I don't know if anyone else has tried this, but the google box that you can bring up on the Sense tab (the one for internet) is different than the one when you open the Opera Browser that is right under the address bar. The difference between the two is the one on the Sense tab gives you the results of the search, but anytime you click on any of the links for your results its TEXT ONLY. The one on the Opera Browser has links that takes you to the site, but still lets it stay as a "desktop" looking site. Anyone know why it does that? Is it a glitch? Can it be fixed?
I agree. I would like to know as well.
In the tab: you can change it in registry to the following and it will do every google search in desktop version :
google.com/search?hl=en-US&output=html&q=%s
however, if you are in the browser already, and did a google search, it will come up in mobile search results.
How can we change the one in browser to desktop searchers?
Hmm never noticed this before,might be a good idea to
change it to give proper search results
The search bar that you refer to invokes Google's specilaized mobile view rendering service. Essentially what Google does is to take all the websites out there and convert them to a mobile friendly version before diplaying it on your screen.
That's why it is different from the Desktop View and even the Opera Mobile View because Google is dong the conversion, not the browser.
It's quite handy if you want quick access to text information.
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How can we change the one in browser to desktop searchers?
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custom user agent.
as you are now opera is telling google it is a mobile browser. spoof for example the FireFox desktop use agent and you will see desktop google.
as for the search tab, as mentioned above you can force the results and even use a different search engine if you like.
more details here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=656897
I know that there was a way to force the user-agent to display as desktop in other android phones, i.e. go into browser, type "about:debug" in the address bar, go into setting, then UA then select desktop. I tried this on my new Vibrant cause I was sick of it defaulting to the mobile sites and it caused automatic FC in the browser. Had to clear browser data to get it working again. Anybody have other ideas on how to do this?
Not sure how to do it on the stock browser, but I know that Skyfire browser has a toggle button built in for this.
Yeah I guess that most other browsers do. Stock browser = Fail.
I have dolphin browser and skyfire installed so I can open BBC in full.
Google is Your Friend. I googled it and Here Is the Istructions. I Tried it and It Works Perfect. After These Steps Opera Will Open Full Desktop Web Pages. Opera is One of The Only Browsers That has like NO Typing Lag so This is Very Useful (To me Atleast) Here it Is:
1. Install the Opera Desktop browser on a computer (opera.com)
2. In Address Bar Type opera:about
3. Copy the exact user agent onto a piece of paper (Or Notepad)
4. Install the Opera Mobile browser (from android market)
5. On Tablet Address Bar Type opera:config (In Opera Mobile Browser)
6. Go to User Prefs and Find Custom User Agent
7. Copy the Opera Desktop User Agent you wrote down onto The Custom User Agent Box
8. Push Save and Restart Opera Mobile.
Now All Web Pages open In Full Desktop Mode. Enjoy. Flash Still Doesnt Work but This is Still the Fastest Web Browser for HC Tablets Atm.
Edite : This is just the steps I took. Other User Agents should work fine too i.e Internet explorer or Firefox. ***
To those lazy people, just input some random useragent and it should work fine for 99% sites out there (with the exception of some that ONLY accepts a certain browser (mostly IE only)). This will cause statistic collection to have weird entries of browsers being used depending on the useragent you pick
Ok, I have read literally hundreds of posts concerning desktop vs mobile mode in the browser. I have tried several browsers, and have switched them all into desktop mode via the settings. But, none, including the stock browser and Dolphin seem to work as promised. So, I have several questions:
1. What is it that allows a website to recognize an android phone or tablet and an
ipod touch as a mobile device?
2. Is there any way to permanently change "whatever" so that all websites
recognize my tablet and ipod touch as a desktop?
I'm using opera mobile and all pages works fine on desktop mode
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I'm using opera mobile and all pages works fine on desktop mode
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I tried one version of Opera last week and had no luck. Today, I downloaded Opera Mobile as you suggested and it worked just fine. Thanks for the suggestion.
But, the still should be a permanent fix for all Browsers. And, I would still like to know how a website recognizes a mobile device.
I believe they check the OS, not the browser, then redirect accordingly.
Running Honney Vil and stock browser and not seeing that problem, so probably does check the os, don't really know.
This is all based on what your browser "broadcasts" to the web server. I remember way back in the day, some custom ROMs had an option in the settings menu, even on the native browser, to set your browser type to one of many options, including "Android OS", "BlackBerry", "IE", "FireFox" etc... Most web sites are the ones in control of which page to display to you based on what browser it detects hitting the page. Below is an example of one of my web site's access log
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[IP Masked} - - [24/Aug/2011:14:55:57 -0400] "GET /forums/viewtopic.php?p=28441 HTTP/1.1" 200 11347 "-" "Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; Baiduspider/2.0; +http://www.baidu.com/search/spider.html)"
[IP Masked] - - [24/Aug/2011:14:56:09 -0400] "POST /forums/posting.php?mode=reply&f=11&t=2900 HTTP/1.1" 200 3144 "http://[URL Masked]/forums/posting.php?mode=reply&f=11&t=2900" "Mozilla/5.0 (Linux; U; Android 2.3.3; en-us; DROID X2 Build/4.5.1A-DTN-117-15) AppleWebKit/533.1 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/4.0 Mobile Safari/533.1"
It's from those logs where it says things like "Android 2.3.3" that tells a server which site to load. Unfortunately, most developers have hard coded anything as "Android" to be shown the mobile browser. Other browsers, like Dolphin and Opera, are either broadcasting a different type of browser, or give the option to.
I have the settings in the stock browser set to viewing mode:desktop (under the advanced tab of the browser settings) and have not come accross any pages that get redirected to mobile. I'm running stock 3.1
Right, you send USER_AGENT info when you connect to a site and based on that - typically what the OS is - the site can redirect.
With 3.0.1 you had to type about:debug in the browser to get the debug menu in settings and there you could change the user agent string. In 3.1 we have that in the advanced menu but I still prefer the old way;-). Don't forget to clear the cache after you do that because the browser might have cached the redirect to the mobile site.
Thanks for all the info. I have the stock browser, Dolphin and Opera Mobile. I have the user agent configured to Desktop in all 3 browsers. All 3 work on most, but not all sites. Only Opera works on all sites that I have tried. It is very disconcerting for sure as I really prefer the stock browser.
jostarr said:
Thanks for all the info. I have the stock browser, Dolphin and Opera Mobile. I have the user agent configured to Desktop in all 3 browsers. All 3 work on most, but not all sites. Only Opera works on all sites that I have tried. It is very disconcerting for sure as I really prefer the stock browser.
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Well, then it goes back to what I posted about the web sites themselves properly delivering the right site based on the user agent (thanks for reminding me of the name user agent gammaRascal!). The web designer has to write code to account for all the various user agents.
There are some other differences too. Try this website in the stock browser,
dolphin and Opera: http://newyork.yankees.mlb.com/index.jsp?c_id=nyy
With the stock browser, the standings right below the picture on the left, is not complete.
with Dolphin, all looks like as on my PC.
with Opera, the page does not fit the screen.
Even though you have desktop mode selected, clicking on a link on that same page and same site opens up a new tab in mobile. So, every time you open a new tab, you have to keep requesting desktop site, which is BS. There is no good reason for Chrome or Samsung Internet browser to force mobile sites on us if we don't want to use them.
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Even though you have desktop mode selected, clicking on a link on that same page and same site opens up a new tab in mobile. So, every time you open a new tab, you have to keep requesting desktop site, which is BS. There is no good reason for Chrome or Samsung Internet browser to force mobile sites on us if we don't want to use them.
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You could try "Dolphin Web Browser"
or another browser im sure many others do the same
in the apps settings you can set it to whatever you like android/ios/desktop etc