Is there any way to permanently change "whatever" so that all websites
recognize my tablet and ipod touch as a desktop?
I'm using opera mobile and all pages works fine on desktop mode
xamilek555 said:
I'm using opera mobile and all pages works fine on desktop mode
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I tried one version of Opera last week and had no luck. Today, I downloaded Opera Mobile as you suggested and it worked just fine. Thanks for the suggestion.
But, the still should be a permanent fix for all Browsers. And, I would still like to know how a website recognizes a mobile device.
I believe they check the OS, not the browser, then redirect accordingly.
Running Honney Vil and stock browser and not seeing that problem, so probably does check the os, don't really know.
This is all based on what your browser "broadcasts" to the web server. I remember way back in the day, some custom ROMs had an option in the settings menu, even on the native browser, to set your browser type to one of many options, including "Android OS", "BlackBerry", "IE", "FireFox" etc... Most web sites are the ones in control of which page to display to you based on what browser it detects hitting the page. Below is an example of one of my web site's access log
Code:
[IP Masked} - - [24/Aug/2011:14:55:57 -0400] "GET /forums/viewtopic.php?p=28441 HTTP/1.1" 200 11347 "-" "Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; Baiduspider/2.0; +http://www.baidu.com/search/spider.html)"
[IP Masked] - - [24/Aug/2011:14:56:09 -0400] "POST /forums/posting.php?mode=reply&f=11&t=2900 HTTP/1.1" 200 3144 "http://[URL Masked]/forums/posting.php?mode=reply&f=11&t=2900" "Mozilla/5.0 (Linux; U; Android 2.3.3; en-us; DROID X2 Build/4.5.1A-DTN-117-15) AppleWebKit/533.1 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/4.0 Mobile Safari/533.1"
It's from those logs where it says things like "Android 2.3.3" that tells a server which site to load. Unfortunately, most developers have hard coded anything as "Android" to be shown the mobile browser. Other browsers, like Dolphin and Opera, are either broadcasting a different type of browser, or give the option to.
I have the settings in the stock browser set to viewing mode:desktop (under the advanced tab of the browser settings) and have not come accross any pages that get redirected to mobile. I'm running stock 3.1
Right, you send USER_AGENT info when you connect to a site and based on that - typically what the OS is - the site can redirect.
With 3.0.1 you had to type about:debug in the browser to get the debug menu in settings and there you could change the user agent string. In 3.1 we have that in the advanced menu but I still prefer the old way;-). Don't forget to clear the cache after you do that because the browser might have cached the redirect to the mobile site.
Thanks for all the info. I have the stock browser, Dolphin and Opera Mobile. I have the user agent configured to Desktop in all 3 browsers. All 3 work on most, but not all sites. Only Opera works on all sites that I have tried. It is very disconcerting for sure as I really prefer the stock browser.
jostarr said:
Thanks for all the info. I have the stock browser, Dolphin and Opera Mobile. I have the user agent configured to Desktop in all 3 browsers. All 3 work on most, but not all sites. Only Opera works on all sites that I have tried. It is very disconcerting for sure as I really prefer the stock browser.
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Well, then it goes back to what I posted about the web sites themselves properly delivering the right site based on the user agent (thanks for reminding me of the name user agent gammaRascal!). The web designer has to write code to account for all the various user agents.
There are some other differences too. Try this website in the stock browser,
dolphin and Opera: http://newyork.yankees.mlb.com/index.jsp?c_id=nyy
With the stock browser, the standings right below the picture on the left, is not complete.
with Dolphin, all looks like as on my PC.
with Opera, the page does not fit the screen.